 dov Posts: 2580
10/24/2017
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alekth wrote:
You could get to Renown: Urchins 40, go into the mind of the dead god, and keep refusing their gift. A good source for Aeolian Screams as well, and I don't believe the wounds quality is capped there It's not. When I was there, I've used all my Stormy-Eyed (except the last CP which I use to accept the gift), to gain 189 Aeolian Screams (and as many Wounds).
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 Reused NPC Posts: 259
10/24/2017
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Can someone advise me on something? I'm currently trying to do Making Waves grind for Hallowmas. I have two options: Go to Zee, get a Plated Seal and some Cryptozoological Notes, and use them to create a Hound of Heaven and therefore a Bifurcated Owl. That'll bump my BDR up from 16 to 18, but it'll take a lot of actions. Or, I could go on side-converting my items. Which would be better for the grind up to 8? (And is what I'm hearing in regards to going up to 9 instead true despite how slow I may be going?)
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 earthbourn Posts: 149
10/24/2017
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The Owl is definitely worth your while, I would say. Increasing it from 16 to 18 would save you 71 CP of MW each time you grind from N8 to N9, 63 from N7 to N8, and so on. You can grab up the Seal on your way out to Bullbone Island the first time, and it'll probably take you two trips to the island to get 500 crypto notes, if you don't have any yet (if you have extra collated research or other items to trade for notes, you could probably cut it down to one Bullbone trip). Overall, a big time saver in the long run, even when you add up 2-3 zee voyages and 1-2 Bullbone carousels (you don't have to go through the breeding carousels in the Labyrinth when breeding the Owl).
That said, it's going to take a while to reach N8/9 with 18 BDR. Just going from N8 to N9 at that level takes over 550 CP of MW. (The reason people are saying N9 instead of N8 is because you can't force-draw the Amanuensis card without at least one point of Notability. So, if you spend all 8 points and go to zero, you have to wait to draw it again to reach level 1, and you're wasting grinding time.) edited by earthbourn on 10/24/2017 edited by earthbourn on 10/24/2017
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 earthbourn Posts: 149
10/24/2017
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One more note: If you're only planning to grind for one additional confession (and therefore only grinding to N8), the Owl will still save you time. 18 BDR saves you 280 CP MW over 16 BDR, assuming you start at N1. So that's somewhere between 100-200 actions faster than converting, depending on how fast you can get what you need at zee and get back.
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 Reused NPC Posts: 259
10/24/2017
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Gotcha. I'll be out to Zee tomorrow morning, then. And perhaps consider a Ratwork Velocipede.
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 Daedalus_Falk Posts: 234
10/24/2017
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
Daedalus_Falk wrote:
If you've romanced the Artist's Model, but are not married to her, then an opportunity card will come up with Standard Frequency where she asks you to deal with an unwanted lover. If you beat him up, Forceful will rise to a maximum of 4. Apparently, I have Courting The Artist's Model 1, but I've never seen that card come up. I assume there are no conveniently grindable sources?
The card only comes up when you finish the Artist's Model plot: if you have the "courting" quality, it means you aren't finished with her yet. Follow her story to the end, and then the card in question will unlock.
You can also grind it fairly easily if you've gotten to the point in the game where you must capture beasts for Mr. Inch.
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 navchaa Posts: 561
10/24/2017
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earthbourn wrote:
The Owl is definitely worth your while, I would say. Increasing it from 16 to 18 would save you 71 CP of MW each time you grind from N8 to N9, 63 from N7 to N8, and so on. You can grab up the Seal on your way out to Bullbone Island the first time, and it'll probably take you two trips to the island to get 500 crypto notes, if you don't have any yet (if you have extra collated research or other items to trade for notes, you could probably cut it down to one Bullbone trip). Overall, a big time saver in the long run, even when you add up 2-3 zee voyages and 1-2 Bullbone carousels (you don't have to go through the breeding carousels in the Labyrinth when breeding the Owl).
