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Absintheuse Posts: 348 12/11/2017	The Marriage of Feducci, a brand new festive Premium Story by Cash DeCuir, will become available 18th December! It is the first Royal Wedding since London fell: Mayor Feducci's proposal of marriage to the Captivating Princess has been accepted! Join the Beleaguered Wedding Planner in the Shuttered Palace to make or break this historic moment. The Marriage of Feducci will be available beginning the 18th of December for 40 Fate. Begin this story at The Wedding Announcement, which is open to all and available throughout London during the festive season. If you wish to purchase this story, continue through to The Marriage of Feducci storylet. Is one story not enough? Experience all our festive tales, like last year’s premium story The Empress’ Shadow by Emily Short, and The Gift by Chris Gardiner. These are available via Explore the Festive Season, available throughout London, for 35 and 30 Fate respectively.
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ProfessorDetective Posts: 50 12/11/2017	Aw, I had assumed THE PLAYERS courting the fair Princess would have been a storyline at some point. sips wine, sullenly Wait. 'Make OR BREAK this historic moment'? Ha. Ha! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! drains bottle gags slightly Walter! Be a good weasel and grab my cane. We're going gatecrashing! -- Contact: The Academic Investigator. Call ahead. Lodgings disorderly.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 12/11/2017	Fleshy shall be ecstatic. Those two really deserve one another. Perhaps he'll gift them matching chainsaws.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/11/2017	W. T. F. Also ... I offer to host the bachelorette party. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 12/11/2017	Also, YIKES! What is the thing in the bouquet? Some sort of unholy lovechild between a dragonfruit and the Sarlacc Pit?
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ValentinV Posts: 15 12/11/2017	T... The Captivating Princess? Oh dear me, I wonder if even Feducci isn't in over his head (because I assume he's not actually head over heels)...
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PSGarak Posts: 834 12/11/2017	I don't know what I was expecting, but it probably wasn't this. I gotta wonder... was this part of The Plan? Feducci's sudden interest in politics was out of character, and now we see him working to ascend the social ladder even further (and more permanently). This romance has been in the works since at least the Fruits of the Zee, which was only a month after the election. I'm not saying he's a gold-digger... Or perhaps it's the other way around. Maybe the Captivating Princess had already captivated his heart long ago, and Feducci realized that Mayorhood was his ticket to becoming sufficiently eligible that they could make their romance official! I choose to believe this despite the complete lack of evidence. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Akernis Posts: 255 12/11/2017	The Captivating Princess has a couple of appearances throughout Fallen London, most of which are in fate locked stories. She seems to be the premiere character for the Christmas stories as she has so far appeared (or will appear) in all three of them. [spoiler] - Her first (to my knowledge), and probably most infamous, appearance is in The Gift story released at Christmass two years ago, where she tries to feed you to her sister. All the royal children who stayed in London after the fall have - through red honey - become changed into horrible monsters. But feasting upon the potential of an exceptional person can reverse the process. Which hints that the Captivating Princess already went through this process herself since she is human again, at least in physiology if not sentiment. - Her next appearance is at the Feast of the Exceptional Rose, where you can spend a delightful honey dream with her. If you pass a fairly hard persuasive test she says that she enjoyed it and want to introduce you to red honey. - It is possible to invite her to your salon if you have the highest possible 'Engaged in a scheme: A Salon'. Which will have her spend an evening with you to the envy and respect of all your guests, which results in you getting a *** ton of Making Waves, enough for Notability 13 even without any RDB points. - In one of the Gloom Destinies you and her form a relationship as rulers over the darkness suffocated ruins of the Fifth City, building up a court of survivors to serve your every whim as the two of you hunt people in the dark for sport and pleasure. - At previous years Hallowmas you could get a confession from her telling how she was indirectly responsible for the death of her sister's husband, the Heir of Prussia, as she persuaded him to stay in the Neath for a while after a visit, upon which he died of sunlight shortly after he returned to the surface due to his long time in the Neath. - The next time we see her is second Christmas story which is more about her eldest sister, but where she make a short cameo. - Her latest appearance (until the coming story here) is to help you be reinstated to the Court after you have been Governor of Port Carnelian. [/spoiler] edited by Akernis on 12/11/2017 -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/12/2017	Yay, the Captivating Princess is going to eat the Mayor! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Barse Posts: 706 12/11/2017	Jesus Christ what have we done who let this man be a Royal? (Very exciting!) -- The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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dov Posts: 2580 12/11/2017	ProfessorDetective wrote: Wait. 'Make OR BREAK this historic moment'? Ha. Ha! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good catch! I haven't noticed that part of the announcement. I know what I'll be doing then. (unless the Captivating Princess intends to eat Feducci (not in that way), in which case I'll cheer her on.) -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Akernis Posts: 255 12/18/2017	reaperOscuroCore wrote: I am also glad that someone else balks at this sadly very capitalist attempt at wrestling more of my most precious fate from me. Why isn't this option already free, being an exceptional friend? Why must I spend more? I feel less exceptional and more foolish, truth be told. Because this isn't an Exceptional Story. You have already gotten your free story for December. This is another story that the writers and developers have taken some of their no doubt very precious free time to scramble together and create in addition to the normal stories, and the tie-in stories, and the other preparations for the holiday, and work on Sunless Skies. That we are getting another full length story for Christmas in addition to the Exceptional ones is for me very generous. Sure it is tradition by now, but that does not make it any less commendable of them. If you don't want to show your support for the extra work by getting and playing the story then you have no need to buy it. Demanding that you get it for free seem a little ungrateful to me. . edited by Akernis on 12/18/2017 -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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dov Posts: 2580 12/11/2017	ProfessorDetective wrote: I didn't even vote for the fellow. He had 'sketchy' written all over him. Let's start a mob, crash this farce of a ceremony, and kick his backside clean to the Republic! Or the Kanite! Whichever's farthest. Let's just make sure not to disrupt this too soon. I'm against this marriage, but the bachelor's party is bound to be Epic. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/12/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: Yay, the Captivating Princess is going to eat the Mayor! or he's gonna eat her. or they're going to eat each other (clears throat) not like that. anyway, what was i- right, on his portrait, feducci has these charming black eyes, just like the pelegin eyes that monster-hunters get from eating zee-monsters. and he did mention that black ribbon members used to hunt beasts. which he brought up over a dinner. (subtle) maybe he just needs a friendly reminder that it's supposed to be monster-slaying not monster-laying? -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 12/18/2017	Delicious friends! The Marriage of Feducci premium story is now live. Look for the story entitled A Wedding Announcement, available now throughout London. We hope you enjoy what is undoubtedly going to be one of Fallen London's most memorable social occasions. After all, isn't it a delight when two hearts come to beat in harmony? Or, lacking hearts, whatever heart-substitutes the individuals in question possess.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 12/18/2017	Okay, I'm going to be really harsh. This is why I loathe this particular writer's work. The endings always seem to lack an appropriate variety of choices, forcing the writer's particular moral viewpoint/personal preferences, and - in this case - I didn't just feel railroaded into one specific set of paths, but that my ENTIRE play-through of this story was absolutely pointless. There was no choice. There was no consequence to my actions. There was nothing. It seemed that no matter WHAT I unearthed, I was given NO choices or any form of impact on the final outcome, and - regardless of my choices/actions - the outcome of the marriage was absolutely set . . . making every action point bought and spent pointless. For this course of action thrust upon me -? No choice whether to object or not. No choice whether to sabotage or not. All my work for nought, as I watch the outcome play out as a hapless witness with no actual active part in the story . . . seriously, if my character hadn't been there, NOTHING would have been any different . . . it was all pointless. I'm just . . . I'm pissed. I feel insulted as a consumer. Why not just write a short story and publish it? Why charge me to play a game, only for nothing I do to have any impact and have no say and no interaction. Even visual novels have more input than this and some alternate endings. Did everyone else get the same as me? I'd imagine so, seeing as I literally had no other options open to me. It's just . . . infuriating. . . . Sigh, the mechanics/gameplay weren't even that unique, and not enough was really uncovered to say it added to lore or insight, and I'm just . . . I will never be buying any of this author's stories ever again, even if it means I don't get seasonal bonuses. I'm so done. (I imagine people will down-vote me, which is fair enough, but I'm really pissed by this)
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/20/2017	Hark DeGaul wrote: For those who want to know what happens if you tell both bride and groom you love them, I've Echoed it here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix?fromEchoId=13226613 thank you for biting the bullet for all of us who wanted to know what this option does. if it's any consolation, standing up and announcing in front of hundreds of people that you're hoping for a threesome with the royal pair is probably the bravest and most adventurous thing anyone in that cathedral has ever done. instigating revolution in hell doesn't hold a candle to this, and wanting to go to war with presbyterate while marrying the next prester is merely a pale contender -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 12/20/2017	gronostaj wrote: if it's any consolation, standing up and announcing in front of hundreds of people that you're hoping for a threesome with the royal pair is probably the bravest and most adventurous thing anyone in that cathedral has ever done. I need a shirt that reads 'I attempted a threesome with royalty and all I got was this lousy Night Whisper (and 10 levels of Scandal)' -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Passionario Posts: 777 12/18/2017	I finished the preparations, got moved to the Shuttered Palace, but there is no option to return to the Albion Wing for the finale. I can only assume that, in lieu of a wedding, the happy couple had a double-or-nothing drinking duel (since those are all the rage these days), died in each other's arms and got secretly buried together in a mirrorcatch tomb. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Hattington Posts: 210 12/18/2017	Omega8520 wrote: So, update on the failing. [spoiler] It turns out that, telling the couple about the "what (whoever) knows" options each raises the marriage failing quality by one without telling you. So if you go for completeness (as most people tend to), you are locked into the failing ending. [/spoiler] Honestly, I'm mostly disappointed at how the completionist ending cheered up the Veteran Privy Councilor. Watching that smug git cry himself raw throughout most of the wedding preparations was the upside of the whole thing for me. But yes, as other people have put more eloquently and more thoroughly: For an ES centered around London's most notorious yet popular agent of chaos and also Feducci, the whole thing was surprisingly...unsurprising. I was expecting monsters to burst out of the walls and attack the wedding guests! I was expecting immortal assassins and infernal intrigue you could actually participate in! But no, it's a by the numbers wedding. Or not one. Oh, and the action sink for drawing cards in order to unlock the completionist dialogue options is a savage kick in the teeth. I usually buy my Fate in sets of 100, and was down to 20 because I had no idea what the maximum possible knowing-about-the-relevant-parties'-shenanigans value was until the cards stopped showing up. -- The Dawnburnt Vake-Rider: https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Hattington
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a Nice Friend Posts: 127 12/12/2017	I only hope there will be tacky commemorative plates. -- Definitely a nice friend - http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/a%20nice%20friend
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/12/2017	PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. She's got her father's venom. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Reused NPC Posts: 259 12/11/2017	Oh boy. None of this will turn out well for Feducci OR the Captivating Princess and I think that's exactly how it should be. That said, will this story be available after the festive season? Via the Fate tab perhaps? -- ReusedNPC, a d__ned lunatic. Edmund Viric, a rather dreamy sort. "I won't stay long, I shan't stay long! Tell me a secret." --the Baldomerian
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rahv7 Posts: 294 12/11/2017	When Feducci was elected Mayor I tried to picture worst case scenarios ... but this most definitely wasn't on my list. The whole idea of those two marrying is just terrible for so many reasons ... but I can't wait for the story to be released -- It's possible people have forgotten that there is an actual devil in the actual Lord Mayor's office. A devil who is promising to look after people's souls. What is wrong with everybody? https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/rahv7
