Diptych
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Hey folks! Here's this week's thread for quick questions.
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Skinnyman
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7/15/2018
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And do use the Wiki page! People put effort in it so we can at least try and use it.
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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
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lady ciel
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7/15/2018
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astranox you don't need to buy the route to any area, except Mahogany Hall, as they all open as you go through the making your name trackers.
Take your time and these things will happen at their own pace.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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Diptych
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He had roast beef with mustard for lunch.
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Gillsing
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7/14/2018
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Lea Green wrote:
Can someone PLEASE explain what exactly I'm supposed to do? Take a look here to see all the steps you need to take to go from a nobody to a somebody. The Legendary Charisma is a step above regular PoSI, so that's why you need more to qualify for it. It's something you can work towards once you're already PoSI.
If you want to become PoSI without having to raise Shadowy, you can use a mood card to increase your Shadowy when that test comes up. If you have one on hand, that is. But most PoSI end up with all four stats maxed anyway. Though there are some cards that might benefit you that you can only draw when certain stats are 118 or lower, so it might have some slight benefit to delay certain stats.
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elderfleur
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7/14/2018
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Aronia wrote:
Quick question: how am I supposed to get the Persuasive stats needed to become a Poet-Laureate?
Renown 40 with Society, the Docks, and the Church will get you an extra 21 points with a Transport, a better Weapon, and a Home Comfort (links to the items, so take care if you want a bit of mystery; some of the reveals are pretty fun). You can also skip The Docks by switching professions to Crooked Cross or Correspondent to get an even more Persuasive Weapon. A mood will probably be necessary by the end, though; Persuasive Equipment doesn't stretch very far.
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Azothi
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7/16/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
I was drawn again to the Fidgeting Writer roulette for some reason. It took about 60 actions but I got one Coruscating Soul in the end (poor guy). Is there any complelling reason to think of the whole story as a bad investment, save its nerve-wracking mechanics? It's a case of investing resources to get resources, and it's not as easily repeatable as alternative grinds nowadays. Taking into account the need to grind for Tales of Terror, it averages out at around 1.57 epa (versus ~1.92 epa without resources grinding), which is less than Affair of the Box (1.64 epa), which is easily repeatable and still has access to London's opportunity cards.
This is additionally contrasted with the current "best" echo grind, the tiger-orphan adoption service, which asymptotically approaches 2.22 epa as initial investment increases, and it is easily repeatable by selling the obtained items to buy more orphans. This does not have access to London's opportunity cards, but it's better for fast play.
In other words, Fidgeting Writer is a great story and by no means a bad investment; it's a nice way to make money if you have a pile of Tales of Terror. It's just not the absolute optimal grind.
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Jolanda Swan
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7/16/2018
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I was drawn again to the Fidgeting Writer roulette for some reason. It took about 60 actions but I got one Coruscating Soul in the end (poor guy). Is there any complelling reason to think of the whole story as a bad investment, save its nerve-wracking mechanics?
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PSGarak
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7/12/2018
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Daedalus_Falk wrote:
Are there any ways to raise Melancholy above 10 for a late-game player aside from (A) raising Great Game Renown and (B) "Restitution for the Drowned Man" (which gives Marsh-Mired and raises SMEN along with Melancholy)?
You can use Tears of the Bazaar. Using them this way requires a quality that can only be obtained during Sackmass, but can be done any time of the year if you happen to have some points left over. It also requires Tears of the Bazaar (duh), which are difficult to obtain even aside from the considerable expense. But the text is also in my personal top-5 for the whole game.
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Skinnyman
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7/13/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
I recall reading somewhere that the Cider allows for a very profitable echo grind, but I can't see anything on the wiki. Is it just that the dream cards are so frequent that they can be used as a ~2.5epa grind, or is there something else?
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Basically have an alt which will always cure you (but not allowed)! 6 AP to use 6 cards, 0.6 for the quality and 1 more AP for curing 6 CP of Nightmares. So a 1.973 EPA.
