 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
1/21/2020
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The second part of the conclusion to Nemesis is now here.
Nemesis will complete next Tuesday, the 28th of January.
All the best, delicious friends! edited by h4nchan on 1/21/2020
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 Askebaske Posts: 25
1/21/2020
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Happy I got a bat in time for these requirements to absolutely ruin my character!
I love the wealth of details, the massive requirements, feeling like your character is willing to sacrifice everything trying to do the impossible. I am also happy there are no further bat-like requirements (that I have encountered thus far..) and most options can be cleared in several different ways. Well written, well designed.
I will be giddy the next few days for each new step I take on this path.
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 PSGarak Posts: 834
1/21/2020
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Hannah Flynn wrote:
next Tuesday, the 28th of April. The Treachery of Calendars!
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
1/21/2020
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Wow, I have written about five hundred dates down today and got at least 250 of them wrong. Fixed!
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 Skinnyman Posts: 2133
1/21/2020
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Hannah Flynn wrote:
Wow, I have written about five hundred dates down today and got at least 250 of them wrong. Fixed!  How well did you part with 2019?
-- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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 Nonomori Posts: 25
1/21/2020
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Loving the updates to this Ambition. ^^
[spoiler]I'm also fifteen thousand Echoes poorer. Oh my. [/spoiler]
-- Vahniel
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 Bitty Posts: 234
1/21/2020
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them grinds tho *sobs* may have to ditch my ubergoat sorry asriel
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 Winthropx Posts: 166
1/21/2020
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I’m living how the conclusion is rolling out at the moment. It’s absolutely fantastic!
-- Bishop Winthrop, a kind-hearted soul A Paramount Presence I accept all social actions His Appearance http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?messageid=229809&Page=10#post#post229809
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 The Curious Watcher Posts: 263
1/21/2020
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Nonomori wrote:
Loving the updates to this Ambition. ^^
[spoiler]I'm also fifteen thousand Echoes poorer. Oh my. [/spoiler]
I thought you said that it was 1,500 Echoes (an expensive, but doable amount) at first, but I also saw how a person is considering selling his Ubergoat and I had to look at the wiki and calculate based on the cost of said objects at Carrow's Steel.
And I thought my efforts at still continuously flipping cards for the Bat with Attitude are bad. I wish I could meet Carrow himself so that I can shake his hand and congratulate him on his brilliant marketing strategy.
At this rate, progress in an Ambition will require all 4 scrap treasures together from the Relickers, or worse. Bring it on!
-- The Thirteenth Master of the Bazaar: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Thirteenth%20Master%20of%20the%20Bazaar The Silent Vake Hunter: GONE NORTH The Ravenous Wanderer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Ravenous%20Wanderer The Melancholic End-Bringer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Melancholic%20End-Bringer The Lethal Nightmare: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Lethal%20Nightmare
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 Bitty Posts: 234
1/22/2020
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The Curious Watcher wrote:
Nonomori wrote:
Loving the updates to this Ambition. ^^
[spoiler]I'm also fifteen thousand Echoes poorer. Oh my. [/spoiler]
I thought you said that it was 1,500 Echoes (an expensive, but doable amount) at first, but I also saw how a person is considering selling his Ubergoat and I had to look at the wiki and calculate based on the cost of said objects at Carrow's Steel.
And I thought my efforts at still continuously flipping cards for the Bat with Attitude are bad. I wish I could meet Carrow himself so that I can shake his hand and congratulate him on his brilliant marketing strategy.
At this rate, progress in an Ambition will require all 4 scrap treasures together from the Relickers, or worse. Bring it on!
if anything im just learning to be prepared for the other ambitions :,D currently grinding echoes on my Bag a Legend alt
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 Amalgamate Posts: 435
1/22/2020
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Yeah, going to try to grind and save up for sure. I’m pretty broke right now having just bought a Cider and burning everything else I have on a long-living (hopefully) Noman..:
-- http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/amalgamate
Social invitations of all kinds welcome, especially games of chess and deadly sparring!
Also happy to help with nightmares, send sips of Cider, and plant battle.
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 Winthropx Posts: 166
1/22/2020
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Red honey just got so much darker
-- Bishop Winthrop, a kind-hearted soul A Paramount Presence I accept all social actions His Appearance http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?messageid=229809&Page=10#post#post229809
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 Waterpls Posts: 322
1/22/2020
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10k+ Echo for one step... I personally like it, but it should be painfull for casual players.
