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Hannah Flynn
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8/16/2018
The Bazaar has been robbed and a certain coinage is illicitly circulating London. To encourage 'good citizenship', the Ministry is offering rewards for any coins handed in.

Those of you who took a stab - or an educated guess! - at the Mysteries will find that any correct answers have been rewarded, to the tune of 1 (one) Regnant Coin per correct answer. Find them in your inventory, under Curiosities.

The correct answers have been revealed on the Failbetter blog. This time, nobody had all of the answers correct! We will elucidate further on the results in a future blog post. The coins, while lovely, must be spent: they will be removed from your inventory if unspent by the end of 2018.

We hope you enjoyed these Mysteries and are glad of the rewards. Enjoy!
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Daedalus_Falk
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8/16/2018
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.

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stebuu
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8/16/2018
I maintain that "Fingers, amongst other things" should be a correct answer for what do the fingerkings want. wink

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DonaghyLogan
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8/16/2018
Argh - I have exactly fifteen coins, and I know what I SHOULD do with them . . . .

But I think I'm gonna adopt fifteen cats instead.

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Mikarissa
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8/16/2018
Im- Implacable Detective hid the key in the well?? What? How, when... Did anyone guess that? Were there any hints at all? Wow, my curiosity is really piqued. Can't wait for more info from FBG.

Wonder what's the highest number of correct answers... I only got 13 right - no great surprise here, I'm hardly a loremaster, though I've followed the discussions here on the forum with great interest. It stands to reason that someone must have gotten at least 15 correct, otherwise there would be no point in making the scepter available.

The coins, while lovely, must be spent: they will be removed from your inventory if unspent by the end of 2018.


Oh, thanks for telling us that. I was actually hoping to keep the last couple of coins... Ah well, suppose they're way too valuable for the Bazaar to simply let go.
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PSGarak
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8/16/2018
A side-note: The in-game name of the currency is Regnal Coin, but the item description also calls them Regnal Ketabases. If, like me, you literally never knew such a word existed, check out the link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katabasis

I don't know why such a thing would be a currency, exactly. But one can see why such things might have meaning to the Bazaar or its servants.

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Vavakx Nonexus
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8/16/2018
Reused NPC wrote:
I believe I may have gotten the third-to-worst amount of coins possible, except perhaps precisely 15 and 0. That number is 10.
I have to say, 14 is a strong contender, though it does earn its distinction through ravaging loss rather than torturous choices. Knowing you were just one right answer away from the most treasured stick is quite the painful sensation.

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hellaGumshoe
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8/16/2018
Ah, well... I managed to snag exactly 15, so I couldn't *not* take the scepter, but... if I'd only stuck to my guns on the Great Game question instead of going with the popular theory, I'd have that little cat, too!

(Pointless griping aside, I am absolutely ecstatic that I managed to get The Cool New Thing. Big thanks to everyone who posted their theories and stuff!)

Answers-wise, I'm very curious about the Detective's involvement in the Key business, and "The Woods In Winter" makes absolutely perfect sense, based on my interpretations of Nadir stuff and The Waltz, and reminds me of when I temporarily went theory-mad after playing through it. Good times.

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Reused NPC
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8/16/2018
I believe I may have gotten the third-to-worst amount of coins possible, except perhaps precisely 15 and 0. That number is 10.
Why do I think this is the third-worst possible amount of coins? Because, with 0, you of course can't get anything, and with 15, you're forced to choose between the cat and the scepter. At 10, I'm forced to choose between a Judgement's Egg (I've already got some Tragedy Procedures) or a cat and some smaller stuff. (This is of course just my view on it, as someone who likes collecting things and prefers not to have to choose.)
But enough gripes like that... The implacable who now? Of all characters? The detective we've seen so relatively little of? Was there even a hint at this in her election run? Honestly, I'd be seriously impressed by anyone who did get this...

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Vavakx Nonexus
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8/16/2018
I'm gonna join in with the Wych Street complaints - investing time and research into figuring out the proper street only to be told that Elderwick was instead a street that wouldn't even exist until ~40 years after the Fall in 1864 is highly unpleasant.

While I do understand the sentiment behind not requiring too much geographical knowledge, and do not mind Aldwych being marked as a correct answer, punishing players for actually putting in the research to figure out the time of the Fall and the streets that would have existed at the time just seems absurd to me.

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Dudebro Pyro
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8/16/2018
Damn, I really want to know what I actually answered now, because I'm not certain on a few. But either way, even assuming the worst, I can't find 7 wrong answers in the list that would warrant my 13 coins: even the most pessimistic assumptions on what I wrote come up at 6 (including putting in "Wych", which I'm not even sure I did, and completely messing up Mr. Sacks which I might have done but I'm not certain). An optimistic assumption says I should have 16-17 coins, more realistically maybe 15.

Maybe my lengthy explanation that the Bishop is hiding "Mr. Hearts, disguised as a Wings-of-Thunder bat from the Elder Continent" got filtered out early and never got read by a human, or triggered some "Wings-of-Thunder bat" filter designed to immediately weed out answers claiming it's literally just the bat. Or maybe my explanation that snuffers need wax for sustenance, to replace the wax-wind etc. etc., also got lost due to being a bit too rambling. It feels a bit harsh and unfair, especially since I'm not the only one even in this thread who seems to have gotten penalized for not writing laconic, substanceless answers.
And certainly Wych Street bums me out, because I'd have expected FB to appreciate the extra length players went through to find the proper obscure street, especially since Aldwych literally did not exist before the Fall.

Any word on the Discord whether a softer ruling on Wych and the War of Illusions, and perhaps a second look at the longer and more rambling answers, might be considered?
I'm totally not sore that I missed out on the really cool sceptre and don't even know why.

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incerteza
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8/16/2018
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.
Pedestrian? These coins apparently "underpin the laws of the universe". (I wonder how the Bazaar got them, though.)
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Azothi
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8/17/2018
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I mean, my grand theory (based on Salt's Song in Sunless Sea) was that the Great Game is a front for a cold war between the Judgements. But that's probably torpedoed at this point.
I suspect that this is part of an effort to distinguish the Great Game from this "Greater Game" that parallels the Great Game but is not equivalent. The White and the fierce old man in Vienna symbolize each other, but this is more a reenactment of a mythic archetype than an intentional cold war: as above, so below.

