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10/25/2018
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LONDON'S FIRST BONFIRE SPECTACLE!
WATCHMAKER'S HILL!
ALL OF LONDON WELCOME!
Delicious friends, the Exceptional Story for November is here!
The Ministry of Public Decency are resurrecting an old London tradition: Bonfire Night. But unsanctioned fireworks and effigies are circulating in the crowd. Investigate incendiary goings-on among the bonfires and revelers. Will you aid the troublemakers, or the constables? What harm, a little pandemonium?
A Little Pandemonium is the third story in the Season of Celebrations, and was written by Jack de Quidt. This Season invites you to attend three new festivals within London. You can begin each from the Season of Celebrations card.
Editing and QA: James Chew
Design: Olivia Wood and Jack de Quidt.
Art by Tobias Cook.
EXCEPTIONAL FRIENDSHIP
In addition to a new, substantial, stand-alone story every month, Exceptional Friends enjoy:
- Access to the House of Chimes: an exclusive private members’ club on the Stolen River, packed with content
- An expanded opportunity deck: of ten cards instead of six!
- A second candle: Twice the actions! 40 at once!
Finishing all three stories in the Season of Celebrations will make you eligible for an additional opportunity, to follow.
If you want to keep an Exceptional Story beyond the month it’s for, you must complete the related storylet in the current Season’s card throughout London. This will save it for you to return to another time.
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Thjazi
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10/25/2018
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I haven't quite finished the story yet-- though I've seen the Main Event-- but I have to say, this is the most *fun* I've had with an ES in months. There was a real thrill of anticipation for me, knowing what was going to happen and getting to decide how to play it all out (though that wasn't much of a decision for my devout Revolutionary) . I suppose there's a lot of locked-in dialogue and only the one decision, really, at least to this point, but anticipating the choice and its results made every new bit of information delicious-- and there's still so many little comments whose fit into the story I'm very curious about!, While there may not be the same levels of deep lore that some stories have brought, getting to meet and talk with so many Londoners is at least as fun for me and my character. It's been great to have an ES where my character can sort of kick back and just enjoy the company of fellow Londoners.
-also, that art of the mask is amazing!
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Tystefy
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10/25/2018
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I like what you did with the title of this thread. It really is her story more so than ours.
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loredeluxe
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10/26/2018
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There are just a few observations I made with attached questions.
1) In the story, they refer to taking the Revolutionaries to "vans". Since Fallen London is set during the Victorian era, I presume there are no automobiles in London, so what exactly did the story mean by police vans?
2) I'm pretty sure I saw no skill or luck challenges in this Exceptional Story. Is this the first Exceptional Story with no challenges or am I misremembering?
[spoiler]3) In regards to the Revolutionaries, is this the first time we've ever seen November? I recall at least half the other members of the Calender Council, but I can't quite recall if I've ever seen mention of November in any other story.
4) The big reveal in this story is that the Revolutionaries stole something from the Devils that they used at the bonfire as a prototype for the Liberation of Night and it's quite terrifying. I know the Devils are beings of chaos masquerading as beings of order, but is this suggesting they may play a role in the Great Work and that the Revolutionaries are using their ideas?[/spoiler]
5) Finally, fully siding with the Ministry gives you a Searing Enigma. The most hilarious aspect of this story to me is that the in-universe justification is a pamphlet given to all junior members of the Ministry of Public Decency. Yeah, it boggles the mind at what secrets could be in a simple training pamphlet that could be such a damning secret.
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Barse
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10/27/2018
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This was super fun! I don't know if I'm projecting because I knew going in that this was by a new writer, but it really did feel like a breath of fresh air. The first half of the story did a fantastic job creating an atmosphere and sense of place, letting you hang out with the attendees and explore the Spectacle, taking actions that were unrelated to your purpose and allowing you to enjoy the event. It really did a great job of evoking (at least my personal experience of) the real social warmness of a bonfire in a field on a chilly night.
[spoiler] Then the fact that these incidental social interactions actually did matter, giving you little clues into the identities of the masked revolutionaries, allowing you piece the backstory of the Lost Cell together for yourself, was extremely rewarding. Being able to watch a dog tear around a picnic was endearing and fun; for that same dog to then come back at an unexpected juncture and put a whole new spin on the masked intruders (and likewise for the child, deviless, etc.) was a delight!