Alternative: probably it was me talking about Cider and being a Shepherd of Souls to instant clear the menaces. With two items that lower your Nightmares you can go use 54 of those cards. Maximizing those, getting Souls and Contracts, using the Shepherd card, cashing in the 13.5 Favours takes you to something around 190 E for 110 AP. Not much compares to other grinds (specially after the Tiger Court), but there are a few things:
1) cash in the wines on the Wine card
2) anyone who finished Soul Trade is advised to do Thieves Cache expeditions for Souls and you get an increased value of the expeditions; you can "reduce" the AP for expeditions by 500/60 for every stash of souls.
3) every point of menace that you cure with the Shepherd increases the EPA of this.
4) probably missing something as it was mostly napkin math
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Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
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Gillsing
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7/14/2018
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astranox wrote:
where can i get mass amounts of mysteries items? (no cards or fate) Progress A Name in Seven Secret Alphabets until the end, and you'll be invited into the university. Progress there until you get to start doing investigations, and you'll be able to turn that into a profitable grind for Cryptic Clues, until you conclude the last investigation, which will make that grind unavailable. You can also gather Casing to steal Tales of Terror!! and Journals of Infamy, but I don't think that's as profitable. Might be quicker to get started that way though?
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Azothi
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7/10/2018
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Chezz wrote:
Is there any special time during the year or something that there are some kind of 'deals' for purchasing stories with Fate? I am eyeing a few of them but the 45 Fate seems a bit steep, and wondering if waiting until Christmas or similar may bring better prices. Two years ago, I believe, there was a deal on three select Fate stories during Hallowmas focusing on more ghostly or macabre content. This was not repeated last year and there's not a particular reason to believe it'll appear again, though.
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Skinnyman
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7/12/2018
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Probably I know the answer, but there's no way to get the Sharp Iron Key, right?
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
7/12/2018
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Not until they reimplement Knife and Candle.
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Skinnyman
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7/12/2018
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GuesssWho wrote:
Do you need to stay Notable to keep the good Professions, or just to get them?
Just to obtain the respective profession.
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Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
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Henricus
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7/9/2018
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Does anybody have the echo for acquiring a Barrel with Leather Shoulder-Straps? I'm afraid that I accidentally dismissed my own.
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Gillsing
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7/9/2018
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Henricus wrote:
Does anybody have the echo for acquiring a Barrel with Leather Shoulder-Straps? I'm afraid that I accidentally dismissed my own. I wouldn't want to volunteer anyone's profile without their consent, but if you do a Google search for "At least there are no pockets for thieves to pick" (with quotes) you should find a few examples.
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Daedalus_Falk
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7/10/2018
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Are there any ways to raise Melancholy above 10 for a late-game player aside from (A) raising Great Game Renown and (B) "Restitution for the Drowned Man" (which gives Marsh-Mired and raises SMEN along with Melancholy)?
Obviously at 12 you can use one of the items or another, but getting from 10 to 12 is the tricky part.
I suppose one COULD just grind Unaccountably Peckish via the Starveling Cat and play Restitution weekly until you get to 12 before giving up the search from "A Bad End" (the worst you'd suffer is having "A Dream of Dark Waters" stuck in your hand), but that's such a damned inconvenience I was hoping for a better way.
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For I was hungry, and you gave me rats. I was thirsty, and you gave me rats. I was naked, and you gave me rats. The rodents were gathered together, the cats slept in the Sun’s blindness, and the rats rose like the Moon, in the light at the edge of the cheese.
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Skinnyman
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7/10/2018
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Reused NPC wrote:
*snip*
On the card for investigating Dr Schlomo, there's a small yellow smudge on the man's cheek.
This has been here the entire time and isn't something new, right? Because that'd be a real unusual thing to update... You seem to be right, but looking at the wiki image, it seems to be a shading.
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Azothi
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7/14/2018
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Gonen wrote:
Is there a planned date of release for the conclusion of the last season of ES stories?
Probably missed the announcement Nope, you didn't miss it.
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Skinnyman
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7/14/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
So nothing groundbreaking, and almost downright useless since the tigers were added. Good to know, thanks. No, but you get to stay in London where you can boost your EPA with expeditions and other great cards!
But you need to log in a lot for this to happen. The Court is the alternative: log in a few times per day, few clicks, done!
