Diptych
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7/17/2018
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Here's this week's thread for quick questions!
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
7/17/2018
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Yeah, you can get readmitted to the university, as that's mostly watchful challenges.
There isn't enough content in the game to get to 200 in every stat without grinding. Watchful is actually one of the better ones; most run out of content around 130 or so. Just keep playing the game, doing random stuff that requires watchful, and you'll get there eventually.
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a Nice Friend
Posts: 127
7/19/2018
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If you've unlocked a story, it will be waiting for you. Forever. They'll kind of pile up if you have a subscription and take your time actually playing through them. (definitely not speaking from experience)
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
7/19/2018
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How do you guys do that? HOW?
I am always too fond of the lore; it is hard waiting for a few hours.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
7/19/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
How do you guys do that? HOW?
I am always too fond of the lore; it is hard waiting for a few hours.
I'm not sure. It is something that afflicts me in general life, not just FL. I always put things off until an imaginary "more convenient time" when I can really savour and appreciate them, and then never get around to it. It is the same reason I have umpteen DVDs and a season and a half of Westworld still to watch. 
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Deathjack999
Posts: 140
7/19/2018
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lady ciel wrote:
Yes, once you area POSI, but you do still need to keep turning cards and hope that the RNG gives you what you want.
You should also try to buy the Lair in the Marshes for the Heron Tower card. If you have Death By Water you canuse the Pajamas and Peril option to get 1 Favour.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
7/20/2018
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I think it doesn't actually reset until you go to organise your notes or something, but I may be wrong - I can go research any of the islands right now without doing anything beforehand to embark in a particular way, but it may be different for the very first time you set out, I don't quite recall. The wiki might be helpful to check whether any qualities are modified at any point.
Azothi wrote:
What's the best way to reroll the Airs quality? I'm currently working with the Widow to restock my jade and to get the profitable conflict cards / Implausible Penance option, but is there a better way? Thanks.
I personally always go for the Tradition Developed After the Fall in Ladybones Road, which gives wine (always good to have wine, for Tears and Blood and eventually perhaps a Noman tattooo) and, more importantly, a pretty good chance at an Aeolian Scream (might be something like 10% in my experience) which saves on using Urchin favours to upconvert plaques (with said Favours being better used on scraps in the Flit if you've maxed out the renown already).
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Aniline
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7/19/2018
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Ulysses Kingfisher wrote:
I have managed to accumulate 3200 Certifiable Scraps. Is there any particular reason for me to favor one of the items that the Relickers will give me for them over the others?
If you're considering getting the Seven-Fold Knock, keep the scraps until you're done.
One of the items can be acquired relatively cheaply in the Heart's Desire Ambition and needs to be expended to proceed, which means it's possible to use it with the other three items to get London's Marrow - Treasures or reset the Ambition for Fate and keep it.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/18/2018
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Yes, once you area POSI, but you do still need to keep turning cards and hope that the RNG gives you what you want.
It is definitely good to meet all the acquaintances as soon as possible; they are all a good source of favours and open options to deal with your wounds in your lodgings.
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Deathjack999
Posts: 140
7/17/2018
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I'll be first out of the gate and ask mine...where have the BDR indicators gone?
You know, the three stat-doodads that measure your total modified BDR.
Yeah, they no longer show up when I equip stuff that would increase it like my Gang of Hoodlums...or my Blemmigan Tourist...or my Academic Gown.
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Parvorus
Posts: 42
7/21/2018
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Vega wrote:
Question. If a storylet is locked with Impossible!, is it impossible for all players because the content hasn't been released yet, or is it impossible for me because I haven't reached a level of attainment that is deliberately hidden from me?
I ask out of curiosity, because there's a particular storylet that has been Impossible! since I went on hiatus 5 years ago, and I have difficulty believing that FBG hasn't implemented that content all along.