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Barse Posts: 706 12/11/2017	Vortigaunt wrote: This is somewhat off topic, but I don't suppose there's a sort of bibliography for all of the FL writers. I'm looking forward to this story, and I think Cash is one of my favorite writers at FBG, but I can't remember exactly remember which Exceptional Stories he wrote to be sure. edited by Vortigaunt on 12/11/2017 There's a more or less complete list here. edited by Barse on 12/11/2017 -- The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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PSGarak Posts: 834 12/12/2017	One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/12/2017	a Nice Friend wrote: I only hope there will be tacky commemorative plates. Oh, this is Feducci we're talking about. There will be at least seven of them. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/12/2017	vaguely wonders if the Captivating Princess found the honey-well and is going to try and drown Feducci in it -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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genesis Posts: 924 12/18/2017	I haven't played the story yet. I personally don't mind when there is little choice and am just as interested in the narrative as in the gamey-ness of it. It's nice when they are both present but, for me, it's not essential. For those reasons I suspect/hope my response will be more positive than what I've read so far. Having said that, I've noticed a recent trend with the stories that I am really not keen on and that I am guessing is in play here too. FBG have seemingly implemented some sort of "emphasis" mechanic so that not all quality changes are made visible. In addition they've gone really gung-ho on the use of hidden qualities. It's a valid design choice but to me it seems like a very bug step away from Alexis's original vision and one I, personally, am not keen on at all.... -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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Kylestien Posts: 749 12/18/2017	To add to that, I know that a ton of things cant be altered in london and whatnot, but I expect SOME things to happen. In any other game this would be a big game changing event. In real life sometimes a Royal Wedding is a big game changing event. In Fallen London, may tales revolve around love. Everything does to extent, from the plots of The Masters to the small couple. A Royal Wedding should shake the status quo, hit things up. Here, nothing happens. If it's true that there is only one way this thing can go, that is has no real effect on London despite it being two of the games most prolific characters, despite that love is THE key theme in the neath... to be honest the entire story premise not only overpromises and underdelivers, but sabotages a key component of the game. edited by Kylestien on 12/18/2017 -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 12/18/2017	Omega8520 wrote: So, update on the failing. [spoiler] It turns out that, telling the couple about the "what (whoever) knows" options each raises the marriage failing quality by one without telling you. So if you go for completeness (as most people tend to), you are locked into the failing ending. [/spoiler] Considering that a lot of us are crazy and like completing options, in a way that is even worse. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/17/2017	Sajach wrote: Six Handed Merchant wrote: If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 Hard to say on, one hand she's going to try very hard to kill him, on the other hand we have all tried killing him and it doesn't really stick. So its an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. I can't wait to see what happens. [spoiler] Perhaps the Captivating Princess is counting on Feducci's immortality to enable her to feed him to all her siblings.[/spoiler] edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/17/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 12/20/2017	For those who want to know what happens if you tell both bride and groom you love them, I've Echoed it here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix?fromEchoId=13226613 I'd be interested to know if anyone has successfully ended the wedding through objecting instead of sabotage as, for obvious reasons, this did not happen for Hebediah. edited by Hark DeGaul on 12/20/2017 -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Kylestien Posts: 749 12/19/2017	Kukapetal wrote: So do these two actually love one another or are they both implied to be using the other for some sort of personal/political gain? I haven't started the story yet and their reasons for marrying will play a big part in whether Fleshy decides to ruin things or not. Long and short of it is: [spoiler]Both of those outcomes.They genuinely love each other it seems, and if you ask them both privately it's clear they are both in love, but they are also planning their own scheme and plans that conincide and conflict, because, you know, they are both monsters.[/spoiler] edited by Kylestien on 12/19/2017 -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Indigo Clardmond Posts: 60 12/19/2017	Just finished the story myself and could describe the experience as...understatedly pleasant. I thought the writing was wonderfully evocative of how a wedding, royal or not, is such a whirlwind of trivialities, personalities and piling up motivations, almost without addressing the actual couple at all. At least this has been the case at the many weddings I've been a part of on the Surface. While I do not particularly hold either the Captivating Princess or Feducci in high regard as people, I feel they do rather compliment each other rather well and could definitely see why a genuine attraction could occur between them...in addition to the mutual ulterior motives behind such a match. I therefore didn't really see much reason to disrupt the proceedings, even while learning more and more from each of the other characters present. Which brings me to the mechanics of how the ending manifests. Thankfully, upon reading this thread, I discovered that there was previously no indication of whether anything you did would affect the outcome, whereas now they are all clearly labelled...though I found there was no such warning on letting the Veteran Privy Counsellor interrupt the ceremony. A mistake, or is he really just that ineffectual? I wouldn't know as I quieted him down, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me. But I digress. Without the labels, I probably would have been just as irritated as many who came before me and were locked onto one single path without realising. Part of what makes narrative gameplay with consequences effective is that you can tell what choices have consequences and therefore decide your choices accordingly. In this instance, with the labels added, I found it actually really evoked a real wedding experience: how much do you allow drama to occur/how much 'honesty' do you give to the bride or groom vs how much do you step back and focus on helping the wedding itself? To take an example from one of my surface weddings, you know telling the bride that you just overheard her father talking about the guns he keeps in his home, when he's been telling her he doesn't have any due to her being afraid of being in said home if there are any, could ruin the wedding with the drama and fallout between them. But you sort of want to tell her anyway. Maybe because you feel morally obligated to. More likely because you really want to see what happens when that lie is revealed and what her reaction will be. Approaching Feducci or the Princess and thinking you'll tell them about the Veteran Privy Counsellor's desperate affections for a laugh all of the sudden makes you stop and think when you're reminded that yes, saying such things right before the ceremony can actually badly effect it. This was how I understood the mechanics of this wedding to work. Allowing disruption to happen will help us learn more of that juicy 'lore' and satisfy our need for something 'big' to go down, but at the cost of ruining the wedding. And as I understand it, pursuing said options really don't give you much more satisfaction in either regard than if you simply helped it along. I got Feducci's motivations from his best man and others beforehand, and thus didn't need to confront him with it. It quietly answered a few of my suspicions. The Captivating Princess' motivations didn't really surprise me in the least, though I feel like she perhaps slightly surprised herself with how much she'd fallen for Feducci. While neither of them would be reasons I'd personally pursue a relationship, I couldn't honestly fault them for it and thought yes, they do in fact compliment each other rather well. And then during the ceremony, by helping it along, specifically by hushing Virginia, I actually was shown something I hadn't picked up on before regarding her motivations in this affair. I felt kind of silly for not considering it myself beforehand. The reception and aftermath were fun to witness in light of said choices and there was not much left over from this endeavour save for a constantly available option of some romantic notions. So in terms of gameplay, nothing very special is changed or given as part of this story. Lore wise, a couple of things are revealed, but that you could almost infer from other sources. Really, the meat of it is just the experience of being part of the wedding, the scenery and preparations and the palace and characters in the situation the writing evokes, and your personal feelings on wanting the wedding to succeed or not. Which is pretty much how it was set up to begin with, in my opinion. Consequential summary for Failbetter, since I know you like your consequences: Little feeling of wider consequence as it's either they get married or they don't, for whatever reason, and nothing much seems to happen as a result. Great feeling of personal consequence within the story, as in choosing what to pursue when knowing the risk to the whole ceremony. Perhaps slightly dimmed if you've set out to ruin it from the beginning, unlike me. -- Indigo Clardmond - A kind-hearted Notary that is also a member of the C.V.R. And good friend to the Rubberies. And close to the Urchins. A gentleman of many talents. He is most definitely not secretly an imp of an existential nature. That would just be silly. Vazio Solus - A broken, bitter Correspondent with a sick relationship to the Truth. Defiant to all, even in the end, as the Gate was opened. The Luminous Orphan - A dazzling young Doctor of legendary charisma, weaving powerful Celestial imagery while she studies the form...'a star' would certainly be an appropriate way to describe her.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 12/19/2017	Indigo Clardmond wrote: Thankfully, upon reading this thread, I discovered that there was previously no indication of whether anything you did would affect the outcome, whereas now they are all clearly labelled...though I found there was no such warning on letting the Veteran Privy Counsellor interrupt the ceremony. A mistake, or is he really just that ineffectual? I wouldn't know as I quieted him down, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me. I didn't see a quality change for letting him (try) to interrupt, unlike with the other options, so it seems he's just that irrelevant. Jolanda Swan wrote: By the way, I do not get the complaints stating that our choices do not matter and nothing changes. I see the very opposite at work. In one version, the Princess is wed, Feducci is consort... in the other, nothing changes. There are two different universes at work here. I cannot fathom how it will work for those who did not play the story. What is the truth in the main game? I think those complaints come from before the warnings were added. People tried to prevent interruptions during the wedding, but told the spouses-to-be about the other parties' comments without knowing this would cause problems. Then the wedding was called off despite the player's (intended) best efforts, and it seemed like failure was inevitable. Hark DeGaul wrote: Out of interest has anyone attempted sabotaging just one side of the wedding? I'd be interested in seeing if it has a different effect on the flavour text but I'm also a sucker for weddings so I'm having real trouble committing to sabotage of any kind! There's no qualities set for sabotaging one side or another, so I doubt it. Passionario wrote: Has anyone chosen and echoed the options marked as Clearly Unwise, Not Beneficial and Harmful to No One But Yourself? I don't have an echo for it, but confessing your love to both apparently gets you thrown out and your Scandal increased to 8. Waterpls wrote: What are the rewards? An Enigma if the wedding fails and a Primeval Hint if it succeeds. Either way you get a pinned storylet in London. Not sure what it gives if the wedding fails; if it succeeded, it gives 15 Romantic Notions. Underwhelming, but at least a good source of a difficult-to-grind item. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 12/21/2017	Characterization, at the forefront, was such an important factor to this story. Despite barely seeing the royal couple throughout the story (which can also be considered a negative, mind you), I felt that I more or less understood their stance on the marriage along with all the intrigue and motivations surrounding them from side characters worthy of some spotlight. Also, something I've noticed from Cash's stories is that they know how to humanize a character and manipulate your decisions, even when involving characters you don't like. I have a love/hate relationship with Feducci and his revolutionary bravado, and I'm just as likely to root for the Captivating Princess as I am to laugh when her plans come crashing down (I'm still not over that kidnapping from the Gift, btw). Yet here, we got to see a bit more into their personalities and personal lives. We got to see the plausibility of Feducci having the moral high ground of all things, not to mention the devilless's oddly admirable values on the matter, for wanting to distribute life and wellness equally among the people in a revolution where no one has to die. The genuine love between these two monsters, for what short amount we got to see, seemed touching for two people who might start a war out of boredom. Even without the practical benefits of their marriage for everyone else, I still found myself wanting to see these malicious lovebirds together in the end. And the Privy Counsellour, despite my hate for the man, felt so human! We saw him struggle with his feelings of love, rationalize with himself on sides of the choice to intervene or not, and faced with a decision to make his opinion known for a futile attempt at changing the situation and failing even to do that. Not once did I want him to succeed or have a "happy ending", but I consider it a success if you make me empathize with a character I'd sooner throw out a window than talk to. As for the negative, well, most of it has been made clear by others. Even with the clarification to the choices presented to the player, it felt upsetting to know that my work up to that point with all the side characters amounted to nothing since I had to avoid mentioning their storylines to Feducci or the Princess for them to be together. You have the option to speak up or not, but when you can skip a fair portion of the story's important interaction/lore and still get your ideal result, there's an issue with the game design. Granted, the outcomes boil down to the wedding being broken off or going as planned, so it's difficult to have a middleground outcome between the two. Ideally, we would have spent this time going through the side stories alongside the general planning for the wedding and then be presented with options based on those storylines while meeting with the bride and groom so that you could manipulate their opinion of the marriage for the better or worse; holding your tongue, lying, manipulating the information, giving your advice, or just telling the truth could all have been options so long as they were an active decision on your part with a clearly differing outcomes based on your choice. If the cards were to be kept as the mode of access for these storylines instead of just presenting them to the player upfront, then they could be placed as markers required to end each day of preparations for the story before you succeed, though I'd recommend a higher chance of appearing in the deck so as not to annoy players with story content hidden behind optional opportunities. Another disappointment comes from the disconnect from the story and its highlighted couple. Not only did we not get to interact with two of the main characters of the story until the very end (and even that was scarce), but it was also a letdown to know that related items/qualities to the story were not an option to use. Whether when meeting the couple or going about your daily preparations, it would have been nice to use related content that would be relevant to the groom (Feducci's lance, his certificate, the A Fearsome Duelist quality, membership to the Dilmun Club) or the bride (Indulging in Unusual Pleasures aka having tasted red honey, an Acquaintance with the Captivating Princess, Renown: Society, The Gift). These could have been used when talking to the main cast or simply going about your daily business. How cool would it have been to relate the scratching in the walls to your experiences in The Gift, or to comment on your past connections to the Princess depending on your ending of that storyline? What if we got to look further into the affairs of the Dilmun Club by observing political happenings during the event or pressing Feducci into explaining how his plans fit into theirs? Heck, something as simple as bringing up your own possible Committed quality if you're in a relationship or pulling out a Memento of Passion due to their relation with love could have been a nice tie-in to the regular story and the character as a person. It could have played a small part in deciding if the marriage succeeds or fails, but could have been a simple flavor text calling back to the player's history, so I felt that the story missed out on a lot of potential interaction with the story. As a sidenote, on the topic of disappointing, it kinda sucked that the reward was an average 62.5-priced item when the past Fate stories during the holidays involved either an item unique to the story itself or the potential for rarer 62.5-priced items depending on your ending. It's not necessary a gripe with the story, since it was more of an expectation than a failing or a guarantee on Cash's part, but it was discouraging nonetheless. After finishing the story with a successful marriage and mulling over it and this thread, I think the overall experience was good but disappointing. Not bad, mind you, though I can understand where everyone draws their issues, but certainly not excellent either. Despite my complaints so far, I want to make it a point that Cash has worked on some of my favorite stories for FL, so I don't want to come across as bashing on the guy for no good reason. I think he's worked well at manipulating my feelings in a storyline and has a wonderful way with words, I just wish this story could have been better because I know he's capable of it and to see untapped potential in a story is always disheartening. For what it's worth, though, the story on dangerous love and political intrigue was enjoyable in of itself and the story overall earns a positive opinion on my part. Not as high of one as I would have liked, but a positive ranking nonetheless. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 12/21/2017 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 12/18/2017	Depending on the player's choices, they can enable or sabotage the wedding. We've added some guidance to make it a bit clearer when your decisions are affecting the finale.
