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ExceptionallyDelicious
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9/28/2017
Could someone explain the "I Told You So" quality to me? Are there multiple opportunities to inject your opinion in the story, but you can only choose one?

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9/28/2017
ExceptionallyDelicious wrote:
Could someone explain the "I Told You So" quality to me? Are there multiple opportunities to inject your opinion in the story, but you can only choose one?

From what I understand, it's just a matter of whether you do, in fact, get to tell him "I told you so" later. Whether you warned him about separating the composer from his beloved. It's for a minor thing later in the story, and as someone who's done it, there's not much of a point to it.

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Aberrant Eremite
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9/28/2017
I wasn't certain about it until the end, when I saw how the choices made at each stage affected the final film, and how the NPCs reacted to it. I liked that very much - I felt it made the story come together in a way that last month's didn't.

I was annoyed that Tanith missed her own cameo appearance because she was shushing someone at the time! A realistic annoyance, perhaps, but a real shame since we can't repeat the content. (Oh, I could wait and pay Fate to do so, but it's not worth it just for a scene or two that I missed.)

I agree that the picture of the Assured Filmmaker was distractingly odd. Is her Amused Assistant the first ambiguously-gendered NPC we've seen? (I mean, the first ambiguously-gendered NPC we've seen who seems to be a human going about an ordinary life.)


It seemed like there were more typos than usual in this ES. Still, I think it's one of the better ones.

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Gul al-Ahlaam
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9/28/2017
I don't know why everyone thinks the Filmmaker looks so strange? She looks perfectly normal to me. In fact, I think I know someone who looks very similar.


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    ExceptionallyDelicious
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    9/28/2017
    Reused NPC wrote:

    From what I understand, it's just a matter of whether you do, in fact, get to tell him "I told you so" later. Whether you warned him about separating the composer from his beloved. It's for a minor thing later in the story, and as someone who's done it, there's not much of a point to it.

    Ah, thank you. Would you rather have not done it? I'm a bit torn, as art should come first, but the composer's orders seem quite harsh for the music "not sounding right".

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    9/28/2017
    ExceptionallyDelicious wrote:
    Reused NPC wrote:

    From what I understand, it's just a matter of whether you do, in fact, get to tell him "I told you so" later. Whether you warned him about separating the composer from his beloved. It's for a minor thing later in the story, and as someone who's done it, there's not much of a point to it.

    Ah, thank you. Would you rather have not done it? I'm a bit torn, as art should come first, but the composer's orders seem quite harsh for the music "not sounding right".

    Don't get me wrong, there's no downside. It's just kinda pointless. And somewhat insensitive, if you ask me.

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    Captain Kaladin
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    9/28/2017
    I really enjoyed this story, especially getting to watch the film at the end. I did see the whole thing, because I figured the other options made you miss stuff.

    I also appreciate that you can boost your renown, but I'm not sure if ~62 echos was worth the 10cp of renown you get. I would have picked that option regardless, and I really wasn't expecting much of anything, but it definitely did feel like a sacrifice.
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    Rhysdux
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    9/29/2017
    I'm tempted to stop midway through. The reason? The deal involving the Grand Hunt (real or fake). You can buy a fake Hunt with a Brilliant Soul--but my character is a Shepherd, and barring one occasion involving her Nemesis (which she still is tormented about), absolutely refuses to give souls to devils. On the other hand, she doesn't regard a real Hunt as an acceptable risk, either--for herself or for anyone else.

    And there are no other options. She can't walk out on the devil. She can't say, "Absolutely not!" to the Impresario. It seems that the only way for me to remain in character is not to play.
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    Xue
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    9/29/2017
    Rhysdux wrote:
    I'm tempted to stop midway through. The reason? The deal involving the Grand Hunt (real or fake). You can buy a fake Hunt with a Brilliant Soul--but my character is a Shepherd, and barring one occasion involving her Nemesis (which she still is tormented about), absolutely refuses to give souls to devils. On the other hand, she doesn't regard a real Hunt as an acceptable risk, either--for herself or for anyone else.

    And there are no other options. She can't walk out on the devil. She can't say, "Absolutely not!" to the Impresario. It seems that the only way for me to remain in character is not to play.


    I say go with the real hunt. Your character is using the opportunity to expose Hell's savagery to the masses.... and you get to shoot a devil or two for good measure~!
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    9/29/2017
    Rhysdux wrote:
    I'm tempted to stop midway through. The reason? The deal involving the Grand Hunt (real or fake). You can buy a fake Hunt with a Brilliant Soul--but my character is a Shepherd, and barring one occasion involving her Nemesis (which she still is tormented about), absolutely refuses to give souls to devils. On the other hand, she doesn't regard a real Hunt as an acceptable risk, either--for herself or for anyone else.

    And there are no other options. She can't walk out on the devil. She can't say, "Absolutely not!" to the Impresario. It seems that the only way for me to remain in character is not to play.

    You could do a real hunt and spend quite a bit of time shooting devils in the face, if you fancy. It will most likely result in little if any bodily harm to the actors, and it's (probably) quite satisfying to shoot devils every now and again for a good cause.

