Diptych
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Here's this week's thread for all quick questions and answers relating to Fallen London!
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Dudebro Pyro
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9/5/2017
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That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.
So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.
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Kaijyuu
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suinicide wrote:
Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.
20 actions costs 10 fate, which with the most efficient fate purchase you can get 28 times for $50. There is roughly the equivalent of 60 trillion american dollars worth of money in the world (it's a hard number to pin down given all the bullshit rich people get up to, but let's go with 60 trillion), so if you had all the money in the world, you could buy 672000000000 additional actions, or 21000000000 additional hounds.
This doesn't take into account that you may be able to wish for your money back in your hands to spend it on fate again, nor does it take into account that FBG would, after gaining all that money, cease to be a game company and start being the world's overlords, at which point FL would no longer be very high on their priority list. Or that the world in general may no longer consider all that currency valid and it would vanish into thin air as the worthless abstraction that it is. Upon receiving invalid currency, FBG would certainly take away any benefits you received from your illicit fate purchase.
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Sara Hysaro
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We have the best community.
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suinicide
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9/5/2017
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Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.
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dov
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9/5/2017
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam
Shhhh. Don't draw the attention of the jam overlords...
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Gonen
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9/5/2017
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.
So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.
Brilliant!
Though it's what Siankan heart desires, so if Siankan wishes for only 5 - that statement is indeed true.
Also, you can get that infinite number of hounds by winning a certain unique card game (Ambition yet unfinished, player may or may not truly get 165,000 hounds)
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Estelle Knoht
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
That's not true; assuming a full 144 actions a day (meaning exceptional friendship with less than 6.6 hours of sleep per night), and assuming a highly optimistic (perhaps even impossibly so) 32 actions per hound, you can acquire at most 4.5 hounds a day. Average life expectancy is about 75 years; if we throw out a wild assumption that current age is likely 15 to 25 years, and assume exceptional longevity (without senility/dementia or other conditions which would preclude playing), we can take 100 years of grinding as likely the most one can do in a lifetime - leading to an upper bound of around 164,400 hounds of heaven in a single lifetime.
So if, for instance, your heart desires 165,000 hounds of heaven, unfortunately that seems to be impossible.
You forgot to take into consideration server crashes and traffic jam, which inevitably happens alongside social events like Election.
Alternatively, using the app could fudge the number a bit, legitimately or illegitimately. For the latter, you can probably own 165,000 hounds in a flash, but you won't keep them for more than a flash.
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Waterpls
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9/7/2017
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About ghost messages:
"Hi,
A recent patch caused a temporary issue with social invitations, preventing the invites from clearing even after a response was sent. This issue should now be fixed, so any responses you send should work as normal again.
We're looking into clearing up the ghost invitations left by this bug now, but they may remain in your messages tab for a while longer; sorry for any inconvenience caused in the meantime.
Caolain Porter
Failbetter Game"
edited by Waterpls on 9/7/2017
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Sara Hysaro
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9/5/2017
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You can have as many Hounds of Heaven as your heart desires!
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Siankan
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9/5/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
suinicide wrote:
Of course, if this truly is your hearts desire, you should be willing to spend money on it to refresh your actions.
20 actions costs 10 fate, which with the most efficient fate purchase you can get 28 times for $50. There is roughly the equivalent of 60 trillion american dollars worth of money in the world (it's a hard number to pin down given all the bullshit rich people get up to, but let's go with 60 trillion), so if you had all the money in the world, you could buy 672000000000 additional actions, or 21000000000 additional hounds.
This doesn't take into account that you may be able to wish for your money back in your hands to spend it on fate again, nor does it take into account that FBG would, after gaining all that money, cease to be a game company and start being the world's overlords, at which point FL would no longer be very high on their priority list. Or that the world in general may no longer consider all that currency valid and it would vanish into thin air as the worthless abstraction that it is. Upon receiving invalid currency, FBG would certainly take away any benefits you received from your illicit fate purchase.
I just want to point out that, by the extremely scientific process of typing things into Google and looking for the most trustworthy among the top five or so returns, I have discovered the world's total wealth to be roughly $241,000,000,000 USD. No word yet on the conversion rate into rostygold.
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PSGarak
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9/6/2017
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Siankan wrote:
[...] roughly $241,000,000,000 USD. No word yet on the conversion rate into rostygold.
US Dollars are clearly "Surface Currency," at least until Richmond, VA becomes the Seventh City. Now, the exact amount of a "fistful" ill-defined, but if we assume based on the item icon that we're dealing in coins and not paper money, then I would argue that one fistful is about one roll of coins. Depending on the type of coin in question, a roll of common coins is worth between 50 cents (pennies) and 10 dollars (quarters). It can go as high as 25 dollars if we include dollar coins, which the item description implies might be the case.
This would convert $241,000,000,000 into between 9,640,000,000 and 842,000,000,000 Fistfuls of Surface Currency. A Fistful of Surface Currency sells to the Bazaar for three pence, while Rostygold sells for one pence, making this worth between 28,920,000,000 and 2,536,000,000,000 rostygold.