That said, it's going to take a while to reach N8/9 with 18 BDR. Just going from N8 to N9 at that level takes over 550 CP of MW. (The reason people are saying N9 instead of N8 is because you can't force-draw the Amanuensis card without at least one point of Notability. So, if you spend all 8 points and go to zero, you have to wait to draw it again to reach level 1, and you're wasting grinding time.) edited by earthbourn on 10/24/2017 edited by earthbourn on 10/24/2017
My view is to stop at N8 and wait for the card (assuming you have the time to draw cards frequently), using the extra actions to regroup. I typically use tier 3 conversions and need to get across the abyss from absinthe to visions of the surface. Or even the double jumps when you have stacks of 1000 or so.
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 navchaa Posts: 561
10/24/2017
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Skinnyman wrote:
Is the Gambling Den worth getting only for the MW option? It does cost about 26 E with a modified watchful of 290 and the nice part is that you can pile Night on the Town and gain an extra Bohemian Favour. 11-70 MW boost looks nice specially when you need it, but is it really worth it?
I no longer find it particularly useful because it’s so hit and miss (understandably, considering it’s gambling). Nights on the town are expensive as it costs 22 (?) compromising documents to make. Also, the option can be very expensive as you can lose over 20 echoes and not gain much MW from it. I tend to use it as a backup option when I’m on the last push to the next level, and not regularly as part of the main MW grind.
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 Fl4meandFury Posts: 4
10/25/2017
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Planning to sell the location of the Cave to the Great Game, as revolutionaries are a shady lot, and devils and urchins don't pay enough. My question is should I sell the location of the prince? I know you need it to upgrade lodgings, but I'm planning to do that this christmas, and the money is awfully tempting.
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
10/26/2017
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The only other way to get a Location is by grinding up 3200 scraps, which takes a really long time since it's entirely card-based. So the question is, would you rather have money now or have a rare item without needing to grind later?
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 Kaijyuu Posts: 1047
10/26/2017
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If you're not a collector I say sell it. If you collect useless junk like I do, keep it. edited by Kaijyuu on 10/26/2017
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 Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770
10/26/2017
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The Location is also necessary in a certain Ambition.
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 Dudebro Pyro Posts: 756
10/26/2017
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Yes, but that Ambition provides an easy and cheap way to obtain the Location right there (I think it costs, like, 100 echoes? Which is a 95% discount).
On the other hand, if you ever plan on Seeking but aren't certain on going North, I think the Location is one of the items that must be given up? On the other hand, neither scraps nor the path to the Nadir need to be gotten rid of to Seek, so unless you're either 100% certain you'll never meddle with the Name or 100% certain you'll go all the way, consider not cashing out.
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 Fl4meandFury Posts: 4
10/26/2017
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Well, I'm not seeking the Name as I made an alt plus I'm not going to grind bundles of oddities for my soul back anyways, so I'm probably going to sell it. Thanks for your opinions everyone!
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 Kaijyuu Posts: 1047
10/26/2017
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Anyone else's Time the Healer been late this week? If so, by about how much?
It's going on 6+ hours late for me, and I don't want to lose any more making waves than I have to right now.
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 DonaghyLogan Posts: 205
10/26/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
Anyone else's Time the Healer been late this week? If so, by about how much?
It's going on 6+ hours late for me, and I don't want to lose any more making waves than I have to right now.
Yeah, I've had a similar problem. It's definitely been about 12 hours for me. Thank goodness I'm not alone!
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 Siankan Posts: 1048
10/26/2017
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What's the proper channel for reporting typos? Is it the support email? (I should know the answer to this, but I've also been up since 4 a.m. [quite unintentionally], so I'm not precisely at the top of my game.)
Edited to fix a typo in my own message. Oh, the irony! edited by Siankan on 10/26/2017
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 Plynkes Posts: 631
10/26/2017
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Oh, Call in Favours in the Flit, where have you gone, my dear? Do you not love me any longer? It feels like weeks since we were last together. I need you! The Liberation of Night isn't going to advance itself now, is it?
I wonder why that one is a card, when the other comparable ones are permanent residents of their respective areas. Anybody have an idea?
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 a Nice Friend Posts: 127
10/26/2017
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Probably because it's very good.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
10/26/2017
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Those were the first three factions that changed to favours and renown. If I remember correctly that is when it became a card as cashing in favours gave more than cashing in connection. I have no idea why it hasn't been changed back to a storylet now that the other factions give similar values.
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