Plus, I've wanted to meet November ever since I learned of the Calendar Council (possibly only because November is my birth month, but shh), so to finally meet her and find out she's such an interesting character was great. I very much hope November returns in the future.[/spoiler]
This story was well-paced, obviously extremely considered in its plotting, and managed to present an authentic and enjoyable Neathy Bonfire Night Spectacle while balancing some extremely significant lore on its tail end. (If I had just one gripe: a four-action epilogue, really? I thought I was nearly done than had to wait about an hour to actually finish, grumble grumble.) I hope Jack comes back to write another story!
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The Curious Watcher
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10/26/2018
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This story only strengthened my inherent dislike for the Revolutionaries in general. Hell, even the Ministry of Public Decency is trying to spread some fun with a Bonfire Festival (that doesn't involve burning censored material) and the moment they do, someone has to ruin the fun. This is why we can't have nice things, because there will always be some idiot that will try to ruin it with politics.
I can understand why the Minister is so deadset on getting the fireworks and the unapproved effigy. The Masters and the Traitor Empress both hate, to the point of obsession, loud noises. Having a ton of fireworks go off at once would probably cause a lot more damage, not because of the fire that will spread, but what the leading powers of London would do to anything in their path. I didn't initially know who would be the effigy since I called the cops on them, but I had a good guess and it turned out correct. Very rude, even for Revolutionaries.
I swear on my 50+ Sanguine Ribbons and my Renown 50 for Revolutionaries that November will rue the day she challenged me. Prison would be a mercy compared to what happens to those that crash my parties.
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Diptych
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10/28/2018
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I'm not saying there's no resemblance, but I don't think they're actually the same person.
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10/28/2018
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The word remember shows up a whole lot when dealing with November, but y'know what word doesn't? Forgot. Lilac's defining characteristic is that she's saturated with irrigo and anyone who looks at her immediately forgets about it- and yet curiously everyone in the storylet manages to recall her presence & activities throughout. Besides which, her mannerisms and dialogue are nothing like Lilac's- and Lilac was never described as having stars painted on her fingernails. Oh and lest we forget: *Lilac is in love with The Bazaar*, her turning out to be a revolutionary makes less than no sense.
It's a neat theory, but it really doesn't hold water.
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silurica
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10/28/2018
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Purple, or a certain neathy color with similar shade, isn't exclusive to one character. It shouldn't be.
[spoiler]I interpreted the blank book in the Calendar Code as an indication November has been absent for a while. It would fit with how November has apparently lost herself to irrigo in this story, and the event here initiated by the lost cell of revolutionaries seem to have been set up to jog her memory.[/spoiler]
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Diptych
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10/28/2018
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Begging your collective pardon; I tried to edit my earlier post and it got all messed up, so I've removed it.
phryne wrote:
Something that's still nagging at me is that awful dog. To whom did it belong now?
I assumed that the artistic lady who claimed it during the early stages of the night later slipped away to join the parade - as did representatives of the other bonfires.
Barse wrote:
Lilac's portrait did show up at least once, although possibly not depending on which path you took:
I'm fairly certain that when I reached that part of the story, I saw the generic portrait, not the Lilac one. I'm guessing this was some sort of glitch, and the generic portrait was the intended one.
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Greg M
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10/27/2018
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I very much enjoyed this story! I loved the fact that it all took place on one night and almost completely in one overall location, which is very difficult to do from a writing standpoint. It's a nice changeup from October's Magicians and September's For All the Saints, although those were very good and brilliant, respectively.
This is also the first FL story where I've gotten a thrill just from the reveal of the identity of a character.
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phryne
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10/28/2018
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I love everything to do with the Calendar Council, so this one was for me.  Very atmospheric story in general, I enjoyed imagining myself surrounded by bonfires while playing this on such a gloomy Sunday. 
Two issues I have to mention: first, the typos. People have brought it up already, both here and in the Hallowmas thread: recently, FL's new content seems to fairly seethe with them. Especially punctuation, spacing, and case distinction are sorely lacking. Is everyone so caught up with SSkies that nobody proofreads for FL anymore? Surely not.
Secondly, I was really missing an option to laugh into the minister's face at the end of the Spectacle, telling him how I never intended to stop any revolutionary goings-on in the first place. The way the story was written, it seemed as if my char made the decision not to interfere on the spur of a moment; and to the Minister it seemed as if they were just totally incapable. I would have loved to make things entirely clear to him :P
[spoiler]As to Lilac being November: it's possible. I was struck when her portrait suddenly appeared (exactly once in the whole story) as I had absolutely not been thinking of her until then. She would've left the Council when she fell in love with the Bazaar. As a tattooist, her keeping a sketchbook wouldn't be out of the ordinary, and the sketchbook seems important since she used this roundabout way of explaining her connection to the masked revellers. I agree that her mannerisms seemed different, but we've only ever seen Lilac at FotER, when she's on official Bazaar business. Here she was just privately enjoying herself.
