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Diptych
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8/12/2019
Hey, folks! Here's this week's quick questions thread!

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Doctor_Static
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8/12/2019
Role at Play behooves me ask fellow citizens what Lore is tardy in providing - Does anyone know of common fact or esoteric spoiler lore - DO ClayMen Breathe? - Can they survive immersal - Can they Drown - or even be dissolved, if shipwrecked, say, in a river "Shallows", perhap? . . . ((Not into Fated content / spoilers, btw)) :: Simply ethicly conflicted vis-a-vis joining in the Strike & Battle of Wolfstack Docks - What with a Clay "sidekick" & advocacy of "Free Clays to Union" - AND a fondness for my Docks associations - BUT as a Mission in the Skirmishes for Rights vs Rule - a ship must be sunk - with Clays aboard - possibly chained ... I am in moral and morale suspence, on furthering the drama, until resolving how not to be choosing between evils, lesser or greater, as may be. ((On a subtler note, am Connected: Masters & Plotting Against The Masters))

Any good word, on the issue, much appreciated!


- That-is :
: As to - whether Clays can survive a swim, or trudge from drownie depths, up to shore. DO Tell...?

(Woo - first out the gate!)


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Optimatum
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8/12/2019
Clay Men can dissolve to some degree, though it's unclear whether they would remain semi-intact and mobile.

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MrCandles
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8/12/2019
What is the most efficient Heist? Have it more EPA than Tomb of Silken Tread?

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    xKiv
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    8/12/2019
    MrCandles wrote:
    What is the most efficient Heist? Have it more EPA than Tomb of Silken Tread?

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  • I am not sure if the normal hard heist, envoy, or duchess is the best heist, but I am fairly confident they are not nearly as good as silken thread.

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    Kaijyuu
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    8/13/2019
    Silken Thread blows everything else out of the water by a significant margin. Though if you're looking at things to raise your shadowy efficiently, I believe War of Assassins using the Dramatic Tension boosting storylets in Wilmont's End is still the best.

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    elderfleur
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    8/15/2019
    Ignoring Cards which award a single Implication, is there a more efficient source of Extraordinary Implications compared against Spying on London's Embassy combined with Investigating the Near-Arbori? It approaches 0.75 Implications per action (assuming one has a fair number to start with) which seems... fine?

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    Vega
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    8/16/2019
    Not a question, but something I noticed...
    I'm currently at zee after a couple months of shore-leave in London, and I've noticed that in the destinations list on "Across the Southern Archipelago", the locked options of The East and the Pillars have disappeared. Don't know when this happened, nor what this implied, but they're no longer visible as destinations that have teased Zee-Captains for many a year, but have never been accessible.

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    Skinnyman
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    8/16/2019
    elderfleur wrote:
    Ignoring Cards which award a single Implication, is there a more efficient source of Extraordinary Implications compared against Spying on London's Embassy combined with Investigating the Near-Arbori? It approaches 0.75 Implications per action (assuming one has a fair number to start with) which seems... fine?
    Doing both yields one EI per Linger so just Spy on the Embassy; you'll get 5 EI for 6 AP without the need to move at all.

    When you reenter Arbor, you're placed in the exact place where you left because The Rose-Red Streets quality doesn't change.

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    Jolanda Swan
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    8/16/2019
    I just noticed that the Observatory lodgings option awards an Aeolian Scream, so... why are we complaining about early lodgings 'cluttering' our deck? They all have a 2.5 EPA action, or scraps, or Making Waves possibilities. Am I missing something?

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    PSGarak
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    8/16/2019
    That's a rare success, not a standard success.

    I mean, I think the focus on a slim opportunity deck is overblown. And I want scrap items, which is best achieved by having more cards even if they're low-payout. But yeah, that one happens to be a rare success.

    Several of the Making Waves options were indirectly buffed in the past year by new content making certain items more obtainable. It might be worth revising the usefulness of those lodgings in the collective consciousness.

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    Dudebro Pyro
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    8/16/2019
    2.5EPA? Get with the times, these days if a card is below 3EPA it's not worth keeping in the deck!
    More seriously, some cards really are useless. The Gambling Den or Bookshop lodgings, for example. I don't consider the extremely variable and quite expensive MW options very useful - expecially since the higher end lodgings are also Frequent, if you really need to gamble for MW for whatever reason.
    Similarly for the 1 scrap options: unless you're desperate for every scrap, limiting yourself to the Frequent 3+ scrap lodgings is barely going to hurt time efficiency, and will greatly improve action efficiency. In fact, if on average you get two 3 scrap cards every three full decks (or two Bazaar ones every four decks), it's actually not worth taking the 1 scrap option in favour of doing the Flash Lay deck reset. Maybe it doesn't quite work out this way, but in my experience it's not far off.

    On the other hand the cards that do have a 2.5 EPA option (while PSGarak is right, The High Shack is one that gives 2.75 if you've got the quality maxed out) probably just got lumped in with the useless ones in the narrative, and nobody really bothered to double-check. Most people don't buy every lodging, either, so I for one spent a couple of years stuck with the Bookshop and Gambling Den both in my deck, and didn't even consider until now that some of the other lodgings in the same tier were infinitely more useful.
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    Optimatum
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    8/16/2019
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    (while PSGarak is right, The High Shack is one that gives 2.75 if you've got the quality maxed out)



    3 echoes, actually wink

    Anyways, I think planning ahead for long-term deck efficiency really depends on how long you intend to play Fallen London. Having access to a bunch of scrap options is great if you want to get some rare items then stop playing. But anyone who intends to keep playing past that will have to deal with many of their cards becoming instantly useless. Personally, I'm regretting buying even the Royal Beth and Brass Embassy lodgings now.

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    MrCandles
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    8/17/2019
    Can I sell stained soul on Hallowmas and after this buy Rubbery Mixture?
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    Jason5237
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    8/17/2019
    Vega wrote:
    Not a question, but something I noticed...
    I'm currently at zee after a couple months of shore-leave in London, and I've noticed that in the destinations list on "Across the Southern Archipelago", the locked options of The East and the Pillars have disappeared. Don't know when this happened, nor what this implied, but they're no longer visible as destinations that have teased Zee-Captains for many a year, but have never been accessible.


    I don’t know if this is good or bad. Could mean a few things. Hopefully it means they are relaunching versions soon that we may actually visit!

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