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Anne Auclair
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7/17/2019


"What we need is someone sensible in charge. Firm character. Won't hold with any funny business." She smiles broadly. "What it needs is me."

For discussion of all things specific to Mrs. Plenty.

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PSGarak
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7/17/2019
Jolanda Swan wrote:
HAL and his wife? I had no idea about that, I think. This is why I love the elections.

The details of this are from his Confession, from the Hallowmas before last.

Spoilers, of course: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/12876887

Related: I am so deeply thankful that the redesign gave journals a little calendar that lets you search by date.

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Diptych
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7/17/2019
So far, I have no idea what Mrs P is up to, aside from that her staff expect her business to benefit from her political ambitions. Which is not entirely encouraging.

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Calliope
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7/17/2019
I wonder, if Mrs Plenty wins, will this actually upgrade the Carnival location in some way?

On another note, her stated changes in the "but what are you plans for London?" question on her card include


1. Getting 'honest constables' appointed by her to walk the streets

2. A public holiday for Mutton Island

3. Bribing 'every ambassador I could think of' to just leave London alone for a bit.

Now, this could be anything from totally innocuous to straight up goshdarn sinister. I mean, I really don't get good vibes from her attempting to isolate london entirely from outside view (more than it already is anyway), and if I may let my Sunless Seas knowledge bleed over to FL, I don't exactly assosciate 'public holiday' and 'mutton island' very well either. And the whole adding her own cops to the fray hardly disarms the suspiciousness either...
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Siankan
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7/17/2019
Calliope wrote:
if I may let my Sunless Seas knowledge bleed over to FL, I don't exactly assosciate 'public holiday' and 'mutton island' very well either.

Mrs. Plenty has connections to Mutton Island. (What kind? You can find out yourself next visit.) But indeed, a great deal rests on what one means by "public holiday." (Mutton Island already has the Fruits of the Zee Festival, as we know.)

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Anne Auclair
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7/18/2019
The Jovial Contrarian 1896 wrote:
"The previous two Mayors have been so ineffectual, the worst thing that could happen to the Constables is direct governance by the Mayor's Office. Which is precisely why I advocate the policy. Dismantle the tools," he says softly, looking out to the spires of the Bazaar, "And we are a step closer."


Mrs Plenty 1897 wrote:
"I don't think it'll be easy. Everyone else gets some peace, Muggins here does the work. Honest constables to keep the peace, selected by me, a public 'oliday on Mutton Island, bribes to every ambassador you care to think of to b____r off for a bit. What I means," she says, eyes glinting, "Is to keep the wolves from our door for another year."


These quotes go rather well together :P

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Siankan
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7/20/2019
Based on recent history, I would say that peace is the largest, most unobtainable goal in election history--and that includes not only Mme Shoshana's goals, but Southwark's, too. Conflict is easy; avoiding it requires a master.

It is, therefore, both highly ambitious and a vast improvement on the current state of London--if she pulls it off.

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Azothi
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7/17/2019
Jolanda Swan wrote:
True. I wonder, with Seeking being so important in the lore, what are the possibilities that it plays absolutely no role in her campaign?
We can see from her card that her Fate-locked conversation for next week takes place on Mutton Island. Maybe we'll see Seeking content there. It's worth noting, though, that both Shoshana and Virginia obliquely reference Plenty's past, though only based on the information they'd have access to. [spoiler]Virginia comments on Plenty's soul, along with an unhealthy dose of rude ageism, given that Virginia's the oldest candidate in the race. As for Shoshana, she likely doesn't know that Plenty isn't actively Seeking, as that information is only privy to those who have been through the nightmare Carnival (or that in a possible future, Plenty makes it to the Wilderness), and so predicts based on her Mutton Island roots and history with HAL and his wife. [/spoiler]

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Jolanda Swan
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7/17/2019
True. I wonder, with Seeking being so important in the lore, what are the possibilities that it plays absolutely no role in her campaign?

