Vexpont
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11/6/2017
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Update: As of November 2018, there is now a new Winking Isle Indicator that works with the revamped FL UI. The link should take you directly there.
In order to progress the Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name (SMEN) storyline on Winking Isle, it's necessary to NOT possess a long list of items. This Style highlights such items on the Bazaar tab, so you can easily sell them. In use, it looks like this:
Winking Isle Contraband Indicator is downloadable from the Stylish site, here.
A quick preamble about Styles: if you want to use them you're nowadays better off applying them not with the original Stylish add-on, but with the fork Stylus, available for Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Here is a bit about why, if you're interested.
Contraband Indicator was inspired by mayexist's Chrome extension Winking Isle Fire Sale Helper, which may be of interest as well.
The following discussion from months ago is just kept in for consistency, and to thank people who helped identify the item numbers of esoteric things and give other advice: dov, Màiread, Estelle Knoht, genesis, Optimatum, xKiv, and Tystefy.
Three hardy souls have already installed it, so I guess it’s time to finish it. But I could use a little help. I don’t yet have the item numbers of the following rare items:
Fabulous Diamond
Rumourmonger's Network
Intriguer's Compendium
Impossible Theorem
Mountain-sherd
Breath of the Void
Veils-Velvet Scrap
Fluke-Core
Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell
I’d be grateful if people who do have them in their inventory could look up their item numbers in the Bazaar tab, and post them in this thread, which I will check (if you find any bloopers, please add them to the thread as well).
This can be done by using Developer on the Firefox menu. You need the Element picker, which is on the top left-hand side of the Developer console: an icon of a box with an arrow pointing to it.
With the Element picker turned on, when you’re looking at your worldly goods on the Bazaar tab (not your inventory on the Myself tab) you’ll see various elements highlighted as you mouseover the screen. In Firefox, the item number will be indicated by a tooltip. Highlighting exactly the right thing is fiddly; you need the mouse pointer at the extreme top or bottom of the item’s slot in the Bazaar list.
Here you can see the info picked out using Firefox:
The example item is Shard of Glim, and its item number is item161.
I believe this is an allowable extension as it’s merely a timesaver. If it proves handy for others, after a bit of try-out time, I'll try to get it whitelisted.
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dov
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11/6/2017
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There are items *necessary* for "Who is Salt?"? Which ones?
As to the missing item codes from your list, here are those I could find myself:
- Intriguer's Compendium: item #348
- Impossible Theorem: item #441
- Fluke-Core: item #458
(FYI - finding these in Chrome is very easy: just right-click on the item (in the Bazaar tab) and choose Inspect)
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Vexpont
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11/6/2017
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dov wrote:
There are items *necessary* for "Who is Salt?"? Which ones?
(FYI - finding these in Chrome is very easy: just right-click on the item (in the Bazaar tab) and choose Inspect)
I am cribbing without shame from the wiki, on which the following curious list of 7 quite-possibly-necessary items (one of each) appears right at the end of preparations to gain the 'Sun Beneath the Sea' quality:
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/No_more_secrets.
My attitude to SMEN is very much 'We're only going to do this once', so I do not know if this information is correct (I may ask the 'Salt' question, even though the end result is said to be rather gnomic). If in fact those seven items are not necessary, and the game only takes one of each away if you happen to have any, I'd be grateful for a heads-up from anyone who knows. But I guess I'd rather have them than not have them, which is why I flagged them up for my convenience.
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As to the missing item codes from your list, here are those I could find myself:
- Intriguer's Compendium: item #348
- Impossible Theorem: item #441
- Fluke-Core: item #458
That was fast. Many thanks.
edited by Vexpont on 11/6/2017
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Màiread
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11/6/2017
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You don't need the items - I did that option yesterday on my Seeker and lost nothing as I didn't have them, but I still gained the quality.
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dov
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11/6/2017
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Those 7 items for "Who is Salt" are things you need to *not* have, like all other Winking Isle preparation steps.
