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It's amazing! It's a hallowmas miracle!
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Plynkes
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10/26/2017
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Tuesday: Hallowmas. No new art. People complain.
Thursday: His Amused Lordship. New art. People complain.
LoL. Working at Failbetter must be a hoot. I bet they must really love us. 
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IMPRESSIONISTS "BROADLY UNCONCERNED"
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Kukapetal
Posts: 1449
10/26/2017
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EEK! No more realistic artwork please! The cartoony style is what makes the artwork so endearing and gives it so much personality.
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Anne Auclair
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10/26/2017
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Plynkes wrote:
Well, people have variously said they are insulted, upset, anguished, don't see the need for it, and have requested that we have no more art like this. Personally I don't think it unreasonable to call that complaining, but you are entitled to your own interpretation.
Oh, I somehow missed those posts about his beard color. Perils of doing multiple things at once.
You know, his Amused Lordship, under all his good natured life loving bluster, is clearly afraid of death. He probably dyed his hair red to feel younger. Older men do that, there are commercials for those products and everything :P
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Anchovies
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I am not at all pleased with this artwork. The new, more lifelike portraits have been generally very good so far. Thunderbrows? Superb. But this. Not so much.
There is a man who visited me in my time as governor of Port Carnelian. On a moon-bridge he stopped me, and there he promised me, "Soon."
That man's beard is brown.
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Kukapetal
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10/26/2017
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I guess i just don't see the need for the realistic style at all. I mean, most of the new artist's work fits with the style of the game. It's a touch more realistic, but still cartoony enough where it still blends in. Even the realistic pictures are done well, they're just......REALLY jarring compared to the other pictures. And they're especially jarring when they turn characters we know and love (and who already have perfectly fine portraits) into people we don't recognize.
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Anne Auclair
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10/26/2017
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It actually was not all that uncommon for turn-of-the-century art exhibits to provoke massive public controversies and even riots :P Certain avant garde performers, like the Futurists, even made the provocation of riots a deliberate part of their program (they later played up the whole "we bloodied our fists" angle very heavily when trying to solicit patronage from Mussolini).
Anyway, I very much like the new art (which as gronostaj astutely pointed out, isn't totally realistic). Although my favorite FL art so far has to be the crisp, heavily stylized posters we saw during the 1894 Election.
I think these conveyed far more than the candidate's face and I was honestly a little disappointed when I saw that they had switched to a more portrait style art, lovely as it was (particularly for the Campaigner). I like the portrait style, but not as much as I like abstraction and symbolism.
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Siankan
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10/27/2017
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I like the style, I really like the realistic look of the majority of the new art.
But as others have noted, he doesn't look amused.
What he looks like is the Topsy King playing dress-up.
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Kukapetal
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10/26/2017
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Yeah, I'm probably in the minority, but I just LOVE the older style, despite its flaws. It just had SO much personality. I especially love how most of the characters had "cartoon eyes" (just white with a pupil). Made them so expressive. There were plenty of characters I'd normally be apathetic toward or even dislike, whose artwork nonetheless won me over (The Mooching Artist, Scarred naturalist, Provost of Summerset, and Sear-Eyed Visionary all come to mind). It's like, I know they're a-holes, but their artwork makes them such ENDEARING a-holes :P
I guess I'd be sad to lose that aspect of the artwork, even if it's replaced by something that's better from a technical standpoint.
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a Nice Friend
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10/26/2017
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Teaspoon
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10/26/2017
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Kukapetal wrote:
EEK! No more realistic artwork please! The cartoony style is what makes the artwork so endearing and gives it so much personality.
I must admit, I find this a sympathetic position.
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MidnightVoyager
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10/26/2017
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It definitely looks.... strange? next to all the other stuff. Even newer things. I think it's something about the flecks in the beard and around the edges of his figure making him look like a JPEG artifact.
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Kaijyuu
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10/26/2017
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Plynkes wrote:
Tuesday: Hallowmas. No new art. People complain.
Thursday: His Amused Lordship. New art. People complain.
LoL. Working at Failbetter must be a hoot. I bet they must really love us.
This is what happens when you get a any significant number of people interested in your work. People like it for a variety of reasons, so any change will be met with resistance from some subset. Very notably, since people often get this wrong, the complaining is from different subsets; it's not like there's some small group of people who will complain about everything, but rather, for every change, there is a small subset that will complain about that particular thing.
