MrEvil135
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7/5/2018
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Whenever I trade in luminescent items, I get a message saying I am advancing the Liberation of the Night. What is that, and do I want to know?
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Hotshot Blackburn
Posts: 110
7/6/2018
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The Liberation of Night refers to a premise, an ideal, and a plan.
[spoiler]The premise of the Liberation of Night is that this universe is fundamentally unjust. There is an order to things, there is a hierarchy where some rule over and dictate the lives of others, where your suffering and misery is justified based upon your place in a grand order, and that is wrong. Reality is governed by unfair and unjust laws, and these laws are spread through light.
The ideal of the Liberation of Night is an end to this order, a breaking of a constricting chain. If injustice is innate to law, then law must be broken for justice to happen. If law is propagated via light...then light must be extinguished. Night brings freedom.
The plan of the Liberation of Night is to build a device that can extinguish light. This is impossible, of course. That's why the device must harness the power of the impossible to do so.[/spoiler]
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Passionario
Posts: 777
7/12/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
None of these plans can ever come close to perfect, but the way things are now really are the best they can be.
Yes, we live during a golden age in the best of possible worlds.
Not because we are ruled by tyrants both human and alien. Not because the status quo is maintained with a neddy stick and a steel-toed boot. Not because our supposed guardians of morality and natural order run dedicated facilities for experimentation on abducted orphans for the purpose of manufacturing particularly potent drugs. Not because black-clad censors build bonfires out of poetry books that dare to suggest that there's more to humanity than this bleak existence. And certainly not because this chain of atrocities and oppression goes all the way up.
It's because we have a rare historical opportunity to finally do something about it all.
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a Nice Friend
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7/13/2018
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I feel like mentioning that I opened the gate in the North while wearing nothing but a barrel, a scandalous hat and a pair of scarlet stockings, and the Judgements all saw it. I forced them to look at that. This makes me a more effective anarchist than the entire Calendar Council put together, in my opinion.
(I still wear that outfit to this day, and forevermore shall I wear it)
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Sir Joseph Marlen
Posts: 575
7/12/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
How about we don't? Please. Fellow Londoners. All of these plans are awful. The Liberation will turn the world into a nightmare, not unlike the Iron Republic. The Bazaars plan will cause more and more grief, at least two more cities, the continuation of the Master poking their most likely non-existent noses in more peoples business, and its success isn't assured. As for White's plan, an empty universe is empty. No ground to put your feet, no air to breath. and without the laws of the universe, death will be little more than an abstract idea. It would be eternal torment. Best case scenario is the mataining of the status quo
Something needs to be done, because if nothing changes, then we are likely to die with our fear of the unknown. [spoiler]I'll assume you don't know the outcome of the Bazaar's mission on humanity? The Bazaar's mission varies among interpretations by the fanbase, but it ranges between two theories: the Bazaar seeking the right love story to save the Sun from dying of grief after it delivers them the message of an unknown star's refusal of love, and the Bazaar convincing the Judgements of love outside the Chain to save themselves, the Sun, and their daughter from punishment by the gods for breaking Law. Either way, if the Bazaar can't find the right love story to achieve their goal, then the Sun will surely perish, and us along with it. Something -ANYTHING- needs to be done to change the status quo, whether it be the death of gods and Law in the Liberation, the Bazaar succeeding in their goal, the Dawn Machine rewriting reality, Vicky shooting the Sun in the face to establish her rule, or any other mix of possibilities. If things remain as they are and the Bazaar fails to save her love, humanity and life on Earth are likely to die alongside the Sun's death.[/spoiler]
With that being said, it's important to note that, while the Liberation is far from perfect (albeit uncertain in its final result), the current state of being is also horrible. By design, the universe is built by callous gods who feed off the death of their creations and play with their lives like toys, sending them to a hellish nightmare upon death. Existence itself is a horrid cruelty, and to say that any of the multiple plans for change are far too worse a fate is to not consider how dire our current state truly is. Some fates are surely worse than others, but with differing takes in Fallen London, Sunless Sea, and Sunless Skies on the Liberation's outcome, it's hard to say that our current state is truly the best outcome.
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Gul al-Ahlaam
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7/6/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
Um, how about no? I would rather not, I very much like light.
Light is how the angels keep you chained. The prospect of freedom can be frightening at first, but as you strain against the edges of the world they've built for you, you'll realize what a prison it can be.
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a Nice Friend
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7/12/2018
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My plan is to build an elaborate sun costume and pass through the Avid Horizon.
