Skinnyman
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8/21/2018
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With two options offering a 2.5 item with no menaces I decided to give it a go and see if it's profitable to farm E during this festival.
With my 288 Watchful I will pick to Listen to the Drownies' songs and make an average of the success and alt success so I came up with this:
| Spy on a delivery for the Custodial Chef | 1-5 | 1.725 | 0.08625 | | Listen to the Drownies' songs | 1-33 | 1.7 | 0.391 | | The Empty Chair | 34-66 | 2.5 | 0.825 | | The Mayor is at the Festival! | 67-100 | 2.5 | 0.85 |
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From this you must add the AP required to reduce the menaces so not better than the Court; unless you want EI and Sworn Statement.
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rahv7
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8/21/2018
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I think if done "right", this is actually profitable. A few remarks:
1. There are actually two options for the 1-33 range: "Listen to the Drownie's Songs" (which raises Nightmares) and "Dance with a Drownie" which raises Wounds. Both give 1-2 CP menaces, that means you can - on average - choose each option 26 times without hitting 8 in the respective menace.
2. Given (1) means that I can play an option in the 1-33 range 52 times. Assuming that *Sights at the Festival* has a uniform distribution, I can play a total of 156 options before I hit either Nightmares or Wounds 8.
3. Based on your table of profits, the average EPA for those 156 actions is (0.33 * 1.7) + (0.66 * 2.5) = 2.211 EPA.
4. It requires 5 actions to go to Mutton Island and 5 actions to return, so the total trip takes 10 actions.
5. Assuming we get social actions to reduce Wounds and Nightmares from an acquaintance (this would probably need to be an alt so the action investment isn't an issue) we need 6 offers of healing and 6 offers to reduce Nightmares to get back to 0 for both, for a total of 12 actions.
6. The total number of actions required is 156 + 10 + 12 = 178 actions
7. The average profit is (2.211 * 156) / 178 = 1.938 EPA
(As always, let me know if I made a mistake ... they love sneaking in  )
This looks pretty profitable. Not "Trading-urchins-at-the-Court"-kind of profitable but still pretty good. Plus, you are reasonably often in London (every other day) to do other things there. Obviously, the whole thing hinges on having either a good friend or an alt to provide the necessary menace-reduction offers exactly when you need them. If you need to reduce menaces at Mutton Island or do it in London using other means, I agree that the whole thing is not profitable.
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john sledge
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8/21/2018
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Nothing new? Disappointing. I'll stay in London.
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Jamilah S. Wolf
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8/21/2018
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What's the highest Running Battle possible while fishing?
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elderfleur
Posts: 77
8/21/2018
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Jamilah S. G. Wolf wrote:
What's the highest Running Battle possible while fishing? If you're absurdly lucky and willing to spend 27 Partial Maps, my numbers suggest you can manage level 15 maximum. If you don't spend a penny but spend/trade some Quirks at the end, you'll squeeze out 6 levels on the first go, then plateau at 7 on the second (after throwing your catch back the first time). If you refuse to spend Quirks or money, 5 on the first go, 6 on the second, and never any more. Importantly, you'll need to spend money/items at least twice to reach level 8+, which increasingly brings random chance into the equation even with exceptional Quirkiness (since you won't always have the chance to spend those items).
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Siankan
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8/22/2018
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You know, this festival makes me very glad that mayoral candidates have been getting thumbnail makeovers. Do you know how confusing this would be if the Jovial Contrarian and the Melancholy Curate still looked like one another?
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annalibertas
Posts: 161
8/22/2018
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elderfleur wrote:
Jamilah S. G. Wolf wrote:
What's the highest Running Battle possible while fishing? If you're absurdly lucky and willing to spend 27 Partial Maps, my numbers suggest you can manage level 15 maximum. If you don't spend a penny but spend/trade some Quirks at the end, you'll squeeze out 6 levels on the first go, then plateau at 7 on the second (after throwing your catch back the first time). If you refuse to spend Quirks or money, 5 on the first go, 6 on the second, and never any more. Importantly, you'll need to spend money/items at least twice to reach level 8+, which increasingly brings random chance into the equation even with exceptional Quirkiness (since you won't always have the chance to spend those items).
'Average' luck with high quirks + willingness to spend seems to top out between ten and eleven so that's what I'd assume is the normal best
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
8/22/2018
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I suppose this would be much more profitable with a cider to burn those wounds off. Though with a cider, one typically no longer cares about profit.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
8/22/2018
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One may need a Heptagoat or a new Cider!
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Kukapetal
Posts: 1449
8/22/2018
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Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I think it's a sly reference to how we all assumed the Mayor was obliged to show up for every Fruits of the Zee event.
But he IS at the festival and you can talk to him......in fact he's standing right next to this chair talking to you about it. If that's the joke, it's a confusing one.
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Jolanda Swan
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8/22/2018
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I took it as a joke referencing how useless Feducci was as a mayor.
On top of that, it was the Contrarian giving the people what they wanted... and making fools of them, as he usually does.
As for Fishing, even with spending all the items, throwing the catch back the first time and sacrificing quirks, I only got to 8+! Since there is no new item available, I will not keep trying but... am I doing something wrong?
