Lamia Lawless
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10/27/2017
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Lamia Lawless wrote:
I didn't know Fiacre's was in Spite or Southwark's was in Ladybones until this ES.
Southwark Cathedral is actually a real place - it would be right by the Bazaar Sidestreets - but, because only POSI have access to that area, I imagine the Bishop was in residence at a West End boxing gym to make him more accessible. St Fiacre's is very likely a renamed St Paul's, which more or less marks the boundary between Veilgarden and Spite.
Ah! Thank you for sharing this. Now I know. 
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Plynkes
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10/27/2017
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Yes, Southwark is south of the river. One of the spires of the Bazaar is still there today, even though we have brought London back to the surface. Folks generally call it the Shard nowadays, and have forgotten its original nature and purpose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shard
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BillyCosmos!
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10/27/2017
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Exceptional friendship?
About $7.06 a month.
Dosing an ecclesiastical synod with psychedelics?
Priceless.
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BillyCosmos!
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10/27/2017
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Plynkes wrote:
Yes, Southwark is south of the river. One of the spires of the Bazaar is still there today, even though we have brought London back to the surface. Folks generally call it the Shard nowadays, and have forgotten its original nature and purpose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shard
Okay. First of all, that was awesome. I want to get that right out of the way because I don't want to forget to say it. I almost did, and it was because when I opened the link (I've only seen it on TV, as I live on the other side of the Atlantic. That's right, the underside. It's quite damp at the bottom.) I saw something hilariously perverse. The architectural style - neo-futurism. Neo-futurism? Is that redundant, oxymoron, or both?
It's certainly a very modern building, except of course that we're well past post-modern now which may be why we need a new future. Probably because even though what's modern is now and what comes after now is the future, the future was before the modern and thus well before after modern, which is like the future, except that it wasn't.
This modern future we live in now is vastly different from the future a hundred years ago, that much is certain. The future's modern, (that is, the futurist's future, which was modern) was likewise very different from our modern modernism, which is that new future, so expecting now to be like now begins to seem foolhardy. Or it certainly was, now that I'm looking back at now from now.
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Julius de Poisson
Posts: 35
10/28/2017
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Am I doing something wrong? I started the storyline with the cartographer last night, pursued an urchin and saw the new diocese map. Then went to Watchmaker's Hill and saw there was a storylet there to continue but it was late and I left it. Today I can't see how to pick it up again - am I missing something?
Edit: I figured it out, i.e. through the Season of Sceptres. I must have clicked on the urchin storylet last night, it was late and I may have been drunk...
edited by Julius de Poisson on 10/28/2017
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Snowskeeper
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10/28/2017
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BillyCosmos! wrote:
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It's neither redundant nor an oxymoron. Neo-futurism just means "futurism that is new." There is an older style of futurism which is not the same as neo-futurism. They could have called it something different, but because stylistic names are frequently descriptive, and because the older school of futurism is still in use, they decided not to.
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Cthonius
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10/28/2017
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Snowskeeper wrote:
BillyCosmos! wrote:
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It's neither redundant nor an oxymoron. Neo-futurism just means "futurism that is new." There is an older style of futurism which is not the same as neo-futurism. They could have called it something different, but because stylistic names are frequently descriptive, and because the older school of futurism is still in use, they decided not to.
The difference between the futurism of architecture that looks like Apple designed it, and a vision of the future looking like a 50's raygun, to give some supporting examples. Modernism, Futurism, etc aren't vague terms referring to the modern or the futuristic, but all specific artistic movements with relatively strict definitions.
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Jules Asimov
Posts: 95
10/28/2017
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Is there any benefit to becoming a bishop gameplay-wise other than the fact you can call yourself one?
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Lord Alexander Alderman
Posts: 62
10/28/2017
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I know this is a bit off topic, but the art definitely looks like something that would show up in Skies. Just had to say.
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Urthdigger
Posts: 939
10/28/2017
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I really hope people start calling me "The bish"
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Anchovies
Posts: 421
10/28/2017
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When you just want to enjoy a peaceful stroll through the bog, but a crowd of clergy are making a mess of the place so you have to lurk behind their tents
Cthonius wrote:
Also I feel it fitting and comical to refer to this mysterious figure as Bugsby That drunk we talked to at the Medusa's Head was telling the truth! Bugsby is real! It's a swamp-mas miracle!
On a more serious note, this ES is beautiful. I'm strongly reminded of The Century Exhibition and All Things Must End. I'm quite fond of stories which focus on worldbuilding, and which make good use of Storynexus's capacity for nonlinear or branching story paths.
