Diptych
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8/20/2018
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Mutton Island heaves with visitors, the zee heaves with fish, and bosoms heave with mirth - and this thread heaves with questions!
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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NotaWalrus
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8/23/2018
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Optimatum wrote:
As I understand it, the sorrow spiders don't have any supernatural powers of persuasion; the Spider-Councils are just really good at running cults.
I mean, if a mountain of spiders told me to swear fealty to it, I would. I'm not going to argue with a mountain of spiders.
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Ignacious, the Fluid Professor, he will accept most social invitations, including boxed cats and affluent photographers (but only betrayals), though he is absent-minded and might take more time than entirely necessary. He apologizes.
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
8/22/2018
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I think a lot of the more obscure issues are discussed here and there in the forums! They are the ones that make you wonder if you have been playing a different game, before you realize they are pulling from 5 different games, the candle tumblr, three obscure tweets by Alexis Kennedy, a note Italo Calvino made in the back of his laundry list and a real life goat invocation.
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Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
8/22/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
When I play Empress's Shadow, what would I give up/miss out on if I choose the path to get a Judgment's Egg?
Asking because I want it for collection purposes, but I also want to hoard as many Fragments of Tragedy Procedures as possible, so I'm weighing my options as to the Egg sources to avoid spending Regnant Coins on it.
There's a bunch of different endings, one of which gives the Egg. The other endings give various other 62.5 echo items, but nothing unique. So you'd mostly be missing out on the story for a different ending.
maylee henst wrote:
For example, '\the sorrow spiders? Do they control or influence their hosts? What's their deal?
As I understand it, the sorrow spiders don't have any supernatural powers of persuasion; the Spider-Councils are just really good at running cults.
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Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
 Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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incerteza
Posts: 103
8/20/2018
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GuesssWho wrote:
On top of your head? Are you wearing the list as a hat then? :p
Oops. Not a native speaker, sorry.
(Also, not the weirdest thing I wore as a hat  )
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
8/21/2018
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They are higher on the Chain. Whatever relation humans have to animals, the Masters probably have to humans. They seem on average larger, stronger, faster, tougher, smarter. There is some variation among them, though.
Let's not forget, they don't age (or at least not on the scale of human civilizations). And their affinity for markets and capitalism seems to be something common to their kind, not just to this particular group of them.
It's a little hard to tease apart what is a property of their kind versus what is a result of age and experience and knowledge. There are many secrets in the Neath that have power, which the Masters are privy too. But then again, humans aren't born with language or swords or dirigibles either.
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Tyrconnell
Posts: 271
8/22/2018
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Yes. That's the point of it, putting all the lore in one place!
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Tyrconnell, a gentleman and doctor of diverse interests and multifarious proclivities
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ChangelingChilde
Posts: 231
8/24/2018
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Have you noticed that 'Mr Eaten' is seven letters? So is 'candles.' So are 'Mr Fires,' 'Mr Veils' and 'the Vake.' 'A reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely' is seven words, as is 'the light on the edge of sleep.' What other such sevens have you found?
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DO you recall how the Hunger began?
I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can!
OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
--The Elfin Cannibal
Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.
Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897. Will be Vake-hunting next.
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Honeyaddict
Posts: 501
8/26/2018
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Arcengal wrote:
Apart from going North, are there any ways you can lose your ship once you've earned one?
Yes, in the Option "Put to Zee" in the Wolfstack Docks you can "Get rid of your current ship", but you cannot accidentally lose it.
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Honeyaddict, Scarlet Saint, Paramount Presence
pleasure to meet you.
Has some ideas the Masters won't approve of like some items and establishing a Colony in Parabola.
I will accept most social interactions (not duping). I do enjoy role playing as well.
Have some possibly still active codes!
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
8/23/2018
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The Wiki has guides for a few of the more complicated and frustrating aspects of the game, which Polythreme certainly qualifies.
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Polythreme_(Guide)
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incerteza
Posts: 103
8/20/2018
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GuesssWho wrote:
Aside from flight, what can the Masters' kind actually do?
Also, how likely is it that Eaten could still fly on tattered, mummified wings? Because it's such a great image
The Master's abilities, off the top of my head:
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From Bag a Legend:
- Getting bigger, or, perhaps, shape-shifting to a degree; echolocation; super tough skin
- Their pulled teeth still move on their own and can chew through iron or marble
From Seeking:
- Crazy resilience (at the very least, can survive a stab in the heart and being eaten alive for the entire day) even on the Surface, without the Neath's vitality
- Some (probably, most) of them have "dual nature", whatever it means
Misc:
- Speaking the Correspondence
- Being able to spawn animals (and humans, sometimes) after a lunch
- Getting tipsy or, perhaps, hypnotized by music
- Flying on the unmoving wings, so probably it's more magic than aerodynamics
To your second question, the wings probably aren't the main concern. If those guys don't really need aerodynamics, and even a pulled tooth still moves, a skeleton of a wing might suffice.