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Dudebro Pyro
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8/17/2018
A couple of other gripes I have with this:
- Most of the items aren't unique. And only a couple are actually rare at all! The Judgement's Egg being only obtainable through Flint as far as I'm aware makes it pretty hard/expensive to get (Edit: and seems like that's not even the case, although it's still the only strictly Fate-locked item on the list). Everything else can be gotten quite easily - almost all of it isn't Fate-locked (Fragments being the hardest to get, but they were distributed for free to pretty much everyone not even a year ago).
And one of the two (out of nine!) unique items is only obtainable with a near-perfect score (as three of the answers were so obscure that they were clearly not expected to be answered by any significant amount of people), while the other is literally the cheapest, leaving anyone with a "very good" score (which is the majority of people here) having to choose some entirely non-unique rewards.
There's nothing inherently wrong with non-unique rewards (as with the previous Mysteries run, which rewarded relatively boring Fate) but when you provide a unique currency and play it up as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get some truly unique rewards, the expectation is that the majority of rewards will be unique, and not just one participation trophy and one nigh-unachievable grail amidst a multitude of items ranging from somewhat uncommon to downright banal.†
- The coins aren't permanent. Why oh why? Such a beautiful collector's item! I know I'm not the only one who would keep at least a few as a memento. Certainly there's no narrative reason they couldn't be kept forever, and I can't think of a good gameplay reason other than FB just wanting to hurry people along.

Together with the quite dissatisfying marking that penalized people's correct answers, I'm honestly going to state the possibly unpopular opinion that I'm rather disappointed. The idea was great, and I definitely would enjoy more re-runs of Mysteries in the future, but the execution this time around could stand improvement.

†This also exacerbates the marking issue, as anyone who just barely missed out on 15 will feel cheated out of essentially the main worthwhile reward for the entire thing. Having the other tiers be equally unique would have made the "consolation prizes" less disappointing, while having the entire thing less hyped up as the opportunity for unique rewards (giving, let's say off the top of my head, an Incarnadine Fur Robe) would make missing out, whether deservedly or no, sting a lot less.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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8/16/2018
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.


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Sir Joseph Marlen
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8/16/2018
Well, there we have it! My total is 15 coins, which I used to get the Sceptre, and I'm happy to see new lore come to light on our rewards. I also can't wait to see what comes of the detailed explanations of the correct answers and how they'll fit into our current understanding of the lore. Especially information concerning the Key in the Well, considering that seems to have thrown many for a loop. Some explanation on how the cats gained their status as guardians and what the Woods of Winter truly is will be nice as well.

Also, I'll throw a penny into the Aldwych/Wych Street complaint. With Wych Street being the older of the two street names, many (myself included) presumed Wych to be the correct terminology. While I'll reserve full judgement until Failbetter has explained itself, I feel that both should be considered proper answers to the question. It especially stings, considering that I was one coin off from getting all the unique items.

Still, that was quite fun. I look forward to whenever, if ever, Failbetter decides to do another Mysteries challenge to players. It may be a bit tedious, but I find it fun to pour over echoes to the game as the community comes together to test how well they know the game.

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Ixc
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8/17/2018
The Detective likely threw the key in the well because of her deal with the Fingerkings. They helped her with a case, and she was supposed to deliver a mirror. I don’t know if the key serves as a mirror, however it clearly has value. In Ambition: Nemesis, the key holds great value to the devils manning a prison; In Heart’s Desire, the Manager speaks of being tempted by the key, which has some use to him. In all cases, the interested parties have a connection to Parabola and Polythreme. And in this case, the Manager wants his beloved back. So, my theory is that the Stone Tentacle Key can restore the King with a Hundred Hearts, or free him from the influence of the Fingerkings. Thus, they had the Detective take it and throw it down the well. The Devils want it for further control over or rewards from the Fingerkings.

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“The Stereoscopics just showed up one day,” he observes, apropos of nothing. ”They say they helped her once, when she was about to lose a case. She could never bear to lose. They want her help; a flawless mirror delivered somewhere.”

Detailed notes on her own allies: the Stereoscopists. Information on their personal histories, interest, vulnerabilities, and crucially, their dreams, has all been ruthlessly indexed... A single page is scrawled with notes on old cases involving mediums and mirrors. A heading reads: 'Re-open. Look again.'

“[The devil] clearly bored, intoned a list of circumstances under which I could visit Scathewick. “holding a piece of his liver no less than two ounces in weight. Having proof of an aunt's demise. Holding a soul V.S.A.H. or better in grade. That key in your pocket.”

'I slammed down the key on the counter, chipping off part of a tine. The clerk didn't seem to mind.

“Yes. You've been away a long time, haven't you? A hundred hands and a thousand eyes. And do I smell well water? No matter. I shall have to give you away again. I cannot be trusted with you. Not yet. That would be a weight greater than mountains.&quot The Manager solemnly places the key in his shirt pocket, next to his heart.

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annalibertas
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8/16/2018
I'm in the thirteen coins club, so the cat, the egg (I already have a fragment) and another queer soul to round my collection out at seven of em

It would be nice if they'd left our answers visible for a day or two so we could check them against the official list (or if I'd thought to screenshot them) as I had a lot of fringe answers and I'm not actually sure which ones I got credit for

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Vexpont
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8/16/2018
Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
Reused NPC wrote:
I believe I may have gotten the third-to-worst amount of coins possible, except perhaps precisely 15 and 0. That number is 10.
I have to say, 14 is a strong contender, though it does earn its distinction through ravaging loss rather than torturous choices. Knowing you were just one right answer away from the most treasured stick is quite the painful sensation.

14? Hey, that's my alt! Violin

Main got 12.

Oh, well. Which is quite a serious curse in FL, I reckon. On the upside, my excessively forensic investigation into the streets of Victorian London, leading me to suggest Wych Street as the ID of Elderwick, have apparently not lost anyone any points (after all, it's true -- 'Aldwych' as such existed in Medieval times, but not in Victorian times). I hope. Have not had much time to play FL for pretty much a full year, sadly.