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Siankan
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7/17/2019
Diptych wrote:
So far, I have no idea what Mrs P is up to, aside from that her staff expect her business to benefit from her political ambitions. Which is not entirely encouraging.

Let's speculate, shall we?

[spoiler]1. The whole thing is an advertising stunt to draw more attention to the carnival. Could explain the carnies' expectations, which don't seem to be dependent on Mrs. Plenty's success (or they think it's a foregone conclusion).
2. Mrs. Plenty & Co. simply expect her mayoralty to draw in lots of attention and revenue.
3. The expansion of the carnival is part of the campaign, not its results.
4. The carnies expect to benefit from good old fashioned graft and abuse of mayoral privileges.
5. Mrs. Plenty is in cahoots with any number of London's factions, up to and including the Masters. She's always had connections to the back side of the podium, as it were, and with the deeper mysteries of London. I'm not just referring to Seeking, either; remember the Hall of Mirrors.[/spoiler]
#1 and #4 are reasons to oppose her campaign. #2 and #3 are entirely benign. #5 is by far the most interesting possibility, and can sway us for or against depending on the players involved.

Of course, I also must point out that this is all based on backstage carny speculation. There's no guarantee the information is accurate.

I'd be happier if I knew what is on Mrs. Plenty's card, but so far that's not happened.

Jolanda Swan wrote:
I wonder, with Seeking being so important in the lore, what are the possibilities that it plays absolutely no role in her campaign?

Quite good, I think. Unlike a certain Parliamentarian, Mrs. Plenty is not a one-dimensional character. There are many aspects to her and her story, and Seeking is the least relevant of them to the Mayor's office. That said, I wouldn't put it past Failbetter to include it--or Virginia to dredge it up in week two in an attempt to discredit her.
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Teaspoon
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7/20/2019
asinineFlatfoot wrote:
Teaspoon wrote:
...myself I think more peace and less progress-for-the-sake-of-progress is *precisely* what London needs. Has this town even breathed since the Fall?
It's all too easy for me to envision Mrs. Plenty doing absolutely nothing in her entire mayoral term, other then use her power to grab more profit for her carnival. That's what worries me about promises of "peace": it seems so close to a promise of idleness.


Compared to "hi I'm a fearmonger" and "hi I want your soul" I am not all that sure that idleness is the worst fate that could befall us!

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Jolanda Swan
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7/27/2019
On the Surface, this is the most boring election campaign we ever had.
Underneath... it's probably the most sinister.

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Calliope
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7/27/2019
After all, on the surface, a well just looks like a well.

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Calliope
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7/26/2019
So I used Mrs Plenty's ten rep option. Apparently one of her plans is not to just give Mutton Island a public holiday, but to take a piece of mutton island back with her - one that would apparently give people 'a real taste' of the place. While this is framed as being used for an attraction in her Carnival, I do wonder what she could possibly bring back from Mutton Island that conveys how, ah, authentic Mutton Island is. And one wonders if this objective is entirely incidental to her attempts to hire her own cops on the streets and drive the ambassadors away, or if in fact the two are linked to a greater goal...

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Calliope
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7/28/2019
""Oo?" Mrs Plenty asks, when you catch her daubing a thick layer of paint on a moustache she's added to a poster of Madame Shoshana from up a rickety ladder. "Oh. Her.""
^^can we take a moment to appreciate how adorably childish this is, from Miriam of all people?
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Teaspoon
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7/20/2019
asinineFlatfoot wrote:
Mrs. Plenty could have had my vote. She could have. She's the candidate with the most experience managing a larger organization. Shoshana is just a fortune teller; Virginia is an academic/archeologist. Plenty has an entire carnival, run and maintained by her watchful eye.

She could have had my vote, if not for her campaign's tagline: "a moment of peace". Peace? Is that all you offer us? Peace? Where is the ambition? Where is the promise of improvement? If you want a moment of peace, sit by the fireplace with a cup of cocoa and a good book. Any mayor of a town like London needs to work towards more then "peace."



