 asinineFlatfoot Posts: 85
7/22/2018
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I remember once hearing someone say this plant will one day be a good source of income if I help it grow large enough, but I've done a bit of research, and it seems that the main use of it is that it eventually produces [spoiler]counterfeit heads of John the Baptist[/spoiler] which are useful in Knife and Candle, but not much help otherwise. I've never played K&C, and I don't see it becoming a large part of my routine in the near future.
So is this worth the trouble? Or should I sell the plant at my earliest convenience? (I've seen the rewards for selling it at the different stages; none of them seemed very interesting, except as things to sell.)
-- [spoiler](This is an RP account for The Asinine Flatfoot, an insane detective bent on self-destruction in pursuit of something terrible. If you hear me say something that sounds dreary, depressed, or suicidal, please do not worry about me; it's all part of the character. I am in good health.)[/spoiler]
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
7/23/2018
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As Siegron notes, the plant does allow participation in the Tournament of Lilies. The prize isn't worth much though so it's not worth doing more than once. If you do choose to sell your plant, you'll start getting cards to obtain a new one. Keep in mind that the only way to remove all plant-related cards from your deck is to raise your plant to the maximum level of 19.
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 0bsidian Fire Posts: 117
7/24/2018
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I ended up keeping it once I realized I could get Phosphorescent Scarabs from it. Which can be hard to get when you're avoiding Advancing the Liberation of Night...
-- Kharagal Mierqid - Bohemian Correspondent who is obsessed with the Language of Stars...
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 Jason5237 Posts: 298
7/23/2018
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If you're focused on income and highest EPAs, the plant will not likely be for you. If you're interested in seeing all storylets and options, than you might want to play it. I remember cards being ubiquitous, so they will take up a large percentage of your opportunity deck. But the rewards vary over time and the text is fun as the plant grows. Once you get to level 19 the cards stop, as indicated.
J-
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 Amalgamate Posts: 435
7/23/2018
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I'm not sure who said the plant is a good source of income; whoever it was was wrong, it's a long slow process to grow it and you don't really get much out of it by echo value. If you sell it I don't think you recoup the value of all the items and time that went into growing it.
Getting it to high level is the only way to get a Cryptobotanical Rosette (an item with no use other than bragging rights/completionism). I don't know if there are other ways of getting the Counterfeit Head of St John the Baptist; there may be.
I personally didn't play in the tournament until I maxed out my plant level at 19; I heard that you do a little better at high levels, and the last few levels of growth for it have cards that can grow it with no cost, so when you lose battles and have to heal a few CP of the plant it only costs cards.
The only way to stop getting cards about it is to get it to level 19, so if you're in this game for the long haul you might as well play the plant-growth cards as you get them and eventually (after a long, long time) you'll stop getting them. (Selling your plant just puts you back to level 0, you'll keep getting the card to restart your plant.) edited by Amalgamate on 7/23/2018
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 Jolanda Swan Posts: 1789
7/31/2018
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Uh... what if we don't find a way for carnivorous plants to go around eating people? Just a thought.
-- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
7/31/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
Uh... what if we don't find a way for carnivorous plants to go around eating people? Just a thought.
You're completely right. Time to petition our local Borough Council! We can't let plants keep eating people—there's never enough left for us! Irresponsible gardeners are causing a food shortage, I'm always feeling Peckish these days...
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Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
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 Azothi Posts: 586
7/31/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
Uh... what if we don't find a way for carnivorous plants to go around eating people? Just a thought. While I strongly oppose capital punishment, death by St. John's lily is likely the most effective form of permanent execution available to us. The details of the crime could be revealed, and if evidence to the contrary is found by the plant, then proper recompense can be given to the families and friends of the unjustly deceased.
-- Azoth I, the Emissary of Cardinals - A Paramount Presence (not currently accepting new Proteges) Away to where the Chain cannot bind us.
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 Jolanda Swan Posts: 1789
7/31/2018
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... Where did I put my trusty flamethrower?
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
7/29/2018
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It is related to, but not a part of, SMEN.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
7/30/2018
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asinineFlatfoot wrote:
I remember once hearing someone say this plant will one day be a good source of income if I help it grow large enough, but I've done a bit of research, and it seems that the main use of it is that it eventually produces [spoiler]counterfeit heads of John the Baptist[/spoiler] which are useful in Knife and Candle, but not much help otherwise. I've never played K&C, and I don't see it becoming a large part of my routine in the near future.
So is this worth the trouble? Or should I sell the plant at my earliest convenience? (I've seen the rewards for selling it at the different stages; none of them seemed very interesting, except as things to sell.) Every time you win, you get more than a Cryptobotanical Rosette. You can choose to get either a Personal Recommendation and 2 Extraordinary Implications (total value 11 Echoes at the Bazaar) or a Book of Hidden Bodies and 2 London Street signs (total value 11 Echoes at the Bazaar). http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/A_Cryptobotanical_Champion!
Whether these rewards are "worth the trouble" depends on what your game objectives are and how many actions and how much time you are willing to spend to fulfill them. I would not make the Plant your sole source of any of those resources, but Personal Recommendations are expensive to make in the Bazaar SideStreets, and an additional source of them might be useful to you.
On the other hand, not so many players play the Tournament of Lilies any more. edited by cathyr19355 on 7/30/2018
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Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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