(I guessed that the Pirate Poet hid the key in the well, on the somewhat wild basis that she is the only known person who could conceivably claim the be the youngest daughter of the King of Polythreme...and she still seems more likely to me than the Implacable Detective. Admittedly I have not played Exceptional Stories for a while, but:

FL Sidebar text wrote:

A Stone Tentacle-Key

No one in London knows where this key is. Or at least, no one who knows is telling. And anyway, this doesn't stop them talking. They say that the one man who knew where it was just vanished one night, along with his boat. They say he was probably eaten by a zee-monster. They say that pirates might have scuppered him out of spite. Some of them say he had already hidden the key before he died. One or two of them say that he sold it to a mad king in Polythreme who gave it to his youngest daughter for safekeeping before being eaten by a Stone Pig. It's probably safe to discount those ones.


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Mikarissa
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8/16/2018
Ixc wrote:
But I am wondering, will there be another source of Regnant Coins?

I sincerely doubt that. Otherwise, FBG would have to deal with a horde of incoherently screaming players (myself being the loudest) who spent their coins on other stuff, thinking that the Sceptre was forever out of reach, only to realize it wasn't out of reach after all.
Honestly, I'm getting palpitations just thinking about that. I'll have to defenestrate my computer if it turns out I could have gotten the Sceptre and didn't.
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earthbourn
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8/16/2018
Would love to be able to look back at my answers, because I didn't have the foresight to save them, and I'd like to compare.

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Azothi
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8/16/2018
My experience matches with that of Gillsing's.

There are three questions I definitely got wrong (Last February of sunlight, Great Game, key in the Well). Another three were more unclear (Iron/Steel Door, cats versus snakes/War of Illusions, Aldwych/Wych Street). Given that I received 15 regnant coins, this means that one of those three should have been counted correctly for me, at least, which would indicate that one of these is true:
  • Steel Door was a valid answer
  • War of Illusions was a valid answer
  • Wych Street was a valid answer


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Tsar Koschei
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8/16/2018
Dudebro Pyro wrote:
Aaaaaaa I'm at Court for another day! Could somebody give a quick rundown of the significant rewards please?

REWARDS FOR 1 COIN

A Short-Tempered Short-Hair A number of cats yowl and twine about the official's ankles. Perhaps he'd part with one.
The Short-Tempered Short-Hair is Dangerous and Dreaded.

A London Street Sign Should the official be giving these away?

A Queer Soul The Bazaar's cellars contain a multitude of rarities, scrupulously hoarded. These include unusual souls.


REWARDS FOR 5 COINS

A Bazaar Permit Imagine what you could get away with, if you were given permission.

A Cellar of Wine At least one Master keeps the stuff in abundance.

A Magnificent Diamond The Bazaar is unforgivably wealthy. It can afford to give you this.


REWARDS FOR 10 COINS

A Judgement's Egg The Bazaar is rumoured to keep souls of exceeding rarity in its vaults.

A Fragment of the Tragedy Procedures The Bazaar is rumoured to have prepared certain documents of instructions to be consulted in times of extremity. But he wouldn't just give one to you — oh, he would.

REWARDS FOR 15 COINS


The Property of Mr Wines A wooden box is tucked in the cart, to one side of all the detritus. It is branded with a seal denoting the property of Mr Wines.
The Sceptre is Persuasive, Dangerous and Respectable.


Very tough choice here. Having 14 coins I'm just short of the sceptre. Hard to say how much of a loss that is, since its properties are rather unclear.

Obviously I'll be taking either the egg or the fragment, but since I have no idea what either of them is good for, it's a bit of a shot in the dark. The 5-coin rewards are all rather unremarkable, so no great loss there. No clue as to the usefulness of a queer soul either, I do suspect I'll take one of those for good measure, along with a cat and a pair of street signs.
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TheThirdPolice
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8/16/2018
Hold up a second. The official answer to the 'Doors of the Bazaar' included Iron. I said Steel and I am nearly certain I was marked wrong for it. So what about this passage from the game?

> You set off for the Bazaar, bowed under the weight of the tremendous robe. [...] The Steel Door swings open to reveal a black-cushioned lift.

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Aardvark
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8/16/2018
Socotra wrote:
I don't want to make life difficult, but I got 13 coins, and I'm nearly positive I got 15 correct answers.



That's why I said the marking seemed rather strict to me. The particular way of phrasing or too broad/only partially correct formulations of the answer evidently played a crucial role.

I suspect with the amount of answers and players out there, the markings are not likely to be amenable to revision, as it would mean answering an impossible number of individual queries. But perhaps some of the less clear stuff could be changed on a general basis, adding a coin or two to everyone who answered in a particular way?

At any rate, I will be happy with obtaining a Judgement's Egg and a new cat. The Scepter is quite fancy, but not game-breaking to miss out on (hopefully).
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Lady Sapho Byron
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8/17/2018
Ixc wrote:
The Detective likely threw the key in the well because of her deal with the Fingerkings. They helped her with a case, and she was supposed to deliver a mirror. I don’t know if the key serves as a mirror, however it clearly has value.


If the mirrors can be opened, can they also be closed and locked?

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suinicide
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8/18/2018
cleanfear wrote:
Judgements egg can actually fairly easily be obtained through a certain fate locked expedition I believe.


The expedition gives silent souls, not judgement eggs.

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lukeskylicker
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8/18/2018
Alas, I finally return from the court of the wakeful eye and I have only 5 coins. I can get the limited time cat but not get the hard to obtain diamond... or get a completely normal diamond and miss out on the cat forever... 5 cats it is.

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Jamilah S. Wolf
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8/21/2018
In case anyone was wondering, I contacted FB about the Sceptre's status. Colored since it's an official answer.



Hi Jamilah,

Thanks for getting in touch! Fragments of the Tragedy Procedures and Judgement's Eggs are available in a couple of places in Fallen London - but I think the Sceptre will be a one-time exclusive. This may change - but I think given the unique nature of the Mysteries Closure we'd have to think very carefully about making it available to anyone else!

I'm afraid I did do a fair bit of digging on the Iron answer - and couldn't find anything in our lore to corroborate it; as such, I wasn't able to mark it correct.

Hope this explains things,

All the best,


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Azothi
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8/16/2018
Sceptre is +10 Persuasive, +3 Dangerous, and +2 Respectable. I have it equipped for now.

It also hints that Wines was the Master who fell from power from the Sunless Skies KS.
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Mr Sables
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8/16/2018
12 here . . .

A little disappointed with myself, as the 15 reward would have been perfect for my character, but an absolutely perfect game set up by FBG . . . it was great to see a community come together, unique rewards, and a lot of lore revealed that only adds to the enjoyment of the game. I'd love for something like this to happen again in future, as it was a rather enjoyable event in total.
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Optimatum
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8/16/2018
Azothi wrote:
My experience matches with that of Gillsing's.