Has Lilac's portrait ever been used for anyone but her up to now?[/spoiler]
Something that's still nagging at me is that awful dog. To whom did it belong now?
Oh, I almost forgot: absolutely loved the Solitary Sceptic! My kind of person and now probably my fav NPC in the whole game. :P
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Plynkes
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So sorry for being months and months late, but I came across this just now and actually know the answer...
loredeluxe wrote:
1) In the story, they refer to taking the Revolutionaries to "vans". Since Fallen London is set during the Victorian era, I presume there are no automobiles in London, so what exactly did the story mean by police vans?
The word van came about in the 19th Century, and it meant then pretty much what it means now: an enclosed or covered wagon (in British English it can also mean an enclosed railway car, not sure if that's the case in US English). Of course vans in those days had horses pulling them. A police van was a carriage for transporting prisoners. There is an English folk song from the 1860s called "The Smashing of the Van" about a true life incident in Manchester when two Irish rebels were violently broken out of a police van (there were three in the van, only two escaped).
Incidentally, there were a few cars with internal combustion engines around in the 1890s, though they weren't as common as steam-driven vehicles (and both were hopelessly outnumbered by horse-drawn ones). I've often wondered why we've never seen either in Fallen London.
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Raihan
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10/27/2018
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DeserterKalak wrote:
But am I reading too much into it? Is she just a bohemian revolutionary?
I am fairly certain that the parade includes Bohemians, Aristocrats (namely the Skeptic) and either the eldest son or both the parents of the family we meet. Possibly some devils too, given what happens at the end.
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Lavaeolus
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10/26/2018
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Really enjoyed the initial bits of this, wandering around the festival, seeing both devils and regular families at play. In the end that section was pretty static, of course, but I liked the sense of build-up running through it.
For those curious, in the end I played both sides, to the extent that was possible. [spoiler]I stopped the fireworks, somewhat to my regret, but left the effigy in tact, also somewhat to my regret. I closed the box and helped the Ministry, but turned my info to the, ahem, 'Purple-Clad Revolutionary' and defended her from the crowd.
In the end I got a message confused at my alliance with the Constables, but nonetheless thanking me for ensuring the Spectacle was a spectacle, which came with a Night-Whisper.
I got a message from the Minister, rather concerned about what he had found out about the whole ordeal.
And I got a message from a month, grateful for 'a kindness'.[/spoiler]
I suppose there is no ending where the Minister is actually happy and pushing for a Second Bonfire? A shame.
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Raihan
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10/26/2018
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I should also add that I loved this story, the build-up, the choices, everything. This Season has been stellar in general.
So many pawns of the system! I sided with the Revolutionaries all the way, Closest to them that I am, and was happy to do so for the most part, despite my resistance towards the actual Liberation of Night. The choice of the effigy was pitch-perfect; it figures that the Minister behind the Specials' depredations is a self-important nervous wreck. It's always that sort you have to watch out for.
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10/26/2018
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Raihan wrote:
So many pawns of the system!
Black or white, if you're on a chess board you're somebody's pawn. Only way to be truly free is to play your own game.
"What I am is: bored. I've lived through so many revolutions you see, it's all so familiar to me. The wild eyes and the zealous ardor, the irresponsibility & the clatter- the noise of it all! From the drum rolls on the way to the guillotines to the sacking of the temples of byzantium, so much *noise* and anarchy- and in the end it's all so... disappointing."
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Raccoonajr
Posts: 105
10/26/2018
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Terrific story. One of my favorites. And, once again, my problem with authority figures has lead me to some questionable associations.
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Joscelin
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10/26/2018
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I really liked this. I certainly should have known better than to help the Revolutionaries, given what I know their end goal to be, but this story did a good job of leading me down that road. I'd stand by every choice my character made, but I think I'll replay it when I can and just try to keep things fun without becoming ominous.
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Tystefy
Posts: 450
10/25/2018
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The Ministry of Public Decency apparently does not know their limits of being able to make things unfun.
I mean... bonfires? Fireworks? They honestly expect to be able to control this?
… Going to make the finale so loud it'll blast right through the Palace and deafen the Empress herself...