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Second question, to do with social action etiquette. I (the player) have a main and an alt, listed in my sig, and many forumers list their alts in their sigs too. What is the etiquette about making Acquaintances with multiple alts? ie. Is it alright for my two alts to make acquaintance with another single character? What about my two alts making acquaintance with each of another player's alts?
I know it's a bit much of a muchness (it's all about the character in play, who cares that they're all alts of a single RL person) but I was wondering if there was an etiquette behind this. It currently feels a bit weird making Acquaintance to one character with all my alts (almost like I'm spamming them), but I'm sure this feeling will pass... 
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That means the content is as-of-yet unreleased for every player. And yeah, some things have been Impossible! for a while. They'll be released when/if they're done.
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
7/22/2018
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You are all monsters. I like you.
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Greg M
Posts: 197
7/22/2018
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@Rhode:
[spoiler] Trading the knapt will not lock you out from any major parts of the story, and will gain you a temporary companion in return. I don't remember *why* the Bishop actually wanted you to steal it, but, aside from one minor option in Part II, the story will still be available. Given that you're saving a relative of the Bishop's, he's ultimately understanding. My memory is fuzzy, but there may also be a way to regain the Knapt in Part II. [/spoiler]
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Gillsing
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7/19/2018
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Ulysses Kingfisher wrote:
I have managed to accumulate 3200 Certifiable Scraps. Is there any particular reason for me to favor one of the items that the Relickers will give me for them over the others? One of the items can be had by selling the location of the Cave of the Nadir to the Great Game. But I believe that is about it, in case that would matter for you.
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Parvorus
Posts: 42
7/21/2018
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Amalgamate wrote:
Anyone know what's up with the blemmigan tourist that we got recently?
The storylet just showed up, I got the tourist, and now it's gone. Does it have to do with #loveindies ? Is it tied to some recent ES that I did? A setup for some future content?
It's a reward for the Sunless Skies Kickstarter.
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Daisy MacRae
Posts: 19
7/17/2018
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Is the Trail of Crumbs storylet that's showing everywhere a new thing, or is it part of the July exceptional story (which I've unlocked but haven't played yet)? It's unlocked by having no Blemmigan Tourists, and the wiki page for it seems new. I could swear I've heard the term Blemmigan around here, but in what context I'm not certain.
(Edit: or, maybe, I could just play it and find out. It seems unrelated. And also adorable! Somehow I missed the trail of crumbs thread below even after a quick search. I will be baking cakes if anyone needs me.)
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Wojciech
Posts: 52
7/18/2018
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lady ciel wrote:
You don't get favours fast. Most favours come from cards and as far as I know there is no other way to get Society excepting turning cards and hoping the RNG is kind. Tip for that is to use the places that don't have location specific cards - the Forgotten Quarter and The Labyrinth of Tigers. Good luck and may the RNG be kind.
Society is, actually, the easiest Favour to grind. You should obrtain as much Opportunity cards that will give you Society favours. Joining the Young Stags is one of them, if you're a POSI; obtaining the Clay Men carriage is another ("Use the opportunity to treat them well" provides a Favour). A good walk-through of the Polite Invitation card gives up to 3 Society favours (one for Jovial Contrarian at step 4, one for Rubbery Man at step 5, one for leaving and speaking with a Quite Statesman). And, of course, paying the visits to the Wry Functionary or Sardonic Singer gives Society favours.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
7/19/2018
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As long as they're unlocked, nothing can take them away other than completing them (short of FB manually editing your account or something), so you only need to be an EF on the day the story comes out and play the storylet to unlock it and then you're golden. That's why you can get three storylets with one month's EF through careful timing.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
7/19/2018
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Thanks, Dudebro. That's good to know. Whether I decide to retain my EF status or not, I think it's probably time I did something about my ESes. I have about ten of the damn things clogging up my page.
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Parvorus
Posts: 42
7/19/2018
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Ulysses Kingfisher wrote:
I have managed to accumulate 3200 Certifiable Scraps. Is there any particular reason for me to favor one of the items that the Relickers will give me for them over the others?
