asinineFlatfoot
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7/25/2018
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No prizes for guessing what I want them for. I doubt I'll make a habit of doing this, but I want to at least try it once, just to see. It's worth it for the flavour.
So, where can I get Mourning Candles by the hundred? I need 530 more (I have 9 already). A repeatable action that yields even just 1 would be marvelous. Failing that, lesser Luminosity items will suffice. I just don't want to resort to buying my way there, from Beeswax to Beetles to Memories. Buying the required wax to convert would cost me 2,430 Echoes, if I've done my math correctly.
I really don't want to miss the text for this action. I've already lost my chance to see the one for the Scholar of the Correspondence; I'm not missing another one, if I can help it.
Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: It occurs to me that 539 Mourning Candles Could be sold for 1,347.50 Echoes. So if I'm serious about this, I'm throwing away that much money for this.
I stand by what I've said. It's worth it.
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
7/25/2018
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Affair of the box carousel is your best bet. You get 8 every loop.
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Optimatum
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7/25/2018
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Keep in mind that grinding lower-tier items would require Revolutionary Favours to upconvert them. Also, with the correct choices, the AotB carousel nets you six Correspondence Plaques on top of the candles.
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Azothi
Posts: 586
7/25/2018
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asinineFlatfoot wrote:
I really don't want to miss the text for this action. I've already lost my chance to see the one for the Scholar of the Correspondence; I'm not missing another one, if I can help it. This isn't a suggestion, per se, and it's unrelated to Mourning Candles, but you haven't technically lost your chance to see the one for perverting your studies in-game. You can always end your search for the Name, reach Scholar of the Correspondence 9, then use Marsh-Mired for the next two weeks, and then only sacrifice 462 Mourning Candles to light fires around the city.
It would mean sacrificing 4(?) weeks of progress already, though, and it will definitely delay your search by more than that to reach the appropriate SotC level and gather the Mourning Candles. This is an adventure of masochism, though, so it's worth mentioning.
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asinineFlatfoot
Posts: 85
7/25/2018
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Optimatum wrote:
Keep in mind that grinding lower-tier items would require Revolutionary Favours to upconvert them. Also, with the correct choices, the AotB carousel nets you six Correspondence Plaques on top of the candles.
Uh.... hmm...... yes, that's correct.... At a rate of 50 for 10, that means I would need.... 265 favours. Oh dear.... I have a few favours, but not quite that many.... I don't know that anyone in all the world has that many. (EDIT: Only 53 favours for 530 Candles. So that's potentially doable, maybe.)
But I'm not so interested in the Plaques, really. They are valuable, but by the time this carousel is open for me to play with, they'll be drops in the bucket.
edited by asinineFlatfoot on 7/26/2018
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Kitty Rambunctious
Posts: 38
7/25/2018
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If you have Renown: Tomb-colonists 4, then there's a card you can draw if you are in disgraced exile in the tomb-colonies called "Unorthodox Technologies" that gives you one candle if you accept the gift. If you're involved in the soul trade, you can get them as a gift from the Capering Relicker at Someone Is Coming 4. A Glassman will get 3 per week in their payment. Unfortunately, the best way to get Mourning Candles was to trade in your Reputation during the election, which is what I did. Probably your best bet is to gun for Memories of Light. You get 30 for using the Implacable Detective's business card to look for the Deranged Medium. DREAM OF SPOTTED SHADOWS in the Honey-dens of Veilgarden only gives one, but you can do it over and over pretty easily, although the honey costs get a bit high after a while. You can also trade 50 Compromising Documents for 51 Memories of Light, so if you have extras of those lying around, it's worth a go. The wiki is a pretty good resource for this kind of thing, so feel free to have a look. http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Echo_Bazaar_Wiki
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
7/26/2018
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Giving up the search does remove all current progress, but last I heard it doesn't prevent you from starting again. It only prevents starting via someone betraying you.
Also, always glad to see a fellow explorer of unoptimal choices. Your dedication to going above and beyond the required sacrifices is admirable. I wonder what path you'll choose for Cerise...
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Vega
Posts: 150
8/6/2018
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For what it's worth, I'm grinding 924(!!!) Mourning Candles to set fire to the city -- my last chance before the challenge outstrips my Watchful ability (and the odds are still a bit too dicey for comfort, I unfortunately vacillated too much on this decision). Affair of the Box carousel, getting a Revolutionaries Connected pet, and burning opportunity cards for Favours has been working well so far. ~2 weeks of grinding and 700 candles down... getting there... Now what I would love is a Rare Mood card to pop up...
Good luck with the resource grind. The Searing Enigma option is well beyond my reach, so I salute you for pursuing that one.
