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Hannah Flynn
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9/17/2019
We retired this thread temporarily pending consideration of what to do with it, as we don't feel it's fair or reasonable under the circumstances to ask Diptych to moderate it, and we can't provide full moderation cover ourselves. However, we recognise the community's need to talk about the situation, and we don't want to push that discussion elsewhere.


We've decided to reinstate the thread, locking it when we can't adequately cover moderation duties: over the weekends, and outside of 0900 - 1800 BST.

Please keep all discussion of the matter to this thread, and please, remember that this matter is of considerable importance, impact and sensitivity to several of our staff.


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Jolanda Swan
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9/17/2019
Thank you, Failbetter, for doing that. It must be hard.

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Jolanda Swan
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9/17/2019
By the way, it's ridiculous to ask people not to come forward with accusations, to keep silent unless there is some tangible proof. I felt stunned by AK's post, so I am not saying this lightly: there is no easy solution to this. Telling men and women who have been abused/harassed or worse that they need to have -what, photohraphic evidence? At least three witnesses? A note that says "I did the deed? is essentially asking us to keep silent, when speaking out is often the only recourse we have. I understand worrying about the possibility of innocents being wrongly accused, but by focusing only on these ocassions, we are ignoring the innumerable cases where people are abused and have no way to get a tiny bit of justice, or warn others.

So no, call-out culture is not a solution. It is simply the only solution that might, maybe, perhaps has a chance to work. And this is awful, and it tears us apart, making the discussion a shouting match. We know. But neither "believe everything" nor "believe nobody unless they have video and there is three of them" is a solution.


So I am going to ask this: for those who oppose call-outs, do you care equally for the innocents who get besmirched and the millions who get abused and never get any justice? And if yes, what is a better idea? This is what we need to ask.
edited by Jolanda Swan on 9/17/2019

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Waterpls
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9/17/2019
Justice is too broad term. Better to talk about crime prevention. Thare are two known ways.
1. Make punishment harsher. It works, but not very effective, that's why in modern societies we no longer have public tortures, executions, humiliations, etc.
2. Make punishment more certain. If its highly likely that you will be punished for you crime, then you will think twice before committing to it. Its effective. But not ideal, most criminals are not smart, educated or even have alternatives.

I do not see how call-outs can help "the millions who get abused and never get any justice". Because its weak in both ways. Hard punishment is reserved for courts (and its great). And public shaming is very unreliable. Today twitter crowd cares about women abuse at work, tomorrow it might be family violence, ecology, pedophilia, animal rights or Mr. Eaten knows what. And even if your case accidentally the same as the fashion of the season you have to be lucky or known in broad circles (or your abuser).

I believe that only institutional changes can provide good long-term solutions. So yeah, court practices and ethical committees for large enough companies / organizations.
edited by Waterpls on 9/17/2019

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Gul al-Ahlaam
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9/17/2019
Turning the topic from justice to art, I think it's fascinating to compare the writing on Sunless Sea's officer romances, which as far as I can tell from the timeline of events were written by Alexis at Peak Horny, and Cultist Simulator's cultist romances, which were, to my knowledge, in fact written largely by Lottie Bevan.

The games use romance differently, both in terms of the tone they set and in terms of the thematic and narrative utility, but both are in fundamentally the same position- the player character entering into a casual romantic and sexual relationship with one of their underlings, whether that's in a professional or social framework.

But the obvious distinction would be that in Sunless Sea, the indication of compatibility is nature (you're the kind of person that interests them or not), the engagement is entirely sexual without any significant emotional entanglement or change in professional relationship. There's no real end game for it either- it ends when someone gets tired and breaks it off.

Meanwhile, in Cultist Simulator, the indication of compatibility is shared desire and goals, the engagement is sexual but also emotional, and requires that you understand what your partner desires as well as what you desire, and your emotional entanglement leads to significant narrative drama, including the opportunity to abandon your ultimate goals on your partner's behalf and live ever after with them, or burn them on the pyre of your ambition, and there's a story to choosing to be with them, a narrative end game that has a satisfying weight to it.

