 maleclypse Posts: 259
2/27/2018
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Were there any other unique items than the Moth-Woven Greatcoat? Was that item available to all endings?
-- Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%.
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 Snowskeeper Posts: 575
2/27/2018
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Probably my favourite exceptional story barring Lost in Reflections.
[spoiler]S.F. brought the Scoundrel with them, allowed the Vandal to kill him, then killed the Vandal. They didn't betray the anarchist (though they were sorely tempted) or the constable, and were mildly disgusted by the Collector. They were motivated mostly by curiosity in this whole thing, as always, but for once their curiosity was more or less satisfied. They've transcribed and encrypted the Vandal's journal, and added it to their wall. In their version of events, the Collector's house probably ends up burning down in a tragic cake-baking-related incident. Why the Collector was in bed with a cake in the oven is a mystery that will, perhaps, never be solved.[/spoiler]
-- S.F., a midnight midnighter and invisible eminence. Impossible to locate them, personally, but there are dead drops and agents.
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 TimurMurtazin Posts: 19
2/27/2018
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[spoiler] My character decided to kill the vandal, but ooc I found that ending rather disappointing. One would have hoped the collector would actually have a good reason for killing them [/spoiler] :/ edited by TimurMurtazin on 2/27/2018
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 folklore364 Posts: 136
2/28/2018
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Ivica wrote:
Did anyone bring somebody else than Scorundel to meeting with Vandal? Insurgent or Cognoscente? I'm interested to read about this endings. I brought and echoed the results of bringing the Insurgent with you to the last meeting with the Vandal.
Any idea what the rewards are for various endings?
-- A correspondent who hungers for knowledge. May have doomed london to war with Hell. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/folklore364
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 Ereshkigal Posts: 1
3/2/2018
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folklore364 wrote:
Ivica wrote:
Did anyone bring somebody else than Scorundel to meeting with Vandal? Insurgent or Cognoscente? I'm interested to read about this endings. I brought and echoed the results of bringing the Insurgent with you to the last meeting with the Vandal.
Any idea what the rewards are for various endings?
i haven't brought anyone and got uncanny incunabulums
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 James Sinclair Posts: 253
3/5/2018
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This Exceptional Story was superb (and written by the creator of A House of Many Doors, no less!). I loved meeting all the bizarre and memorable characters, especially after their secret identities and motives were revealed. In the end, I [spoiler]took the Scoundrel to visit his daughter, and didn't feel particularly bad about stabbing him the back, since the text implies that he wants to force her to go with him to the zee "whether she wants to or not". The Vandal's suicidal decision to go to the Surface was sad, but understandable given her beliefs. As someone who has recently partaken of the Cider, I also enjoyed the chance to visit the Surface and see some sunlight.[/spoiler] This story was a dark reflection of "The Heart, the Devil, and the Zee", which for me was about people learning to make their own choices and free themselves from burdensome obligations. The equippable Moth-Eaten Greatcoat and the disturbing implications of the Vandal's journal were, as others have noted, particularly delicious. edited by James Sinclair on 3/5/2018
-- James Sinclair
Curator of the Sanguine Ribbon Society 🗡
A fully-fledged rêveur of The Night Circus.
Wines is red Spices is yellow But old Jack-of-Smiles Is a murderous fellow ☠
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 Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575
3/7/2018
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Part of me wants to put this ES among some of my favorite ES storylines. The mystery surrounding the Vandal was an interesting one that pulled on a few more heartstrings than expected, and the story up to that point already had be invested with silly and eccentric characters. I'm always a fan for tasty chunks of lore, and seeing how far the weirdness of the Neath and the forces around it is a main part of why I keep coming back to this game.
That said, the ending keeps me from calling this one of my favorites. To be honest, it nearly does the opposite. I'll fill in my reasoning in a spoiler tag, but it boils down to the ending for such a lovely story being disappointing if not infuriating, and that bad payoff paints the rest of the story in a bad light. Oh well, suppose I'll wait until the season's out to redo it. [spoiler]It's not that I'm expecting a "happy ending" out of all of this. A woman is determined that suicide is the only option to atone for her life and all the side characters have caused or wish to cause harm to her for their own purposes. Tragedy would be an understatement for this story's set-up, so it's not that the ending's sad that upsets me, but how we came to that conclusion. As someone who brought along the Vandal's dad, likes others have mentioned, how your actions will result in the ending are far too vague. Why do I HAVE to kill the Vandal or her father, assuming I don't just let them murder each other? The PC can wrestle zee beasts and capture spider councils alive, but I can't disarm the situation or subdue one party without killing one off? If, say, she held the blade to her throat and threatened suicide in front of her own dad were you or him to come closer, I could understand the situation being a one-or-the-other scenario. But this was a far simpler scene with a far simpler solution that didn't require such a final outcome. I was prepared to kidnap her kicking and screaming Cheesemonger-style if it meant she wouldn't kill herself over uncaring gods because she thought her birth was a sin. It's fine if I couldn't do such a thing (although I'd argue that itself could make for some good moral questions), I just wish the justification for why I couldn't was warranted.