The main problem is, well, being dead.
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ChangelingChilde
Posts: 231
8/20/2018
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On top of your head? Are you wearing the list as a hat then? :p
Being dead doesn't seem to have stopped him, though, has it? If anything it gave him more powers, namely dreamweaving and being able to eat concepts and speaking out of wells. It also trapped him in the Neath and drove him fucking insane and Judgements know what else, of course.
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DO you recall how the Hunger began?
I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can!
OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
--The Elfin Cannibal
Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.
Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897. Will be Vake-hunting next.
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maylee henst
Posts: 14
8/22/2018
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Is there like a list of collected lore pages? It seems hard to keep up with the exceptional stories when there is a lot of lore I don't know. I am confronted by things that more seasoned players have more insight on, and it's kind of stressful. For example, '\the sorrow spiders? Do they control or influence their hosts? What's their deal?
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
8/22/2018
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Well, the I 'a a candle tumblr blog is by far the most comprehensive lore source.
http://saint-arthur.tumblr.com/
Helped me A LOT to understand what was going on in London and make sense of several ES.
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http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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maylee henst
Posts: 14
8/22/2018
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Oooh thank you. Maybe we should start like...lore understanding threads? Like everyone can give their spoiler free or non-spoiler free summaries of what they understand in threads about certain topics? And someone can maintain them. Would give me a way to practice my summarizing and data smooshing.
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Ixc
Posts: 365
8/21/2018
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Oh, and....
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Drinking their blood creates a dream link between them and being a lesser on the Chain.
Speaking of... this might be how they learn the languages of the Fallen Cities
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Pleased to meet you. Ixc, spy and detective. Inventor of the Correspondence Cannon.
Are you a Paramount Presence? Record your name here. For posterity, of course.
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
8/22/2018
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When I play Empress's Shadow, what would I give up/miss out on if I choose the path to get a Judgment's Egg?
Asking because I want it for collection purposes, but I also want to hoard as many Fragments of Tragedy Procedures as possible, so I'm weighing my options as to the Egg sources to avoid spending Regnant Coins on it.
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Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
8/24/2018
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There's even a category page for guides.
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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Cooper
Posts: 61
8/23/2018
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They possess a supernatural vulnerability to fire. 
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Remorseful Opportunist. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Padraig%20Cooper
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incerteza
Posts: 103
8/22/2018
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maylee henst wrote:
Oooh thank you. Maybe we should start like...lore understanding threads? Like everyone can give their spoiler free or non-spoiler free summaries of what they understand in threads about certain topics? And someone can maintain them. Would give me a way to practice my summarizing and data smooshing.
It'd probably be pretty hard to get a nicely-organized summaries here on the forum, mostly because the site search only returns top-5 results. Even if you somehow organize a new sub-forum with structured and well maintained lore-understanding threads, it still would be easier to ask than to find this info with a site search.
I'm not sure which format would suit it better. The Fifth City wiki sounds similar to what you describe, but it's often outdated.
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Deathjack999
Posts: 140
8/24/2018
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GuesssWho wrote:
What other such sevens have you found?
Do not pursue this, there will be no happiness if you do.
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Send me anything social, My FL account has the same username as this one.
Ambition Status: Waiting for new content in Bag A Legend.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
8/24/2018
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Deathjack999 wrote:
GuesssWho wrote:
What other such sevens have you found?
Do not pursue this, there will be no happiness if you do.
That's not true at all!
And of course seven is the number! Even Alexis' account had the ID 7.
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Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Amalgamate
Posts: 435
8/25/2018
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There's two big things that make Polythreme easy to beat.
The first is "paying your way". It doesn't take fate - use it in the early stages to pay either Romantic Notions or Surface-silk scraps, both of which you can get in Polythreme.
The second is the two opportunity cards, fractious furniture and zailors in polythreme's harbor. They have non-luck-based ways of raising fascinating or investigating, and polythreme has few enough cards that if you keep a full hand, you can draw the one you need pretty often.
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http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/amalgamate
Social invitations of all kinds welcome, especially games of chess and deadly sparring!
Also happy to help with nightmares, send sips of Cider, and plant battle.
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Harry P.
Posts: 116
8/25/2018
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Polythreme: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic23234-please-let-me-escape-polythreme.aspx#post166771
Fallen London in general: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic23818-useful-guides-and-explanations.aspx
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Harry P.: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/HarryP22h
A Magnanimous Gentleman Author with a tendency for melancholic monologues.
Elizabeth K. Broker: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Elizabeth%20K%20Broker
A Socially-Awkward Dueling Trickster with a thirst for vengeance and a soft spot for urchins.
If you are ever in need of any assistance, do not hesitate to ask either of them. The second one is still finicky, though.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
8/25/2018
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Daisy MacRae wrote:
I'm using AotB to improve shadowy, which is by far my weakest stat. If I open the box, will I lose accesss to the carousel?
You'll never lose access to that carousel so you can do whatever you please with the box!
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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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