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Alice Lutwidge Posts: 43 12/18/2017	Robin Alexander wrote: because there is no indication any such quality is being raised or would be raised, and - personally speaking, anyway - the implication seemed to be that the final choice would come sometime during the ceremony itself. Yeah, I was under the impression we could choose to object or something during the ceremony, not that our actions in the final stages of planning would doom it prematurely--and so subtly, at that. For the first time in my years of playing, I'm seriously considering asking for a refund on the Fate I spent today on the story and action refreshes, in order to start over. Because this reminds me of the backlash regarding the Last Constable and the Cheery Man, except... that was a free story, and this is something we all paid for. I feel the consequences of certain actions should have been made more obvious, and especially not hide the resulting quality so we remain entirely oblivious. -- Professor Alice Lutwidge Poet-Laureate, Correspondent, Legendary Charisma
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Siankan Posts: 1048 12/11/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Those two really deserve one another. I'm not sure that's ever been stated more truly. -- Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/22/2017	i'm still disappointed that there was no option to challenge feducci to a duel for the princess' hand, and therefore huffam will never have the pleasure of printing out this iconic headline -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/22/2017	Do I understand correctly that is some Londons, such as mine, Feducci and the Captivating Princess are not married and in some Londons they are married? -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Siankan Posts: 1048 12/11/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Also, YIKES! What is the thing in the bouquet? Some sort of unholy lovechild between a dragonfruit and the Sarlacc Pit? That is entirely likely. -- Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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Akernis Posts: 255 12/11/2017	dov wrote: ProfessorDetective wrote: Wait. 'Make OR BREAK this historic moment'? Ha. Ha! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good catch! I haven't noticed that part of the announcement. I know what I'll be doing then. (unless the Captivating Princess intends to eat Feducci (not in that way), in which case I'll cheer her on.) Hear, hear. I am going to break that moment like nothing I have ever broken before (and believe me, that is a rather extensive list). The Princess is far too good (or evil, take your pick) for Feducci. As a character whose strongest desire is to be with the Captivating Princess this is going to be an ugly event for him. I don't care if I voted him into office, I am going to be thrilled to ruin this for him. I can't wait -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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phryne Posts: 1348 12/11/2017	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: W. T. F. My reaction exactly. -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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ProfessorDetective Posts: 50 12/11/2017	dov wrote: ProfessorDetective wrote: I didn't even vote for the fellow. He had 'sketchy' written all over him. Let's start a mob, crash this farce of a ceremony, and kick his backside clean to the Republic! Or the Kanite! Whichever's farthest. Let's just make sure not to disrupt this too soon. I'm against this marriage, but the bachelor's party is bound to be Epic. I was thinking we would wait until the 'Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace' line and then burst in, Firearms, Blades, Umbrellas, Watches, Tomes, Candies, Mines, etc. etc. etc. drawn! You know, of the old school. -- Contact: The Academic Investigator. Call ahead. Lodgings disorderly.
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Lady Karnstein Posts: 278 12/13/2017	There are worse ways to go... -- Lady Caroline Karnstein, The Moral Hedonist (Description) Infamous writer, artist, and courtesan. Unrepentant Invert. Hesperidean. Paramount Presence, Correspondent, Nocturnal. Poet Laureate of the Neath, Ambassador to Arbor
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Lady Karnstein Posts: 278 12/12/2017	Kalamari wrote: Well, I'm bloody livid, given I ship Feducci and Jenny, but ah well, I'm happy for best mayor regardless! This sentence is the most horrifying thing I have read in Fallen London. Edit: The above is not intended as a jab at the poster. edited by Lady Karnstein on 12/12/2017 -- Lady Caroline Karnstein, The Moral Hedonist (Description) Infamous writer, artist, and courtesan. Unrepentant Invert. Hesperidean. Paramount Presence, Correspondent, Nocturnal. Poet Laureate of the Neath, Ambassador to Arbor
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/18/2017	I think Failbetter tends to go gung-ho on something whenever they come up with a new idea :P They should settle down with it soon (TM Failbetter games) -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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The Turkish Storyteller Posts: 9 12/18/2017	Oh dear Lord. A Presbyterate spy -- not only mayor, but royalty?! ...no, this will not stand. Somebody fetch me some coffee. There is work to be done.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 12/21/2017	This was an ok little story, but not the longest narrative arc. Really, unless you felt a need to disrupt the wedding plans a great deal of the storylets weren't much to pursue, though it is interesting to encounter Baseborn and Fowlingpiece. And to see Virginia again. (And typically uninteresting to watch the Veteran Privy Counsellor moon around about everything, as usual.) Their stories never ran very deep, though. I didn't learn much about B&F besides that their defining characteristic is apparently being roaring drunk at all hours. Feducci and the Captivating Princess are two of the most luridly fascinating and mysterious characters Failbetter ever created and we don't get much more about them. So while a wedding of rogues and monsters is in itself a fascinating idea, there isn't nearly as much meat on the bones of the story as I would've hoped. Also.. this story was a bit odd in that it allows you to potentially influence the course of events in Fallen London in a huge way... by just doing nothing. In general when you do something Exceptional in Fallen London, it's more along the lines of saving the city in some strange way no one will ever know about, doing some favor for (or disservice to) a terrifying and powerful entity operating in the shadows, embarking on a spooky expedition for forbidden knowledge that is enriching to the player but may never be shared with the NPC public, and so on. The player and their relationship to figures in the Neath are changed, but the Neath itself never changes. In this case, we're seeing a potentially enormous political alliance fall into place, but it's then just put on indefinite hold. The couple will likely be newlyweds still five years from now, despite that the choices a player makes have the potential to radically altering the game world (or more to the point chooses not to make; if you manage to disrupt the wedding everything goes back to normal); and this potentially creates a situation where players are playing very different versions of London based on the choices they made here, which is unusual and potentially awkward... the only way to avoid that awkwardness is for Failbetter to sit on the plot point forever and never advance this story arc. So while some players have complained that they were a bit surprised by the effects of their choices and compared that to Family and Law, I'd compare the two stories in another way; it's unusual when you can greatly alter the lives of characters who exist in many separate story arcs. For example, I follow Ambition Nemesis, and I've offed a good number of folks along my vigilante crusade, but the people I could kill off only existed for the purposes of that story, so the Neath as a whole remained unaltered; only I was changed by my knowledge and experiences. In the conclusion of Family and Law I could make decisions that lead to the death of the Cheery Man, who is a significant figure in a number of Fallen London plot arcs; that creates a noticeable hole in Fallen London, which isn't really filled by any other character or mechanism - it wasn't like the Cheery Man got a Trusted Lieutenant to swing in from the wings and take over being the new Cheery Man in a clean succession of power, or you used a snuffer assasin to take his place and give you a new contact in the underworld who appears to be the same contact in the underworld. Instead... just gone. In this case, depending on your choices, Feducci is now suddenly a nob and he and the Princess are making invasion plans for a conflict that can't transpire without making major narative changes to Fallen London/Sunless Sea (Sunless Skies is very much its own animal given that some major changes to the cosmology have already happened there). So in the end here there is a strange and vaguely unsatisfying feeling that the game world has been very much altered in apparent and public ways, but nothing is really going to happen "for now". It's a very different feeling than all the things we do in the shadows. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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Blaine Davidson Posts: 388 12/19/2017	As always I'm very glad that I take my time with these stories as it seems that by the time I get anywhere all the bugs and problems have magically been fixed. Thank you to everyone who rushes through so that my experience isn't tarnished. -- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/19/2017	Yes. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 12/23/2017	I have another question. What is Feducci wearing, that has to be fastened around the back, shoulders and knees? -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/18/2017	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Sajach wrote: Six Handed Merchant wrote: If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 Hard to say on, one hand she's going to try very hard to kill him, on the other hand we have all tried killing him and it doesn't really stick. So its an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. I can't wait to see what happens. [spoiler] Perhaps the Captivating Princess is counting on Feducci's immortality to enable her to feed him to all her siblings.[/spoiler] edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/17/2017 I wish I could say that I find your theory implausible.... -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Omega8520 Posts: 102 12/18/2017	The story is good, although I felt the ending I went for [spoiler]let the marriage fall through EDIT: Although finding out that there's only one ending no matter what you do (letting the wedding continue leads to exactly the same thing) is rather irritating, and very much lowers the quality of the story in my eyes[/spoiler] was a little lackluster, and there didn't really seem to be much in the way of permanent effects, apart from one storylet in the palace. So, in conclusion, excellent writing, but not quite as good as the Gift or the Empresses' Shadow. Still, a good story overall. edited by Omega8520 on 12/18/2017 edited by Omega8520 on 12/18/2017 edited by Omega8520 on 12/18/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Omega8520 A Correspondent of measure and restraint, not-withstanding a tendancy to rush into things. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Menacing%20Seeker Northwards with Noman. At least they'll have company.
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Sajach Posts: 77 12/17/2017	Six Handed Merchant wrote: If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 Hard to say on, one hand she's going to try very hard to kill him, on the other hand we have all tried killing him and it doesn't really stick. So its an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. I can't wait to see what happens. edited by Sajach on 12/17/2017 -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Sajach
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Spitfire Youngster Posts: 32 12/11/2017	Dudebro Pyro wrote: Alright, this will sound idiotic, but I have absolutely no memory of what the Captivating Princess actually, you know, does. I've accepted her as a well-known character, but now that I think about it, I can only remember hearing about her as a well-known character, and I can't for the life of me remember why she would be well-known. edited by Dudebro Pyro on 12/11/2017 [spoiler]For one, she indulges Red Honey. She also takes full advantage of the Liberation of Night in the Gloom Destiny, killing her guards and looters alike. I think it's also hinted that not only her mind is warped. You become her companion/rival/nemesis, since you only fear each other. It's been mentioned that many of those who try to court her end up trying to take their life. She also reintroduces you to the Court after you complete enough terms as a Governor of Port Carnelian. While Feducci does horrible things both for sport and to further his agenda, whatever it might be, Captivating Princess does them only for her personal pleasure[/spoiler] edited by Spitfire Youngster on 12/11/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Spitfire%20Youngster Professional troublemaker, not a single regret since [REDACTED]
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Jermaine Vendredi Posts: 588 12/13/2017	Thanks to the two people who kindly helped to dispel my memory fog regarding the princess. -- No plant battles, please. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Jermion
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Ixc Posts: 365 12/13/2017	Ah. I thought since the beginning of his term that Feducci was planning on killing the Royal family. Marrying one of their members definitely did not cross my mind. ... I wish Feducci would just stick to killing all of them. Stick to stabbing people with swords, Feducci, not... Other things. -- Pleased to meet you. Ixc, spy and detective. Inventor of the Correspondence Cannon. Are you a Paramount Presence? Record your name here. For posterity, of course. Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