This doesn't necessarily say anything about the emotional state of the writers or their worldview at the time of the writing- as there's plenty of time for reflection and change between those two moments, and of course the tone and themes of the games are quite different, but it's interesting, I think.

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Desirée
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27 days ago
Failbetter CEO about the situation; his personal stance, not FB-s: https://medium.com/@wastebooks/alexis-kennedy-71044efc0ecf
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menaulon
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27 days ago
A very important read. The statement has a good summation of the situation and adds specific examples of Alexis's behavior, both elaborating on what has been revealed and a few new details. Provides specific evidence for people who are saying there wasn't any before. "Why talk about this?" section is especially good at explaining what is the goal of making information public and holding Alexis accountable for his actions, so it's a good counterpoint to Lottie's article.

Adam makes it very clear that Alexis lied in his PCGamesN article and still lying now about stepping down as Lottie's direct manager and about informing the whole firm (Failbetter had already stated most of this to RPShotgun here: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/09/04/alexis-kennedy-denies-allegations-of-abusive-or-coercive-behaviour/).

Alexis wrote:
I've booked in a meeting for us this afternoon, for an hour. Call it an enhanced 1-on-1.
We need to have a candid conversation about a cluster of related issues, including but very much not limited to the issue you raised with Paul before you went on holiday.

This was how Alexis responded the concerns about his relationship with Lottie (full quote in the article). To me, this is very much a "not a threat, but …" statement and a example of pressure and intimidation towards a subordinate. This fits the pattern of behavior described in the accusations and does not at all fit Alexis's claims that he is a harmless bumbler in over his head and a victim of unfounded rumors. This increases my doubt that Lottie was completely unaware of any allegations towards Alexis, since she would know that he was lying about stepping down as her manager immediately.

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phryne
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27 days ago
Desirée wrote:
Failbetter CEO about the situation; his personal stance, not FB-s: https://medium.com/@wastebooks/alexis-kennedy-71044efc0ecf

Thanks for sharing. This is a shocking read. Contrasting it with AK's response blog post from last week, two things are becoming more and more obvious: that AK really is a notorious liar and that he really goes around habitually threatening people (and, as a third point, he seems to be really good at both).

I mean, just look at this:

  • I know several people who experience fear and anxiety when they attend industry events because of the possibility they’ll encounter him.
  • I know multiple people who ask friends or colleagues to go to their conference talks to support them in the event he attends.
  • Multiple people who’d had little direct contact with him in years have broken out in tears while telling me about his role in their lives.

I didn't really think AK could be painted in a worse light than in the original accusations, but this is a different league. I hoped that he had "only" occasionally misbehaved and was too stubborn to believe it (not an excuse, just so we understand each other) but this is the very definition of the kind of creep you never want to meet.

Also, remember how he (and Lottie) harped on about how he nearly killed himself after everything that happened? Well, this seems like another old trick of his:

We had the meeting. I told him my concerns. He told me it was none of my business, and that I’d damaged his mental health (he used the words ‘nervous breakdown’).

"Don't criticize me, it's bad for my mental health. Do it again and hey, I might kill myself! Do you want that?"


Seriously, AK: go **** yourself.
edited by phryne on 9/24/2019

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Jolanda Swan
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25 days ago
Well that was shocking, but needed.

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Emain Ablach
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25 days ago
Shocking indeed, but very informative, thank you.

Phryne, you might want to edit again your last sentence. You know it's not the place for that, nor how we behave on this forum. :/

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Catherine Raymond
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25 days ago
Alexis's self-serving statements to one side, he seems to have real psychological problems with women and relationships. I think he needs professional psychological help, and he's not going to get any, at the rate he's going.

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Tystefy
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17 days ago
I made an insensitive post here. Removed.

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