If you can't beat em, join em.
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MrEvil135
Posts: 39
7/11/2018
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One of us is a Seeker, but he currently cannot speak for all of us, as he is currently tranqulized after attempting to light himself on fire muttering something about a seventh candle
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MrEvil135
Posts: 39
7/13/2018
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So, YOU are the reason all the higher beings look down on us humans. Shame on you, whatever foul beast you are.
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a Nice Friend
Posts: 127
7/15/2018
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Well...
[spoiler]The Bazaar's love is one-sided. The Sun loves another. The Sun and the Bazaar did create a kind of offspring together, but she's called "the sun's experiment" and was hidden out of shame.
More likely, Seeking is supposed to turn the player into a sort of vessel of grief, (an anti-bazaar?) and reveal them to the Judgements. A hideously mortified beacon of thousands of years' worth of hatred and misery. Just the saddest little candle you ever did see.
(or rather, seven candles, each representing a different torment?) If all goes according to plan, your miserable light should catch the eyes of a thousand thousand Judgements and make a good argument against rebelling or even existing.[/spoiler]
whatever the exact details, the White needs to chill.
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Monara
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12/10/2018
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Honeyaddict wrote:
assuming one can live without Vitamin D
Without the laws being enforced, who's to say that is still true? I'm going to live without vitamin D. Try to stop me 
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eaglewiz
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7/5/2018
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Well, your user name is MrEvil, so .. maybe.
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Malena Mordekai
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7/8/2018
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Kalamari wrote:
Stop converting Luminosity items, Liberation is just bad Gnosticism.
Au contraire, it is PRAGMATIC Gnosticism. Better than just speculate upon distant epiphanies or indulge in senseless hedonism.
I'm not precisely a defender of the anarchs but I see the need to QUESTION the notions of "divine right".
However since we're all trapped in a desperate Neath it is only ironic we get involved and such lofty and cosmic quests. Seems something distant, unreachable. And here the concept of Impossibility comes in handy, if you know what I mean.
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Jolanda Swan
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7/9/2018
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I understand the need to rebel against the cold, inhuman judgements... and the futility of it. However the Liberation is going to be awful to so many people, there has to be another way.
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a Nice Friend
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7/10/2018
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[spoiler] The White's plan could totally murder the Judgements, so that would shake things up quite a bit. The Bazaar's plan most likely has nothing to do with status mixing; the "Bazaar plans to break the chain" theory is an old one that became very popular but it maybe doesn't hold up. [/spoiler]
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Gul al-Ahlaam
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7/7/2018
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James Sinclair wrote:
There's something lurking in the southwestern reaches of the Neath that's growing stronger, brighter, and more domineering with every passing day. And (un?)fortunately, a Liberation bomb may very well be the only way to stop it.
That's assuming you want to stop it. While its nature is not really compatible with the kind of freedom the Liberation would bring, or even the limited kind of freedom we have now, its ascendancy is a comforting possibility to those who value order, peace, and progress above all else, and want to dictate what those terms mean, in a very fundamental sense.
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MrEvil135
Posts: 39
7/9/2018
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To quote someone much more well known than I, "On the control panel of the universe I would put a DO NOT TOUCH sign". The Liberation appears to be not only pressing all the buttons at random, but also repeatedly slamming ones head into the panel. Life as we know it will most likely end.
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Passionario
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7/9/2018
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Jolanda Swan wrote:
I understand the need to rebel against the cold, inhuman judgements... and the futility of it. However the Liberation is going to be awful to so many people, there has to be another way.
There is a third way - The White's Elaboration of the Counsel of Peace - but it's not a better way, by any reckoning.
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incerteza
Posts: 103
7/5/2018
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It's a destruction of all the light in the Universe. Surprisingly, some people work on it.
For more info, you can look into "The lights are out" destinies. Here are full echoes: save many, contribute to it, save no one, save Princess, save spouse.
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astranox
Posts: 120
7/6/2018
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oooh i can ruin the universe? lets get to trading luminosity 
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incerteza
Posts: 103
7/6/2018
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astranox wrote:
oooh i can ruin the universe? lets get to trading luminosity
Besides, you have the most fitting username for the job.
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incerteza
Posts: 103
7/10/2018
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lukeskylicker wrote:
I'm not familiar with "The White's Plan." It might be something I would like to preach. Despite being a revolutionary at heart I never liked the liberation once I learned what it was.
An alternative to a complete destruction of the universe would be nice.