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Kaijyuu Posts: 1047 12/11/2017	We've two incredibly evil karma houdinis being put together. Will the Unstoppable Force or Immovable Object win? -- Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/11/2017	just think of the wedding night. in fact, think about there being no sign that the captivating princess' soon-to-be-husband is at all alive in the post-liberation appetite destiny you can share with her....- edit: but if he's alive then that's fine too. a family can be two grotesque monstrosities and an immortal duelist hunting each other in the darkness because there's nothing else left to hunt edited by gronostaj on 12/11/2017 -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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ProfessorDetective Posts: 50 12/11/2017	Akernis wrote: dov wrote: ProfessorDetective wrote: Wait. 'Make OR BREAK this historic moment'? Ha. Ha! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Good catch! I haven't noticed that part of the announcement. I know what I'll be doing then. (unless the Captivating Princess intends to eat Feducci (not in that way), in which case I'll cheer her on.) Hear, hear. I am going to break that moment like nothing I have ever broken before (and believe me, that is a rather extensive list). The Princess is far too good (or evil, take your pick) for Feducci. As a character whose strongest desire is to be with the Captivating Princess this is going to be an ugly event for him. I don't care if I voted him into office, I am going to be thrilled to ruin this for him. I can't wait I didn't even vote for the fellow. He had 'sketchy' written all over him. Let's start a mob, crash this farce of a ceremony, and kick his backside clean to the Republic! Or the Kanite! Whichever's farthest. -- Contact: The Academic Investigator. Call ahead. Lodgings disorderly.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 1/9/2018	Anne, thanks for collecting all Airs. Even though I was playing the story for two days straight, I had missed one or two - the cat and rat truce, the excitement of the housekeeper. Lovely! By the way, I played it on the first day it came out, had a great Neathmass after that, and I find myself still a bit unsettled by not knowing if Feducci is simply a mayor, soon to fade into the background in a few months, or our new prince. I hope the discrepancy will be addressed soon in a story, as it comes up any time I am having ANY interaction with him in-game. You know, I was thinking that many people complain that the Neath never changes no matter what you do, and I always found that complaint weird: this is not a video game which requires and ending, and new people jump in every day, so you cannot really have a linear progression; you can only add and expand content. More NPCs, more locations. Some stories like the Cheesemonger or the pianist and the spirifer have a beginning and an end, but how would major changes work in the setting? This story here is a prime example of why asking for changes is kind of asking the impossible. I would love to hear any suggestions of why I might be wrong (I do study games, but I am no game designer). edited by Jolanda Swan on 1/9/2018 -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 1/8/2018	dov wrote: So, I'm finally playing this story and I'm at the "speak now or forever hold your peace" part. If I choose the option to give a reason they should not be wed, can I "perhaps not" if I don't like any of the reasons presented? You can back out if you don't select a reason, and even if you do select a reason you need a certain number before the wedding is sufficiently disrupted (I believe two). If you've disrupted the wedding to the point they won't marry you can still have the characters marry by [spoiler]declaring your love for both of them, which will end the story immediately without the option to play the after party, give you around 40cp of scandal and send you to the tomb-colonies (like it did to me!)[/spoiler] but if you're planning on disrupting you probably don't want them married anyway. I would not recommend suggesting a threesome with the mayor and the princess. I did it to spare the rest of you! -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Lady Karnstein Posts: 278 12/22/2017	Correct. -- Lady Caroline Karnstein, The Moral Hedonist (Description) Infamous writer, artist, and courtesan. Unrepentant Invert. Hesperidean. Paramount Presence, Correspondent, Nocturnal. Poet Laureate of the Neath, Ambassador to Arbor
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Gul al-Ahlaam Posts: 225 12/26/2017	I just wanted to let you know how much I loved this story! I love how Feducci and the Princess are written, they seem so happy together! It was super well mechanically designed and all the characters were fun, of course (this is Fallen London, and Cash more specifically, we're talking about) but I just adore the royal couple! I got so happy when they had their big kiss!!! ^o^ I love weddings! Also, literally every reason I had for voting for Feducci was completely justified by the story, which I was not for a second expecting. Everything about this is like... my ideal set of outcomes and circumstances. And there was a lovely moment where it's shown that B_______ has graduated to more adult ways of playing with dolls, which I thought was adorable. The Royal Children are the greatest. Anyway enough gushing, Merry Christmas, you're all delightful! ^_^ -- The Uncanny Hierophant. The Jewel-Eyed Prince.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/26/2017	Despite my split-history grouching about this story, I had a delightfully fun time with it! I thought the mechanics were just about perfect: it was grindy (as wedding preparations are), but not too grindy … and the grind was ameliorated by being a source of useful but not-too-common goods. The no-limit opportunity cards were an engaging diversion from the grind as well. Narratively, I enjoyed the little behind-the-scenes glimpses of Palace life, especially how some of them subtly tied into other stories. It was also good to see Baseborn and Fowlingpiece in action. And overall I felt like I received a good amount of text for the Fate I spent. Thank you FBG! -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Nero Keller Posts: 45 12/11/2017	In response to this announcement, I've decided to pay Feducci a visit by way of killing him with his own lance (replica) in the Forgotten Quarter. Unfortunately, there's no similar way to offer the Captivating Princess my regards. As for the wedding proper, we'll see how it goes. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Archbishop%20Nero%20Keller - Nero Keller, Monster Hunter of a notoriously small stature and absurdly high Dangerous. Paramount Presence, Archbishop, highly Renowned, incredibly ascetic.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/11/2017	Oh my. I cannot wait for that story. I will buy it and then agonize over the choices until I have it entirely spoilt in the forums, as I do, before commiting to anything. But to whomever thought of anything so insane - Kudos. The Empress' Shadow was a great story, and I am looking forward to what follows in its steps. I am really curious as to how the writers addressed the "feducci is not royalty" issue, by the way. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Harlocke Posts: 506 12/11/2017	For all we know, he may be some Elder Continent prince. -- I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Harlocke
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Siankan Posts: 1048 12/11/2017	dov wrote: I'm against this marriage, but the bachelor's party is bound to be Epic. No time like the present to discuss pertinent matters. How many Echoes is your property insured for? Also, does anyone else find this appropriate (accidental, probably, but oh, so appropriate) to be announced on the day we get [redacted] from the Advent Calendar? -- Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 12/11/2017	Remembering myself of The Gift's great(est) part (to do or not to) I'm starting to think how our beloved Mayor may fit in (side). -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 12/11/2017	I'm very concerned. Specifically, I'm concerned that no future story will ever compare. ProfessorDetective wrote: dov wrote: ProfessorDetective wrote: I didn't even vote for the fellow. He had 'sketchy' written all over him. Let's start a mob, crash this farce of a ceremony, and kick his backside clean to the Republic! Or the Kanite! Whichever's farthest. Let's just make sure not to disrupt this too soon. I'm against this marriage, but the bachelor's party is bound to be Epic. I was thinking we would wait until the 'Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace' line and then burst in, Firearms, Blades, Umbrellas, Watches, Tomes, Candies, Mines, etc. etc. etc. drawn! You know, of the old school. Clearly you should use his own festive armoury against him! -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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genesis Posts: 924 12/12/2017	Siankan wrote: MidnightVoyager wrote: Children born to her relatives are still royal children. They're nieces, nephews. Do we have text, or just speculation? It says that in the very storylet where you are commissioned -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/12/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Also, YIKES! What is the thing in the bouquet? Some sort of unholy lovechild between a dragonfruit and the Sarlacc Pit? it's a carnivorous fly-trap. i've seen something similar a flower shop just, uh. less teeth (run, feducci, run). i'm more interested in what's that long piece of lace wrapped around it and entwining with the bandage.... it looks like.... a garter? scandalous -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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GSonderling Posts: 6 12/13/2017	A movement, on subject we have hoped there will be no movement. Inquiries will have to be made, dignitaries in the Palace ought to have told me, not to mention the anarchists and those fellows from the Ribbon. One way or another, someone will get proper bashing for this. And Cathedral should get reinforced gate.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/13/2017	Will nobody think of the tailors? -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/12/2017	PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. This keeps getting better and better. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/11/2017	Dudebro Pyro wrote: Alright, this will sound idiotic, but I have absolutely no memory of what the Captivating Princess actually, you know, does. in ambition:nemesis it's revealed that [spoiler]her hunger for red honey is sated by having a garden of caged prisoners who are used as living hives. the bees crawl inside their skulls, gathering the "pollen" of memories from their brains as they would from a flower. pleasant.[/spoiler] -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Daedalus_Falk Posts: 234 12/12/2017	A masked death-duellist courts a feral, flesh-eating princess? I ship it. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daedalus_Falk ---- For I was hungry, and you gave me rats. I was thirsty, and you gave me rats. I was naked, and you gave me rats. The rodents were gathered together, the cats slept in the Sun’s blindness, and the rats rose like the Moon, in the light at the edge of the cheese.
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Kalamari Posts: 17 12/12/2017	Well, I'm bloody livid, given I ship Feducci and Jenny, but ah well, I'm happy for best mayor regardless! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kalis%20Amar Main account, zailor and monster hunter extraordinaire! Open to all actions except Seeking and other negative ones. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rebecca%20Bhatt Alt account, poet and thief, tries to stay out of danger. Open to peaceful actions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Herbert%20Phillips%20West Second alt, seeker in the making. Will take any punishment.
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/12/2017	Lady Karnstein wrote: Caroline's response, I think, shall the the sound of glass breaking, a dropped snifter, and several moments of open mouth shock, followed, eventually, by "...okay." I myself cannot wait. I LOVED the Finishing School and the Gift was excellent. So should be great. cathyr19355 shows no reaction in public but privately is astounded and appalled. She views Feducci as a well-meaning eccentric, not the sort of man who would unwittingly wed an immoral monster such as the Princess. Maybe the TC's supporters were right, she thinks. Maybe he really is monstrous. I myself am actually considering spending 40 Fate to play the story, something I rarely do. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Alice Lutwidge Posts: 43 12/18/2017	Adding to the above two, I've actually really enjoyed the story so far, and I'm currently still in the middle of the ceremony waiting on actions, but... [spoiler]From the start I wanted to ensure the wedding was a success, and during the planning stage I was careful not to pick anything that might hinder the finale. At the beginning of the ceremony, when Virginia was talking during the Bishop's sermon, I chose to let her continue just to hear what she had to say. Doing so gave me 1 Reasons They Should Not Be Wed--no problem, that probably just unlocks an option to stop it later, right? Which I won't choose, and all will be well. Well... Just browsing through my qualities out of boredom waiting for my next action, I noticed another new quality: A Wedding Undone 4, "It is all over." That's leading me to believe that just because I listened in on Virginia instead of hushing her, the wedding's now doomed to fail regardless of all I've done so far to make sure it doesn't. Or that, as the previous posters suggested, the wedding's failure is the only possible ending. Which I really hope it isn't, as I was extremely curious to see the results.[/spoiler] -- Professor Alice Lutwidge Poet-Laureate, Correspondent, Legendary Charisma
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 12/18/2017	Kylestien wrote: Omega8520 wrote: So, update on the failing. [spoiler] It turns out that, telling the couple about the "what (whoever) knows" options each raises the marriage failing quality by one without telling you. So if you go for completeness (as most people tend to), you are locked into the failing ending. [/spoiler] Considering that a lot of us are crazy and like completing options, in a way that is even worse. Inclined to agree. If that is what is drawing about this particular ending for people, I think that is exceptionally bad writing, because there is no indication any such quality is being raised or would be raised, and - personally speaking, anyway - the implication seemed to be that the final choice would come sometime during the ceremony itself. I actually suspected it was maybe something to do with the vow choice that did it, as that randomly gave me a quality that I never saw mentioned/used after, but . . . if it's due to talking with the respective bridal parties? That's shoddy writing.