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Passionario
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7/26/2018
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asinineFlatfoot wrote:
EDIT: Is there a way to remove [spoiler]this Weeping Scar?[/spoiler] It didn't go away when I used A Bad End, and I know that having it stops that card at 7 Seeking from showing up. I was hoping to explore the other option.
There is a way. It is neither cheap nor painless. But you are accustomed to high prices by now, aren't you?
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Azothi
Posts: 586
7/31/2018
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The Fidgeting Writer storyline, accessed through your Tales of Terror in your inventory, is another difficult (governed by RNG) way to gain Searing Enigmas if you trade-in for rewards at the penultimate choice (Lens of Black Glass), which gives one Searing Enigma in addition to other items (one of which is a Bazaar Permit, which you will also need for Seeking).
You might need to hold on to your Trade Secrets to make a Classic Short Story, which is one of the things you can choose to sacrifice for Cerise. It'll likely be faster than the other non-Fate options.
When Neathmas comes around, the Rat of Glory will likely be given out on December 7, which can be exchanged for 1 to 6 Searing Enigmas.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 757
8/1/2018
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Just last week I sold off 290 Enigmas. That took a bit of grinding to get to, but if you just need 56, that costs under 3000 echoes, and the grind is profitable even before that approaching 1.9-2EPA very quickly (with like a few hundred echoes of investment). The only downside is that you need to actually gain the access to the Court of the Wakeful Eye, so that's a bunch of storyline content to go through, but it's undeniably far and away the most efficient source of Enigmas if you want loads of them (for reference, most other sources have negative EPA, meaning you lose money on every action on the path to an Engima, and those that aren't as bad still have abysmal EPA making them unsuitable for grinding anything other than the Enigmas themselves - meanwhile, the Court is THE most profitable grind in the game by a wide margin).
Edit: for completeness, the other items that can now be grinded more profitably than anything else in the game are Night-Wispers, Favours in High Places, and Primeval Hints. You get one "free" choice with the 80 initial tribute needed to get to the Court in the first place, after that each new Minister (each one corresponding to one of the rewards) costs 240 Tribute (or 622 echoes in Orphans exactly, 648 if rounding to the next whole orphan).
Overall the Court is fantastic not only for its unmatched EPA, but also making some historically hard to get, very unprofitable, yet quite useful items into the most efficiently grindable ones in the game. Though most of this, other than the Enigmas, probably won't matter to a Seeker - perhaps the FihP if one goes through the trouble of setting up a salon in order to help get the N12 candle.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
8/2/2018
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Besides just getting as many lodgings as possible, you can also acquire Urchins favours. There's a Flit card where you can trade in three favours for 25 Scraps and a Bundle of Oddities.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
8/3/2018
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Or just grind them at the Court for ~2.2 EPA; about 28-29 AP for one Enigma if one has enough Orphans to start with!
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asinineFlatfoot
Posts: 85
8/5/2018
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Arcengal wrote:
asinineFlatfoot wrote:
I really don't want to miss the text for this action. I've already lost my chance to see the one for the Scholar of the Correspondence; I'm not missing another one, if I can help it.
Has someone given you the text for Pervert Your Studies already? I'm currently grinding SotC to see it myself, could send you on a copy if you want.
You're kind to offer, but I've decided to try and get that for myself. I've restarted the Seeking quest so I can get the Mourning Candle one more easily. This also allows me to have another shot at getting the Scholar one. It won't be easy, but Scholar 9 is a trifle compared to the time I'll spend getting Mourning Candles and Searing Enigmas.
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Siegron
Posts: 65
7/25/2018
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Also one of the ways, if you're really looking for as many possible source for them, is the Capering Relicker who will gift you some if you have the A Trade in Souls completed! 4 per visit! It is slow, but hey...it's still something in the long run, delicious friend!
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Ixc
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7/25/2018
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You could use the Correspondence plaques, once you have fifty of them, to side convert to Memories of Light and upconvert from there, to help supplement your grind.
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asinineFlatfoot
Posts: 85
7/26/2018
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Azothi wrote:
This isn't a suggestion, per se, and it's unrelated to Mourning Candles, but you haven't technically lost your chance to see the one for perverting your studies in-game. You can always end your search for the Name, reach Scholar of the Correspondence 9, then use Marsh-Mired for the next two weeks, and then only sacrifice 462 Mourning Candles to light fires around the city.
Will that work? Will I be able to return to my search if I use A Bad End to "give it up" temporarily? This is very important. My entire reason for being in the Neath at all is this search. I'll not give it up permanently, for any reason.
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