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Ragnar Degenhand
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8/23/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
As for Fishing, even with spending all the items, throwing the catch back the first time and sacrificing quirks, I only got to 8+! Since there is no new item available, I will not keep trying but... am I doing something wrong?
I don't think so; it's the random element introduced at the end of the process. I had two cycles, producing almost the same catch value, but ended up with 4 and 7 respectively. The higher values are hard to get, as is the very low one. Someone did the figures upthread.
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Anne Auclair
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8/27/2018
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The whole thing with Feducci's chair is just amazing. I have seldom laughed so hard.
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Anne Auclair
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8/27/2018
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Sir Frederick wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
The use of the chair is certainly consistent with what we've seen to date of the Contrarian's character. It's a whimsical act, that appears to give people what they want (a visit from the Mayor!) but not in a way anyone anticipated.
Oh, yeah, this is Contrarian all over. It's taking something that's, in itself, incredibly simple (an empty chair; a discussion of politics; a law-and-order mayoral campaign) and, with a little nudging, turning it into grand political theatre (a series of emotional displays worthy of the opera; a lifetime's work; a scheme that's part revolutionary plot, part satirical farce, part intelligence-gathering on a massive scale).
I interpreted it as mostly a massive take that against Feducci and all the hopes that were placed in his grandiose confidence scam. Of course the chair could represent the Contrarian as well, but the Contrarian is self-aware that he, like any Mayor, is ultimately an empty chair. Feducci was not so self-aware.
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Jason5237
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8/27/2018
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The empty chair and related dialogue was priceless. As is much of how the Contrarian frames things.
=)
I will echo the sentiments of others about wishing we had new items available in the Wreckers Cove. Perhaps something for FB to reflect on for next year. Admittedly, they have a lot going on right now; so, understandable. But I enjoy Sackmas and FotZ the most each year, far more than any of the others. I would have preferred to see one of the other events get shortchanged in this regard, if at all. I may be in the minority, however.
That said, I really enjoyed the festival for a number of reasons. I’ll head back over this weekend for a second visit before it ends.
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Kukapetal
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8/28/2018
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
The chair is great! Do the chair storylet as often as you can for Extraordinary implications, and visit the Custodial Chef to turn them into Incunabula. When you get back to London, visit the University and use the Incunabula to make Searing Enigmas. Capital!
You know, this ended up being a great idea and this festival has probably been my most productive once since my first. Thanks so much for the idea!
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Catherine Raymond
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8/28/2018
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Sir Frederick wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
The use of the chair is certainly consistent with what we've seen to date of the Contrarian's character. It's a whimsical act, that appears to give people what they want (a visit from the Mayor!) but not in a way anyone anticipated.
Oh, yeah, this is Contrarian all over. It's taking something that's, in itself, incredibly simple (an empty chair; a discussion of politics; a law-and-order mayoral campaign) and, with a little nudging, turning it into grand political theatre (a series of emotional displays worthy of the opera; a lifetime's work; a scheme that's part revolutionary plot, part satirical farce, part intelligence-gathering on a massive scale).
I interpreted it as mostly a massive take that against Feducci and all the hopes that were placed in his grandiose confidence scam. Of course the chair could represent the Contrarian as well, but the Contrarian is self-aware that he, like any Mayor, is ultimately an empty chair. Feducci was not so self-aware.
I suspect Feducci was sufficiently self-aware, but he was not as sure of himself as the Contrarian, and would not say such things in public. That's all just my personal theory, mind, and the number of Regnant Coins I got (9) shows that a lot of my theories are wrong. :-)
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Gillsing
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8/28/2018
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
For more practical application of the Festival, I'd like to know if the event is a good echo grind. After all, I did just get 12.5 echoes in a matter of 5 actions from sitting in a chair. Would it be best to stay on the island for the time being, or would I be better suited sailing back to London? I consider it a good enough Echo grind to stay for the duration. 20 Actions listening to drownies sing for 30 Echoes and ~30 CP of Nightmares, 40 Actions getting 100 Echoes' worth of Sworn Statements and Extraordinary Implications, and then 10 Actions fishing and cashing that in for 10 Echoes' worth of Cartography items and -30 CP of Nightmares. A very rough estimate gives me 2 Echoes per Action, which I consider quite good. I have not advanced far enough in the game to sell urchins, in case that would be a more lucrative grind.
When fishing I always spend a partial map if I have the option the first turn, just in case I'll get so absurdly lucky that I keep getting that option. And I always try to spend one Zee-Ztory to bring the Running Battle up to either 6 (no map) or 7 (with a single Partial Map). I don't usually get to spend a second Partial Map soon enough to make it worth it, but people who need cove items should of course spend as many maps as they can to get a stranger catch.
Oh, and let Nightmares rise to Strange Catch x 6 CPs to definitely get the benefit of a lucky roll for the menace reduction. Handy to have two items to lower the level of Nightmares for safety, though if one stays inside the festival storylet until reducing that menace, it should apparently be safe to have Nightmares 8+. And then go fishing as soon as the sights at the festival is 1-33, and there'll be a 67% chance that the sights will be 34-100 upon return.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
9/1/2018
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Was there anything added to this second week of the festival?
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Jason5237
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9/1/2018
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I will be returning for my second visit this weekend, so I dont know yet. Someone will probably confirm shortly.
But I certainly would love to see an item or two added to the Wrecker’s Cove.
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