There are three questions I definitely got wrong (Last February of sunlight, Great Game, key in the Well). Another three were more unclear (Iron/Steel Door, cats versus snakes/War of Illusions, Aldwych/Wych Street). Given that I received 15 regnant coins, this means that one of those three should have been counted correctly for me, at least, which would indicate that one of these is true:
  • Steel Door was a valid answer
  • War of Illusions was a valid answer
  • Wych Street was a valid answer



Official word on the Discord is that Steel is correct and got credit.

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8/16/2018
I still think that sidebar snippet is 90% a red herring, like the Correspondence ones. The only useful information is that it's at zee and has some possible connection to the Hundreds.

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PSGarak
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8/16/2018
Mikarissa wrote:
Ixc wrote:
But I am wondering, will there be another source of Regnant Coins?

I sincerely doubt that. Otherwise, FBG would have to deal with a horde of incoherently screaming players (myself being the loudest) who spent their coins on other stuff, thinking that the Sceptre was forever out of reach, only to realize it wasn't out of reach after all.
Honestly, I'm getting palpitations just thinking about that. I'll have to defenestrate my computer if it turns out I could have gotten the Sceptre and didn't.

Hannah said they will go poof at the end of the year. So if you want to hang on, just in case, you have a specific and finite timeframe. (Also, heed FBG's previous warnings about brinkmanship.)

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TheThirdPolice
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8/16/2018
Somewhat confused how I ended up with 12 coins and not 13 if Steel Door really did count, but I have long ago learned that completionism in multiplayer browser-based games is more pain than it's worth. Cheers for the fun challenge, Failbetter!

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Ixc
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8/16/2018
12 coins... I have enough salt to become a Zee god.

But I am wondering, will there be another source of Regnant Coins?

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Shadowcthuhlu
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8/16/2018
So, I'm a bit salty about all of this, so I hoping that I share this in a constructive matter.
My first problem is actually with the whole reward system. Mostly because by having exclusive rewards that can only be earned by exclusive currency. Which might be okay, if it wasn't for four of the questions basically being unanswerable using current clues. Those questions were fine the first time, when fate was the only reward. They gave us fun little teasers for future content and help fuel are mad theories. But with the coins and all that, it's turned what was mostly bragging rights and crazy theories into serious business. My lesser two complaints it that the specter is too expensive, especially with nobody getting more then 16 coins, and that I'm sad the coins are permanent items. I need more silly currency for my collection of surface coins and fake first city coins.

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Daedalus_Falk
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8/17/2018
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.


Rare indeed is the nation that deploys politics and spy craft for aught but power and wealth.


Sure, but it seems a bit simplistic that they're ALL going for the coins. I always sort of assumed that the Great Game was the gestalt of all spycraft and espionage.

I mean, my grand theory (based on Salt's Song in Sunless Sea) was that the Great Game is a front for a cold war between the Judgements. But that's probably torpedoed at this point.
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Barse
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8/17/2018
A Judgement's Egg is also obtainable through one ending to the Empress' Shadow.

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Vexpont
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Posts: 137

8/17/2018
Ixc wrote:
The Detective likely threw the key in the well because of her deal with the Fingerkings. They helped her with a case, and she was supposed to deliver a mirror. I don’t know if the key serves as a mirror, however it clearly has value. In Ambition: Nemesis, the key holds great value to the devils manning a prison; In Heart’s Desire, the Manager speaks of being tempted by the key, which has some use to him. In all cases, the interested parties have a connection to Parabola and Polythreme. And in this case, the Manager wants his beloved back. So, my theory is that the Stone Tentacle Key can restore the King with a Hundred Hearts, or free him from the influence of the Fingerkings. Thus, they had the Detective take it and throw it down the well. The Devils want it for further control over or rewards from the Fingerkings.

[spoiler]

“The Stereoscopics just showed up one day," he observes, apropos of nothing. "They say they helped her once, when she was about to lose a case. She could never bear to lose. They want her help; a flawless mirror delivered somewhere."

Detailed notes on her own allies: the Stereoscopists. Information on their personal histories, interest, vulnerabilities, and crucially, their dreams, has all been ruthlessly indexed... A single page is scrawled with notes on old cases involving mediums and mirrors. A heading reads: 'Re-open. Look again.'

“[The devil] clearly bored, intoned a list of circumstances under which I could visit Scathewick. "holding a piece of his liver no less than two ounces in weight. Having proof of an aunt's demise. Holding a soul V.S.A.H. or better in grade. That key in your pocket."'

'I slammed down the key on the counter, chipping off part of a tine. The clerk didn't seem to mind.

“Yes. You've been away a long time, haven't you? A hundred hands and a thousand eyes. And do I smell well water? No matter. I shall have to give you away again. I cannot be trusted with you. Not yet. That would be a weight greater than mountains." The Manager solemnly places the key in his shirt pocket, next to his heart.

[/spoiler]
edited by Ixc on 8/17/2018

I think the 'flawless mirror' thing from the Implacable Detective's Election run must be intended to be taken literally; delivering a mirror was a quid pro quo from the Detective in return for shady Parabolan help in solving a case. And the STK is not exactly thrown down the well, but hung up carefully in a hidden bag. It was definitely meant to be retrievable by a properly Ambitious person: the Three Sisters of Hunter's Keep all know it's in there and want you to find it, and Lucy hints "I bet I know what you're looking for. There's something in your life. An ambition." (the italic emphasis is in the original text). So if the four Ambitions all use the key eventually for different purposes, I would not be surprised.

The Implacable Detective is in deep with Parabola. OK. And the 'nasty, organic' shape of the STK and the fact it's made of some mysterious dark substance ('What's this carved from? Flowstone? Dark bone? Grey amber?' is its mouseover description) makes me wonder just where the material to make it came from. If it was from Mt. Nomad, which is just my supposition, I guess that's a rather tenuous link to the Elder Continent. But I'm still not making the final leap to 'and the reason the key-hider can only be the Implacable Detective is...'

Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Also, I'll throw a penny into the Aldwych/Wych Street complaint. With Wych Street being the older of the two street names, many (myself included) presumed Wych to be the correct terminology. While I'll reserve full judgement until Failbetter has explained itself, I feel that both should be considered proper answers to the question. It especially stings, considering that I was one coin off from getting all the unique items.

