Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
8/23/2018
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Ah, sure. This is still an amazing game, and its mostly free.
I am just assuming the team uses the forums to get feedback they might use if they are so inclined - or so I tell myself when I need to get grumpy about soemething I did not like!
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
8/23/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
Much agreed. The Scepter is a great high-tier reward - but then below it suddenly there's nothing until you get to the "participation prize" tier; and grabbing a Master's own sceptre is rather astonishingly lore-devoid: you just... grab it, fork over the coins, and get sent on your way.
One thing to keep in mind is that there's no good way to add other special rewards without causing other problems. Imagine if there was a third item that cost ten coins. It would satisfy people who were short of getting the Sceptre, but anyone with 16 coins would be justifiably upset having to choose. The sum of the unique items' costs can't be more than the maximum coins earned.
And sure, they could have one five-cost and one ten-cost item instead, but that risks other issues. I'm sure many people with 16 would be disappointed to get nothing unique to their achievement.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 757
8/24/2018
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That's fair. One way to fix that would be to have the rewards be cumulative (i.e. instead of directly cashing in, you choose a "tier" and get everything from the lower tiers as well) but that obviously makes much less sense from a narrative perspective.
Maybe I'm just salty because I know I had more right answers than coins, so I feel like I might have gotten "cheated out" of the sceptre by the extremely strict marking. By my count I have 15 right answers without even stretching the definition of "right" or the interpretation of questions, and yet I'm stuck with the cat. Maybe if I had gotten enough answers just plain wrong, I wouldn't care as much. But eh, what's done is done, FB is obviously not going to change anything at this point so I might as well stop complaining and enjoy what I got.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
8/28/2018
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Looks like the blog post was updated to clarify what answers were accepted.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
8/28/2018
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Huh. Well, if "Wych Street" was accepted as correct, then I don't know why I didn't get 16 coins instead of 15. I suppose it'll remain a mystery.
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genesis
Posts: 924
8/28/2018
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I am almost sure that my "Mr Hearts" was marked wrong because I said something along the lines of "Mr Hearts/Wings of Thunder Bat", meaning to suggest that Mr Hearts was pretending to be the bat. But according to the revised blog if a part of the answer was "incorrect" the whole answer was marked incorrect.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 757
8/29/2018
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Right, cool! Now I'm definitely completely confused about at least three coins. Like, I have no earthly clue what could have possibly bumped me down from 16 to 13.
Actually, on the other hand, with the comment about any incorrect part invalidating an answer I'm now reasonably certain my "Mr. Hearts disguised as a Wings of Thunder Bat" was rejected by an automatic Bat filter, despite explicitly mentioning the disguise and thus not containing any incorrect statements at all.
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shylarah
Posts: 171
8/30/2018
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I too implied that Mr. Hearts was the wings-of-thunder bat (Mr. Hearts, the sexiest wings-of-thunder bat in the neath! was, I believe, my verbatim answer). To be precise, I didn't know that he's not actually a wings of thunder bat...but I knew it was specifically him and had figured the rest was just a description, as I don't know what a wings-of-thunder bat would normally be (does anyone?) It was meant to be lighthearted, and now I think it cost me a coin. Not that I could get much with it. I also think a few of my other correct answers were read wrong, but I don't know for sure. I have to dig up the paper I was using to know what the heck I put.
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Amalgamate
Posts: 435
9/1/2018
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Yeah, now the blog post clarifies "If you put more than one answer to a single question, and any of the answers given were incorrect, the question was marked wrong."
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phryne
Posts: 1351
9/23/2018
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Some time has passed now, has anyone yet remembered/discovered even the smallest clue anywhere in the game about the Detective hiding the key in the well?
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annalibertas
Posts: 161
9/24/2018
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phryne wrote:
Some time has passed now, has anyone yet remembered/discovered even the smallest clue anywhere in the game about the Detective hiding the key in the well?
Not that I've seen. I'm curious about that one as well
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Ixc
Posts: 365
9/24/2018
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annalibertas wrote:
phryne wrote:
Some time has passed now, has anyone yet remembered/discovered even the smallest clue anywhere in the game about the Detective hiding the key in the well?
Not that I've seen. I'm curious about that one as well
I posted my theory on the 4th page, but here it is.
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The Detective likely threw the key in the well because of her deal with the Fingerkings. They helped her with a case, and she was supposed to deliver a mirror. I don’t know if the key serves as a mirror, however it clearly has value. In Ambition: Nemesis, the key holds great value to the devils manning a prison; In Heart’s Desire, the Manager speaks of being tempted by the key, which has some use to him. In all cases, the interested parties have a connection to Parabola and Polythreme. And in this case, the Manager wants his beloved back. So, my theory is that the Stone Tentacle Key can restore the King with a Hundred Hearts, or free him from the influence of the Fingerkings. Thus, they had the Detective take it and throw it down the well. The Devils want it for further control over or rewards from the Fingerkings.
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“The Stereoscopics just showed up one day,” he observes, apropos of nothing. ”They say they helped her once, when she was about to lose a case. She could never bear to lose. They want her help; a flawless mirror delivered somewhere.”
Detailed notes on her own allies: the Stereoscopists. Information on their personal histories, interest, vulnerabilities, and crucially, their dreams, has all been ruthlessly indexed... A single page is scrawled with notes on old cases involving mediums and mirrors. A heading reads: 'Re-open. Look again.'
“[The devil] clearly bored, intoned a list of circumstances under which I could visit Scathewick. “holding a piece of his liver no less than two ounces in weight. Having proof of an aunt's demise. Holding a soul V.S.A.H. or better in grade. That key in your pocket.”
'I slammed down the key on the counter, chipping off part of a tine. The clerk didn't seem to mind.
“Yes. You've been away a long time, haven't you? A hundred hands and a thousand eyes. And do I smell well water? No matter. I shall have to give you away again. I cannot be trusted with you. Not yet. That would be a weight greater than mountains.&quot The Manager solemnly places the key in his shirt pocket, next to his heart.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
9/24/2018
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There's also the side snippet about a man giving the key to his youngest daughter for safekeeping. So if there's any hint or clue that the Implacable Detective is the youngest daughter of some Presbyterate VIP (Thief-of-Faces?), I guess that would count? I imagine that there might not be any direct clues, but rather a few indirect ones, requiring a string of educated guesses to have had a chance at guessing the correct answer.
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Ambystoma Maculatum
Posts: 19
9/24/2018
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I was playing Sunless Sea recently and was reminded that in the Tireless Mechanic's storyline, you learn that the Writhing River, one of the tributaries of dream, flows underneath Hunter's Keep. The Mechanic even says "I hope it doesn't touch the well those poor girls drink from," implying there may be a connection. Though it certainly doesn't shed much light on the matter of the key, it might support the idea that the Fingerkings are involved.
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Televangelist
Posts: 109
9/27/2018
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Just an interesting reminder that the most Fingerkings-linked items in the game is also described as a 'key', even though it's not literally in the shape of a key: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Oneiric_Key
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