It's probably not something you'd like to preach, then. The plan is described here (beware, heavy spoilers). If you don't wanna go into full-spoilers, a short version of the plan is [spoiler]"an empty universe rather than a disordered one"[/spoiler]
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MrEvil135
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7/11/2018
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How about we don't? Please. Fellow Londoners. All of these plans are awful. The Liberation will turn the world into a nightmare, not unlike the Iron Republic. The Bazaars plan will cause more and more grief, at least two more cities, the continuation of the Master poking their most likely non-existent noses in more peoples business, and its success isn't assured. As for White's plan, an empty universe is empty. No ground to put your feet, no air to breath. and without the laws of the universe, death will be little more than an abstract idea. It would be eternal torment. Best case scenario is the mataining of the status quo
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incerteza
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7/11/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
How about we don't? Please. Fellow Londoners. All of these plans are awful. The Liberation will turn the world into a nightmare, not unlike the Iron Republic. The Bazaars plan will cause more and more grief, at least two more cities, the continuation of the Master poking their most likely non-existent noses in more peoples business, and its success isn't assured. As for White's plan, an empty universe is empty. No ground to put your feet, no air to breath. and without the laws of the universe, death will be little more than an abstract idea. It would be eternal torment. Best case scenario is the mataining of the status quo
I was under impression you're a Seeker, aren't you? I mean, well, if you really care about things like "least awful plan", "best case scenario", and "not slamming one's head onto ominous giant red button", you might not like this quest too much.
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MrEvil135
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7/12/2018
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None of these plans can ever come close to perfect, but the way things are now really are the best they can be. Think fellow Londoners. Things now aren't perfect, but the universe probably won't end if things continued the way they have been. All other plans involve humans either dying, trapped in an endless nightmare, or being brainwashed and enslaved to a dangerous inteligence. While it is true that we are only playthings to beings far beyond our comprehension, every time we have ever tried to do anything about it we failed miserably.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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12/10/2018
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The most glaring (ha!) problem with the Liberation is that once laws and conventions are abolished, we can no longer have fun by flouting them ... how dull that would be?!
Oh ... and the horrific misery it would inflict on millions or billions of people ... that's not good either.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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12/11/2018
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Siankan wrote:
Zeculo The Squid wrote:
That’s short term; the small liberation. After the large one there won’t be death, or gravity, or anything of that sort.
Or, you know, existence.
It's kinda like Nirvana ... only achieved through Unenlightenment.
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Honeyaddict
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12/10/2018
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incerteza wrote:
Zeculo The Squid wrote:
Honeyaddict wrote:
Do you wanna be stabbed? Cause that's how you'll get stabbed to be stopped.  Without the laws being enforced, who’s going to stop me from not being stopped by the stabbing!?
After-the-Liberation round of Knife-and-Candle gonna be fun.
Sorry to say, but the reason I want the Liberation to be stopped is because the Revs want ALL lightsources destroyed, including candles. So Knife-and-Candle would be... Knife?
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Ixc
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7/16/2018
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a Nice Friend wrote:
whatever the exact details, the White needs to chill.
How is a star going to be chill ?
a Nice Friend wrote:
[spoiler]
The Bazaar's love is one-sided. The Sun loves another. The Sun and the Bazaar did create a kind of offspring together, but she's called "the sun's experiment" and was hidden out of shame.
[/spoiler]
So... we’re here because the Sun is the ultimate deadbeat parent.
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astranox
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7/6/2018
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OMFG SOMEONE ACTUALLY GOT THE THREE REFERENCES IN THAT MESSAGE! KUDOS FRIEND! LOL
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lukeskylicker
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7/10/2018
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I'm not familiar with "The White's Plan." It might be something I would like to preach. Despite being a revolutionary at heart I never liked the liberation once I learned what it was.
An alternative to a complete destruction of the universe would be nice.
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Kalamari
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7/7/2018
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Stop converting Luminosity items, Liberation is just bad Gnosticism.
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menaulon
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7/10/2018
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Passionario wrote:
There is a third way - The White's Elaboration of the Counsel of Peace - but it's not a better way, by any reckoning.
[spoiler] Does White's way entail anything beyond a minor change in the current balance of powers? The Bazaar's plan, ironically enough, seems like a good fit for the third way. It would relax the Chain's restrictions on status mixing while leaving the powers that be intact. The Bazaar and the Sun might be a part of White's plan to achieve the Elaboration, but I don't understand White well enough to say for sure. [/spoiler]
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MrEvil135
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7/6/2018
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Um, how about no? I would rather not, I very much like light.