Oof. from being fairly confident that 'Wych Street' was an allowable answer, I'm now concerned that it caused a lot of people to lose a Regnant Coin. But even so, Aldwych just would not exist as a named place in C19/C20 London until after 1901; to call the area 'Aldwych' in Victorian times would be like referring to the ancient part of Paris around the Île de la Cité as 'Lutèce' -- educated people would maybe know what area you meant, but no-one had called it that for centuries.

It just surprises me, as some of the slightly warped geographical detail in FL is almost absurdly detailed. For example, there was no convivial establishment called The Singing Mandrake near real-life Victorian Covent Garden...but there was one called The Whistling Oyster, which is hilarious. I shall now go into its rooty, toothy, FL counterpart and cry into my fungal ale.

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DonaghyLogan
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8/17/2018
Skinnyman wrote:
This really looks lovely! Just back from Winking to check my coins... and... 14! upset

Congratulations on those who got 15+!
DonaghyLogan wrote:
Argh - I have exactly fifteen coins, and I know what I SHOULD do with them . . . .

But I think I'm gonna adopt fifteen cats instead.
But specially to DonaghyLogan!


Awww, bless :0)

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Tintinnabulum
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8/16/2018
Ah, makes sense then.

I got 12 coins (on my main, and 11 on my alt, oddly-- not sure how that happened, other than in the course of not making the sets of answers seem like copy-paste jobs I modified one answer slightly too much) so no Scepter for me. I already have an Egg and Fragment*, so I might skip those for multiples of other things, or just get one to sell. Or just get 12 cats.


*The Egg and Fragment would be a good pub name
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Catherine Raymond
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8/16/2018
I'm just grateful I got 9 Coins; so many of my answers were offbase, and I really wonder about the clues to some of them. The Great Game is played for the "secret currencies in the Bazaar's vaults"? Really?

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Monara
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8/16/2018
16 correct, 13 coins on one character and 14 on another.
I'm quite disappointed the exact phrasing used was that important in determining the score.

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Vexpont
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Posts: 137

8/16/2018
Optimatum wrote:
I still think that sidebar snippet is 90% a red herring, like the Correspondence ones. The only useful information is that it's at zee and has some possible connection to the Hundreds.

Agreed, and thus it was a wild guess because I simply could come up with nothing else (apart from: 'You did, you fourth-walling bastards', which I am fairly sure gained nul points, even though the mouseover description of the Stone Tentacle Key is pretty much a metaphor for a narrative being re-used by player after player; I think it describes the Key as being passed through many, many hands. But I don't have the Key to check).

But I am pondering why it could be the Detective. She's from the Elder Continent, at least partly; considering she appears far from young, and that Elder Continentals live a very long time, she may well be old enough to actually be a legit native of the Elder Continent. She's done a lot of things, no doubt. But why her?

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Aardvark
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8/16/2018
Ah, blimey, I am one coin short of the Scepter, because I apparently can't discriminate between Iron and Steel upset

The marking seems rather strict, however, and I'd appreciate knowing where the line has been drawn for Aldwych/Wych Street specifically. Perhaps a number of us fell into the trap of answering with a name of the street while the question was aimed at the general area?

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Jolanda Swan
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8/22/2018
Now that some time has passed...
Digging was fun. Lore, after all, is what the game is about. However the conclusion was really disappointing. Not sure what I was expecting (the cat, after all, which was new, was available to everyone). Still... perhaps for a year-long, unique event which digs deep to the lore of Fallen London the conclusion should be a bit more... substantial?
It is not only that the rewards were poor, especially for high level players. The game is its own reward. Which is why I guess I was expecting at least a storylet, like the one that concludes all ES seasons. Something to stand out. Or access to something more than echo-giving items in the end.
Again, this was a year-long, unique, lore focused event. Expecting it to conclude in a lore significant way, was not out of the question for story obsessed players (who are, after all, the ones who had invested the most in the event).
Still happy for the allusion to the coins.
edited by Jolanda Swan on 8/22/2018

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Aniline
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8/18/2018
Argh. The icon for the scepter is my favourite non-character art in all of FL. I miss when it was the cover art for an ES season, even though I didn't care much for the stories themselves.

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Optimatum
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Posts: 3666

8/18/2018
Jamilah S. G. Wolf wrote:
Alas, the Fragment is also Fate locked.



Not quite--it was also given out through last year's Advent Calendar. It might be again.

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Kukapetal
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8/19/2018
I only knew one answer and put joke answers for the rest but somehow I ended up with two coins. Not that I'm complaining :P Two kitties are better than one, after all, since it's always nice to get doubles of rare companions in case they turn out to be upgradable someday.

Thanks, FBG!
edited by Kukapetal on 8/19/2018
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Siankan
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8/17/2018
I wish I had access to my answers; by my count, I got eight of these correct, but I only have six coins. I wish I knew which ones I messed up on.

(N.B. This does not include my answer to the Snuffers question, which I didn't expect to be accepted [though it does answer the question, indirectly]. That one was a sacrifice to my sense of humor.)

In other news, it's a shame the coins have an expiration date. Otherwise, you can bet your Rubbery Lumps that Prof. Kan would keep one or two very safely.

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half-hanged
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8/20/2018
I'm here to join the pity train with 13 coins.. damn you, Implaccable Detective, I never liked you anyway.
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Dudebro Pyro
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8/24/2018
That's fair. One way to fix that would be to have the rewards be cumulative (i.e. instead of directly cashing in, you choose a "tier" and get everything from the lower tiers as well) but that obviously makes much less sense from a narrative perspective.

Maybe I'm just salty because I know I had more right answers than coins, so I feel like I might have gotten "cheated out" of the sceptre by the extremely strict marking. By my count I have 15 right answers without even stretching the definition of "right" or the interpretation of questions, and yet I'm stuck with the cat. Maybe if I had gotten enough answers just plain wrong, I wouldn't care as much. But eh, what's done is done, FB is obviously not going to change anything at this point so I might as well stop complaining and enjoy what I got.

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Gillsing
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8/28/2018
Huh. Well, if "Wych Street" was accepted as correct, then I don't know why I didn't get 16 coins instead of 15. I suppose it'll remain a mystery.
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phryne
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9/23/2018
Some time has passed now, has anyone yet remembered/discovered even the smallest clue anywhere in the game about the Detective hiding the key in the well?

