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Diptych
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3/5/2018
Hullo all! Here's this week's thread for short questions and answers!

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a Nice Friend
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3/10/2018
Harry P. wrote:
suinicide wrote:
GuesssWho wrote:
Just what happened to Oscar Wilde in this world? I've heard it was as tragic as his real-life fate. Did he go North or the like?


Mr Pages happened to him.


[...]Oscar Wilde is better known as the Wilting Dandy [...]


Oscar Wilde is the Epigrammatic Irishman in this story, not the Wilting Dandy! Mr Pages dealt with him in a much more permanent manner.
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Henricus
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3/11/2018
masema wrote:
What is the fastest way to get 1 wound?


Attempt a Dangerous challenge with a 99% chance of success.
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dov
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3/10/2018
GuesssWho wrote:

Okay, not nicer exactly. More likeable? More sympathetic? Something like that.

I think the word is "adorkable".

(And Pages would probably approve of this word, as well.)

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Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
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3/6/2018
I've gotten ~3600 scraps almost entirely from the premises at the Bazaar, and recently a hundred or so from the Lair in the Marshes.

It's a very long term investment, on the order of years, to get the 3200 scrap items from otherwise profitable actions. So I wouldn't really "expect" getting the items from them since none of us know if we'll be playing the game that long. But it's still nice.

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Henricus
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3/9/2018
Do we know if the Bishop of St Fiacre's face came from an actual churchman, or if he just flayed some random man? If the latter, how did he manage to rise through the church hierarchy without anybody realising what he is?
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Estelle Knoht
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3/9/2018
millea wrote:
When you talk to him in Flint, the Bishop says he takes his faces from the dead and the willing, explaining the first one is easy for a churchman to access and the other is "more common than you think".

I'm pretty sure it has also been implied somewhere that he's already changed face during the course of being a Bishop - but take this with a grain of salt, as I can't give you a concrete source.


One of the Rag Trade conversion mentions that the Bishop had to get a new mitre because his face or head changed shape.

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ChangelingChilde
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3/9/2018
Just what happened to Oscar Wilde in this world? I've heard it was as tragic as his real-life fate. Did he go North or the like?

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suinicide
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3/9/2018
GuesssWho wrote:
Just what happened to Oscar Wilde in this world? I've heard it was as tragic as his real-life fate. Did he go North or the like?


Mr Pages happened to him.

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Optimatum
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3/6/2018
Scraps aren't really profitable no matter what you do with them, though it is (slightly) better to go for the 3200 rewards. I'm just using them to collect items, and once I've gotten all the scrap-exclusive items I'll stop getting them.

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Tyrconnell
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3/6/2018
If you want echoes, scraps have higher value the more of them you spend. The best per-scrap value is for 3200 items. It's true, it's not very profitable if you're getting 1-2 scraps per action, because they come out to a value of just under 0.5 echoes each. But the Bazaar lodging is profitable just in giving you 2 echoes, plus you get 4 scraps. The Lair in the Marshes also has an option that gives 1 scrap and 1 Society favour, which is wortwhile regardless of the scrap. Play those enough and it'll add up.

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Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
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3/5/2018
It's mainly used to gate the most profitable turnin for the Affair of the Box carousel (remember that you can't get Mourning Candles until it hits 40). I don't know of anything else that uses it, nor anything that reduces it.

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Jolanda Swan
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3/10/2018
It is said that Mr Pages ate the Epigrammatic Irishman (Wilde) because Wilde said something Pages did not like - and stood by it. His last lover (probably Bosie) holds on to his last work, a celebration of their love. I doubt the book is De Prfundis given that in this universe Wilde did not have to go to prison at all.
Page sends you to retrieve this and you can a) beat the poor guy and take it b) deny the Master and champion love, thus losing Masters: connected or c) Pay Fate to forge a perfect copy, and keep them both happy.
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Harry P.
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3/10/2018
suinicide wrote:
GuesssWho wrote:
Just what happened to Oscar Wilde in this world? I've heard it was as tragic as his real-life fate. Did he go North or the like?


Mr Pages happened to him.


More specifically, Mr Pages took something of great importance to him. Oscar Wilde is better known as the Wilting Dandy, and you meet him while Ascending the Reliables list of Mr Pages. There, you are tasked with finding a book stolen from Mr Pages'library. You trace it to the Wilting Dandy and track down his address, where you are giving 2 choices.