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James Sinclair
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7/7/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
Um, how about no? I would rather not, I very much like light. There's something lurking in the southwestern reaches of the Neath that's growing stronger, brighter, and more domineering with every passing day. And (un?)fortunately, a Liberation bomb may very well be the only way to stop it.
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astranox
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7/7/2018
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James Sinclair wrote:
MrEvil135 wrote:
Um, how about no? I would rather not, I very much like light. There's something lurking in the southwestern reaches of the Neath that's growing stronger, brighter, and more domineering with every passing day. And (un?)fortunately, a Liberation bomb may very well be the only way to stop it.
creepy. lol
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Ixc
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7/15/2018
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I think I understand the White’s plan.
Presuming: The Bazaar is already slated to die by the Judgements. Meeting sunlight would destroy it. Then there is the Eye, and the population of anarchists in London and beyond helping it, who would be at least stymied or outright killed by sunlight. Grief can be spread from a Judgement to another, which is it’s goal.
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The White has Seekers open the Avid Horizon.
Sunlight destroys the Bazaar, London, the Eye and anything aiding the Liberation through the Horizon.
The Sun is told of or sees its beloved’s death, and falls into mourning.
The White uses the Sun’s grief, and uses it for the “Counsel of Peace” and spreads it to the Judgements, killing all of them.
Nice plan. Profit?
[/spoiler]
And speaking of Veils... A tantrum seems like a tame response to 2000 years of homesickness. Then again, you can just violently murder people to get over it (like I do!).
P.S. The place in the Eye is called the House of Rods and Chains. The cones in the human eye deal with color and light, which in their view, chains us, while rods deal with seeing in the dark.
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incerteza
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12/10/2018
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Zeculo The Squid wrote:
Honeyaddict wrote:
Do you wanna be stabbed? Cause that's how you'll get stabbed to be stopped. Without the laws being enforced, who’s going to stop me from not being stopped by the stabbing!?
After-the-Liberation round of Knife-and-Candle gonna be fun.
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Zeculo The Squid
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12/10/2018
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incerteza wrote:
Zeculo The Squid wrote:
Honeyaddict wrote:
Do you wanna be stabbed? Cause that's how you'll get stabbed to be stopped. Without the laws being enforced, who’s going to stop me from not being stopped by the stabbing!?
After-the-Liberation round of Knife-and-Candle gonna be fun.
No rules, just stab
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Ixc
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7/12/2018
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The problem is is that there are two Liberations: one in the Neath, and the other in the High Wilderness.
The one in the Neath is designed to break the Masters’ control on London, and possibly prevent the other two cities from falling. And it results in a mass refugee crisis, and people dying from the many things emboldened by darkness. They will destroy the city they want to save, and many other cities in the Neath. Meanwhile, I imagine Mr. Veils will be eating well.
But, at the same time, they are trying to aid the cosmic Liberation, with two completely different goals. As far as I can tell, the Eye is using the Revolutionaries down here to get an advantage above, where the Judgements can’t get to them.
And as far as I can tell, the goal of the cosmic Liberation amounts to genocide of every Judgement, or converting them into Sable Suns, or both.
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incerteza
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7/11/2018
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MrEvil135 wrote:
One of us is a Seeker, but he currently cannot speak for all of us, as he is currently tranqulized after attempting to light himself on fire muttering something about a seventh candle
Ohhh I see, sorry. Wish him luck.
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Ixc
Posts: 365
12/10/2018
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We’d also lose Neathly immortality in the LoN, as we’d lack Stone’s light.
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Pleased to meet you. Ixc, spy and detective. Inventor of the Correspondence Cannon.
Are you a Paramount Presence? Record your name here. For posterity, of course.
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
12/10/2018
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Zeculo The Squid wrote:
Those people would get better afterwards.
[spoiler]"Over time, the survivors adapt."
and
"The Constables are dead or changed. The ways to the Surface are choked with refugees and corpses."
and
"Occasionally you make forays into the city to seek survivors, but it’s horribly dangerous. You lose almost as many to spider and anarchists and human wolves, as you save … It is not a good life. But it is a life, and you have given it to them."[/spoiler]
Or not.
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http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron
Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Siankan
Posts: 1048
12/11/2018
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Zeculo The Squid wrote:
That’s short term; the small liberation. After the large one there won’t be death, or gravity, or anything of that sort.
Or, you know, existence.
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Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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