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Kaijyuu
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8/18/2018
You can get queer souls from flash lays.

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Ixc
Ixc
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8/17/2018
According to the Oneiric Key, if a mirror misses a small fragment of glass, then they might not work.

Sunlight might work too, and simply covering a mirror at least stops its inhabitants from seeing through, or possessing.

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Dudebro Pyro
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8/22/2018
Much agreed. The Scepter is a great high-tier reward - but then below it suddenly there's nothing until you get to the "participation prize" tier; and grabbing a Master's own sceptre is rather astonishingly lore-devoid: you just... grab it, fork over the coins, and get sent on your way.

Not to mention the rather controversial marking which robbed quite a few people of a Sceptre, that would have otherwise gotten it with a bit of leniency or interpretation of answers whose intent and meaning, but not precise phrasing, was correct. *cough*
edited by Dudebro Pyro on 8/22/2018

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Socotra
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8/16/2018
Aardvark wrote:
Socotra wrote:
I don't want to make life difficult, but I got 13 coins, and I'm nearly positive I got 15 correct answers.



That's why I said the marking seemed rather strict to me. The particular way of phrasing or too broad/only partially correct formulations of the answer evidently played a crucial role.

I suspect with the amount of answers and players out there, the markings are not likely to be amenable to revision, as it would mean answering an impossible number of individual queries. But perhaps some of the less clear stuff could be changed on a general basis, adding a coin or two to everyone who answered in a particular way?

At any rate, I will be happy with obtaining a Judgement's Egg and a new cat. The Scepter is quite fancy, but not game-breaking to miss out on (hopefully).
edited by Aardvark on 8/16/2018


Agreed! The sceptre would give me one extra persuasive, but I'm overcapped anyway, so that's not huge. Excited for my new kitty smile

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silurica
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8/16/2018
The Sceptre is definitely not that unique stat wise - at Persuasive +10 it's tied with Docks and Rubbery Man renown 40 items and beaten by profession items, while at BDR +2 it's tied with the Iron Republic Journal amongst others and beaten by the Golden Spiked Rosary (and the Knock obviously). Respectable +2 specifically is unique, I think? But Respectable isn't that hard to get afaik. So yes, nothing of value is lost mechanically if one can't afford the Sceptre.

I myself got a bunch of cats for one of my characters (and a Judgement's Egg) and am happy with that :P Have always wanted more cute short hair cats, so I have to personally thank FBG for this one.

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Aardvark
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8/16/2018
Well, I'll wait for a couple days to make sure there were no mistakes and there won't be any chance to scrounge a coin or two more out of it and then go for the Egg.

The Scepter is one hell of a mantlepiece, but from gameplay perspective, not being able to grind Feducci's Lance on top of all the upgraded companions (which I managed none-too-comfortably) stung more.

Anyways, this has been a great excercise in lore-delving, and I hope everyone enjoyed it as much as I had.

EDIT:
TheThirdPolice wrote:
Hold up a second. The official answer to the 'Doors of the Bazaar' included Iron. I said Steel and I am nearly certain I was marked wrong for it. So what about this passage from the game?

> You set off for the Bazaar, bowed under the weight of the tremendous robe. [...] The Steel Door swings open to reveal a black-cushioned lift.



Hah, would you look at that! I was pretty sure I had seen Steel somewhere. Maybe there is a chance of revision of some of the answers, after all?

Guess we'll have to wait and see if there is any reaction from the FBG team. smile
edited by Aardvark on 8/16/2018

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Israfel
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8/16/2018
TheFungalOne wrote:
Just one coin short of affording the sceptre ;_; Which is more useful/valuable: a Judgement’s Egg or a fragment of the Tragedy Procedures?



In the same boat as you, 14.

Neither has a use, other than being Fate-locked 62.5e items. Pretty much decorative in nature unless you want to sell them.

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Dudebro Pyro
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8/16/2018
Damn, by my count I definitely got 4 wrong (if I remember my answers correctly - one I may have answered right but I'll assume I didn't), but I only got 13 coins - the rest seem to have just been interpreted very strictly.

Then there's also things like "cats a guardians of What Is and snakes Are Not" - it's debatable whether "they're fighting the War of Illusions" (my answer, and I'm probably not alone) is valid or not, as the two facts are very related and might both be considered valid reasons for enmity (provided I didn't completely misunderstand the War in the first place). I realise that this one might be a stretch - but I can only guess where the other 2-3 points were docked, because I genuinely can't see anything else actually got wrong.

EDIT: By the way, do the Tragedy Procedures give an actual snippet of lore this time, unlike Lamentation Lock?
edited by Dudebro Pyro on 8/16/2018

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Kaijyuu
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8/16/2018
So to confirm: The only unique stuff, not obtainable elsewhere with fate or otherwise, are the cat and the sceptre, right?

As a collector I value unique items above money, so I don't want to miss out on that cat if the 10 coin items aren't special. (I got 10 coins myself)

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DonaghyLogan
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8/16/2018
Kaijyuu wrote:
So to confirm: The only unique stuff, not obtainable elsewhere with fate or otherwise, are the cat and the sceptre, right?

As a collector I value unique items above money, so I don't want to miss out on that cat if the 10 coin items aren't special. (I got 10 coins myself)



Yes, you're correct :0)

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Diptych
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8/16/2018
Optimatum wrote:
There was a theory that Aldwych was the name of the area pre-fall, even though it wasn't the name of a specific street. I never saw a source for that, but maybe that's the answer?


Yeah, that was my guess. Drury Lane used to be called "Via de Aldwych", and the whole area between St Giles and where Drury Lane meets the Strand was known as "Aldwych Field". Wych Street was quite short and insignificant compared to its neighbours, but it was part of a much larger neighbourhood that's had the name "Aldwych" attached to it for centuries.
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Mikarissa
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8/16/2018
Catherine Raymond wrote:
I'm just grateful I got 9 Coins; so many of my answers were offbase, and I really wonder about the clues to some of them. The Great Game is played for the "secret currencies in the Bazaar's vaults"? Really?