-- Long grinds: Heptagoat 100/180; Cider Done; Correspondence 21/21; Paramount 4/4.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
1/22/2020
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Waterpls wrote:
10k+ Echo for one step... I personally like it, but it should be painfull for casual players.
I'm not sure what you call a casual player, but it was painful for me! I was saving up for the Cider, and 15K is quite a setback. Though it is probably worse for players who weren't saving up for Cider; I feel for the player who is going to have to lose his goats to advance.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 rush99999 Posts: 17
1/23/2020
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Oh, part 2 is out? Cool. As much as I'd love to give it a go, I'm still on part 1 because someone decided it would be a good idea to make having a bat that's near impossible to obtain mandatory for continuing the story. I'm having lots of fun with that. No joke.
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 The Curious Watcher Posts: 263
1/24/2020
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I've been spoiling myself by reading the echoes on other peoples' journals, and I had a weird thought regarding the mirror that was fixed.
[spoiler] The God-Eaters often appear behind black mirrors, and the mirror you're using as a backdoor is specifically stated to be a 'gift' from them. Based on this, I guess that the God-Eaters will be involved with Nemesis's conclusion, one way or another. [/spoiler]
-- The Thirteenth Master of the Bazaar: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Thirteenth%20Master%20of%20the%20Bazaar The Silent Vake Hunter: GONE NORTH The Ravenous Wanderer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Ravenous%20Wanderer The Melancholic End-Bringer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Melancholic%20End-Bringer The Lethal Nightmare: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Lethal%20Nightmare
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 silurica Posts: 210
1/24/2020
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It took some time, but I finally finished this part. I love it more than the previous part, now we are making real progress and I'm more excited than ever to reach the conclusion. The new lore bits were delicious too.
On the mechanical side, it's definitely grindier than the previous part, and where the difficulty spike is most felt so far. Before the finale update, the most an ambition would ask is a number of items that can be reasonably obtained within a couple of days if you grind diligently and know what you're doing. I can't say the same about the echo cost of buying those knives, even if we use a top tier echo grind like Arbor or flash reset. I barely made it on my one-year-old account that I play fairly frequently, it's going to be harsh for those that play more casually than I do. The only saving grace of this requirement is it doesn't rely on rare success RNG.
There's also a part where I needed to spend bats and spiders to improve my chance at succeeding a check and... I don't want to think how many bats and spiders I spent for it. Probably not as much as what I spent on the knives, but still. Tip: if you're sufficiently advanced in Dilmun Club storyline, get all four tiger ministers from the Court of Wakeful Eye to skip most of the grind. The tigers are probably going to be more useful in the long run too.
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Meika Osborne, the Reckless Researcher
Leonard West, the Scarlet Informant
Chizuru Nishiooji, the Rueful Ex-Diplomat
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
1/24/2020
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The Curious Watcher wrote:
I've been spoiling myself by reading the echoes on other peoples' journals, and I had a weird thought regarding the mirror that was fixed.
[spoiler] The God-Eaters often appear behind black mirrors, and the mirror you're using as a backdoor is specifically stated to be a 'gift' from them. Based on this, I guess that the God-Eaters will be involved with Nemesis's conclusion, one way or another. [/spoiler]
Dear lord, that's something that had not occurred to me. Perhaps a certain ravenous One will be involved also? edited by cathyr19355 on 1/24/2020
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Greg M Posts: 197
1/24/2020
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I only had 800 echoes saved up, but I liquidated 43 Searing Enigmas I was saving for an impossible theorem, 10 Night Whispers I'd been saving to buy pails of snow next year, and some other things, and I'm now up to 5,300 echoes. I refuse to sell my goat, or my hard-won One-Time Location, Fluke Core, or Breath of the Void, so I'm gonna have to figure out how to get the other 5,000 -- or 10,000 if I go that route!
But it's delightful to be challenged once again by Fallen London.
-- Profile: GregM. http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/GregM
Available for any non-harmful social interactions.
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 Monara Posts: 162
1/25/2020
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Too bad I don't have a bat on my Nemesis character and I got tired of deleting cards all day for zero measurable progress towards getting one. I may have to read this in someone else's journal, such a shame after the long wait.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Miranah
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