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The Curious Watcher
Posts: 263
10/28/2018
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Lilac shouldn't be November, despite both of them favoring purple. Any and all resentment she has towards the Bazaar should have been left at the Cave of the Nadir, leading Seekers onwards towards the Reckoning, not the Liberation of Night.
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Nudraxon
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10/28/2018
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This one had a bit of a slow start. Now that I think about it, I think that's because what would normally be the hook for a story like this, the mystery of what's going on with these masked revelers and what they're planning, isn't introduced until a considerable way into the story. At first, it seems like the stakes for the story are only whether some unauthorized fireworks are going to be set off, and whether an unauthorized effigy will be burned, which isn't exactly super engaging. However, as the mystery is slowly introduced, there's a real sense of anticipation that builds. And when things get going, they really get going. In the end, I enjoyed this story far more than I thought I would after playing the first little bit.
I'm still not entirely clear on why those masked revelers did what they did. Why the effigies, why the masks, bells and horns, and why that box? There's a clear connection to the Liberation (side note: why no Advancing the LoN for helping the revolutionaries?), but I'm still not clear on why. I did feel the stirrings of an ancient hunger when one of the revelers mentioned a "reckoning", but that seems to have been a coincidence. I was kind of hoping to get some clearer answers by the end, but this wouldn't be Fallen London if all of our questions were answered.
Also, the Ministry must be even more incompetent than I thought if they believed that I would be a trustworthy unofficial agent for them, given my clear allegiances.
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Lady Karnstein
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10/31/2018
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I, and Caroline, really enjoyed this one. I felt a bit pressed to action at the end (Caroline would have preferred, for the most part, to watch it play out once the parade arrived) but still it was very good, the writing was top notch, and all those little details coming up was just marvelous. It was an absolute joy to play.
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Nudraxon
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10/31/2018
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Phèdre Delaunay wrote:
I really loved the intimate moment between November and the masked guy... I think the real theme here is how hard it is to let go of ideals, to move on and accept that you've changed.
November still dislikes the Minister, so yes, she's tecnically still a revolutionary - but you can sense the Liberation of Night has lost all meaning for her. For the masked guy too, probably, but he's the kind of person who lived and breathed for a cause, and letting go of it would be terrifying to him - he and November clearly shared something, maybe it was love but even so, it was the love that stems from a common goal. And November can't find it in herself to tell him that she doesn't really care anymore - I thought that moment was incredibly touching and sad.
In the end, she's prepared to be potentially arrested for a cause that is not even hers anymore, rather than disappoint an old friend. I think her letter in the epilogue might mean that she resigned from the Council, although that's not clear... well, anyway, I found her really interesting.
I personally interpreted that moment a little differently.
[spoiler] Going back to November's sketchbook metaphor, the "Beautiful drawings in the centre of pages" would be her actual plans, possibly related to the Liberation. The little sketches in the margins would be her little ideas that she had no intention of actually carrying out. Like, for instance, wouldn't it be fun to stage a mini-Liberation in the middle of a public celebration? However, when she became a revolutionary leader who clearly inspired many people, some people took those ides seriously. And when she finds out, she decides to go along with it, rather than telling the truth and letting down all of the people whom she has inspired. I personally saw that more as a reflection on how leaders of movements can be held up as symbols, to the point where they can't even have ordinary human flaws (such as, say, forgetfulness), as many people will be willing to follow even their least thought-through ideas.
While she clearly has been out of action for a while (possibly relating to memory problems?), I'm not sure if that means that she has given up her cause. I didn't really see anything in her letter that indicated to me that she was resigning from the Council. The fact that she sends you one of the masks could be seen as a passing of the torch, but it could also be seen as her re-committing to her cause.
Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of this. [\spoiler]
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Monara
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11/1/2018
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Raihan wrote:
Thanks either way.
This is the one:
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Miranah/15017848
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Jermaine Vendredi
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11/20/2018
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Amalgamate wrote:
Note that if you reset it, I think you lose its unique item. You don't get to replay it to collect all of the different ones, I think?
I've played a number of ES stories well after they were issued and have sundry unique items cluttering the place up. Unless you play all three in the season (and re-access the epilogue), the unique items should stay in your inventory.
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Skinnyman
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11/29/2018
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Be sure to hurry to unlock this story if you haven't!
It's about to get locked while the new season will unveil itself!