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    Jolanda Swan
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    9/29/2017
    Had the same issue. Letting people die versus letting one soul go, especially as a shepherd.
    I admit the story... scared me a bit. With the art nouveau theme of the fan art contest and Sunless Skies afoot... is FL going to change its mood from Victorian to turn of the century? Or is it just the season and the timing?
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    Addis Rook
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    9/29/2017


    To be the first person in the world to shoot a devil on camera!

    Don't look at me like that, it'll like a safari!


    Update: It was exactly like a safari. Amazing. Being hunted in a Grand Hunt is an experience I would recommend to everyone.

    Addis: 1 Hell: -3 devils
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    Anchovies
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    9/29/2017
    Hahahaha! Die, embassy scum, die! This is fun. Lionel Anchovies strongly recommends the real hunt. Bring your best firearms.

    Not finished with the story yet, so feedback shall come later. For now, I relish the opportunity to gun down some of the devils who plague our fair city. Who's being hunted now? This is what you get when you tangle with a Shattering Force!

    I have encountered two typos.

    [spoiler]The first lines of the result text from "Film the devils chasing Don Juan":
    The devils are marvelously athletic. But is no surprise, is it?
    Unless Fallen London is now narrated by the Turkish Girl (which would not necessarily be objectionable), I believe the second sentence is missing a word after "but".

    The last lines of the result text from "Film the finale":
    "Now, I have a contract in the Brass Embassy whom you may meet in Ladybones. He'll give you the shape of things from there."
    I believe that should be "contact", unless the Nonchalant Secretary is in fact a talking Infernal Contract. Which, again, would not necessarily be objectionable.[/spoiler]

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    9/29/2017
    Actually... during the staged hunt, I had an opportunity to shoot a devil in the face regardless of the fact that it was STAGED. Has anybody else done this? Do they get really angry about it and turn it into a real hunt?

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    Blaine Davidson
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    9/29/2017
    Asides from the numerous spelling errors I found that the story was fairly enjoyable. I know a lot of people aren't too fond of linear but it felt appropriate.

    I didn't have the heart to say "I told you so", would someone that has echoed it be able to share it with me?

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    Aberrant Eremite
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    9/29/2017
    Blaine Davidson wrote:
    Asides from the numerous spelling errors I found that the story was fairly enjoyable. I know a lot of people aren't too fond of linear but it felt appropriate.

    I didn't have the heart to say "I told you so", would someone that has echoed it be able to share it with me?


    Here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hieronymus%20Drake?fromEchoId=12565564

    It's realistically unsatisfying.

    Shooting devils, on the other hand, was quite satisfying.

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    Catherine Raymond
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    9/29/2017
    Jolanda Swan wrote:
    Had the same issue. Letting people die versus letting one soul go, especially as a shepherd.
    I admit the story... scared me a bit. With the art nouveau theme of the fan art contest and Sunless Skies afoot... is FL going to change its mood from Victorian to turn of the century? Or is it just the season and the timing?
    edited by Jolanda Swan on 9/29/2017


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    Lallinka
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    9/29/2017
    What a wonderful story!

    Just like last month, when I squeed at the opportunity to find something out about the legal system and about lawyers in the Neath, this time I had the same reaction about Filmmaking. And I was not disappointed.

    Every choice mattered in the end and I always found an option that perfectly suited my character.

    My choices:
    [spoiler]1. I did the Debauch the Filmmaker's way,
    2. I did the safe hunt and did not shoot.
    3. I advised the Magician to work with the Filmmaker on the final illusion.

    I believe this resulted in Veteran Privy Counsellor liking the film while Feducci did not.[/spoiler]

    I also found the reward quite refreshing. Instead of some fancy pants item, you get the money on hand and either you keep it, or you don't. Not sure if you get anything instead of the money if you don't keep it, cause I did not go that route.

    An excellent instalment in what feels like a "smaller scale" season, which I would like to stress is not a flaw and a great change of pace .

    I would also like to stress how much I liked the art. The Filmmaker's portrait especially. I know Robin Alexander found it unsettling and weird, but to me it just felt...most alive out of any art I've probably seen. I loved it. I wish that was the promo picture for the story, honestly.

    Though about the actual promo picture...it of course is also excellent and I would like to point out that we now have an old man with a man bun canonically in our midst . Take a good look at the picture and tell me you don't see it!

    Just a side note: FBG, GIVE YOUR PROOF-READER(S) A VACATION! They clearly need it :P
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    Diptych
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    9/29/2017
    Oh, yeah, he does have his hair in a bun. Is this a London production of a Spanish story with a French director and a Japanese producer? Because that's rather marvellous.

    (By the way, I adored this story. I'm a sucker for an examination of the interaction between the mundane and fantastical elements of the Neath, plus some likeable personalities, sequences of practical action, and getting up to the elbows in some good solid art. Fantastic stuff!)

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    Vavakx Nonexus
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    9/29/2017
    Aberrant Eremite wrote:
    I agree that the picture of the Assured Filmmaker was distractingly odd. Is her Amused Assistant the first ambiguously-gendered NPC we've seen? (I mean, the first ambiguously-gendered NPC we've seen who seems to be a human going about an ordinary life.)
    I can't recall many other nonbinary characters like the Assured Assistant. Isery also uses they pronouns and is largely human, but they're also a red honey dealer up in the Isle of Cats, so up to you on how ordinary a life that is.

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