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Anchovies Posts: 421 12/18/2017	Harlocke wrote: For all we know, he may be some Elder Continent prince. Among players of the Great Game, Feducci is sometimes called "the bandaged prince". The name comes up in Doing Business in Wilmot's End, if memory serves. In his Hallowmas confession, Feducci recounts having a large number of supporters and admirers during his life in the Presbyterate. Seventy accompany him on a quest of personal penance, and he's the only one who makes it back alive. Feducci may well be of noble birth; perhaps one of the Replete? gronostaj wrote: in ambition:nemesis it's revealed that her hunger for red honey is sated by having a garden of caged prisoners who are used as living hives. By "having a garden" do you mean that Nemesis reveals that the Captivating Princess oversees and manages the Palace's cage-gardens? Other stories mention her ties to red honey, but as a user and not a producer of the stuff. gronostaj wrote: the bees crawl inside their skulls, gathering the &quotpollen&quot of memories from their brains as they would from a flower. pleasant. The creation and harvesting of red honey isn't even the worst thing about the stuff. The worst of it is the extreme mental and physical agony experienced by a victim when someone else uses the honey, as their memory is torn out of their mind and consumed. Even a short while in the cage-gardens leaves a person a hollow, tormented shell of their former self. [spoiler]Only one character has gotten anywhere near to a full recovery after time in the cage-gardens. The Acclaimed Beauty, after his escape and release, was taken in by rubbery men. Down in the amber halls of Flute Street the rubbery men used their devices and arts to heal him, shaping what was left of the man into an almost entirely new person. The damage inflicted by crazed lamplighter bees apparently cannot be undone, and can only be patched over with alien magitech. The Acclaimed Beauty wasn't born with his looks, kids. He's had his nose done, his chin done, his everything done.[/spoiler] PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. O.O I hadn't considered that before. More specifically, it would be the Prince-Consort around the time of the Fall. By 1895 he's a pallid, greying old fellow who doesn't seem even halfway present, mentally. His only direct appearance in free content is if the player presents a symphony which includes a cannon. I've heard he's also in one of the Face-Tailor endings, making a mess of drinking his tea. His continued existence seems much more for the Traitor Empress's sake than for his own. Lady Sapho Byron wrote: She's got her father's venom. If you're referencing the Cantigaster, that's, uh, part of a different family. PSGarak wrote: Not sure where you got that, but in any case: I'm under the vague and un-sourced impression that the Fall was in February. Her birth could be 9 months later and still in the same year. Unsourced no more! Take a gander at this mock headline of the London Gazette announcing the Fall, dated February 14 1862. Not primary-source game material, but no less reliable than any other ancillary content from FBG (e.g. the comic, or the assorted lore-posts on the Failbetter website). PSGarak wrote: So either the Prince-Consort sired her in his current state... or not. Given the timing of things, I think the most likely other scenario is that the Captivating Princess was, for reasons unknown, one of the conditions of the Contract by which London was taken. Ooh, that's a very interesting thought. Conception on February 14, plus 40 weeks, is November 21. Give or take (specifically give) a few weeks for eldritch space-magic, and Sacksmas could be right around the Captivating Princess's birthday. Akernis wrote: All the royal children who stayed in London after the fall have - through red honey - become changed into horrible monsters. Their shapes are probably not an effect of using red honey, or not entirely. The Kaiser of Prussia may be learned about in The Empress's Shadow. He was born to the Shadow after the Fall, he has never been to the Neath, and there are things about him which are reminiscent of the Traitor Empress's issue and their... conditions. I think it more likely that the issue use red honey to forget about their present circumstances and remember what life was like as ordinary humans. Akernis wrote: Which hints that the Captivating Princess already went through this process herself since she is human again, at least in physiology if not sentiment. The Empress's Shadow mentions "the powers that repaired the Captivating Princess", so the Captivating Princess has definitely been, well, repaired. Akernis wrote: But feasting upon the potential of an exceptional person can reverse the process. I don't recall any sort of revelation of what the player may offer of themselves in The Gift. That's my main quibble with the story, in fact; the story text doesn't say very much at all about what happens. The Captivating Princess tells the player character "the virtues that I so regard in you are what my sister needs. Your curiosity, your determination. They will make her all she can be." The player character doesn't actually lose anything, though, so "dined on something less replaceable" might sound weird and spooky but it just doesn't work for me. Other than that, though, The Gift is great fun and I'm glad to have played it, for its own merits and for what it adds to The Empress's Shadow. Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Perhaps the Captivating Princess is counting on Feducci's immortality to enable her to feed him to all her siblings. Events in The Gift seem to imply that after a certain age (the end of puberty, or thereabouts), the Traitor Empress's children cannot shed their monstrous forms. The Captivating Princess wants to save her sister from a life as an abomination hidden in the depths of the palace, while the older among the issue seem to abhor the thought. I think their mentality is something along the lines of "I have to suffer this form, so you should to even if your being spared it would cost me nothing." For once at least, the Captivating Princess is doing the right thing. edited by Anchovies on 12/18/2017 -- Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God — but to create Him. —Sir Arthur C Clarke Lionel Anchovies. Character on indefinite hiatus.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/18/2017	I am only doing preparations at the time, and taking my time with it. I am enjoying the insight into the characters so far, and the writing. Nothing so grandiose as the Empress' Shadow, which was more mature in a good way, but I like the implications of a looming war which definitely tell me which side I should be on when the time comes to serve or sabotage. Having said that... I strongly dislike being locked in an ending because I was not told what each choice means. This is neither real life, nor a tabletop RPG where you can ask the storyteller for clarification. Lately, I have come to the point where I prefer to have the stories entirely spoilt before I play them, so as not to bang my head on the wall. The Last Constable was bad enough, with its almost certain gloomy ending forcing you to reset if you made the mistake of being emotionally invested in the game. On another note... I feel the finishing school from the Shadow was an amazing return on buying the story. I also enjoy the source from Docks' favors I got from the Gift. I am not saying FB owes us anything else than the story itself, (nothing was promised and most people play for the writing and lore I suspect) but when previous years gave so much at the end it is normal to be dissapointed in getting close to nothing this time. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/23/2017	funnily enough, that would make fallen london a lot like dark souls; convoluted thousands of different states of the very same world, each only intersecting upon invitation and on select occasions; like to conveniently allow players to murder each other -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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SpectralDragon Posts: 13 12/23/2017	Sir Frederick wrote: I have another question. What is Feducci wearing, that has to be fastened around the back, shoulders and knees? My money's on Kinbaku. That seems fitting enough for the old fox. -- Pronouns are he/she/crab
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SpectralDragon Posts: 13 12/23/2017	Felicity Anne Stratford wrote: I finished the story last night and gave myself until the morning before posting my reactions. Occasionally I am surprised by something that my Felicity does, and this was one of those occasions. I personally do not like the current mayor, and I am indifferent about the princess.Therefore I expected to end up sabotaging the wedding gleefully and having the two of them go their separate ways. But Felicity didn't do that, and I credit that to the writing and characterizations. She wanted this to succeed and wanted the two of them to end up happily together. So for me this story was a great success in terms of character building. I feel this. I was expecting to want to sabotage them, but now that I'm at the door I find myself desperately hoping that they'll make it work out. Perhaps I'm sappier than I thought. -- Pronouns are he/she/crab
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/25/2017	Sure, but we are not in the Surface. The way this went down, for some, Feducci is a huge figure right now. Some players duel and protest the Prince Consort himself, while for others he is still plain Feducci, the duelist and one time mayor. Very different versions. I wonder if they will make it so that the wedding eventually happens anyway. I would not mind that, even if I chose to disrupt it; you cannot always make the change you want. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Saklad Posts: 528 12/25/2017	I really loved how the player had the freedom to make a variety of nuanced cases in the end, rather than just two or three vastly different options that may not align with what I’d want to do. In this case, I asked each fiancee about the rumors of war on the Presbyterate, shushed Virginia, let the Veteran Privy Councilor go ahead (that is the time for it, after all), and finally objected on the grounds that Feducci wanted neither a bloody conflict nor an imminent one with the Presbyterate. The rest of the objections seemed either unfair (Devils aren’t really evil, they just like to style themselves that way) or irrelevant to the couple themselves. Then, in a refreshing twist, the Princess and Mayor acted like adults and called off the wedding by parting amicably. My only real complaint, and it isn’t a particularly major one, is that there isn’t much of a mechanical or narrative impact from this story. I definitely appreciate the reliable source of Incendiary Gossip, and I’d take new options over a single item any day, but it isn’t quite as good as a new Opportunity Card, never mind an entirely new location with important effects on the story and the gameplay like Sinning Jenny’s Finishing School. That being said, I hardly expect every story to have such an important result. -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Plynkes Posts: 631 12/21/2017	Well, that's that, then. I'm put a little in mind of The Castafiore Emerald (Les Bijoux de la Castafiore) by Georges Remi. It was one of the later Tintin stories, where Remi decided to experiment with the form. He wanted to see if he could write a Tintin book where nothing much happened, and still sustain it as an entertaining and enjoyable read. So Tintin and friends don't go off globe-trotting or exploring, don't have a dangerous adventure, and don't break up a ring of dastardly criminals or political extremists. They stay at home and we get a whole lot of slapstick and character comedy, wrapped up in a bogus whodunit centred around a missing jewel only for it to turn out that nobody really dunit at all. There is also talk of a society wedding that never comes to pass. I feel this story was similar in some regards. Nothing much happened, at least with the way it played out for me. We had some lore insights, a parade of peculiar and grotesque characters, and a whole lot of inconsequential stuff going on in a stately home. Les Bijoux de la Castafiore wasn't universally well-received at the time, for it was such a departure from the usual Tintin fare. But in time it has come to be regarded as something of a classic to Tintin fans. A whole book where nothing really happened, and I was thoroughly entertained. The Marriage of Feducci also felt like a story where nothing really happened, but frankly I was rather bored throughout. I never really felt engaged (pardon the pun), and didn't care what happened, which is odd, because my character is Feducci's man to the bone, you'd have thought I'd be heavily invested in it, one way or another. But I felt so far away from it all, like someone peeking through a window. As the previous poster pointed out, I felt it was a huge waste to not involve our various qualities with the main characters. If I spent the money to do so, it would play out exactly the same for my alt who has never met either of them as it did to my main who is closely linked to them both. Time will tell if it will mature to classic status in the fans' memory in the same way as the Tintin story did, but I have my doubts. -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Felicity Anne Stratford Posts: 63 12/19/2017	I finished the story last night and gave myself until the morning before posting my reactions. Occasionally I am surprised by something that my Felicity does, and this was one of those occasions. I personally do not like the current mayor, and I am indifferent about the princess.Therefore I expected to end up sabotaging the wedding gleefully and having the two of them go their separate ways. But Felicity didn't do that, and I credit that to the writing and characterizations. She wanted this to succeed and wanted the two of them to end up happily together. So for me this story was a great success in terms of character building. In terms of the game mechanisms, I fortunately stopped when reading the issues others had with the choices not being marked. That let me play it after the text was added about consequences - which I must say should be part of all future stories. I did not like the randomness of the story cards popping up in the deck - why not just assign them whatever cost in actions you want them to have in the first place rather than depend on some 'average' number? I also felt that this story was much too big for one tale - that it would have been better as an entire season. There was so much material and so many characters involved. Heck it could have been an entire year's worth of ES! I am hoping that in future ES we see the results of our choices here and there. I very much enjoyed what was here, though, especially the chance for my Felicity to surprise me. Thanks! -- Looking for a roleplay partner with potential for Simone and maybe for Felicity. All genders considered. Felicity Anne Stratford is a Correspondent and delighted to visit Orphanages or Salons or be interviewed! Scientific correspondence greatly appreciated. Please no Seeking or Photographer. Simone Beaufort is a Midnighter and pleased to visit Orphanages or Salons or be interviewed! No Seeking or Photographer.
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Zack Oak Posts: 205 12/20/2017	So I have a lot of feelings about the story, and I feel like sharing what I sent to feedback here as well. I chose, full disclosure, to sabotage the wedding. [spoiler] What I liked: - The buildup to the wedding. The way we learned about the bride and groom's plans for their shared power was very well executed. - The background of the palace, particularly the "airs of" descriptors were wonderful and built an excellent atmosphere. - Previously minor characters like Virginia, Baseborn & Fowlingpiece, and the Veteran Privy-Counselor were given more depth and life. What I did not like: - There was almost no interaction with Feducci and the Captivating Princess, who were the draw for the story to me. The interactions I had with them were minor, had no reflection on past interactions with them, and felt very rushed. I would like for stories that are about characters to involve them more directly. - My character's agency had very little consequence on the overall story and setting of Fallen London. This is my biggest issue, at the end of the day. Had my character not shown up at all, there would have been more change to the overall plot and setting than if he had been involved. Having some form of impact on either the palace, the princess, or feducci would have been nice. A story-affecting quality or visible instance of what my choice accomplished would have been even better. - The ending was abrupt, the remaining storylet it gives you is... really not interesting or worth using, and at the end of the day I feel like I didn't accomplish anything. I felt less like I had control over the story, and more like the options were "bad ending" or "status quo." Bad choices work in storylets like the Season of Stones, where even if you can't get a Best Ending, you had three stories where you made a difference before that. In this... not so much. I don't know how to improve that, other than to give the ruined wedding option more visible impact. - No other stories about the royals were relevant. The Generous Princess didn't show up. The Empress's Shadow wasn't mentioned. I would have loved to see them. - This one's really more of a long-standing personal gripe, but... Illegitimately Royal is a house of chimes quality that shows up in PoSI content. It's the only fatelocked house of chimes quality. It has also never, ever been relevant in content related to the royal family, which kills me a little each time I do something with them. This is a great resource available to Failbetter, I'd love to see it put to use. [/spoiler] edited by ZackOak on 12/20/2017 -- Roland Banning, The Ambitious Operative (Profile) Tumblr RP Account Ask me about the Delicious Friends RP group! Open for social actions (no cats or photographers, please. Currently taking a break from K&C.)
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/18/2017	And it does tag the options that cause the marriage to fail now. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/18/2017	I have, marriage happens here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/SunnyTime?fromEchoId=13202097 and the after party is of course different. edit: it looks like you can't see the rest of the afterparty echoes for some reason. You should be able to by clicking the link in my description. edited by suinicide on 12/18/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Greg M Posts: 197 12/18/2017	Relative newcomer to FL but the first 3 pages of this thread are glorious. I think I may have to play this story and, for that matter, The Gift. [ETA: after catching up with the rest of the thread, I may wait on playing this story, at least until I do The Gift. And @RobinAlexander, your comments were very helpful, not just as a player, but as a pro writer who may want to enter narrative game design at some point. Choices gotta matter.] edited by GregM on 12/18/2017 -- Profile: GregM. http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/GregM Available for any non-harmful social interactions.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/18/2017	Fate stories during December have become something of a tradition. The ES is still going to happen, and all exceptional friends will get that one. edited by suinicide on 12/18/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 12/18/2017	The part I don't particularly like about stories like this is that the outcome won't matter if it can be changed. They can't hinge anything on this story because not everyone will have even done it. So even something potentially big like a royal wedding just... can't be unless it only has one outcome. It's not at all time-efficient for people to factor in big changes like that for future stories. Jenny's school worked because you can refer to its existence without dealing with the part of the plot that can change. Some stories hint at far future Big Things or Big Possibilities, but they're so far off you'll probably never see them. A wedding is something here and now. Tystefy wrote: So. Yea. I inadvertently got a happy ending through lack of knowledge. This... disturbs me. Ignorance is bliss. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/18/2017	I am agonizing over the very first choice. I hope you do not need to decide your course so early on! -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 12/18/2017	Absintheuse wrote: ...Join the Beleaguered Wedding Planner in the Shuttered Palace to make or break this historic moment.... Robin Alexander wrote: It seemed that no matter WHAT I unearthed, I was given NO choices or any form of impact on the final outcome, and - regardless of my choices/actions - the outcome of the marriage was absolutely set . . . making every action point bought and spent pointless. For this course of action thrust upon me -? No choice whether to object or not. No choice whether to sabotage or not. All my work for nought, as I watch the outcome play out as a hapless witness with no actual active part in the story . . . seriously, if my character hadn't been there, NOTHING would have been any different . . . it was all pointless. I'm just . . . sight Robin Alexander wrote: (I imagine people will down-vote me, which is fair enough, but I'm really pissed by this) I see no reason why specially that you made your point pretty clear; even if a bit acidic. Thank you both for the feedback; this settles me to wait more until I'll get this story! edited by Skinnyman on 12/18/2017 -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 12/12/2017	Unless the Empress secretly cheated with someone else...