Curiously enough, someone in the discussion thread actually did suggest the vaults as an answer, based on this snippet: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Fortune%27s_page . Most players though (including me, alas) thought it was something more abstract.
Not certain where the "secret currencies" came from, though... Perhaps we were supposed to extrapolate based on this snippet and on the Destiny incerteza quoted above?
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Mikarissa
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8/16/2018
Tintinnabulum wrote:
incerteza wrote:
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.
Pedestrian? These coins apparently "underpin the laws of the universe". (I wonder how the Bazaar got them, though.)

Where's that echo from? It's quite... dramatic. Somewhere Fate-locked, or an Ambition?

One of the Destinies, I believe.
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Optimatum
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8/17/2018
Vexpont wrote:
And the 'nasty, organic' shape of the STK and the fact it's made of some mysterious dark substance ('What's this carved from? Flowstone? Dark bone? Grey amber?' is its mouseover description) makes me wonder just where the material to make it came from. If it was from Mt. Nomad, which is just my supposition, I guess that's a rather tenuous link to the Elder Continent.



Flowstone tends to be associated with things from the Third City, iirc.

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Skinnyman
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8/17/2018
This really looks lovely! Just back from Winking to check my coins... and... 14! upset

Congratulations on those who got 15+!
DonaghyLogan wrote:
Argh - I have exactly fifteen coins, and I know what I SHOULD do with them . . . .

But I think I'm gonna adopt fifteen cats instead.
But specially to DonaghyLogan!

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8/17/2018
It's a shame that the Answers tab is now gone (at least from what I can see) rather than one's entries simply becoming uneditable. I've practically forgotten my replies for some of the more uncertain ones. Perhaps Failbetter will list names with the ones they found particularly interesting so I can see if mine caused any particular amusement? Then again I can't recall if I'd rather any of my answers be internet memory-holed forever...
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Optimatum
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8/17/2018
Ixc wrote:
So, my theory is that the Stone Tentacle Key can restore the King with a Hundred Hearts, or free him from the influence of the Fingerkings. Thus, they had the Detective take it and throw it down the well. The Devils want it for further control over or rewards from the Fingerkings.



There's definitely no way to heal the Hundreds of his condition. He's an entire city because he has a chunk of Stone for a heart, and removing that would almost certainly kill him. He's thousands of years old by now, on top of his original medical issues.

As for Fingerkings, is there some link between them and the Hundreds that I've forgotten? There's definitely some connection between them and Clay Men, but I can't think of any evidence the Fingerkings have any influence over their maker.

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8/17/2018
Optimatum wrote:

As for Fingerkings, is there some link between them and the Hundreds that I've forgotten? There's definitely some connection between them and Clay Men, but I can't think of any evidence the Fingerkings have any influence over their maker.

Supposedly the Unfinished are caused by the Hundreds having a nightmare. That may involve the Fingerkings, but I wouldn't immediately jump to that conclusion. It seems Parabola changed significantly around the time of the Second City.

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Mr Auburn
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8/17/2018
It may be a silly question, but is there a way to actually see your answers? I may have... forgotten some of them.

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ArtificerProdigy
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8/17/2018
Ixc wrote:
The Detective likely threw the key in the well because of her deal with the Fingerkings. They helped her with a case, and she was supposed to deliver a mirror. I don’t know if the key serves as a mirror, however it clearly has value. In Ambition: Nemesis, the key holds great value to the devils manning a prison; In Heart’s Desire, the Manager speaks of being tempted by the key, which has some use to him. In all cases, the interested parties have a connection to Parabola and Polythreme. And in this case, the Manager wants his beloved back. So, my theory is that the Stone Tentacle Key can restore the King with a Hundred Hearts, or free him from the influence of the Fingerkings. Thus, they had the Detective take it and throw it down the well. The Devils want it for further control over or rewards from the Fingerkings.

[spoiler]

“The Stereoscopics just showed up one day,&quot he observes, apropos of nothing. &quotThey say they helped her once, when she was about to lose a case. She could never bear to lose. They want her help; a flawless mirror delivered somewhere.&quot

Detailed notes on her own allies: the Stereoscopists. Information on their personal histories, interest, vulnerabilities, and crucially, their dreams, has all been ruthlessly indexed... A single page is scrawled with notes on old cases involving mediums and mirrors. A heading reads: 'Re-open. Look again.'

“[The devil] clearly bored, intoned a list of circumstances under which I could visit Scathewick. &quotholding a piece of his liver no less than two ounces in weight. Having proof of an aunt's demise. Holding a soul V.S.A.H. or better in grade. That key in your pocket.&quot'

'I slammed down the key on the counter, chipping off part of a tine. The clerk didn't seem to mind.

“Yes. You've been away a long time, haven't you? A hundred hands and a thousand eyes. And do I smell well water? No matter. I shall have to give you away again. I cannot be trusted with you. Not yet. That would be a weight greater than mountains.&quot The Manager solemnly places the key in his shirt pocket, next to his heart.

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That is incredibly obscure, and very interesting. Definitely never would have guessed it. Alas, I like collecting critters, but I am at exactly 15, so I'll be have to be satisfied with shiny new toy.

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lukeskylicker
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8/17/2018
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
I am shocked and a little disappointed that the Great Game has such a *pedestrian* goal, to be honest.


Rare indeed is the nation that deploys politics and spy craft for aught but power and wealth.


Sure, but it seems a bit simplistic that they're ALL going for the coins. I always sort of assumed that the Great Game was the gestalt of all spycraft and espionage.

I mean, my grand theory (based on Salt's Song in Sunless Sea) was that the Great Game is a front for a cold war between the Judgements. But that's probably torpedoed at this point.
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  • I honestly expected the answer to be Europe (that is to say, what nation will be the dominant power). There have been more than a few examples of the power struggles in Europe being refered to as such and many of those examples have very deep roots in espionage and spycraft.

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    shylarah
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    8/17/2018
    the game answer seems kinda obvious once you see those echoes from the nadir. Shame I've not been yet.

    what's this about fingerkings and clay men?! I need to know more.

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    PSGarak
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    8/17/2018
    incerteza wrote:
    PSGarak wrote:
    It seems Parabola changed significantly around the time of the Second City.
    Could you please elaborate? I know it was called "a wounded realm" even before the Third City, but I have no other clues.

    My reference is the Exceptional Story "The Attendants," from August 2017. If you haven't played the story, you can dig through the discussion thread.

