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Hymenaeus
Hymenaeus
Posts: 17

11/28/2019
Who do you side with? Both parties are not necessarily at odds against one another directly, but there is a tenuous relationship at best. Players of Skies probably know the outcome of this relationship, but as London residents, do you welcome the new lords of the city, or are you a loyalist to the core?

I, myself, am devoted to my Empress. Lord Hymenaeus defies these beasts, though perhaps not openly.

As an aside, I am so very curious about this bridging moment in the London/SS lore.
edited by Hymenaeus on 11/29/2019

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Diptych
Diptych
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Posts: 3493

11/29/2019
My answer to this question would be "No".
edited by Diptych on 12/1/2019

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Catherine Raymond
Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518

11/30/2019
I agree with lxc. The Empress chose to betray her people and her sacred oath to her people for love. What the Masters have done to London resulted partly from ignorance of love and human nature, and partly due to how they have been trapped by the gods. I also see greater potential in playing the Masters against each other for the good of London and her inhabitants than in moving the Empress to do anything useful.

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phryne
phryne
Posts: 1351

11/30/2019
Side with Hell. Always side with Hell.

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Greg M
Greg M
Posts: 197

1/27/2020
I don't side with all the Masters, but Mr. Iron has expressed great reluctance to go along with the other Masters' plans and seems very interested in preserving Fallen London. One of the Seasonal conclusions clearly established this. I also suspect Mr. Pages would balk at seeing this city go (yeah he did Oscar Wilde dirty, but I paid Fate to help Wilde escape, so there you go).

So I am #TeamIron and #TeamPages.

I am, as far as I know, the only person on this team.

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Ixc
Ixc
Posts: 365

11/29/2019
I would argue the Masters are evil mainly because of their inhuman values; the Empress is fully able to understand human morality, but chooses to be cruel anyway. And the Masters are actually doing something about the Liberation, as compared to her Majesty. Plus, the Masters are technically easier to overthrow now than Victoria as Her Eternal Majesty.

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Honeyaddict
Honeyaddict
Posts: 501

11/30/2019
I prefer to side with neither, whilst staying in both of their good graces if possible.
I do see the Empress as the lesser threat but the greater evil as she sold London for her own gains to the Masters, who whilst more dangerous can only do what they are due to the actions of the Empress.

None the less, the party I side with would be my own, or rather the party that protects the commonfolk from the extremities of the political discordant landscape that is Fallen London with the Masters, Devils, Church, the Revolutionaries, Spies and Empress.

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Has some ideas the Masters won't approve of like some items and establishing a Colony in Parabola.

I will accept most social interactions (not duping). I do enjoy role playing as well.
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Jaina
Jaina
Posts: 239

11/30/2019
They're both tyrants. Sic temper tyrannis.

I find Victoria particularly detestable due to the fact that we *know* she was terrible in the real world as well and that she is a human. The Masters have the excuse of being obscenely overpowered compared to any human they've ever met, save perhaps one or two, and have a very different sense of 'who matters'.

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Plynkes
Plynkes
Posts: 631

11/29/2019
Nope and nope. The one is the lackey of the others. Burn 'em all.

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"Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1783

11/29/2019
Well...
My first instict is to say no to both, but if I had to choose between them I would go with the human evil. Because you know. She is human.
It doesn't help that their common foil, the Revolutionaries, have even crazier schemes.
In the end, if you are opposed to their madness, all you can do is be helpful with the downtrodden and take their side any way you can.

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Tystefy
Tystefy
Posts: 450

3/30/2020
They both suck.

However... it’s beneficial to be connected with the Masters. And I hear they have soft, velvety ears.

On the other limb, you cannot be connected with the Empress at all. AKA, she is useless from a gameplay perspective and aggravating story-wise.

At least the Masters... y’know... talk and interact with people. The Empress is just a shut-in.

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ChangelingChilde
ChangelingChilde
Posts: 231

1/18/2020
D-mn them all. I side with Eaten and the Liberation.

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OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
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JaneAnkhVeos
JaneAnkhVeos
Posts: 132

1/19/2020
Diptych wrote:
My answer to this question would be "No".

This.


AbsolxGuardian wrote:
please stop planting bombs and killing innocents.

When the Masters decide it’s time for the next city,
[spoiler]they will kill ALL the innocents. Permanently.

So sending those who support these monsters for a chess game or two with the Boatman is but a sobering reminder.[/spoiler]

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the old man
the old man
Posts: 381

1/19/2020
JaneAnkhVeos wrote:



AbsolxGuardian wrote:
please stop planting bombs and killing innocents.

When the Masters decide it’s time for the next city,
[spoiler]they will kill ALL the innocents. Permanently.

So sending those who support these monsters for a chess game or two with the Boatman is but a sobering reminder.[/spoiler]



some people are just trying to live in this city.

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JaneAnkhVeos
JaneAnkhVeos
Posts: 132

1/19/2020
the old man wrote:
some people are just trying to live in this city.

Staying out of conflicts is a perfectly understandable choice, but they deserve to know that one day they will have no choice at all - because these lives may end at any time by whim of the Bazaar and its Masters.

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|| the Nocturnal Nostalgist, pawnbroker of dreams and memories ||
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