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Slyblue Posts: 224 12/12/2017	Daedalus_Falk wrote: A masked death-duellist courts a feral, flesh-eating princess? I ship it. Make that two of us. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? -- The Smiling Devil • The Curt Licentiate • The Keen-Eyed Captain "For hearts of truest mettle, absence doth join and Time doth settle."
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Six Handed Merchant Posts: 141 12/12/2017	Let's just hope they don't join forces together... Checks through stacks of detectives notes for secrets powerful enough to break off the wedding..." -- The Six Handed Merchant:* If it's the truth you seek, The Six Handed Merchant is the gentlemen-, er, lady-, er, detective you need! Just pay no heed to that Eradication Officer tailing Six: that poor fellow is simply out of his mind! Six's Mantlepiece (I am available for roleplaying and SAs. My schedule is pretty full, so please PM me first to work out the details.)
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genesis Posts: 924 12/12/2017	Those were confirmed to be nieces and nephews of Victoria or possibly grandchildren. But not her children in any event -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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PSGarak Posts: 834 12/12/2017	dov wrote: PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. Was she born significantly after the Fall, though (i.e. at least 9 months after)? I think it was said she was born in the same year as the Fall, which is different. Not sure where you got that, but in any case: I'm under the vague and un-sourced impression that the Fall was in February. Her birth could be 9 months later and still in the same year. Or it could be a completely different number of months, for various reasons. In any case: All of the other of the Traitor Empress' issue have counterparts in historical, not-fallen London, and all of Queen Victoria's issue are accounted for as characters. The Captivating Princess has no such counterpart, and is a new character. Her conception definitely occurred after the historical record of Fallen London diverged from our own. So either the Prince-Consort sired her in his current state... or not. Given the timing of things, I think the most likely other scenario is that the Captivating Princess was, for reasons unknown, one of the conditions of the Contract by which London was taken. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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ProfessorDetective Posts: 50 12/17/2017	Six Handed Merchant wrote: If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 Best case: few hours. Worst case: couple months. Ethier way: too long. edited by ProfessorDetective on 12/17/2017 -- Contact: The Academic Investigator. Call ahead. Lodgings disorderly.
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Vortigaunt Posts: 51 12/11/2017	This is somewhat off topic, but I don't suppose there's a sort of bibliography for all of the FL writers. I'm looking forward to this story, and I think Cash is one of my favorite writers at FBG, but I can't remember exactly remember which Exceptional Stories he wrote to be sure. edited by Vortigaunt on 12/11/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vortigaunt
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/11/2017	I actually feel sorry for Feducci, whether or not he deserves it. After all, there are fates worse than death, and I'll bet the Captivating Princess knows how to inflict a few of them. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Vortigaunt Posts: 51 12/11/2017	Thank you very much! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vortigaunt
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Spitfire Youngster Posts: 32 12/11/2017	There are obviously no brakes on the Feducci train, but that's ok, because before it turns into an inferno of fire and metal, it'll give us (or at least me) a Hell of a ride! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Spitfire%20Youngster Professional troublemaker, not a single regret since [REDACTED]
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Aberrant Eremite Posts: 362 12/11/2017	Feducci surely can't be in love. More likely, he has some sinister plot to do away with the Captivating Princess. In which case, he deserves our full support. -- Hieronymus Drake: Gentleman scholar, big-game hunter, scar-faced aristocrat. Remarkably sane, all things considered. Tanith Wyrmwood: Longshanks cat-burglar; Bohemian author; now, perhaps, something more. Bubbly, expressive, and affectionate. It’s not only still waters that run deep. Telemachia Lee: Gentle lady by birth, brawling Docker by choice. Good company in the drunk tank.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 12/11/2017	For some strange reason, I could have sworn the Captivating Princess was a fate-locked spouse option . . . I do look forward to this story; I can't say I like Feducci at all, but the Captivating Princess is an excellent character, and the story itself sounds very interesting and has a lot of promise. That being said, I will admit I'm not typically a fan of Cash's work, and 40 fate is a lot of RL money, so . . . I may see how others react first before committing to a purchase.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 1/1/2018	Tystefy wrote: I’m assuming the lucrative “news of the royal couple” aftermath storylet will disappear after a while. For successfully pulling off the wedding. It provides 15 romantic notions per action. Anyone know what a ‘failed wedding’ aftermath storylet provides? Three Incendiary Gossip. Presumably the storylet will stick around as the reward for completing the story. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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dov Posts: 2580 1/8/2018	Anne Auclair wrote: [spoiler]London and the Neath's sake?[/spoiler] Basically, one option to make the case that the wedding would be bad for London, and another option to make the case that it would be bad to the Neath as a whole. I've now completed this story (and returned from the tomb colony). Thanks to this nasty unexpected twist at the end and its implications I must say that this is the first time I truly regret spending Fate on anything in the game (and I've played practically all Fate stories, including the Rubbery Murders). Such a bad taste to end the story with... -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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PSGarak Posts: 834 12/21/2017	Sir Frederick wrote: I figured there were just no cards to draw - that it was a cardless stretch of the story. Speaking of, I'm at that point. I wouldn't mind asking the couple a question or two, but I don't want to actually sink their relationship. How curious can I get before it actually starts causing harm? Shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Note that you will have another opportunity to raise the quality of interest, so be judicious. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 1/9/2018	dov wrote: I've just tried this and in fact you can't back out without selecting a reason. That's very disappointing. Had I known what the possible reasons are I would not have chosen to interfere with the ceremony. (Which is why I asked here in the first place). Oh, well... Whoops, sorry for the misinformation. I had chosen to select a reason against the marriage as Hebediah and, upon selecting one of the Virginia ones, was taken out of the 'raise an objection' menu and back to the 'watch them kiss or raise an objection' section. I assumed this meant that objecting took you back to the central storylet so you could object once and have them marry anyway if you decided none of the objections suited you, but I guess it must have just been a bug on my side. -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/8/2018	Why? What was wrong with it? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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dov Posts: 2580 1/8/2018	Anne Auclair wrote: Why? What was wrong with it? As I wrote above: I would have liked to try and stop the wedding only if presented with reasons to do so which would fit my character. And in the absence of such reasons, I would have very much liked to not interfere and let the wedding happen. However, the game requires you first to choose if you want to stop the wedding or not, and only then it tells you what reasons you can choose from. There's no way to "Perhaps Not" or to select an option saying "Actually, say nothing". This is why I asked for advice here and was explicitly told that if I were to choose the option to offer reasons to stop the wedding I'll be able to back out of it. So I chose that option, and saw that there was no way to back out of it. Since none of the offered reasons appealed to my character I offered no such reasons and was kicked off the wedding and sent to exile for interfering (same as offering a few reasons, but not enough of them to persuade the couple). It's not a bad story (though also not one of the best). It's just that this sort of mechanic which locks you into a choice before giving you a role-playing reason for it, together with following bad advice on the forum (which I'm sure was given by carelessness) led me to do something I very much tried not to do. As I said - the only story for which I've ever regretted paying the Fate to play. From pure role-playing reasons, given the result I got I would have much preferred to never have played the story to begin with. ---- edited by dov on 1/8/2018 -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 1/2/2018	Perhaps it would have been better if the storylet only appeared in the palace though? It clutters the page a bit. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Absintheuse Posts: 348 1/4/2018	theonie wrote: Absintheuse wrote: The Marriage of Feducci will be available beginning the 18th of December for 40 Fate. Begin this story at The Wedding Announcement, which is open to all and available throughout London during the festive season. If you wish to purchase this story, continue through to The Marriage of Feducci storylet. Until when will this story be available -- when is the festive season considered to end? After the tweleve days of Mr Sacks are over? I don't want to miss it by accident... It'll be available up until 15th January (so before 14th to be safe). After that it'll be taken down for a short time before becoming available on the Fate page.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/5/2018	I've seldom been so conflicted about which ending to choose. I'd like to take over the Elder Continent and expand the Empire, but I also don't trust Feducci and despise Hell. What to do, what to do. btw, what happens if you only beg one of them to reconsider? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/5/2018	Congratulations to the writers. Feducci and the Captivating Princess being absolutely perfect for each other was the last thing I was expecting...and they pulled it off perfectly. Bravo. You know, whether the wedding succeeds or fails, the Bazaar is no doubt happy with the result (though she'd probably prefer a success, all things considered). -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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theonie Posts: 77 1/6/2018	Absintheuse wrote: theonie wrote: Absintheuse wrote: The Marriage of Feducci will be available beginning the 18th of December for 40 Fate. Begin this story at The Wedding Announcement, which is open to all and available throughout London during the festive season. If you wish to purchase this story, continue through to The Marriage of Feducci storylet. Until when will this story be available -- when is the festive season considered to end? After the tweleve days of Mr Sacks are over? I don't want to miss it by accident... It'll be available up until 15th January (so before 14th to be safe). After that it'll be taken down for a short time before becoming available on the Fate page. Thanks very much! I've a small mania about doing things in order, so wanted to conclude the 12 Days of Mr Sacks first. Just started The Marriage, it looks great! -- theonie, an inescapable, midnight, terrifying, and irresistible lady. All social actions except Affluent Photographer welcome. As a Midnighter, will gladly accept all invitations to Orphanages.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/6/2018	I really enjoyed this story - in fact I probably enjoyed it more than The Empresses Shadow (and I really enjoyed that one). I just didn't finish it until last night owing to Christmas stuff, making waves, inbox clearing, and my desire to collect all the Wedding-Airs descriptions. Speaking of which, here's the full list of every background event at the Wedding, organized by category: [spoiler] Disappointed Lovers A youth of tremendous beauty struggles to remain a glacial composure; he brushes aside all questions. But when someone mentions the Princess, he bursts into tears. Suitors wait by the palace gates in tears. Even a few servants cry in privately. Any hope of marrying above their station has ended, just like that. The Royal Housekeeper scolds a maid, while her friends watch. As their superior leaves, a butler jokes: "Still dreaming of our captivating Ladyship?" The maid blushes furiously. A butler dreamily twines his handkerchief around his fingers. But wait a minute; that isn't a handkerchief. Is that one of Feducci's bandages? He hides it before you can be certain. The palace guards are an awfully chatty bunch when you catch them off-duty. "He's awful funny," one says, regarding the Veteran Privy Counsellor. His companions agree. Each takes it in turn to demonstrate their impression of the man. The captain's impression is devastatingly ribald, and entirely accurate. Feducci and the Princess You never catch sight of the Royal Couple, but you certainly hear about them. Just little moments between the pair: wild games of cards, where they trade fortunes; holding hands as they watch duels; dreams of everlasting love, shared between them. As carvers leave shavings, so too do poets leave discarded notes. You collect them around the Palace. Though many berate and bemoan the romance between Feducci and the Captivating Princess, no one seems to question the sincerity of their affection. A certain Gnomic Gallivant is being escorted from the Palace again. "Truth is an arrow!" he says, smiling. "I struck too true!" Once outside the gates, the guards tell you the story. Evidently, he offended the Captivating Princess. "Some rot about liberty, equality, and another one. Very high-minded." A conversation overhead from two maids scrubbing the floor: "He sent her away!" "I need another sponge." "She came from Paris, just to meet Feducci. Can you believe it?" "Yes, you've told me every chance you've had. Now can I have the bl__dy sponge?" The Captivating Princess' tailor, a long suffering man, is near the end of his wits. "Nothing is fast enough or good enough for her! One minute silk, the next taffeta, and then silk again! She is entirely —" A bell sounds. The tailor pales, and races off. Talk of War Blustery generals are, to everyone's distress, attempting hushed conversations. Lengthy discussions on immortality come booming from their private rooms. Blissful silence only comes when one of Feducci or the Captivating Princess pays them a visit. "But think about it," a butler with a basketful of laundry tells you. "I may as well sign up now, before they conscript me. Feducci's proven himself to be nothing more than a brigand, and the Princess is up day and night with generals. We'll be in the Elder Continent before you know it." A vintner, pockets jingling with coin, is (badly) improvising a song about Baseborn and Fowlingpiece. "Who knew," he says, in his hoarse voice, "Lawyers do have a sense of humour. If I keep this up, might be I'll be supplying London's armies soon enough." A cat and a rat have formed a temporary truce on the skullery stair. They scatter when they see you, but not before you hear them discussing a list of prospective Elder Continent titles that might suit the Princess. The Royal Housekeeper confides, with no uncertain gladness, that she has been tasked by the Princess to prepare a new hall for dedication. "Something's coming," she says, "I can sense it. And I'll be here to see it. Are we taking back the Surface? Or claiming the Elder Continent at last?" Her face is alight at the bloody prospect. A chef is enjoying a cigarette and the sound of his own voice as he takes a moment to rest. "War, boys. That's where we're headed. With her temperament and his blinkin' ambition?" Ancient scullery maids discuss the Elder Continent question over the dishes. They reminisce of Imperial Glory, when London held more than just Port Carnelian. Other Wedding Details A pair of florists are gossiping. "--- that last shipment that was delayed all week. Suppose if it's what he really wants, he'll wait." A distraught seamstress leans against a wall. "I cannot convince him," she says, "to consider changing out his stained, old bandages for any kind of delicate lace, or embroidered delight." Feducci? "No, the Baron he's brought in as his best man. 