Working with an alternative definition, we could value A Fistful of Dollars at either $200,000 (production costs) or $14,500,000 (box office). This would convert $241,000,000,000 into between 16,621 and 120,500 fistfuls of Surface Currency. This would translate to between 49,863 and 361,500 rostygold.
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Amalgamate
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9/5/2017
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Aniline wrote:
What's a good grind that gives Nightmares on failure? I hardly ever have more than 2 when the CVR guy comes to collect, feels like a waste. I'm already a level 7 SotC.
Seeking curios and secrets in the Forgotten quarter.
It may not look that good at first, but a lot of the steps have rare successes that make the overall EPA good - you can get Eyeless Skulls and Brass Rings. (Just don't play the Dean option).
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suinicide
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9/6/2017
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Teaspoon wrote:
Tyrconnell wrote:
Siankan wrote:
And just imagine: with billions to spend at will, one could engage in a consistent campaign of having couriers hand-deliver dead rats by the thousand to the actual offices of Failbetter Games. It would be glorious
I have already asked SM9 whether mailing rats was a Good Idea or a Bad Idea.
The verdict, alas, was that it was a Bad Idea.
I think you may have asked an imposter...
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malaugurie
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9/6/2017
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Lallinka wrote:
Umm...is anyone else's social actions behaving most strangely? The request you can click "respond" on don't seem to disappear even after you've played them. But when you want to play them again, you cannot accept, nor decline, nor do anything. I've JUST gotten my latest bug report solved yesterday, too.
I'm having the same problem as well! The ghost requests of a few already played social actions are haunting my inbox and refusing to leave...
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Kaijyuu
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9/6/2017
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Waterpls wrote:
What is the best strategy to write a Classic Short Story? Stop at 200 Potential and pray to RNGesus?
Personally I went all the way to 100% to avoid anything tragic. Achievable through using many trade secrets and case notes.
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Màiread
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9/6/2017
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So my seeker has gone to the carnival only to find herself one memory of light short and I can't find a way to leave. Am I correct in assuming I'm going to have to max nightmares to get out? How blindingly irritating.
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Achanei
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9/6/2017
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Not sure if this warrants its own topic, but I recently acquired my first ship and set sail for hunter's keep. I like the story of the three sisters a lot, and would like to discuss/exchange theories about it with people.
[spoiler]I'm on my third carousel now, and my current theory is that the sisters seem to be the split-off personas of the same woman who was conducting a tragic love affair with an unknown (male?) lover who was apparently also interested in another man. The lover's father intervened and the sisters got exiled/are protected by something on the island of hunter's keep. This all seems to have happened during the fall, so it has been a while, which makes this somewhat more interesting- some poweful players have got to be involved, otherwise the scandal would have run it's course by now and they'd be able to return to London, which at least Cynthia and Lucy seem to want. There also were at least two goats involved, a fortune teller, the lover's father may or may not be also a goat as well, and the maidservant of the island is extremely supsicious and very hostile. [/spoiler]
That's what I got right now, if anyone wants to discuss, drop me some hints where to look for clues or point me to a place where people dive into the lore, I'd be grateful - I'm sort of new to digging into the deeper recesses of the story on my own, without having any particular storyline to use as a guide.
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Tyrconnell
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9/5/2017
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Siankan wrote:
I just want to point out that, by the extremely scientific process of typing things into Google and looking for the most trustworthy among the top five or so returns, I have discovered the world's total wealth to be roughly $241,000,000,000 USD. No word yet on the conversion rate into rostygold.
That can't be right. There are . I think you're going by this article, which also starts with $241 but has an extra trio of zeroes in there. $241 trillion sounds much more reasonable.
Please remember that fabulous wealth entitles you to perks not available to the masses or, indeed, publicly listed. Were one to approach Failbetter with an offer of enough money I'm sure one could come to an agreement by which the action limit could be turned off. Failing that, one could hire a hacker to take care of it. Or a lot of them. Calculably but inconceivably vast wealth opens many doors!
Really it's probably more efficient, and with a conceivable if vast amount of money, to simply buy Failbetter and run it as one chooses. That could entail having infinite actions, of course, but it's much easier to just add a button to grant a number of hounds of heaven equal to the number entered in a field. Like buying from the bazaar, but without an echo cost.
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Siankan
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9/4/2017
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Is it possible to own multiple Hounds of Heaven? The answer seems to be "yes," judging on storylet requirements, but that's a lot of actions to gamble if it turns out to be "no."
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Kaijyuu
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9/7/2017
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Skinnyman wrote:
Speaking of which, case notes can't be grind outside election festival, right? Or did I miss something?
It's something you can lock yourself out of. If you don't ever finish the cases and always abandon them at 10 progress, you can grind case notes forever.
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Lady Jen Black
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9/11/2017
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Akernis wrote:
Jen Black wrote:
I don't know if this question is allowed, but I played through the Empress' Shadow. Now, when I go to the Fate page, I can't see an option to buy The Gift. Is there a problem?
It is there for both the one character of mine who has played the Emperor's Shadow, and the one who hasn't. Have you checked thoroughly it isn't there? Sometime the Fate Stories shift around so it may seem like one is missing when it is just somewhere else on the page.
Ah, sorry. Due to the storylets shifting after purchase, it wasn't where I thought it would be. Thanks for your help.
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