I also enjoyed being able to flesh out my own character's attitudes towards and interactions with the church. As an agent of the New Sequence, Anchovies isn't an enemy of the church, but they do think it could use a little redirection... Speaking of the New Sequence, I love the passing reference to "the Royal Navy and their “engines powered by colours”" in the result text for engaging in fungal shenanigans.
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Passionario
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10/28/2017
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Jules Asimov wrote:
Is there any benefit to becoming a bishop gameplay-wise other than the fact you can call yourself one?
You can move diagonally in the Great Game.
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Diptych
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10/28/2017
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"Okay, Devious - don't move!"
"The Bishop!"
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Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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John Moose
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10/28/2017
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Will being a bishop and an unbishop cancel each other out?
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Diptych
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10/28/2017
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Hubris isn't sure but he intends to find out.
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Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 755
10/28/2017
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Jules Asimov wrote:
Is there any benefit to becoming a bishop gameplay-wise other than the fact you can call yourself one?
I would like to know this...
ExceptionallyDelicious wrote:
Can you change your preferred form of address to Bishop again if you decide to switch back to what it was before?
..and this myself, too. This is yet another case of "choose more 'exclusive' choice in the hopes of better rewards, or play in-character" which I seem to get stuck on almost every ES.
Jolanda Swan wrote:
nothing beats a nun in chainmail
I don't know, maybe the good Southwark might.
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xKiv
Posts: 846
10/28/2017
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John Moose wrote:
Will being a bishop and an unbishop cancel each other out?
That leads to being both. You will be bibishop.
edited by xKiv on 10/28/2017
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Edward Warren
Posts: 120
10/29/2017
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I admit, I too have a soft spot for these roleplaying-centric stories, where the focus isn't in unraveling a big mystery or some grand adventure, just interacting with people and getting to explore who our character is as a person. I liked that we finally got to explore a bit more about the workings of the Church, as I feel they're one of the more interesting factions in the Neath. Seeing how they've somehow sunk into somewhat obscurity nowadays, it's nice to see them fleshed out a bit and see a faction that's not preoccupied with just "smashing those bloody devils grrr". I enjoyed the synod and was amused by the outcome (being me being appointed bishop), but had a few real peeves with the whole thing.
- Needless Action Point costs- It really shouldn't be necessary for the character to have to spend so many AP to find out about the Synod. We've had events in the past where talking is a free action. Unless there's a good reason as to why talking should cost AP (such as sparring with the bishop of southwark) this point it really feels like adding filler to an otherwise quick story.
- Open-Ended Abrupt Ending- I actually agonized quite a bit over my choice at the end, and was surprised how little it felt like my choice meant anything. The whole Synod built up how these two factions of the Church were at each others throats and then.... everyone just kind of went home? After Five Minutes to Midday and Hojotoho! established ES can have effects on our London, I'm disappointed I won't be able to later head over and see how St.Fiacre's hospital is doing, or an opportunity card illustrating Church bullyboys harassing the drunk and soulless with the Sourthwark Candidate in charge.
- The overall straightforward course of the Synod as a whole.- As a ES that focused on the political intrigues of the Church, I was somewhat disappointed how little seemed to occur at the Synod itself. Unless I'm mistaken there doesn't seem to be much affect to influencing the assembly towards one side or the other as long as one has enough influence at the end.
- The focus seemed to be very much all over the place near the end.- Looking back it doesn't seem like the ES didn't seem to know what it was trying to be, which really shined through by the end. We start out running around town trying to find out about this Synod deal, find out there's two factions trying to claim a new diocese to further their own agendas... but when we get there we get bogged down *rimshot* with Shrek and his gripe with all these guys suddenly chilling in his swamp. I wouldn't have minded that as much if it had been done well, but without a proper conclusion to his subplot it feels as if Shrek served no real point, and time spent hanging out with him could have been better spent fleshing out other characters attending the Synod.
I know this makes it sound like I didn't like the ES, but I really did. It's just looking back, it seems like the whole thing was an interesting idea that was lacking in the actual execution. I will certainly enjoy being able to call myself The Bishop as I shamelessly get wasted at my local honey den and dabble in the soul trade, yet find myself yearning for more. The abrupt ending has me hoping that there could be a sequel sometime in the future that has us managing a Church project in the Marsh while at the same time fighting off the encroaching supernatural weirdness.
Whatever the case, it's all ogre now.
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Anchovies
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10/29/2017
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If the synod is influenced to elect the player character as bishop, does the player then get to choose between the plans put forward by Southwark and St Fiacre's?
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Pnakotic
Posts: 266
10/29/2017
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“Look at the tents. Sagging canvas, sinking into the mire. The earth itself rejects them.”
Great line.... reminds me of a short film I saw a few years ago: https://youtu.be/ZcDXYYPhdAs
(fair warning: some gore, very creepy)
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