Honestly they should take it as a complement; it means people are invested. If no one complained, that means no one cares. Though of course, there's still proper etiquette to consider; people need to be respectful both in their criticism and their response to their peer's criticism.
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Anne Auclair
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10/26/2017
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A new portrait for his Amused Lordship would also come in handy if he were to, say, run for Mayor. I understand a few people have nominated him.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
10/26/2017
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I don't mind the new portrait, I have just grown fond of the old one; it'll just take me a few weeks to get used to it. Habit and familiarity are things Fallen London breeds, so I can definitely understand why changes to it can bother people.
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10/26/2017
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My wild guess is that the upcoming Dilmun Club content update will feature new artwork, and H.A.L.'s old art would look out of place with the new stuff.
Makes sense. We know that the Dilmun Club is the next major content update for this year. Here are the three sponsors:
  
Of course, there are other images of them used. For example, the Implacable Detective's business card still uses this image:
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Plynkes
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Well, people have variously said they are insulted, upset, anguished, don't see the need for it, and have requested that we have no more art like this. Personally I don't think it unreasonable to call that complaining, but you are entitled to your own interpretation.
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Kaijyuu
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10/26/2017
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Personally I'm of the opinion that stylized is plain superior to realistic in almost all cases. When conveying emotion and feel it's easier and more effective the less unnecessary detail you have.
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gronostaj
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10/26/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
Personally I'm of the opinion that stylized is plain superior to realistic in almost all cases. When conveying emotion and feel it's easier and more effective the less unnecessary detail you have.
i actually agree, though in my opinion, most the new portraits have a healthy degree of stylisation to them (just look at feducci's unbelieveably narrow chin or DTC's big moe eyes,) which gives them a nice, lively flair while still keeping them appealing.
the style of the old portraits is fine, but the technical aspect isn't always very good, which is why i think failbetter is slowly revamping them; they just didn't age all that well
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Anchovies
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10/26/2017
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I guess i just don't see the need for the realistic style at all. I mean, most of the new artist's work fits with the style of the game. It's a touch more realistic, but still cartoony enough where it still blends in. Even the realistic pictures are done well, they're just......REALLY jarring compared to the other pictures. And they're especially jarring when they turn characters we know and love (and who already have perfectly fine portraits) into people we don't recognize. You've expressed my largely incoherent anguish in a very nice way. I agree on all points.
I think the lifelike portraits work very well for Exceptional Stories, because they're set slightly apart from the rest of the game. The striking realism makes for a great attention-grabber to stick at the top of a forum thread or in a banner at the top of the page. It can also seem out of place among the largely silhouette-based older artwork, much of which is not at all in need of replacement.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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10/26/2017
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a Nice Friend wrote:
His Amused Lordship was always a Brian Blessed, and now he is more so.
edit: here is a re-hosted version for people who can't see
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I AM FOREVER IN YOUR DEBT FOR SHOWING ME THIS BEAUTIFUL GENTLEMAN, FRIEND.
Hyperbole aside, while I do believe his beard could do with some darkening to a brown or reddish-brown, overall I think the design is absolutely gorgeous. So long as both images get used in-game, I think I'll be just fine swooning over Mr Blessed incarnate.
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I'm pretty partial to the old Lordship, myself. There's something about that blocky beard, the squinted eyes, the gritted teeth in what can loosely be described as a permanent smile. The new art's pretty alright by itself, but it's just... either missing the charm, or having a completely different charm, you know? And I'm not really a fan of red beards, either.
But hey, it's all opinion, really. And I can see why people'd like the new design. That beard's pretty majestic, red or not.
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Lord Alexander Alderman
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10/27/2017
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I think the new pictures have preserved a lot of the charm and added a lot of nice details. But this one just seems off, why did they make the beard such a fiery red? Why are there such odd colors in it? It looks like something weird happened to the portrait as they transferred it to the game from where they made it, It does in fact look like some sort of jpeg artifact snuck in . I also agree that the smile doesn't look right, the squint makes him look half asleep and the smile looks like a cross between a forced cheesy grin and an unkind smirk. Its a blemish on the collection of new art. If those issues get fixed it would look great like the other new ones.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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I personally have to disagree, I've been loving the new art style. For me, I've always loved the cartoony imagery in the game, so seeing the newer versions of the same drawings under a slightly more realistic take has been entertaining. It's let the artists take some creative liberty redoing popular characters that takes on as a new variant of the FL artwork we know rather than the permanent replacement to shove out the older stuff. That's not to say you're wrong, per se, since it mostly comes down to preference. I just think we have different tastes, is all.
