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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 208

3/23/2019
The Library of Nothing
Home Comfort
The Impossible are here. All of it is highly scandalous or nightmarish. Bring no candles, please.
Watchful +100
Shadowy +35
Dreaded +7

How to obtain:
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Compile them.(inventory use of Impossible Theorems)
-Requires 777 Impossible Theorems.
-Requires 1554 Searing Enigmas.
-Requires London's Nerves
-Requires 300 Watchful
You have collected all of them. You have fed the turbine many times. Now, you must archive them.
CHALLENGE: Watchful 600
Success
You did it!
"The Theorems have found their proper place. One theorem has a Name on it. 50 others make up a complete map of Parabola. You have a library, now."
You no longer have any of this: Impossible Theorem
You no longer have any of this: Searing Enigma
You now have 1* The Library of Nothing
Failure
"Oh. Oh no. Dear God. Oh God No. Nrub lliw I dna THRON og lliw I yademos..."
You no longer have any of this: Searing Enigma
You've lost 1 Impossible Theorem.
Nightmares is increasing...(+15 CP)
Wounds is increasing...(+15 CP)
Scandal is increasing...(+15 CP)
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Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick- Monochromatic Myrmidon, Newspaper Editor, Legendary Charisma.

Mr Netae- SEEKING MR EATEN'S NAME

Aaron Wimbleton- Private Detective. Some Medical Experience.
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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 2133

3/24/2019
I think people don't agree because it lacks basic math.
Or you wanted to post this in Mr Pages’ Fabularities?

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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 208

3/24/2019
Crud! Posted at Bazaar instead.
Whatever. There would be gameplay effects as well, just not real ones. However, I should probably post this in Fabularities, with a link to this thread.

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Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick- Monochromatic Myrmidon, Newspaper Editor, Legendary Charisma.

Mr Netae- SEEKING MR EATEN'S NAME

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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 2133

3/24/2019
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
There would be gameplay effects as well, just not real ones.
Effects which "cost" almost 40k SE which is close to 2.5 mil E. smile Using the Court means you need about 1.1 mil AP; somewhere around 21 years.

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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Kharsirr Lynx
Kharsirr Lynx
Posts: 318

3/24/2019
Yes. Cutting the numbers tenfold, that would be ultimate existing gring level smile as it is, it's sort of impossible.

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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 208

3/24/2019
Skinnyman wrote:
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
There would be gameplay effects as well, just not real ones.
Effects which &quotcost&quot almost 40k SE which is close to 2.5 mil E. smile Using the Court means you need about 1.1 mil AP; somewhere around 21 years.


Which means that if the Ravens are correct, this would be literally impossible to attain, as they say Paris may fall in 11 years.
Happy grinding!

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Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick- Monochromatic Myrmidon, Newspaper Editor, Legendary Charisma.

Mr Netae- SEEKING MR EATEN'S NAME

Aaron Wimbleton- Private Detective. Some Medical Experience.
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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 208

3/24/2019
I almost called it the impossible library due to the influx of theorems.

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Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick- Monochromatic Myrmidon, Newspaper Editor, Legendary Charisma.

Mr Netae- SEEKING MR EATEN'S NAME

Aaron Wimbleton- Private Detective. Some Medical Experience.
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Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 586

3/24/2019
For more mathematical context, the cost of failure is fairly absurd. For a broad Watchful challenge of 600, the maximum current Watchful of 327 would only give a 32% chance of success. The sum total of Searing Enigmas lost, assuming one has precisely the amount needed for this challenge, is nearly 100,000 Echoes, which is nearly a year's worth of the Court of the Wakeful Eye. For comparison, the Majestic Pleasure Yacht has a 30% luck challenge and is considered brutally painful. For a Watchful challenge, this can be alleviated with Sudden Insights, but most sources of second chances cap at 21, meaning that a player only has five chances to fail. With a 32% success rate, this still means that around 10% of maximum Watchful players will fail this challenge after doing everything they possibly can, consequently losing at least a year's worth of grinding. As a result, only those who chose the Watchful benefactor would be able to pursue this year-round; everyone else would be limited to only trying this challenge during Neathmas to avoid losing such an absurd amount of wealth.


That being said, I rather like the idea, though I think it's a bit too focused on this idea of the NORTH and Seeking. There are so many more enigmas in the Neath, the High Wilderness, and Parabola, and nothing about Impossible Theorems really ties into Seeking. Nevertheless, such an archive would be a good parallel to the ruined library in Eleutheria - an archive of all that is outside the Judgements' light, rather than what once was. Such an idea would be quite befitting of a capstone celebrating one's achievements rather than costing them (though, of course, this would make such a library more cosmetic like Courier's Footprint and the Heptagoat as opposed to useful like an Ubergoat or the Cider).

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Kittenpox
Kittenpox
Posts: 869

3/25/2019
By the comments, I'm assuming this thing doesn't actually exist in-game.

Having said that, I'm inclined to agree with Azothi. If you spent AN ENTIRE YEAR grinding the materials using the most optimal methods, only to fail because of RNG? That would sound like a really effective way to make long-time players completely abandon Fallen London, tbh. :-/

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Emain Ablach
Emain Ablach
Posts: 348

3/25/2019
SMEN does this kind of stuff.

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Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him.

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Arcengal
Arcengal
Posts: 196

3/25/2019
The failure result should just redirect you to the Avid Horizon, given how you'd be feeling after losing over 12 months of grind to RNG.

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Ixc
Ixc
Posts: 365

3/26/2019
When “Oh. Oh no. Dear God. Oh God No. Nrub lliw I dna THRON og lliw I yademos“ is reflected, as it should be in Parabola, it becomes (sans certain bits): “someday I will go NORTH... doG reaD. no hO. hO.”

Thus, I postulate this library is curated by a Parabolan dog, or a paradog, if you will. I believe paradog would be sad you might abandon a dog by going North, but they’re still supportive of your life choices, and more importantly, you.

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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 208

3/26/2019
Ixc wrote:
When “Oh. Oh no. Dear God. Oh God No. Nrub lliw I dna THRON og lliw I yademos“ is reflected, as it should be in Parabola, it becomes (sans certain bits): “someday I will go NORTH... doG reaD. no hO. hO.”

Thus, I postulate this library is curated by a Parabolan dog, or a paradog, if you will. I believe paradog would be sad you might abandon a dog by going North, but they’re still supportive of your life choices, and more importantly, you.


Creator's Headcanon!

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Mr Netae- SEEKING MR EATEN'S NAME

Aaron Wimbleton- Private Detective. Some Medical Experience.
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