This story also has a similar issue to that of the ES Steeped in Honey, where there is an evil character that has either done terrible things or continues to do said terrible acts, yet even when giving control in other parts of the story, we can't act where it matters and murder the SOB. I'm all for the Collector's shocking twist for collecting bodies of Neath oddities and wanting the Vandal stuffed, but assuming that I'd even let her near the body of someone I'd have given a limb to protect (I'm a snuffer sympathizer, after all), the sheer fact that I'd be present to see it would drive Marlen to permanently murder her right in that room if not do worse. There's no good reason in-character why an offended player (who is presumed to be horrified by this revelation they've unknowingly taken part in) couldn't add another homicide to the list, but unlike Steeped in Honey's fault in this department, the rest of this story's ending doesn't have the concrete quality to support it and the rest of the story's payoff.
If it seems I'm being too harsh, as I'm willing to admit, it's because the rest of the story was just that damn good. It would be one thing if an unsatisfying ending came from something on par with The Rubbery Murders or the Velocipede's Spinning of the Wheels, but this story was something of a gem up until this point, and it stings to see all that promise end up flat. I honesty look forward to the writer's later work for FL, because they have talent that clearly shows throughout their writing. I only hope that later works have better polished endings with tragedies that cause sympathy and loss rather than annoyance.[/spoiler] edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 3/7/2018
-- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft
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 Holden Posts: 22
3/26/2018
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Just finished up this E.S. Seemed rather on the short side, but the characters and story were charming and touching, so I'm overall quite pleased.
-- Ophelia Caldecott is probably burgling something from your lodgings as you read this.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
3/26/2018
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Part of me wants to put this ES among some of my favorite ES storylines. The mystery surrounding the Vandal was an interesting one that pulled on a few more heartstrings than expected, and the story up to that point already had be invested with silly and eccentric characters. I'm always a fan for tasty chunks of lore, and seeing how far the weirdness of the Neath and the forces around it is a main part of why I keep coming back to this game.
That said, the ending keeps me from calling this one of my favorites. To be honest, it nearly does the opposite. I'll fill in my reasoning in a spoiler tag, but it boils down to the ending for such a lovely story being disappointing if not infuriating, and that bad payoff paints the rest of the story in a bad light. Oh well, suppose I'll wait until the season's out to redo it. [spoiler]It's not that I'm expecting a "happy ending" out of all of this. A woman is determined that suicide is the only option to atone for her life and all the side characters have caused or wish to cause harm to her for their own purposes. Tragedy would be an understatement for this story's set-up, so it's not that the ending's sad that upsets me, but how we came to that conclusion. As someone who brought along the Vandal's dad, likes others have mentioned, how your actions will result in the ending are far too vague. Why do I HAVE to kill the Vandal or her father, assuming I don't just let them murder each other? The PC can wrestle zee beasts and capture spider councils alive, but I can't disarm the situation or subdue one party without killing one off? If, say, she held the blade to her throat and threatened suicide in front of her own dad were you or him to come closer, I could understand the situation being a one-or-the-other scenario. But this was a far simpler scene with a far simpler solution that didn't require such a final outcome. I was prepared to kidnap her kicking and screaming Cheesemonger-style if it meant she wouldn't kill herself over uncaring gods because she thought her birth was a sin. It's fine if I couldn't do such a thing (although I'd argue that itself could make for some good moral questions), I just wish the justification for why I couldn't was warranted.
This story also has a similar issue to that of the ES Steeped in Honey, where there is an evil character that has either done terrible things or continues to do said terrible acts, yet even when giving control in other parts of the story, we can't act where it matters and murder the SOB. I'm all for the Collector's shocking twist for collecting bodies of Neath oddities and wanting the Vandal stuffed, but assuming that I'd even let her near the body of someone I'd have given a limb to protect (I'm a snuffer sympathizer, after all), the sheer fact that I'd be present to see it would drive Marlen to permanently murder her right in that room if not do worse. There's no good reason in-character why an offended player (who is presumed to be horrified by this revelation they've unknowingly taken part in) couldn't add another homicide to the list, but unlike Steeped in Honey's fault in this department, the rest of this story's ending doesn't have the concrete quality to support it and the rest of the story's payoff.
