easter
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So I've been playing for a bit and like... I'm still not entirely sure what the Bazaar is? By which I mean... I feel that were I physically in Fallen London I would be able to look at the Bazaar and see something that would give me a better understanding of it than I have from the snippets of lore I get through playing.
So lets say I was standing at a high point in London, looking down at the Bazaar, with a casual citizen who knew an average amount about London next to me. What would I (A) see and (B) get told if I asked "what's up with that thing over there?" Because currently I have like... it's a bunch of tentacles that that pulled London down on top of the last 4 cities it pulled down and is kinda in charge of a market that's of top of it? ish? Does the Bazaar talk? Does it communicate in some other way? Does it DO anything? Is it in charge of London? Is it like.. considered evil for what it did to London? Is it a problem we're trying to solve? A quaint aspect of the city we've grown fond of?
I would love some like... short narrative story about a descriptive tableau for the various areas of Fallen London that give readers the sort of information they would get if they actually wandered around that area. Does such a thing exist somewhere? The wikis are all aggressively mechanic rather than lore based from what I've seen.
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Passionario
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a Nice Friend
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The image shows up in Fallen London (shrunken down to tiny icon size) in certain Bazaar-related scenarios, but the bigger version I posted is from Sunless Sea.
I also played Sunless Sea before Fallen London and it's honestly really fun that way. Sunless Sea gives a lot of answers and revelations about really late-game and important Neathy lore, but since you haven't played Fallen London you don't really have the context for a lot of it. Then you start a character in Fallen London and you're drip-fed knowledge about the Neath and the puzzle fills itself in, backwards. Or something like that.
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TheThirdPolice
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Perspective of a typical Londoner:
The Bazaar is a spired building or collection of spired buildings carved with Correspondence Sigils, where the Masters and some favoured or wealthy citizens live. The map of London warped around it somehow when it Fell. I've never seen it move but then again we do call it He and She and there is that door made of teeth...
Perspective of a knowledgeable Londoner:
This thing is definitely alive and possibly sentient. There is also a disturbing amount of evidence that it will eventually choose to kill us all and trap the next city.
Perspective of scholars and madmen:
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The Bazaar is a sentient messenger from beyond the Earth. It has contracted the Masters to help it, but leaves them in charge of day-to-day governance. It collects the stories of our love, and when it is done it will turn us all to lacre to power its engines.
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There is more to it than that but any further and we're getting into some of the deepest lore in the game. The game tells you more in oblique or metaphorical ways in some of the Destinies, and in the Seventh Letter play (which I think is only available during the Feast of the Exceptional Rose).
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TheThirdPolice
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Yes, the Bazaar does have tentacular subsurface structures that are mysterious and rarely mentioned. The moment of a Fall has never been fully described from the perspective of the new City, as far as I know, but it's probably more subtle than a physical wrenching. We do have one description in what might be the first promotional image ever made for Echo Bazaar:
So an enormous swarm of bats covered London and when they left, London was in the Neath. Which I admit doesn't answer any questions.
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a Nice Friend
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The Bazaar looks like this!
Note the little pointy crown-like bit at the top. That's the spired part of the Bazaar we usually see. It's big.
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Jaina
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Cladery Heart - [spoiler]the ship was built around the Bazaar's Cladent Lobe and became a living ship so I imagine that could give a hint as to the aesthetic of the Bazaar[/spoiler]
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easter
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@TheThirdPolice - The picture @A Nice Friend posted is from (or at least in) Sunless Sea. It's used in the Fulgent Impeller's story.
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a Nice Friend
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In Sunless Skies, you may encounter this scene of what appears to be the aftermath of a battle.
[spoiler] Is that the underside of a messenger space-crab? Who knows. Looks like there wasn't a winner, but the crustacean really held its own against that snaggly toothbeast (a dragon possibly?) [/spoiler]
edited by a Nice Friend on 4/6/2018
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easter
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Ohhhh. See, I played Sunless Sea first so I first saw the Bazaar in < this image > Based on the description the game gave me of it "pulling down" London I though the Bazaar was those tentacles in the water and the building was just something built on TOP of it. Like... some dawn engine, iron republic level magic nonsense.
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