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Màiread
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11/6/2017
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I think they were referring to the brass, foxfire candle, soul etc which you lose when playing that option, not the enigma & co which prevent you from doing so.
And since I forgot to say it before, cool style extension thing! I would've found it immensely helpful.
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dov
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11/6/2017
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Màiread wrote:
I think they were referring to the brass, foxfire candle, soul etc which you lose when playing that option, not the enigma & co which prevent you from doing so.
Oh, I see.
Still not a requirement for playing this option (you lose nothing if you don't have these).
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Estelle Knoht
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11/6/2017
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Fabulous Diamond 377
Rumourmonger's Network 349
Intriguer's Compendium 348
Impossible Theorem 441
Mountain-sherd 730
Breath of the Void 352
Fluke-Core 458
Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell 347
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Vexpont
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11/6/2017
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dov wrote:
Màiread wrote:
I think they were referring to the brass, foxfire candle, soul etc which you lose when playing that option, not the enigma & co which prevent you from doing so.
Oh, I see.
Still not a requirement for playing this option (you lose nothing if you don't have these).
Yes, that's what I had in mind: the 7 low-level items, of which you mysteriously lose one unit each on gaining The Sun Beneath the Sea. It's handy to know about the 'only if you actually have any' bit (I try not to look ahead, especially with SMEN, but there are limits to my frustration tolerance and if a whole lot of preparations were for naught because I lacked 1 rat-on-a-string at a critical stage, I think I might gibber, just a little). I'll take that part of the highlighting out, because I want the indicator system to be as simple as possible.
Although it's not quite complete in terms of listing all the forbidden items, I thought I'd put the Style up for a look-over here, as there must be more Seeking-complete people here than anywhere else. Thanks to all for the help so far.
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Vexpont
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11/6/2017
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Pointless yellow highlighting now removed, leaving just red (all Seekers) and blue (Salt Seekers only).
Thanks to some sterling efforts, the style, which is inspired by this Seeking word-replacer, is nearly done. The unknown item numbers are down to four (I hope -- but embarrassingly, three are ones I hadn't noticed before):
Veils-Velvet Scrap
Vial of Masters' Blood
A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book
Scrap of Ivory Organza
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dov
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- Vial of Masters' Blood: item #422
- A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book: item can't be sold to the Bazaar. Any idea how to find the item number?
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genesis
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11/6/2017
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dov wrote:
- A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book: item can't be sold to the Bazaar. Any idea how to find the item number?
If you have it, put it on your mantlepiece and do the same inspect in Chrome
In fact, no need for the mantlepiece. It works just from the inventory for me. But i don't have the book to check myself
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Optimatum
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11/6/2017
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dov wrote:
- A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book: item can't be sold to the Bazaar. Any idea how to find the item number?
It can be sold to the Bazaar, just not for cash.
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dov
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Optimatum wrote:
dov wrote:
- A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book: item can't be sold to the Bazaar. Any idea how to find the item number?
It can be sold to the Bazaar, just not for cash.
Ah. Found it, thanks.
A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book: Item #520
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dov
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genesis wrote:
In fact, no need for the mantlepiece. It works just from the inventory for me. But i don't have the book to check myself
I wonder where. I don't see any item ID when inspecting items in the inventory tab.
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genesis
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Ah no, you are quite right. I was confusing the Bazaar item number with that item's quality id number
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xKiv
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11/6/2017
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Ivory organza: item343
veils scrap: item344
a sealed copy of the crimson book totally can be sold to the bazaar. it's between a whirring contraption and eager glove, because it sells for only 6.25 hundreds of touching love stories. item520
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Vexpont
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11/6/2017
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xKiv wrote:
Ivory organza: item343
veils scrap: item344
...and I think that's the lot. A mere 6 hours to get some obscure-ish info that I found it hard to track down myself. My thanks to all contributors and Seekers, both current and completed; I will submit the Style for whitelisting, and pour an appreciative tot of honey down certain nameless wells.
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Tystefy
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11/7/2017
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I never thought of those items as contraband.
It actually makes sense.
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