If it seems I'm being too harsh, as I'm willing to admit, it's because the rest of the story was just that damn good. It would be one thing if an unsatisfying ending came from something on par with The Rubbery Murders or the Velocipede's Spinning of the Wheels, but this story was something of a gem up until this point, and it stings to see all that promise end up flat. I honesty look forward to the writer's later work for FL, because they have talent that clearly shows throughout their writing. I only hope that later works have better polished endings with tragedies that cause sympathy and loss rather than annoyance.[/spoiler] edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 3/7/2018
I chose not to take anyone with me when I finally tracked the Vandal down. Though I didn't realize at the time that I was eliminating many choices in doing so, my choice to take her on alone was consistent with my character and much less fraught than the other choices provided.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Rayhne Posts: 25
3/27/2018
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All I seem to be doing is feeding bats? What's going on?
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 PSGarak Posts: 834
3/27/2018
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Rayhne wrote:
All I seem to be doing is feeding bats? What's going on? That's the hub for the Season, which this ES is a part of. Try Veilgarden?
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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 Rayhne Posts: 25
3/27/2018
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PSGarak wrote:
Rayhne wrote:
All I seem to be doing is feeding bats? What's going on? That's the hub for the Season, which this ES is a part of. Try Veilgarden? Ahhhh ,,, there. Could have sworn I went to all the locations.
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 Skinnyman Posts: 2133
3/28/2018
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Don't forget to get this story in less than 21h if you didn't!
-- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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 Lallinka Posts: 138
3/28/2018
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This was a bitter sweet story, that I thoroughly enjoyed.
I like that I had plenty of interaction with the members of the Society, forming my own allegiances and opinions, it was all very well done. They each felt properly fleshed out - if simple - and I felt satisfied on that front.
I do wish we will have more happy endings in the future 
Thanks for the story, I am looking forward to the next one.
-- Lallinka is accepting any social interactions as soon as my actions allow it. No Loitering and no Photographer, please. Available for interviews about Nemesis and a Midnighter for Orphanages.
Ragish is accepting everything, including Loitering and Photographer. Available for interviews about Heart's Desire and a Crooked-cross for Salons.
Pienkava is freshly out of prison and will need charity to survive in the harsh streets of London. Have pity, she is only fifteen.
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 Waterpls Posts: 326
3/29/2018
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In my opinion story is fine, but too short. Not much revealed. At least in my route.
-- Long grinds: Heptagoat 100/180; Cider Done; Correspondence 21/21; Paramount 4/4.
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 Sinnouk Posts: 62
3/29/2018
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Curses. Forgot to go back to the Society and call another meeting in order to discuss the clues we found before the first meeting with the Vandal. Did anyone managed to echo any of it?
-- Theron Bidwell Urie: the Distrait Dabbler, hat-less unfortunate no more!
gronostaj wrote:
If the Implacable Detective Wins…
I go to jail! And you go to jail! And you go to jail, yes, you too! Everyone goes to jail!
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 Lorelai Posts: 59
4/5/2018
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Aw crap, I’ve been having some serious computer troubles this last month plus ive been super busy and I haven’t been able to check FL, but I never halted my subscription. There’s no way for me to play this now is there? My March payment was completely wasted?
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Mythlore
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 Meradine Heidenreich Posts: 468
4/5/2018
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Lorelai wrote:
Aw crap, I’ve been having some serious computer troubles this last month plus ive been super busy and I haven’t been able to check FL, but I never halted my subscription. There’s no way for me to play this now is there? My March payment was completely wasted?
Well, when they switched over to having a hub from which to unlock EF stories by season, I managed not to unlock a couple properly, and support were most understanding. I'd certainly drop them a note in hope and see if they are willing to help.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Meradine%20Heidenreich
The Starveling kit Gobbled up the bit of cheese on my tray .. "O Weh!"
No plant battles, please.
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 Lorelai Posts: 59
4/5/2018
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Meradine Heidenreich wrote:
Lorelai wrote:
Aw crap, I’ve been having some serious computer troubles this last month plus ive been super busy and I haven’t been able to check FL, but I never halted my subscription. There’s no way for me to play this now is there? My March payment was completely wasted?
Well, when they switched over to having a hub from which to unlock EF stories by season, I managed not to unlock a couple properly, and support were most understanding. I'd certainly drop them a note in hope and see if they are willing to help.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Mythlore
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 Lorelai Posts: 59
4/5/2018
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Lorelai wrote:
Meradine Heidenreich wrote:
Lorelai wrote:
Aw crap, I’ve been having some serious computer troubles this last month plus ive been super busy and I haven’t been able to check FL, but I never halted my subscription. There’s no way for me to play this now is there? My March payment was completely wasted?
Well, when they switched over to having a hub from which to unlock EF stories by season, I managed not to unlock a couple properly, and support were most understanding. I'd certainly drop them a note in hope and see if they are willing to help.
Support was kind enough to unlock it for me, I brought the scoundrel to his daughter and accompanied her to the surface
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Mythlore
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