One of them is required for the "normal" way to upgrade one of the four-card lodgings. Though if you're planning on doing that, the Neathmas option is vastly cheaper and does not require it.
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Jason5237
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7/19/2018
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Ulysses Kingfisher - I had gained at least two Starstone Demarks from Exceptional Stories and the like after I had spent scraps to get my first one. So had I known that I probably would have saved those scraps for something else.
That said, there are various rewards for many of the stories depending on which decisions you make, so nothing's guaranteed.
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Jason5237
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7/19/2018
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P.S. I had also sold the location of the Cave of the Nadir to the Great Game, saving me a boatload of scraps for "Something Secret."
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
7/20/2018
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You can get 5 renown at plenty's Carnival, plus 7 favours.
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RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Azothi
Posts: 586
7/20/2018
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astranox wrote:
i have no renown with society thats the problem. im trying to get to the ball... Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need Renown: Society to reach the Ambassador's Ball? You need one Favour: Society in addition to the material cost. If you currently don't have any Renown, though, you can easily get this at Mrs. Plenty's Carnival, as previously noted.
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EDIT: Adding a question of my own:
What's the best way to reroll the Airs quality? I'm currently working with the Widow to restock my jade and to get the profitable conflict cards / Implausible Penance option, but is there a better way? Thanks.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/20/2018
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I use the Honeyden in Veilgarden. The options change with the airs so you can see immediately if you have got the value you want.
Exchanging wine for honey gives 1cp of MW. The honey can be upcoverted to Romantic Notions and exchanged for the wine when Mr Wines turns up, not vastly profitable but a reasonable cycle.
Some of the 2 action options are pretty good as well.
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Daedalus_Falk
Posts: 234
7/20/2018
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Sanguinifex wrote:
I'm on a Voyage of Discovery--if I stop in Polythreme, will I still be on a Voyage of Discovery when I set sail again, or will I have to go through that entire process again? Or does it only reset when I reach London?
It only resets when you pick a special option in your lodgings - you can jet around the Unterzee even unto the Winking Isle itself and it'll stay in place until you're done.
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Henricus
Posts: 38
7/19/2018
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Has it ever been revealed what the Masters did to the Royal Family? Obviously, we all know what the outcome was, but what about the mechanism?
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Ulysses Kingfisher
Posts: 28
7/19/2018
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I have managed to accumulate 3200 Certifiable Scraps. Is there any particular reason for me to favor one of the items that the Relickers will give me for them over the others?
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
7/19/2018
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Well the. I used to think I was far behind when I had two full seasons sitting in my storylets, but Plynkes and Skinnyman have me beat.
Jolanda Swan wrote:
How do you guys do that? HOW?
What Plynkes said. And sometimes it pays off - I've been meaning to buy a bunch of stories including Flint, The Gift, etc. for maybe a year and a half by now, and if I hadn't kept putting it off I'd have missed out on this excellent discount!
Of course now this means I have five extra universal storylets sitting at the top all the time, and just when I had almost cleaned out my previous backlog...
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Skinnyman
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7/19/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
How do you guys do that? HOW?
I am always too fond of the lore; it is hard waiting for a few hours.
Exactly what Plynkes said; I played them during weekend or night when I wasn't to torn from my job. Because of certain preparations that I must attend to, I decided to put a pause! The hoarder in mine wants those items back and season conclusions do provide them/some.
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Jermaine Vendredi
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7/20/2018
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Azothi wrote:
What's the best way to reroll the Airs quality? I'm currently working with the Widow to restock my jade and to get the profitable conflict cards / Implausible Penance option, but is there a better way? Thanks.
I generally find Opportunism in Spite useful for this and other things (weasels! bundles! Suspicion lowering!)
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Sanguinifex
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7/20/2018
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Deathjack999 wrote:
I'll be first out of the gate and ask mine...where have the BDR indicators gone?
You know, the three stat-doodads that measure your total modified BDR.