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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Gillsing
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7/14/2018
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astranox wrote:
I have the univercityuniversity. (wealth) but it says im not ready... Yeah, you need to be invited because of "A Scholar of the Correspondence", which you get at the last level of A Name in Seven Secret Alphabets. Then you start Featuring in the Tales of the University, which is what would make you ready to eventually start investigating crimes there. So rather than looking for ways to get items you need, you might just want to start 'making a name' for yourself to unlock more content, making things easier to accomplish in the long run.
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Gillsing
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7/14/2018
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astranox wrote:
hm. now im just confused. i was trying to say the university making ur name is locked rn. what do i do? lol What's your "A Name in Seven Secret Alphabets" level then? It doesn't sound to me as if it's 6, which it must be to even get started at the university. Check the link to see what you should/could be doing in order to advance that quality. It starts at Ladybones Road, then continues in the Forgotten Quarter, and then goes on to the University.
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Dudebro Pyro
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7/13/2018
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I recall reading somewhere that the Cider allows for a very profitable echo grind, but I can't see anything on the wiki. Is it just that the dream cards are so frequent that they can be used as a ~2.5epa grind, or is there something else?
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Kharsirr Lynx
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7/13/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
I recall reading somewhere that the Cider allows for a very profitable echo grind, but I can't see anything on the wiki. Is it just that the dream cards are so frequent that they can be used as a ~2.5epa grind, or is there something else?
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You receive 10 Taste of the Garden per 1 action (and full Wounds healing), as much as you will to get. Then Dream cards give you 1 CP of Nightmares and an EI per 1 CP of said Taste.
Assuming you need to readliy clear amassing Nightmares, it's closer to 1,9 EPA at best.
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Gillsing
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7/14/2018
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Yeah, getting into the university with wealth is a bit of a trap, as there's very little you can do there without being A Scholar of the Correspondence.
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Henricus
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7/16/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
I was drawn again to the Fidgeting Writer roulette for some reason. It took about 60 actions but I got one Coruscating Soul in the end (poor guy). Is there any complelling reason to think of the whole story as a bad investment, save its nerve-wracking mechanics?
I've never gotten around to it, myself, but I hear that if you're lucky, it has quite a good EPA. If you aren't, then you could stand to lose a fortune. Besides, a Coruscating Soul for 60 actions is about 5 EPA, minus whatever it cost you to get.
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Dudebro Pyro
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7/16/2018
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Is there any permanent quality at all to selling your soul? And on a related note, what's the best/easiest way to sell it, and how long does it tend to take to get back?
I'm asking because I would normally never even consider selling it, but I just realised that for London's Blood the Luxuries choice (unlocked by owning all 5-card lodgings) is the one that makes the most sense for my character. But it requires the upgraded Embassy lodgings, and those require a soul contract for their Penstock's Wicket option, or a bit over three thousand scraps. And for London's Marrow I'm definitely grinding for the Treasure's option (~13000 scraps) so having to pay full price for the Sanctum would kill me, nor do I want to sell the Nadir location. So, in view of all these circumstances, I end up in the situation where I'd be willing to sell and regain my soul just to make the game mechanically easier, and forget about this juncture from a roleplay perspective - which is only possible if doing so leaves no permanent mark.
EDIT: Disregard all this, my soul is already stained and the logistics of working around that and timing Flint correctly (Flint is the one that removes stains, right?) while accomplishing my other goals (which is to trim my deck by wiping houses first, then reset SMEN, then wipe renown) is just too much hassle. I guess a spymaster will be learning of the Nadir after all.
Thanks for the info anyway, interesting to know.
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Azothi
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7/16/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
Is there any permanent quality at all to selling your soul? And on a related note, what's the best/easiest way to sell it, and how long does it tend to take to get back? Only if you use Fate to purchase it back. Most profitable way to sell it if you've played the Soul Trade is to sell it on the City Vices: What profit? card, which gives a 312.5 echo item (a Coruscating Soul, I believe EDIT: Nope, just checked. It's a Fabulous Diamond). I'm not sure what it is if not.
To recover your soul afterward, it's probably best to wait. You can regain your soul through a Bundle of Oddities. Dispersing the crowd in One's public and engaging in piracy on the high seas are the options most likely to regain your soul. You can exchange surprise packages, but each package only gives you a 1/1000 chance.
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