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Anne Auclair
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12/28/2018
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I was a little surprised to learn that the formidable Ministry that regularly terrorizes London is being led by Ned Flanders. The ideology of control (spectacle that preserves social hierarchy) achieves perfect synthesis with one OCD guy's idea of a good time ("One firework! Just one! It goes up in the air and then poofs and falls back to earth!" - oookay).
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Jolanda Swan
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12/29/2018
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The banality of evil indeed. His reactions also made it easy to light the night up.
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Anne Auclair
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12/29/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
The banality of evil indeed. His reactions also made it easy to light the night up.
I could actually sympathize a little with his desperate desire for everything to be just perfect and go according to plan. When the single firework goes off he just seems so happy!
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Jolanda Swan
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12/30/2018
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...which is why this is the only story I am replaying. I aim to make a lovely spectacle and stop the final abomination from taking place. I assume that is doable, right?
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Great Pigmeat
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11/7/2018
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My interpretation is that November is still a Revolutionary. However, the Masked Parade is a Revolutionary Cell that's been lost and disconnected somehow, nevertheless they carried out the plans for the Spectacle, originally designed by November.
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hwoosh
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11/8/2018
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PSGarak wrote:
In digging into November's identity and motivation, this quote in particular is lodged in my mind.
November wrote:
"Of course I remember," she says. "Every waking day."
Source: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/15144059 (Emphasis not in the original.)
It's an odd phrase to use. It sticks out. I feel like there's a lot of weight in those words, with a very subtle message... and I don't know what it is. But it begs a connection to Dreams, which would point back in the general direction of Lilac. I'm not familiar enough with Lilac to really weigh in on that connection.
I wonder if November's appearance here is setting the stage for something in Sunless Skies.
I haven't played the story yet, but I think you might be reading too much into it. "Every waking day" is certainly a more emphatic expression than "every day", but it's not an especially unusual phrase.
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olicole
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11/17/2018
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Some questions from a new exceptional friend. I received an item at the end - is this item likely to feature in the main game at all? Or in Exceptional Stories in the future? Or is it just a nice memento?
Can I play it again, and collect any other items that might come from other choices?
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11/17/2018
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olicole wrote:
Some questions from a new exceptional friend. I received an item at the end - is this item likely to feature in the main game at all? Or in Exceptional Stories in the future? Or is it just a nice memento?
Can I play it again, and collect any other items that might come from other choices?
All Exceptional Stories give a unique item regardless of your choices. If you play all three stories in a season and get all three items, you'll unlock a seasonal conclusion with special story and a reward. Some Exceptional Stories do give other unique items depending on your choices, but this isn't one.
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Raihan
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10/28/2018
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0bsidian Fire wrote:
About November's real identity.
[spoiler]The text specifically calls her the Purple-Clad Revolutionary and one of the masked parader/revolutionaries asks the Purple-Clad Revolutionary if she remembers them and she tells all the revolutionaries that she does, all the time in fact. To top it all off, November's book in the Calendar Council is blank, like the person it was about was forgotten. And then Novembers specifically mentions she will remember you in her note at the end...
Remembering things is mentioned too often for me to think it's a coincidence. Combine it with the specific color November wears and I find it's easier to assume she is Lilac then that she isn'.[/spoiler]
In light of the spoiler which I did not come across, would you happen to have a echo of this?
Thanks either way.
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silurica
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10/29/2018
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phryne wrote:
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[spoiler]Yes, Lilac's portrait has been used here as well. It's one of the rarely used portraits, but the filename is rather generic too on hindsight...
As for your proposed timeline, I can't help but doubt it since the November we see here seems to be a revolutionary thorough and thorough, that even when she's merely enjoying herself and has trouble remembering what she did in the past, she still bears the title of Revolutionary, expresses her distrust in the Ministry, and shows connection with the lost cell. It's even implied that after the event of this story, she's willing to go back in action. That kind of clashes with the Lilac we know who is Bazaar Lover #1 and even went as far as ditching the part of her that couldn't love the Bazaar in the Nadir.
The various quirks November has, like her fondness of fruits and her nail decoration, also makes me inclined to believe that she's a new character entirely.[/spoiler]
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Optimatum
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10/29/2018
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Re: November and Lilac, the sketchbook is a metaphor.
[spoiler]Remember, her description of this sketchbook is answering why these Revolutionaries know her. November isn't an artist; she doesn't have sketches framed in a gallery. She's explaining that she sketched out plots to pass the time, and now she's discovered that these Revolutionaries took this plan seriously, figured out the details, and are executing it in front of you.[/spoiler]
Also, while I quite liked the latter portion of this story, the beginning was disappointingly linear. I would have loved options to explore my own character's motives in working with the minister, even if it wasn't mechanically relevant. Instead of just accepting his assignment without reason, why not options to accept with intent to sabotage, or with a personal vendetta against the Revolutionaries?