Yeah, they no longer show up when I equip stuff that would increase it like my Gang of Hoodlums...or my Blemmigan Tourist...or my Academic Gown.
edited by Deathjack999 on 7/17/2018
Yeah I had that happen for a bit, it seems to have stopped happening by now. I thought I was completely stupid for a bit, or that I'd somehow maxed out the number of icons I could have on that sidebar, because of the Popular Song menace, an (accidental!) point of Turncoat, and Irrigo--it was the first time I'd had Irrigo; I'd just gotten back from the Nadir. I'm glad I wasn't imagining it!
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Sanguinifex
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7/20/2018
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I'm on a Voyage of Discovery--if I stop in Polythreme, will I still be on a Voyage of Discovery when I set sail again, or will I have to go through that entire process again? Or does it only reset when I reach London?
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Skinnyman
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7/19/2018
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theonie wrote:
Right, that's my experience too but do I also have to unlock it within a certain period of time, like the monthly ES?
Speaking from experience once you purchased them they stay there until you are done with them. The proof consists of the minimum 19 top pinned stories that I currently have (both ES unlock and purchases).
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theonie
Posts: 77
7/19/2018
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If I buy an ES with Fate, do I have to play it right away, or unlock it right away, or can I do all that later? I am still kicking myself for missing Flint when it was an ES so this #loveindies sale is a good opportunity! But again I don't have time to play it this week.
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Skinnyman
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7/17/2018
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Yup, BDR gone for now. Probably some updates cooking!
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Diptych
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7/17/2018
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Huh, my Bizarre is still there but not my DR. Presumably because I have two Bizarre tattoos, so its unmodified level is above zero!
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Gillsing
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7/17/2018
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If you want higher Watchful you'll surely want an Overgoat or two, and that costs quite a lot. So much so that you would surely reach unmodified Watchful 200 before being able to afford one.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/18/2018
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If you have a good nightmare reduction strategy Seeking Curios in the Forgotten Quarter can be a great stat builder. Primarily watchful but there are various options that use/raise the others.
It can also be profitable, though rewards tend to be random mystery items (secrets, cryptic clues, tales of terror). There are also a couple of rare successes that give Eyeless Skulls (value dependent on if you don't mind raising Liberation of the Night) and the 62 echo rubbery item
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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Aniline
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7/18/2018
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If you plan to stick around AND want a zub, grinding Whirring Contraptions for it is a good way to raise Watchful (either via the Flit / Wilmot's End carousel, or with Unfinished Business wax upconversions if you don't mind raising LoN). Just don't actually build it before you're done Seeking. Contraptions themselves and Winking Isle-safe.
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Jolanda Swan
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7/18/2018
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For Watchful, try expeditions. Lots and lots and lots of expeditions; they are profitable, rather fun and a good way to use your Docks favors!
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/18/2018
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You don't get favours fast. Most favours come from cards and as far as I know there is no other way to get Society excepting turning cards and hoping the RNG is kind. Tip for that is to use the places that don't have location specific cards - the Forgotten Quarter and The Labyrinth of Tigers. Good luck and may the RNG be kind.
The options at the Carnival close when you get to a certain level of renown. The only other thing is that you need Carnival tickets to use those things. Use mouseover and you will find out why you can't use the big top.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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theonie
Posts: 77
7/21/2018
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Many thanks to all my fellow procrastinators for confirming that I can unlock and play the purchased ES at my leisure! Having missed out on unlocking this ES in time once already, I was a bit anxious about it...
Jolanda Swan wrote:
How do you guys do that? HOW?
I am always too fond of the lore; it is hard waiting for a few hours.
Just as Plynkes wrote, I also have the tendency to "save" nice things for later, mostly because I know I'll enjoy them more if I'm relaxed and in a good mood. I do all my grinding when I'm stressed from work. It's been helpful sometimes when the ES is discussed in the forums, e.g. to avoid an unsignalled quirk drop, or whatever.
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