[spoiler]I an relying on memory, so this may not be perfect. You can either take the book from him by force and bring it back to Mr Pages. This involves beating him with a chair until he lets go. Another option is let him keep the book. In which case, you learn that it formerly belonged to his lover and that it is all that he has left of him. Mr Pages is not pleased, but is willing to let you both go if you just copy the entire book down. Though he is very impatient and will frequently remind you why angering a Master was a bad idea in the first place.[/spoiler]
edited by Harry P. on 3/10/2018

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
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3/10/2018
It is what the Dandy claims. We cannot know if he was literally eaten, I am afraid.
Oh, and the dandy is definitely nicer than Bosie, which is why at first I thought it is some other lover of Wilde. Then I realized that with the Neath's more queer friendly morality, perhaps Bosie had less reason to be awful.

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Harry P.
Harry P.
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3/10/2018
Huh. I knew I was forgetting something. If I had remebered that the lover's name was the Epigrammatic Irishman, I would have realized that he was the Irishman Oscar Wilde.

Still, where did you hear about him being eaten by Mr Pages? I did not even know they ate humans in the first place. Beasts, sure but humans?

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a Nice Friend
a Nice Friend
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3/10/2018
It's been a long time since I played that story, so I don't remember any mention of famous poets being devoured (I certainly remember that he was killed), but I kind of do hope it happened because that's hilariously hardcore for Mr. Pages.

edit: Hilarifying
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Skinnyman
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3/5/2018
Cthonius wrote:
Feel like I've asked this a few months back but w/e; what's more efficient for gaining Tier 3 items, using the Soul Trade 1000 souls->Brilliant Souls or Thefts of a Particular Character (assuming of course I already have the investment of 7 Casing minimum, which it would never drop below) ?

Thefts require 32 casing (1.77 * 5 AP using gang) which are 8.88 AP plus one AP to convert casing to the item. This takes you to an average of 1.264 EPA which is better than relying on RNG for souls or any other items to convert.
If you got The Marriage of Feducci, the ending options offers a lovely grind which takes you to 1.529 EPA; 33.33 AP to get 500 Romantic Notions, for example and another to convert those to 105 Visions. This is the best Notability grind preparation grind that doesn't rely on cards at all.
[spoiler]The wedding must be successful to get RN, but forgot what's the other reward. Probably 3 Scrap of Incendiary Gossip.[/spoiler]

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Plynkes
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3/5/2018
It isn't really a story benefit, but it is a concrete one: The cheaper and easier method of gaining a Brass Embassy Sanctum five-card lodging (the one only available at Christmas) requires you to have sold your soul.

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Plynkes
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3/5/2018
I don't know anything about the storyline, how long or involved it is, or whether it is worth it or not. I got mine back without paying any Fate. It just sort of came back on its own, without me even going out looking for it, like a tomcat you don't see for a week who then turns up back at home looking pleased with himself and acting like he'd never been away.

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curtistruffle
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3/6/2018
Hello friends! I've decided not to create a separate thread and ask here: what do you usually do with your Certifiable Scrap stocks? I'm unsure if I shall grind for 3200 rewards, or collect 680 rewards, or stock Night Whispers for Neathmas or what. I'm not entirely about profitability, yet I consider it. All the rewards are just very abstract, I'm trying to imbue the choice with some RP or other reason.

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Plynkes
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3/5/2018
Does Empire's Kingmaker actually do anything, other than give you an idea how many times you've run through the box carousel? I mean are there any other stories or things that it is a prerequisite for, or that check for it or anything like that? One of the options at the end says something about it not reducing your Empire's Kingmaker, which to me seemed to imply that there are some things that will reduce it, and that you can spend it like we used to with Connected. But as far as I can see, none of the options use it up. Have I missed something?

Just an idle thought I had while watching it go seemingly pointlessly higher. smile

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Arensen
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3/10/2018
I'm pursuing a Fate-locked option to retrieve my Soul, and declared that the Quiet Deviless took it. The first few cards showed up within two decks, but I've been flipping opportunity cards in Spite for a day or so now, with "Looking For Your Soul" at 6, finding nothing. Is the card of comparable rarity to the previous ones, or am I just unlucky, or flipping cards in the wrong location?

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millea
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3/9/2018
When you talk to him in Flint, the Bishop says he takes his faces from the dead and the willing, explaining the first one is easy for a churchman to access and the other is "more common than you think".

I'm pretty sure it has also been implied somewhere that he's already changed face during the course of being a Bishop - but take this with a grain of salt, as I can't give you a concrete source.
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Amalgamate
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3/8/2018
evapillar wrote:
An acquaintance has invited me to a lethal sparring bout! I'm very excited, but it's a point of personal pride that I've never died. Luckily, I have a horsehead amulet. Am I correct in believing it will save me from death?


Yes

If so, is it unsporting to use an amulet in an interplayer duel?



No, the winner gets the same rewards regardless of whether the loser actually dies.

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