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Ixc
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10/29/2018
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Lilac gave up the part of her that couldn’t love the Bazaar to better serve it. What remains of her is loyal to the Bazaar; the part that isn’t is immaterial.
Unless... what makes a better double agent than one you can’t remember?
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Phèdre Delaunay
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10/30/2018
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I loved this story, although it was not as nerve-wracking and frayed with indecision as others, as I knew from the start I wanted to go with the Revolutionaries.
I really loved the intimate moment between November and the masked guy... I think the real theme here is how hard it is to let go of ideals, to move on and accept that you've changed.
November still dislikes the Minister, so yes, she's tecnically still a revolutionary - but you can sense the Liberation of Night has lost all meaning for her. For the masked guy too, probably, but he's the kind of person who lived and breathed for a cause, and letting go of it would be terrifying to him - he and November clearly shared something, maybe it was love but even so, it was the love that stems from a common goal. And November can't find it in herself to tell him that she doesn't really care anymore - I thought that moment was incredibly touching and sad.
In the end, she's prepared to be potentially arrested for a cause that is not even hers anymore, rather than disappoint an old friend. I think her letter in the epilogue might mean that she resigned from the Council, although that's not clear... well, anyway, I found her really interesting.
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Jolanda Swan
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10/30/2018
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That was one of the most touching elements of the story, along with the everyday family, and the noble making fun of the fop. Small moments all, and yet so real in themselves.
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AlchemicalGod
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10/25/2018
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While I certainly enjoyed this story, I found myself locked into supporting the Revolutionaries, due to a misunderstanding about what they were doing a side entrance. My character who otherwise loathes the Revolution, must have been taken in by the pandemonium and decided to join in wholeheartedly!
Lovely story, but will probably reset it once the option is available.
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Zane Darmond
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10/26/2018
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I haven't been around too long (since July), but this is my favorite Exceptional Story yet. Both the relaxed opening act in which you simply wander the spectacle making conversation and the climax were enthralling in their own ways. I ended up siding with the revolutionaries, though I think their statement could have been made with a little less overt rudeness. I felt terrible for the minister, seeing the state he was left in at the end of things.
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Blaine Davidson
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10/27/2018
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I probably would have been more amicable to the Minister if he compensated me upfront with anything. I also found him very rude, constantly reminding me that I was not officially apart of anything.
Well if I'm not officially with you, I have no loyalties now do I?
That being said, I wish there was an option to turn the fireworks in after repeatedly called a "dog" by the Revolutionaries. Am I being petty?
Probably.
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0bsidian Fire
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10/28/2018
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This was a great ES. I liked how it lulled you into a false sense of "oh, I guess this is just a meh ES about bonfires held by the Ministry" only to become much more serious and exciting and end with a zing of lore. I will say that I am an anti-Revolutionary at heart and man... was I glad I stuck with that all the way though. I definetly had a good chuckle at the Minister telling me I was far too useful to stick behind a desk at the end.
[spoiler]Hoo boy. Lilac is November. No wonder she wanted that infusion of Irrigo. The way this turns how I regard her on it's head is very interesting. It also makes me very, very glad that I haven't sold the location of the Nadir yet. I've yet to come across and ES that causes me to change how I think about characters this much in a while.[/spoiler]
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0bsidian Fire
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10/28/2018
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About November's real identity.
[spoiler]The text specifically calls her the Purple-Clad Revolutionary and one of the masked parader/revolutionaries asks the Purple-Clad Revolutionary if she remembers them and she tells all the revolutionaries that she does, all the time in fact. To top it all off, November's book in the Calendar Council is blank, like the person it was about was forgotten. And then Novembers specifically mentions she will remember you in her note at the end...
Remembering things is mentioned too often for me to think it's a coincidence. Combine it with the specific color November wears and I find it's easier to assume she is Lilac then that she isn'.[/spoiler]
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Barse
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10/28/2018
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Sir Frederick wrote:
I only ever had the generic bohemian portrait appear for the Revolutionary, and am a little baffled as to what everyone's talking about.
Lilac's portrait did show up at least once, although possibly not depending on which path you took:
[spoiler] [/spoiler]
I do agree though, I rather think they are someone entirely new.
edited by Barse on 10/28/2018
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