    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24837-augusts-exceptional-story-the-attendants.aspx

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    8/16/2018
    Vexpont wrote:
    FL Sidebar text wrote:

    A Stone Tentacle-Key

    No one in London knows where this key is. Or at least, no one who knows is telling. And anyway, this doesn't stop them talking. They say that the one man who knew where it was just vanished one night, along with his boat. They say he was probably eaten by a zee-monster. They say that pirates might have scuppered him out of spite. Some of them say he had already hidden the key before he died. One or two of them say that he sold it to a mad king in Polythreme who gave it to his youngest daughter for safekeeping before being eaten by a Stone Pig. It's probably safe to discount those ones.

    Now THIS is interesting. Of course this could be a red herring, but now I want to run with this on the idea that it might really be the truth.
    [spoiler]Would the Mad King be the King with a Hundred Hearts? In that case, how would he have had children? Perhaps from a love before the current one? I doubt that a little. Perhaps there is another Mad King... The one in charge of Jack's workshop, perhaps? But isn't that also just a clay man? What if it was perhaps referring to the Royal Beth manager? That'd pose the same issue with the King with a Hundred Hearts having children, though. So maybe this really is just a red herring.[/spoiler]

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    Optimatum
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    8/16/2018
    There was a theory that Aldwych was the name of the area pre-fall, even though it wasn't the name of a specific street. I never saw a source for that, but maybe that's the answer?

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    NNNnobody
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    8/16/2018
    I got twelve coins. Seems I was somewhat lucky, considering that I gave three or four joke-answers.

    Anyway, I think I'll take the cat, a queer soul and the Fragment of Tragedy Procedures. If I want to have a Judgement Egg, I get one in Sunless Sea wink.

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    dov
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    8/16/2018
    Azothi wrote:
    Sceptre is +10 Persuasive, +3 Dangerous, and +2 Respectable. I have it equipped for now.

    Thanks.

    FYI - the Sceptre is best in slot for Respectable


    Does anyone have the short-hair equipped so we can update the wiki with its description/image/stats?

    (Unfortunately I have exactly 15 so I can't claim the two unique rewards...)

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    Rylan Singh
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    8/16/2018
    Kylestien wrote:
    Damm. 3 more coins and I would have the Scepter.

    Guess I will have to settle for this Judgement's Egg with no use.


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    Socotra
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    8/16/2018
    I don't want to make life difficult, but I got 13 coins, and I'm nearly positive I got 15 correct answers.

    Edit: Actually, if Wych Street is incorrect, I guess I only got 14 upset
    Edit2: Aaand my answer about cats & snakes was rather rambly - I still feel like it got the essence, but I can see why it would be marked wrong. As a bit of a completionist, just a bit sad about the sceptre.
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    TheFungalOne
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    8/16/2018
    Just one coin short of affording the sceptre ;_; Which is more useful/valuable: a Judgement’s Egg or a fragment of the Tragedy Procedures?

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    Tsar Koschei
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    8/16/2018
    Azothi wrote:
    Sceptre is +10 Persuasive, +3 Dangerous, and +2 Respectable. I have it equipped for now.

    Congratulations, that's rather nice indeed. I wonder if it comes with any opportunity cards or other special features.

    Does anyone care to share the short-hair's stats?
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    Arcengal
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    8/16/2018
    I didn't have much hope being new to the community, but I'll pride myself with a new kitty companion.

    Very jelly of anyone who manages to get that Scepter though, it sounds like a nice bit of loot.

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    Kylestien
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    8/16/2018
    Damm. 3 more coins and I would have the Scepter.

    Guess I will have to settle for this Judgement's Egg with no use.

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    Honeyaddict
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    8/16/2018
    I do wonder about the stats of the Scepter, as I only have 11 correct answers.
    This was an amazing Mysteries contest!

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    8/23/2018
    Ah, sure. This is still an amazing game, and its mostly free.
    I am just assuming the team uses the forums to get feedback they might use if they are so inclined - or so I tell myself when I need to get grumpy about soemething I did not like!

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    Kaijyuu
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    8/19/2018
    Kukapetal wrote:
    it's always nice to get doubles of rare companions in case they turn out to be upgradable someday.

    This is a good point and now I'm sad I didn't grab two.

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    silurica
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    8/18/2018
    Jamilah S. G. Wolf wrote:
    Also. Would one recommend obtaining Judgements Egg or the Fragment?

    Just pick which one you/your character likes more, they have the same value at the Bazaar.

    That said, while both are Fate-locked normally, I believe the Judgement's Egg is rarer since its only known sources are Flint and the Empress' Shadow. So if you're a completionist you might want to take that into account.
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    8/18/2018
    Judgements egg can actually fairly easily be obtained through a certain fate locked expedition I believe.

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    Trilby
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    8/18/2018
    8 Coins.
    I forgot to fill in most of the mysterys and I am salty as hell.
    Does anyone think failbetter will make the septer available publicly or fate locked at a later date?

    Also does anyone know where I might be able to find some queer souls?
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    9/24/2018
    I was playing Sunless Sea recently and was reminded that in the Tireless Mechanic's storyline, you learn that the Writhing River, one of the tributaries of dream, flows underneath Hunter's Keep. The Mechanic even says "I hope it doesn't touch the well those poor girls drink from," implying there may be a connection. Though it certainly doesn't shed much light on the matter of the key, it might support the idea that the Fingerkings are involved.

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    Televangelist
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    9/27/2018
    Just an interesting reminder that the most Fingerkings-linked items in the game is also described as a 'key', even though it's not literally in the shape of a key: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Oneiric_Key
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    Optimatum
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    8/28/2018
    Looks like the blog post was updated to clarify what answers were accepted.

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    Syril Dawntreader
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    8/20/2018
    Augh. One coin short of scepter. I could have stopped using that blasted drum.

    Edit 1: Remembered my number wrong. Actually got twelve. Somehow I'm significantly less disappointed now.
    edited by Syril Dawntreader on 8/22/2018

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    8/20/2018
    I also ended up getting 14 coins both on myself and on The Luminous Orphan. I'm surprised by the latter given I gave mostly amusing answers for her since alt, so I'd be interested to know which ones I got right and wrong as a result. Absolutely kicking myself about that last coin though, since I recently changed Mr Hearts/Apples to the Wings-of-Thunder Bat just to be safe, as one of the more recent Exceptional Stories suggested those WEREN'T Curators, let alone the Masters.

    Also have no idea how well Vazio did, no access to the coins up North, heh.

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