'I can't oblige myself into his service any more!' is all he says when I ask him. It is too much for a heart to bear!"[/spoiler] One thing I rather liked was how these Airs didn't just set the scene. They also provided some pretty heavy foreshadowing of the various paths the wedding could take (right down to the more masochistic players taking up the standard of every disappointed suitor and declaring their love for the royal couple, come what may). The combination of this background gossip with the preparations battle, the geopolitical intrigue, and the wedding countdown was very nice. Something was going on! What is going on? Oh, you get to decide what that is. I also enjoyed how subtle the action was. You had a lot of influence over what happened, but it wasn't direct influence. Instead, your influence came from being in close contact with important people and choosing how to do your job (well or badly). It was a lot like being at Versailles, actually. The sort of influence you wielded was the type that had French nobles viciously competing to hold the King's bedtime candle or accompany him to the toilet. In a royal court, physical proximity to the powerful is power and the story captures this sort of atmosphere perfectly. I might just really like Cash DeCuir's work. The Waltz that Moved the World and Five Minutes to Midday are also among my favorite stories. He's really good at describing locations and building tension (the Carnival, the Embassy, the Albion Wing - the Waltz, the Countdown, the Wedding). All three of these stories had me at the edge of my seat as the conclusion approached. The bride and groom advancing on the alter was incredibly exciting! I only have one constructive criticism regarding the mechanics - it might have been better had players been informed, somehow, that they would have two mutually exclusive opportunities to disrupt the wedding in close secession. People who wanted to stop the wedding probably did what I did: throw everything at the wall to see what would stick. So those who would have freely chosen, say, a more theatrical ending over a face saving one could easily have missed the chance (I'm perfectly happy with the ending I got btw - this is just an observation). I think this was the only real shortcoming in an otherwise flawless work. . edited by Anne Auclair on 1/6/2018 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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SpectralDragon Posts: 13 12/28/2017	gronostaj wrote: SpectralDragon wrote: My money's on Kinbaku. That seems fitting enough for the old fox. technically, if you count bandages as type of "rope", then all tomb-colonists are wearing kinbaku There's an argument in here that it's not the presence of rope but the presentation that makes it kinbaku, but arguing about how presentation factors into art is how you get Branca-esque installations, and I simply am not prepared for the kinbaku equivalent of this. edited by SpectralDragon on 12/28/2017 -- Pronouns are he/she/crab
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Kylestien Posts: 749 12/11/2017	Mayor Feducci's proposal of marriage to the Captivating Princess has been accepted! ...I'm going to kill him. No, I don't care that he's immortal. Then again, he'll probably need it. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 12/11/2017	Barse wrote: (Very exciting!) ...and bit creepy! Wonder what are the real goals/porpoises of this marriage. -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Dudebro Pyro Posts: 755 12/11/2017	Alright, this will sound idiotic, but I have absolutely no memory of what the Captivating Princess actually, you know, does. I've accepted her as a well-known character, but now that I think about it, I can only remember hearing about her as a well-known character, and I can't for the life of me remember why she would be well-known. edited by Dudebro Pyro on 12/11/2017 -- Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them. For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Sandy Toller Posts: 6 12/11/2017	The Captivating Princess has been seen in public with Sandy Toller far more than with Feducci. And Sandy has already defeated the inestimable Mayor in combat on more than one occasion. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sandy%20Toller
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Lady Karnstein Posts: 278 12/13/2017	In addion to the card, The Gift unlocks an option for certain Finishing School students and an option on Capering Relicker. The Finishing School has that open year round, something I can't imagine being without now -- Lady Caroline Karnstein, The Moral Hedonist (Description) Infamous writer, artist, and courtesan. Unrepentant Invert. Hesperidean. Paramount Presence, Correspondent, Nocturnal. Poet Laureate of the Neath, Ambassador to Arbor
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ExceptionallyDelicious Posts: 188 12/13/2017	Lady Karnstein wrote: In addion to the card, The Gift unlocks an option for certain Finishing School students and an option on Capering Relicker. The Finishing School has that open year round, something I can't imagine being without now Wait, what option unlocks on the Capering Relicker's card? -- Any and all social actions are appreciated, and most will be reciprocated. DavidJ, a self reflection (main): http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/DavidJ Damien Erebus, a broken man and aspiring spymaster: http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Damien%20Erebus
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 12/14/2017	Lady Karnstein wrote: ExceptionallyDelicious wrote: Lady Karnstein wrote: In addion to the card, The Gift unlocks an option for certain Finishing School students and an option on Capering Relicker. The Finishing School has that open year round, something I can't imagine being without now Wait, what option unlocks on the Capering Relicker's card? One of the gifts...I can't recall what they specifically give you. Most of the earlier fate stories open some option. I'm pretty sure you're confusing The Gift's cards with the Capering Relicker ending to Trade in Faces. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/14/2017	Siankan wrote: dov wrote: I'm against this marriage, but the bachelor's party is bound to be Epic. No time like the present to discuss pertinent matters. How many Echoes is your property insured for? Also, does anyone else find this appropriate (accidental, probably, but oh, so appropriate) to be announced on the day we get [redacted] from the Advent Calendar? We have so many NPCs in Fallen London. The Intense Notary. The Panicked Solicitor. The Melancholy Curate. But what we haven't had was an insurance broker! I'd go with the Imperturbable Broker, myself. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Six Handed Merchant Posts: 141 12/17/2017	If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 -- The Six Handed Merchant: If it's the truth you seek, The Six Handed Merchant is the gentlemen-, er, lady-, er, detective you need! Just pay no heed to that Eradication Officer tailing Six: that poor fellow is simply out of his mind! Six's Mantlepiece (I am available for roleplaying and SAs. My schedule is pretty full, so please PM me first to work out the details.)
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ExceptionallyDelicious Posts: 188 12/12/2017	Siankan wrote: PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. Then where do those royal children come from whom you're painting? All the other Royal Children were born before the Fall, and are based on real historical figures. -- Any and all social actions are appreciated, and most will be reciprocated. DavidJ, a self reflection (main): http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/DavidJ Damien Erebus, a broken man and aspiring spymaster: http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Damien%20Erebus
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 12/12/2017	Siankan wrote: ExceptionallyDelicious wrote: Siankan wrote: PSGarak wrote: One seemingly-minor detail about the Captivating Princess is that she is the only of the Traitor Empress' issue to be born after the Fall. This implies, among other things, that she was sired by the Prince-Consort in his current state. Then where do those royal children come from whom you're painting? All the other Royal Children were born before the Fall, and are based on real historical figures. I am not talking about them. I'm talking about the ones that the nursery-maids are failing to corral in the Royal Portrait commission. I don't think that her adult children still have nursery-maids. Children born to her relatives are still royal children. They're nieces, nephews. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Lady Karnstein Posts: 278 12/12/2017	Caroline's response, I think, shall the the sound of glass breaking, a dropped snifter, and several moments of open mouth shock, followed, eventually, by "...okay." I myself cannot wait. I LOVED the Finishing School and the Gift was excellent. So should be great. -- Lady Caroline Karnstein, The Moral Hedonist (Description) Infamous writer, artist, and courtesan. Unrepentant Invert. Hesperidean. Paramount Presence, Correspondent, Nocturnal. Poet Laureate of the Neath, Ambassador to Arbor
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/17/2017	Sajach wrote: Six Handed Merchant wrote: If this marriage goes through, knowing what the "happy couple" is like, how long until the Captivating Princess becomes the Captivating Widow? edited by Six Handed Merchant on 12/17/2017 Hard to say on, one hand she's going to try very hard to kill him, on the other hand we have all tried killing him and it doesn't really stick. So its an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. I can't wait to see what happens. edited by Sajach on 12/17/2017 He probably hopes she will try to kill him, but his indestructable immortality may have been what attracted her! [spoiler] Imagine how she could trawl through his memories! How much torture of that type he could withstand! It must be strongly alluring to her.[/spoiler] -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 12/18/2017	Is anyone else experiencing issues drawing opportunity cards in The Albion Wing, on the final day when attending to the Mayor and Princess? I'm going to go forward, as I assume I'm not supposed to draw cards, but I'm also afraid I'll miss some important card and be unable to meet the qualities needed for whatever ends may await . . . I spent fate on the story and action point, so this inability to draw cards worries me.
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reaperOscuroCore Posts: 41 12/18/2017	The Curious Watcher wrote: What do you think is worth more: a month of subscription or this story? I haven't gotten The Gift or Empress's Shadow, so I don't really know much about who the princess is. Will this kind of story be available later, because it seems a bit opportunistic to make this a seasonal exclusive. I'd suggest perhaps a one off donation to Mr Chimes to peruse the fairly interesting opportunities in his house, but beyond that to just pick and choose which opportunity you prefer most when they present themselves. I am also glad that someone else balks at this sadly very capitalist attempt at wrestling more of my most precious fate from me. Why isn't this option already free, being an exceptional friend? Why must I spend more? I feel less exceptional and more foolish, truth be told. And If there is one thing I detest is to be made a fool; it seems like such a delightful story, but unless us so called friends can partake in it without donating more to the cause, I'll leave it to my esteemed colleagues. Disappointed, Arden -- Arden Terraward -a gentleperson on the search for...EVERYTHING. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Arden%20Terraward
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gronostaj Posts: 403 12/18/2017	@Anchovies; no, I just meant the garden is there for her (and the rest of the royal family's) benefit. Mental shortcut, sorry for any confusion it might've caused. I'm more shocked that Beauty had his nose done than the bees thing, honestly. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 12/18/2017	Amazing new facts about the lore that I didn't know or missed by accident so I must thank you all for this lovely thread! I avoided spoilers well enough, but I must ask in which stories do we learn more about red honey ("manufacture" and effects); I know there is in SS, but last time I managed to play it was about 1 year ago. Mostly interested in Anchovies spoiler text as that is totally new to me! Few more hours... -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Akernis Posts: 255 12/18/2017	Anchovies wrote: Akernis wrote: All the royal children who stayed in London after the fall have - through red honey - become changed into horrible monsters. Their shapes are probably not an effect of using red honey, or not entirely. The Kaiser of Prussia may be learned about in The Empress's Shadow. He was born to the Shadow after the Fall, he has never been to the Neath, and there are things about him which are reminiscent of the Traitor Empress's issue and their... conditions. I think it more likely that the issue use red honey to forget about their present circumstances and remember what life was like as ordinary humans. True, it might well be a leap of logic to assume that the honey is responsible. But I went with that interpretation after extrapolating from the Destiny where you are with the Captivating Princess: "There is a thrilling and dramatic primacy to your existence together. You barely need to speak to each other: words become as redundant as sight. Your smell and hearing are astonishingly keen. The red honey, you think, is working its changes." Anchovies wrote: Events in The Gift seem to imply that after a certain age (the end of puberty, or thereabouts), the Traitor Empress's children cannot shed their monstrous forms. The Captivating Princess wants to save her sister from a life as an abomination hidden in the depths of the palace, while the older among the issue seem to abhor the thought. I think their mentality is something along the lines of "I have to suffer this form, so you should to even if your being spared it would cost me nothing." For once at least, the Captivating Princess is doing the right thing. I never got that impression. Especially since the Playful Prodigy is older than the Captivating Princess is now, so well past her puberty and we can still reverse the process for her and turn her normal. Which to me implies that the you can change back at any time, but the act to do so is considered very morally reprehensible. Which, I think, is also implied in the story: The Captivating Princess specifically tell Alfred / the Brooding Captain / the shadow with teeth, "It is very selfish of you to keep her like this, Alfred. You are forcing your own foibles on her. She could be better, so could you." And asks the rest of them: "I miss you all so. Will we ever be as we were before?" And if you don't let the Playful Prodigy feast on you, the Brooding Captain sends you a letter expressing his gratitude that you. "Saved what innocence remains to her." -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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Akernis Posts: 255 12/19/2017	Alright finally finished with the story. That took a long time waiting for all those wasted Actions to refill. Time to review it. Overall I have to admit that I was disappointed. I was happy that I played it, but despite it featuring my very favourite character and others that I quite liked I won't rate it anywhere near as highly as the Gift. Now my, obviously very biased, pros and cons. Pros I adored the 'mood' texts of this particular story. They were by far the best of any of the stories in my opinion. They were longer and provided far more depth and detail about the event and the feelings of the background characters like the palace staff. As usual the writing itself was great. The descriptions delightful and evocative. Even if I got nothing else out of it I am still happy that I got to immerse myself in such a pleasuble read. I liked the undercurrent theme of war with the Elder Continent running beneath the wedding itself. And the new lore we got, little though it was, provided an interesting light on Feducci and his relationship with his home. I hope this