Diptych
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4/23/2018
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Here's this week's quick questions quead! Er, thread!
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Kaijyuu
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4/25/2018
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Many times, in the past:
Me: I don't like this new thing.
Company: Oh you'll love it, just wait and see!
*later, when old version becomes unavailable*
Me: I want the old thing back.
Company: But the new thing is so much better!
Me: No, I hate it. Give the option back or I'll stop using your service.
Company: But the new thing is better!
*I and everyone who agrees with me stops using their service, leaving only the people who DO like the new thing left*
Company: See, all our users now love the new thing. We were vindicated!
Me: ...
(note: I don't actually have a strong opinion on FL's new website design. Just expressing my distaste for "better" aesthetics, as dictated by some authority or other)
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Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
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genesis
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4/25/2018
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The server is super slow for me. Anyone else? I wonder if it's the result of formerly mobile-only users migrating en mass to the browser....
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http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin
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Plynkes
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4/26/2018
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Holden wrote:
It's not just you. I'm on a 115mb/sec fiberoptic line and I can frequently count to 8 before a page or tab loads after I click something. It's made grinding souls in the Flit for echoes incredibly tedious.
Indeed, the game is approaching the regions of unplayability for me at the moment. I'm counting to a lot higher than eight right now.
edited by Plynkes on 4/26/2018
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"Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Optimatum
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4/25/2018
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Remember, all we have so far are a couple pictures from a mock-up. Failbetter listens to feedback; I expect that they've already implemented some of it, and they'll continue to listen once the beta and live version are out. Don't discount the changes before we even see them.
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Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
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PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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ChangelingChilde
Posts: 231
4/25/2018
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There's a reason people don't use Livejournal anymore . . .
I don't think it will actually drive me away or anything, but it's absolutely pointless and detracts from the theme of the game.
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DO you recall how the Hunger began?
I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can!
OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
--The Elfin Cannibal
Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.
Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897. Will be Vake-hunting next.
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Dudebro Pyro
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4/26/2018
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GuesssWho wrote:
Will the new site have a skin for what it looks like now? I really don't want the change--if it ain't broke don't fix it and all that jazz.
I actually have the current CSS saved (and there are a few snapshots on archive.is). Should the new design be really off-putting, I fully intend to do my best to recreate the classic look - provided they don't make it too difficult (god forbid they implement some kind of bloated dynamic DOM building doohickey thingamajig like youtube recently did - even though for some incomprehensible reason that kind of thing is all the rage in modern web design...)
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Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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ChangelingChilde
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4/25/2018
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Will the new site have a skin for what it looks like now? I really don't want the change--if it ain't broke don't fix it and all that jazz.
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DO you recall how the Hunger began?
I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can!
OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
--The Elfin Cannibal
Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.
Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897. Will be Vake-hunting next.
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Plynkes
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4/29/2018
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Holden wrote:
The lag has gotten so constant and so bad that I'm currently afraid to play any Exceptional Stories because the site's so inclined to stall out loading results and I don't want to miss part of a story that way. This is distressing.
It's been cripplingly slow for several days for me, making it no fun to play at all. But right now this minute, the game is not responding at all.
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"Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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suinicide
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4/29/2018
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Offer them winsome orphans. Tigers love orphans.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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suinicide
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4/30/2018
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Bitty wrote:
I was kinda on a hiatus for a bit and thus no longer have an ES subscription, however I hear that the the latest story offers a baby bat companion,,,,i love bats,,,im interested, does anyone have this equipped so I may see it?
Consider it equipped.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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suinicide
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4/28/2018
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Yes, just be careful not to lose any stats.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Holden
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4/29/2018
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The lag has gotten so constant and so bad that I'm currently afraid to play any Exceptional Stories because the site's so inclined to stall out loading results and I don't want to miss part of a story that way. This is distressing.
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Ophelia Caldecott is probably burgling something from your lodgings as you read this.
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Jamilah S. Wolf
Posts: 122
4/26/2018
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Thank you Skinnyman and Yehochanan. Unfortunately, as tempting as it is, I haven't the time like before to grind for A Paramount Presence. The Court of the Wakeful Eye and Poet Laureate already snagged my attention. 
While I'm broaching the subject, are there any post game opportunities this old gal can pursue? I've done a few that I can't recall off the top of my head; I'm open to any and all suggestions.
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Jamilah, a most fascinating Lady of the Neath who finds herself mingling with Society and aligning with Criminals. This Licentiate Extraordinaire would love to align with the Masters, given the chance. A Shattering Force.
Huarwar Ceiswyr, a Welshman and detective lured to the Neath to Seek. The toll it has taken does not hide itself, nor does he bother to. On hiatus.
Open to all actions, delicious friends. Messages required prior to harmful ones. PM for hints Enigmatic.
She wishes for nothing more than to be close to the Masters, for who else can unlock the Mysteries of the Neath?
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
4/27/2018
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Jason5237 wrote:
Interface and aesthetic preferences aside, the few times I had tried the site on my laptop in lieu of the mobile app, the site always felt molasses slow. Holden’s example pretty much sums it up.
Playing on the site now, it’s the same as my previous experiences.
I’m sure the new site will rectify much; it’s woefully outdated.
J-
That's a server issue, though, and nothing on the UI side can be fixed to make it better (unless their current design places undue load on the servers and they optimise that away). On lucky days where the servers themselves were snappy, playing was an absolutely pleasurable experience. The mobile app was snappier simply by virtue of being offline.