On a side note, I feel personally robbed that I wasn't able to see His Lordship's recently-dyed red beard and will not rest until this curiosity has been sated.
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a Nice Friend
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10/26/2017
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His Amused Lordship was always a Brian Blessed, and now he is more so.
edit: here is a re-hosted version for people who can't see
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Anchovies
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10/26/2017
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The His Amused Lordship which FBG spent several years establishing in their game looks like this:
It's frankly a little insulting to get my own experience with the game trampled on without so much as a "hey, we're changing some character portraits". FBG doesn't exactly owe that to me or the playerbase at large, but it's still a shock.
edit: and yes, I too think that the lifelike portraits are good but should not be ubiquitous. This game ranges into styles which the slightly-cartoonish artwork can work very well for.
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maleclypse
Posts: 259
10/26/2017
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I saw it on Ask the Sardonic Music Hall Singer for help
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a Nice Friend
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10/26/2017
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If you have any Zee-Ztories you can click on them in your inventory and take a look.
He's looking very amused and very red.
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Kaijyuu
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10/26/2017
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
I'm...confused. When I look at my Zee-Stories, all I see is the usual picture for him. Can anyone explain?
Browser cache. Sometimes you can force the new image with ctrl+F5. If that doesn't work, you can go into your history settings and clear the cache manually. That will force the new artwork to be downloaded.
I like the previous art better. In fact I almost universally like the old art for things; it was shoddy and amateurish but it was full of life.
...With the exception of the old male devil; that one was pretty bad.
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Anne Auclair
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10/26/2017
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I don't really see any complaining. Just differing aesthetic sentiments and some nostalgia.
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Passionario
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10/26/2017
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My wild guess is that the upcoming Dilmun Club content update will feature new artwork, and H.A.L.'s old art would look out of place with the new stuff.
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MidnightVoyager wrote:
It definitely looks.... strange? next to all the other stuff. Even newer things. I think it's something about the flecks in the beard and around the edges of his figure making him look like a JPEG artifact. Definitely agree. The JPEG comparison is especially on-point.
It's a good portrait by itself, but it very much feels... not FL. His Amused Lordship just stands out like a very sore thumb among most other artwork in the game now.
And I have not a single clue as to what the teal stuff on his brows is. Or why he suddenly dyed his beard redder than the fires of hell.
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10/26/2017
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Oh, you :P
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10/26/2017
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You be the judge.
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Lady Karnstein
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10/26/2017
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Seems to be to me.
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10/26/2017
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I hope I hope the return to the Dilmun Club lets us change our patrons. I choose poorly, back when we knew very little about these characters!
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10/26/2017
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Probably in the middle of updating it. To leprechaun mode. (I love his new picture)
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10/26/2017
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I love the new art, this one and in general, and it's always such a thrill whenever some of the old art gets revamped. A lot of the old icons were endearing, but somewhat crude and awkward, while the new ones almost always have much stronger personality to them (and are also plain more skillful art. that's right, i'm shallow).
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I like the style, I really like the realistic look of the majority of the new art.
But as others have noted, he doesn't look amused. His Lordship looks as though he had his image taken during the midst of a drunken cough.
Perhaps it's the eyes? Maybe the image looks worse via mobile? I cannot be certain.
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10/26/2017
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I like it, I think my only complaint is it seems a bit more..painty? Then the rest of their newer art but I don't mind it that much
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10/27/2017
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The red is way OTT. Can I have the contents of my cache back, please?
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10/26/2017
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He is BRIAN BLESSED, right?
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John Moose wrote:
Oooh, very exciting. Sounds like Dilmun is getting closer. I can't wait to see Tobias's take on Elder Continent stuff, if that's what's coming up. Maybe a sneak peek of that in this season's ending in Vesture?
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I really dislike this one, actually. All portrait updates so far have simply improved the graphics; this one (for some reason) is in a different style. And what's up with making his beard red all of a sudden?
I think the old one was a whole lot better at showing his personality too. Just look at that grin and wrinkles!
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Anne Auclair wrote:
A new portrait for his Amused Lordship would also come in handy if he were to, say, run for Mayor. I understand a few people have nominated him.
"A vote for His Amused Lordship is a vote for eternity and escaping the mortal coil that binds us all in the Chain." -HAL's campaign manager, probably
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