leads to something greater down the line, like us actually getting to invade or at least visit the Elder Continent in more detail. Please, can I get to introduce the Captivating Princess to the Injurious Princess? I get the feeling it will be the start of a beautiful, if cataclysmically lethal, friendship. I loved to see Baseborn and Fowlingpiece. I don't think that we have ever seen the two of them in the flesh before, and I adored them. I could clearly see why they are the leading experts on the law in London and their presence made sense, given the importance of the to-be-married couple. As much as I dislike the action sink of the opportunity deck mechanic this time, I did like the cards themselves. The writing was good and there were several nice hints and callbacks to earlier adventures in the Shuttered Palace. I liked the wedding ceremony itself. I thought the atmosphere there was excellent. Even if it felt a little abrupt afterwards. I, of course, have to mention it featuring my favourite character, which in itself would have made me buy the story, everything else be damned. And I adored the scene with her, but, as said below, that itself has some reservations. Cons For a story seemed to center so heavily on Feducci and the Captivating Princess I was rather disappointed that they barely even felt like they featured in the story. I got one three-part conversation with each of them, and I didn't feel like I learned anything about the Captivating Princess and the only thing I learned about Feducci I learned from the Bandaged Baron, not Feducci himself. I didn't even get the chance to talk to either of them afterwards. I think that this is the first time that an action sink in a story has actually bothered me. Making the plot-relevant card appear randomly in the deck was very frustrating. I would have by far preferred that there were all pinned storylets, or events that were automatically triggered once you reached a certain level of 'Readiness of the Wedding'. The wedding preparations itself felt... boring. Compared to 'The Stone Guest', where your role as organiser felt interesting and allowed you to weave your own influence into the events and the movie itself, this more or less felt like you were just a glorified servant. I wasn't expecting horrors or revelations like in the Gift, but we have two of Fallen London's most infamous, alluring, and dangerous characters at the centre... and nothing happened. You talked a little with some of the other patrons to gather a few clues and then the couple either wed or politely declined. For the first time in a story I felt like everything I went through was kind of pointless. That might have been inevitable when the story was about something that I really wanted not to happen. Sure, I succeeded in preventing the wedding, but it doesn't feel like I have really won anything from playing it, merely reset the world back to zero where I was before I purchased the story. I feel like if I could achieve the same thing by not playing the story something is wrong. Which leads me to... This might be my personal feelings about the character in question, but if you sabotaged the wedding I would have loved the chance to hint or mention if you did this for the sake of love for the Captivating Princess. (And extend the same courtesy to those that felt likewise for Feducci). The lack of such an option seems especially glaring since we just had exactly that in the end of the Cherry Man story. Merely a hint to the Princess after the broken wedding and a smile in return would have made everything I worked and schemed for so much more worth it and justified it for me. The presence of the Veteran Privy Chancellor. (okay, I am joking here, but please can I just poison his wine with a few drops of cantigaster venom? Pretty please?). . edited by Akernis on 12/19/2017 -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 12/19/2017	Hark DeGaul wrote: For the 'Gad About in the Library' card, can anyone PM me what happens if you're successful on perusing the collection? I must have done that card some 30 times and I don't think I've ever succeeded the Matter of Luck attached to it! Pretty sure there isn't actually a failure result there, as it doesn't say you were fortunate/unlucky in the results. This has happened before for some Renown gain stat challenges. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/19/2017	I think I have encountered a bug. I am at the stage where you dress these two, and I cannot draw cards, I can only play the pinned storylets. I sent a bug report, but can someone confirm I should be able to draw cards at this stage - or that card drawing matters at least? -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Cubane Posts: 11 12/19/2017	Jolanda Swan wrote: I think I have encountered a bug. I am at the stage where you dress these two, and I cannot draw cards, I can only play the pinned storylets. I sent a bug report, but can someone confirm I should be able to draw cards at this stage - or that card drawing matters at least? I saw the same thing and proceeded without drawing any cards. I don't seem to have missed anything and nothing went more awry than I intended. -- Cubane, a specialist in applying the natural sciences (mostly to the pawns of interstellar capital) Willing to mentor like-minded individuals and always up for a bit of chessboxing.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 12/18/2017	[spoiler]After seeing the afterparty...I'm glad I made this wedding happen. The Veteran Privvy Chancellor though his fifth bottle of wine, drunk Lawyers, a man free from debt and a actually happy couple. I consider this a win. ...Of course, this now means I need to change my destiny. Daam it. On the plus side, the Mountain Of Light looks closer then ever for a Destiny I suppose... [/spoiler] -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Delphinia Drael Posts: 14 12/18/2017	I'm quite enjoying the preparations I'm doing so far. (I got a little spooked at one opportunity card that made a...callback to 'The Gift' storyline. A nice touch by the writer.) I don't care much for being spoiled, but I'm partially glad I read this thread before I really got underway. Even though I didn't vote for Feducci and the Captivating Princess and I have a...peculiar friendship, now is as good as a time as ever to be happy and wish happiness for others. After all, was it not the Duchess who said, 'Always look to love. Always.' I can put aside any differences I have for Feducci. These two will have their beautiful wedding, d--n it all. -- "Lady D" - A soulless lady of terrifying and magnanimous proportions. A Crooked-Cross who burned the orphanage down. Currently: Flute Street, I'm coming... Available for calling cards, boxes, and other shenanigans.
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Vortigaunt Posts: 51 12/18/2017	I had been thinking of buying this one, and I normally like Cash's stories, but judging from the reviews, is it worth it? Is there any sort of end reward or effect that makes it worth it? What else could/should I spend 43 Fate on? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vortigaunt
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Sajach Posts: 77 12/19/2017	If it fails you get three scraps of incendiary gossip. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Sajach
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loredeluxe Posts: 106 12/20/2017	Can anyone PM the option where you object and say you love them both? The text makes that option look amazing.
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Plynkes Posts: 631 12/21/2017	So, this business of not being able to draw cards when the game is indicating that you should be able to draw cards? (At the point where you have the storylets called "Preparing the Princess" and "Preparing Feducci" - as reported by a couple of people earlier in this thread) Is this happening to absolutely everyone, or am I just among an unlucky few? -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Plynkes Posts: 631 12/21/2017	I just got a support email confirming that this is indeed the case, Sir Frederick. Seems a bit odd, though. Usually when there are no cards to draw, the game doesn't present you with a full deck and a hand of slots to draw them into, it simply has nothing there at all. That's what puzzled me. -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Passionario Posts: 777 12/19/2017	Has anyone chosen and echoed the options marked as Clearly Unwise, Not Beneficial and Harmful to No One But Yourself? -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 12/19/2017	So do these two actually love one another or are they both implied to be using the other for some sort of personal/political gain? I haven't started the story yet and their reasons for marrying will play a big part in whether Fleshy decides to ruin things or not.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1783 12/19/2017	Having finished the story... Loved the writing, loved the focus on everybody else around the couple (poor butler!) loved the Elder Continent politics. The actual wedding was... a let down. This was an opportunity to see the delegations from Europe, to find out a bit about what happens on the Surface in a world without London. It was a chance to see some Society types, the nobles you keep hearing about. A chance to dress up yourself. After the enormously detailed action-sink that was the Albion wing, the actual event seemed extremely short and two dimensional, painted on a backdrop. I suspect that the general feeling of a let-down in the forums comes in part from this very underwritten wedding scene - the couple is gorgeous, but nobody else save Virginia and the Counsilor is really there. I doubt the story would have generated so much anticipation if it was called "the preparations for the wedding of Feducci". In the end, I chose to disrupt the wedding since a) it was going to bring another war soon and b) the devils wanted it, so it cannot be a good thing. It is a testament to the writing that I felt bad doing so, breaking two happy people apart. Then again, these two eat and/or sell people, so I will survive the guilt. By the way, I do not get the complaints stating that our choices do not matter and nothing changes. I see the very opposite at work. In one version, the Princess is wed, Feducci is consort... in the other, nothing changes. There are two different universes at work here. I cannot fathom how it will work for those who did not play the story. What is the truth in the main game? edited by Jolanda Swan on 12/19/2017 -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 12/19/2017	Thanks, that helps
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Gallmarch Posts: 111 12/21/2017	Plynkes wrote: Is my character meant to be an idiot? Why does it say I ask Feducci "How does it feel to be about to become Prince-Consort?" He's not about to become that. Not unless he's marrying Queen Victoria herself. He's marrying her youngest female child, that gets you an Earldom at best. To be completely fair, there has so far (as of 1895, and indeed as of 2017) been precisely one spouse of a British queen to bear the formal title of Prince Consort, and he is not currently (in any timeline) in much of a position to complain about the usurpation of his title. It's not especially well-established. It's arguable that the Captivating Princess is the first person in the line of succession who is fit to perform the public duties of a monarch, so Feducci might have been on the verge of becoming prince-consort-to-the-heir-presumptive, but that's something of a mouthful and evinces a surprising knowledge of royal protocol for a player character who, let's face it, only fairly recently escaped from New Newgate with the rozzers on their heels. -- My profile: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Gallmarch
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Gallmarch Posts: 111 12/21/2017	Plynkes wrote: So how come Bertie has been cut out of the succession? I thought he was one that wasn't a monster? I don't think anyone but the spouse of a reigning monarch gets called a consort, but I may be wrong there. I feel it would be more likely that Feducci would be made Earl of Somewhere, upgraded to Duke if the princess was confirmed as heir. Ah yes, Edward! This is literally the second time in a week that I've completely forgotten about the eligibility of the poor old Redundant Heir (apparently I really need to play The Gift again). And I'm fairly sure you're right about the usage of 'consort', so yes, I agree, this is probably worth a bug report. (I would submit it myself but I raised a ticket about the spelling of 'protégé' yesterday so I feel like I should behave myself for the next little while.) -- My profile: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Gallmarch
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Plynkes Posts: 631 12/21/2017	No need for a bug report, I don't think. I'm quite happy with the explanation that my character doesn't know a Prince-Consort from a packet of Fig Newtons. -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Jermaine Vendredi Posts: 588 12/22/2017	re. prince consort: An example from the UK monarchy would be Princess Anne, incidentally. Neither of her husbands got any title at all, though her first was offered and declined an Earldom. edited by Jermaine Vendredi on 12/22/2017 -- No plant battles, please. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Jermion
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Plynkes Posts: 631 12/21/2017	Is my character meant to be an idiot? Why does it say I ask Feducci "How does it feel to be about to become Prince-Consort?" He's not about to become that. Not unless he's marrying Queen Victoria herself. He's marrying her youngest female child, that gets you an Earldom at best. -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Saklad Posts: 528 12/25/2017	Oh, and I think everyone is overestimating the importance of the royal family in the Neath. Varchaasis, Iremi, Chelonites, Nookfolk and such probably won’t know and certainly won’t care. edited by Saklad5 on 12/25/2017 -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Jermaine Vendredi Posts: 588 12/23/2017	Sir Frederick wrote: I have another question. What is Feducci wearing, that has to be fastened around the back, shoulders and knees? Sounds to me like breast plate, greaves and cloak. For safety's sake... edited by Jermaine Vendredi on 12/23/2017 -- No plant battles, please. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Jermion
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 12/23/2017	Jermaine Vendredi wrote: Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Do I understand correctly that is some Londons, such as mine, Feducci and the Captivating Princess are not married and in some Londons they are married? It's either the perfect example of solipsism, or a living experiment to prove the parallel universes theory... Eh, pretty standard. Lots of stories have multiple, contradictory endings involving major London figures. Jack of Smiles, the Face-Tailor, several of the Empress' children... -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/23/2017	Sir Frederick wrote: Jermaine Vendredi wrote: Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Do I understand correctly that is some Londons, such as mine, Feducci and the Captivating Princess are not married and in some Londons they are married? It's either the perfect example of solipsism, or a living experiment to prove the parallel universes theory... Eh, pretty standard. Lots of stories have multiple, contradictory endings involving major London figures. Jack of Smiles, the Face-Tailor, several of the Empress' children... I'm not complaining, mind ... just seeking clarification. Well ... maybe I'm complaining a little, because unlike what happens to Jack, the Face-Tailor, the Last Constable, and even the Cheery Man, EVERYONE ... every PC and NPC, every Neathy and Surface power, knows that the Captivating Princess married Feducci ... or didn't. But mostly I just want to be sure I understand the state of the multiverse. [edited for typos ... a lot] edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/23/2017 edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/23/2017 edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 12/23/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 12/23/2017	Sir Frederick wrote: I have another question. What is Feducci wearing, that has to be fastened around the back, shoulders and knees? I assumed it was something like this https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61etmBvorVL._UL1500_.jpg but with more buttons that actually needed buttoning. I missed the bit about the knees. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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