...myself I think more peace and less progress-for-the-sake-of-progress is *precisely* what London needs. Has this town even breathed since the Fall?

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Azothi
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7/17/2019
PSGarak wrote:
Related: I am so deeply thankful that the redesign gave journals a little calendar that lets you search by date.
I agree wholeheartedly. This is easily one of the best things that has come out of the redesign. It makes referencing information, especially from past festivals and Exceptional Stories, a breeze.

(On the HAL point, it's also referenced on Plenty's opportunity card if you choose to discommode her in what is somehow only the second-rudest thing a PC does to a candidate this election.)

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ChangelingChilde
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7/17/2019
Is it really the decent thing to cause someone to betray their betrayer first? That seems to be the implication there, at least.

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Catherine Raymond
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7/19/2019
Calliope wrote:
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As for Mrs. Plenty, whatever else she is or might do, she has not hidden her agenda, so far as we know. That makes her proposed selection of Constables less worrisome than it otherwise might be.

I dunno, that public holiday on Mutton Island may not be nearly as innocuous as it seems...
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Agreed that the Mutton Island Festival has sinister overtones. But Mrs. Plenty *left* there, quite deliberately, so I wouldn't blame her for the activities on the island at this point And just about everything in Fallen London has sinister overtones, anyway.

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Calliope
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7/19/2019
I mean yeah I normally wouldn't blame her for what the island does, unless she gives them something (like, say, a public holiday) that could enable their activities further. And her being from there makes it pretty hard for me to believe an ignorance defense on her part.

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Anne Auclair
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7/19/2019
Calliope wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
As for Mrs. Plenty, whatever else she is or might do, she has not hidden her agenda, so far as we know. That makes her proposed selection of Constables less worrisome than it otherwise might be.

I dunno, that public holiday on Mutton Island may not be nearly as innocuous as it seems...

The items in the curio shop will be hideously overpriced.

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Jolanda Swan
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7/17/2019
HAL and his wife? I had no idea about that, I think. This is why I love the elections.

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phryne
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7/27/2019
While I don't support her, I do think a Mayor Plenty would make this year's Fruits of the Zee Festival very interesting indeed! (and of all FL Festivals, it's the one most in need of a revamp)

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phryne
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7/28/2019
Doctor_Static wrote:
-:- "" His Amused Lordship is managing Mrs Plenty's campaign. "" -:-

. . . Does this inspire any speculation, perhaps among those better acquainted than i ?

They have history, going back a long way, which was revealed at Hallowmas... 2017, I think?

Anyway, here's an echo of it.

It's probably the most revealing storylet concerning how far Mrs Plenty went as a Seeker, and what she's done... I guess HAL can't bring himself to believe the worst, and keeps lingering around Mrs Plenty in hope for information, or at least closure.

Quite a sad story, really.

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Anne Auclair
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7/28/2019
Amélie Vaincœur wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
I'm curious what the little vacation to Mutton Island entails...

For the curious...

It's a bit enigmatic really, especially the phrase "Too late for most. But maybe one or two will remember a better time."

Enigmatic is putting it lightly. The whole scene is cryptic as hell. Like, why is she there? Why is she wearing a mask? What's with all the little fortune cookie proverbs?

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Siankan
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7/20/2019
asinineFlatfoot wrote:
That's what worries me about promises of "peace": it seems so close to a promise of idleness.

Have you asked her how she intends to achieve her goal? It involves a great deal of work.

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Calliope
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7/21/2019
Siankan wrote:
asinineFlatfoot wrote:
That's what worries me about promises of "peace": it seems so close to a promise of idleness.

Have you asked her how she intends to achieve her goal? It involves a great deal of work.

Yeah, a frankly suspicious amount of effort at that. And she even jokes in that same question storylet that everyone *else* will get some peace. but not her. Too busy doing all the things required to maintain said peace!
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Jolanda Swan
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7/21/2019
Though my vote will go elsewhere, I second that what Plenty is aiming at is a titanic endeavor. And if your city is at peace, then you yourself can strive for your personal goals.

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