Given that they're using "modern" web frameworks by the looks of things, I doubt the actual user interface will be any snappier. Personally, the best I'm hoping for is that it doesn't become any slower, especially on older devices. In fact, on the offline mobile the actual UI was slow as molasses, at least on Android (~0.75-1 seconds of delay per action, without any network activity, and on a pretty modern phone) - though hopefully the web implementation will have little to do with the native code in the apps.
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Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Skinnyman
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4/28/2018
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Or just toy with the Devils to get some favours and confident smiles and decline opera invitations to lower it back.
Do note that these interaction will yield some scandal as well.
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ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 468
4/28/2018
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I can confirm that being one of the "good guys" in the Soul Trade does not rid you of the devils. On the contrary, a certain level of that quality encourages a particular chap to send flowers. Persistently. I have never had Intimate of Devils at all, so can't say about that. Soul Trade also throws up another card not mentioned on the wiki. I have a small amount of Renown devils for my profession, however.
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https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Meradine%20Heidenreich
The Starveling kit
Gobbled up the bit
of cheese on my tray ..
"O Weh!"
No plant battles, please.
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Greg M
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4/28/2018
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Assuming I don't want to sell my soul (for RP reasons), what's the best level of Intimate of Devils to get fewer of those damn devil cards? (I know that below 12 is better, bc 12 triggers both Abstraction cards.) Better yet, is there any other way--even a Fate-locked option--to eliminate them entirely? Siding with the good guys in "A Trade in Souls," perhaps? Because at this point I'd do it just to stop the cards.
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http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/GregM
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
4/28/2018
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I believe keeping it at 0 is what results in the least card draws. At the very least, it's only 1 card then, and you can hold it in your hand forever.
The only way to make them go away forever without selling your soul to them is to Seek What Ought Not Be Sought.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 756
4/26/2018
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As much as I don't understand how the drive for "responsiveness" leads people do find increasingly heavy and complex ways to do the same thing, I'm more referring to how youtube has a really weird way to create DOM nodes on-the-fly with autogenerated IDs, which makes it pretty hard to create userstyles/userscripts now. I don't remember the details, but I read it on the YoutubePlus (now Particle) github, which seems to have been purged of the old discussions since it got deprecated (for the exact reason above - an entirely new userscript was required to reimplement the functionality with the wacky new layout).
I don't think the usual frameworks are nearly as bad, though I don't have any first-hard experience with them.
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Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Jason5237
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4/25/2018
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I am one of those app users no more. Playing in the site legitimately as of today via my mobile. I don’t know how you guys did it and/or why there were so few app users to begin with.
But looking forward to the revamp.
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Yehochanan
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4/26/2018
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Jamilah S. G. Wolf wrote:
I can't believe I never asked back when I first got Shattering Force, but isn't it supposed to raise your level cap? I'm still at 200. Am I misunderstanding having been away so long?
No, the level cap stays at 200.
BUT, you can overcap your dangerous up to 215 using your notability (up to 15) on the ''An Unsigned Message' card. (It sets your dangerous to 200 + current notability.)
Note, that it actually consumes your notability and things like the Cave of the Nadir can reduce your dangerous again aftwerwards. So be sure that you want to grind all that notability beforehand.
EDIT: god dammit, too slow
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https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Yochanan/Yochanan - a magnanimous seeker of knowledge, experiences and pleasures.
Open to most social actions except loitering.
Owns a majestic plant ready to weed out some competition.
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Dudebro Pyro
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4/25/2018
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I'm just now trying to catch up to all the Exceptional Stories I've put off playing for a while, except I'm now completely lost on the order. I don't remember the titles either, since I only have storylet names to go on. Could someone help me sort these storylets?
* A Meeting with an Iron Representative
* Drunken zailors
* An Art-Afflicted Alleyway
* A Heated Argument
* A Moment of Lucidity
I think that's all of them. Last one I finished was the Season of Sceptres ending, so that should be it, right?
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Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar
Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Yehochanan
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4/25/2018
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PSGarak wrote:
Yehochanan wrote:
Were any changes recently made to the faction cards?
Specifically the options to increase your stats using favours.
I am somewhat confused as these options seem to be invisible now. I am at 200 or overcapped at all stats, but so far I saw them regularly.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having these options get disabled when you can't increase your stats anymore. I would welcome it as I won't accidentally use them anymore.
I just am confused because I didn't read anything official on it.
That change happened maybe two months ago? If I remember correctly from my expeditions to the Nadir (always a tricky proposition), the lock-out values vacillated between 198 and 199 once or twice.
Oh, wow. I must have been quite absent-minded to not notice this for such a long time.
Thanks for the answer.
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https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Yochanan/Yochanan - a magnanimous seeker of knowledge, experiences and pleasures.
Open to most social actions except loitering.
Owns a majestic plant ready to weed out some competition.
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suinicide
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4/25/2018
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
I'm just now trying to catch up to all the Exceptional Stories I've put off playing for a while, except I'm now completely lost on the order. I don't remember the titles either, since I only have storylet names to go on. Could someone help me sort these storylets?
* A Meeting with an Iron Representative
* Drunken zailors
* An Art-Afflicted Alleyway
* A Heated Argument
* A Moment of Lucidity
I think that's all of them. Last one I finished was the Season of Sceptres ending, so that should be it, right?
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A meeting with an Iron representative - factory of favours (February)
Drunken zailors - lamentation lock (January)
An art afflicted alleyway - the pursuit of moths (March)
A heated argument - the murgatroyd formula (April)
A moment of lucidity - steeped in honey (December)
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 468
4/29/2018
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Game is unplayable at present.
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https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Meradine%20Heidenreich
The Starveling kit
Gobbled up the bit
of cheese on my tray ..
"O Weh!"
No plant battles, please.
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