Waterpls
Posts: 326
10/21/2017
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I hope reward is the access to Persuasive-related tier 4 Professions. But its probably a long shot.
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
10/22/2017
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Huh, you guys are right. And I thought only of a laurel wreath... only there are no laurels in the Neath... so what would it be made of?
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Diptych
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10/22/2017
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Something hardy, I assume, to survive in such conditions.
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1789
10/22/2017
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Yes, it would not be mushrooms and tentacles, would it now?
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Anakhi
Posts: 5
10/22/2017
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Hi there, fellow poets.
Cycling through 24-inspired songs (or other 24-insp. projects with the honey-option) works like a charm for me; 17 APC (actions per cycle, including the choice of your project and the start of a new cycle) for 2 CP of FP brings us to a rather quick way of obtaining PL-status (after all, what are 140-150 cycles for a qualified Neather?). You can always dump your moon-pearls at the Bazaar and buy stockpiles of prisoner's' honey (1.5k of moon-pearls worth 15 echoes; 375 honey worth 15 echoes; 15 echoes/1.5k pearls as a bonus), which leads us to the point of having 15 Echoes per 17 Actions, or roughly 0.88 EPA. Not even close to the best EPA-cycles, but hey - who needs Echoes if you can become the biggest poet of the Neath? Also, those pearls are quite beautiful when measured in thousands.
And don't forget to factor in the rare success of honey-to-inspired conversion when you lose no honey and gain one sapphire. Meager 0.12 Echo on a 10 percent (rough estimate) basis, but it still matters on the long run.
By the way, Persuasive stat level requirements change for higher PL-levels, but the check difficulty remains the same; 94% success chance with Persuasive 237 for PL 1, 2 and 3. Anyone else noticed this? I wonder about higher levels of PL; if the check stays the same, the stat-cap for it might be considerably lower than 300 (or even 290? 120 for PL3; might as well be 290 for PL20).
Another rough estimate: if we need 150 cycles at 17 APC (and 21 action to become PL - 20 to cache in FP for PL-levels, twenty-first to obtain status), we need only 2571 actions for the whole grind, bringing us ~2.24k Echoes in the process (with no rare successes on our way). Not the worst/longest grind in the Neath, all things considered, and some of the new options are quite hillarious.
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Waterpls
Posts: 326
10/22/2017
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>>>You can always dump your moon-pearls at the Bazaar and buy stockpiles of prisoner's' honey
Buying anything at Bazaar is generally bad idea, except when there is no other decent sources.
I personally stick to The Lead option. Maybe not as fast (20 actions to get 24 inspired), but EpA is decent.
Not sure which is better: moonpearls or jade. Need more research on converting absurd amount of them into something more useful.
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Kaigen
Posts: 530
10/23/2017
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A Rousing Hymn gives you Foxfire Candle Stubs, which can be exchanged in bulk for Rostygold, along with a Mystery of the Elder Continent and a Church Favour, from a card drawn in Spite. Handy if you're like me and frequently pour Rostygold into funding comedic performances from the Young Stags and zee trips.
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Waterpls
Posts: 326
10/23/2017
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Thanks, its very useful.
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Anakhi
Posts: 5
10/23/2017
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Oh, and one of the new songs gives you rostygold, not pearls/stubs. In case you don't like waiting for opportunities and want your (rosty)gold here and now.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
10/23/2017
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Anakhi wrote:
By the way, Persuasive stat level requirements change for higher PL-levels, but the check difficulty remains the same; 94% success chance with Persuasive 237 for PL 1, 2 and 3. Anyone else noticed this? I wonder about higher levels of PL; if the check stays the same, the stat-cap for it might be considerably lower than 300 (or even 290? 120 for PL3; might as well be 290 for PL20).
Seems so (by checking wiki) and, with quick math, level 290 can be obtained without Fate, destiny, spouse, profession, overcapping or a specific club; of course, you need a mood and some level 40 renown items, but it doesn't impose any other restrictions. Or, let's say, RP may be the only blockage in this case!
If FBG did their math and added this requirements intentionally, hat's off! If the weasels didn't run off with it for a fashion show! 
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dov
Posts: 2580
10/23/2017
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Fun fact: Persuasive is the only stat which has the same Max with or without Fate (+200 possible from gear/destiny, +15 from Notability overcapping).
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
10/23/2017
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What's the best option for gaining Inspired? As far as I can tell it's The Bohemians at 12.8 Inspired per action, using Scandal dupes and ignoring the rare success.
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I just wanted to point out that there is a rare success possible when turning in your A Fine Piece to raise Poet Laureate.
The first example: https://i.redd.it/ob5zb6s510tz.png
They lost 3/6 AFP.
The second example is my own: https://imgur.com/io3y9NL
I lost 0/10 AFP.
So, not only is there a chance of rare success, but there's also a range of how much AFP you lose. Currently it looks like 0-50% (Maybe 0% or 50%?). Obviously more results/data is needed, so if this happens to you post the information please.
I lost 4/5 AFP so it looks like a static range rather than a percentage.
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Waterpls
Posts: 326
10/23/2017
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>>>What's the best option for gaining Inspired? As far as I can tell it's The Bohemians
Maybe The Lead. No Scandal, but rare success is only +15 Inpsired. 13.6 per action.
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dov
Posts: 2580
10/23/2017
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Waterpls wrote:
>>>What's the best option for gaining Inspired? As far as I can tell it's The Bohemians
Maybe The Lead. No Scandal, but rare success is only +15 Inpsired. 13.6 per action.
"The Lead" is... problematic. The Inspired gain is solid, but the text is off putting enough that I really don't like to use the option.
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Bitty
Posts: 234
10/23/2017
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dov wrote:
Waterpls wrote:
>>>What's the best option for gaining Inspired? As far as I can tell it's The Bohemians
Maybe The Lead. No Scandal, but rare success is only +15 Inpsired. 13.6 per action.
"The Lead" is... problematic. The Inspired gain is solid, but the text is off putting enough that I really don't like to use the option.
Yeah same, does anyone have an idea of what some other good ones are?
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Sara Hysaro
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10/23/2017
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I like Nature in the Neath - 10 Inspired on a normal success, 20 on a rare success.
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Kaigen
Posts: 530
10/23/2017
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Bitty wrote:
Yeah same, does anyone have an idea of what some other good ones are? Basically it's The Bohemians if you don't mind having to stop to dump Scandal periodically, or Composition: The high path if you're working on a musical piece and have honey to spare.
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MidnightVoyager
Posts: 858
10/23/2017
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I agree on Nature in the Neath. No need for anything, a solid double on rare successes, and it's on the top of the list so I can go right back to it if I end up leaving the site in between action refreshes.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
10/23/2017
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Devils are worth it is you aren't working for Hell's Renown because it's, well, Hell.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
10/23/2017
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I mean, if you're not really using those favors for anything else, Court is probably the best way to spend them.
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