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Diptych
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8/14/2017
Here's this week's thread for quick questions!

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Anchovies
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8/15/2017
Plynkes wrote:
Quick lore question: I know there's an illicit trade in sunlight, but what do people actually do with the sunlight? What is it used for? Getting a tan? Growing vegetables? Murdering insects via a magnifying glass?
Captured sunlight is an addictive "substance". Here's how it feels to take a hit of the stuff, from Sunless Sea:
Open the box. Let it bathe you. Its warmth is long-needed sleep, clear crystal air, a lover's embrace -

The light has enfeebled you. It's raising terrible lesions on your skin. You can't survive much more of this. But oh, the Sun, the Sun...
I imagine the compulsion of sunlight is a feeling not unlike that of the Dawn Machine (THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN etc), but surface sunlight has the nasty side effect of imposing natural laws which contradict your continued existence.

In the absence of sunlight, natural selection would favor plants which don't waste energy and biomass on chloroplasts. With an atrophied or entirely lost ability to photosynthesize, the Neath's flora wouldn't benefit from the sudden addition of sunlight, and would probably suffer from the imposition of the surface's natural laws.

Tangent: "mirrorcatch box full of sunlight" is an oddly accurate description of a microwave oven. Imagining mirrorcatch boxes as microwave ovens is quite fun. A microwave oven full of very angry dream-snakes, anyone? It would explain why mirrorcatch boxes can be purchased only in Khan's Shadow; the Khanate has electric lighting, so perhaps they also have electric kitchen appliances. Maybe the Leopard Clan values darkdrop coffee because they want to finally get some use out of the ol' Keurig.

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Siankan
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8/16/2017
Teaspoon wrote:
Are there chickens in the Neath?

And if not, why not? I can't see them getting into a fight with the Masters somehow.

Unknown, but it makes perfect sense. Chickens should be easy enough to raise without the light, so eggs and chicken should be easy enough Surface additions to London diets (though the eggs might take on a different taste). The same with pigs; I never understood why pork is talked about as a rarity when pigs will happily live off your fungal scraps. If we can keep *horses* alive down here, you'd think we could do better with some of the lesser livestock.

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alekth
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8/17/2017
Plynkes wrote:
Was Making Waves always right there in the sidebar below the menaces? I can't believe I never noticed it before. smile


No, it's very recent addition.

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Kaijyuu
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8/21/2017
#1: Theif's Cache expeditions, using Docks favors to supply supplies.
#2: Crime or Punishment, but ONLY if you can make use of the suspicion decrease (and notably the decrease still depends on total favors so it's best to turn in at 7).
#3: Beating up Ministers on the Implausible Penance card.
edited by Kaijyuu on 8/21/2017

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Sara Hysaro
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8/15/2017
No, last year it was around this time. The year before that it started on the 20th of August, and in 2014 it started on the 28th of August.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/15/2017
I'm fairly confident we'll still have it this year, but we'll just have to wait and see.

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menaulon
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8/17/2017
Koenig wrote:
So what exactly is with the Mysteries tab? There are a number of questions to be answered; however I am not sure if these are literal questions with answers to be derived from the games lore, or to be invented to fill in the gaps as is so much of history?

They are literal questions with lore answers. Some questions, however, may require lore that has not yet been added to the game, but will be over the course of this/beginning of next year. The questions can also be pretty complicated. You can find the speculation over answers here: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24710-mysteries-discussion.aspx .


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    Teaspoon
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    8/19/2017
    I had a vague idea about a piece of lore saying that the Fingerkings kidnap people's reflections and hold them behind the mirrors, or something.

    Does this sound familiar to anybody?

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    Amalgamate
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    8/20/2017
    That seems like the Lost in Reflections exceptional story.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    8/20/2017
    It hasn't been necessary thus far, and I'm sure FBG will introduce a one-time method for Heart's Desire players to get their soul back should that text be literal. As a Heart's Desire player myself, I get the impression your soul is more metaphorical.

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    Teaspoon
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    8/20/2017
    No, I mean now. The year of our Lord 2017, that's still the best anyone's come up with.

    Which, blimey.

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    Teaspoon
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    8/16/2017
    Are there chickens in the Neath?

    And if not, why not? I can't see them getting into a fight with the Masters somehow.

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    Kaijyuu
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    8/17/2017
    Getting a tan, yeah. A tan that includes hallucinations and euphoria followed by injuries and addiction.

    It's the "hard drug" for honey's "soft drug."

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    Pumpkinhead
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    8/15/2017
    Last time we talked about this we ended up with multi-paragraph rants discussing the American Civil War...
    ...but I suppose, good question. I'm frankly surprised that London has had any success with Port Carnelian at all, what with all the tigers and Khaganians who don't have any particular reason to bow to Londoners.
    Although I guess they had me as a governor for a while, so it's no surprise everything worked out perfectly.

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    Siankan
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    8/15/2017
    Teaspoon wrote:
    It occurs to me to wonder if anyone cares about the Irish Question.

    Both in terms of whether Ireland is out of the Empire now (it has to be, right?) and whether London's gonna see Port Carnelian demanding independence a few years down the line.

    In the London-on-Surface story, Ireland doesn't gain its independence until World War I, when it uses the Empire's difficulties to strong-arm its way to it. How does the Fall affect that? Open question.

    As for Port Carnelian, cutting ties with London would probably end up with everyone in a tiger's stomach. If anything, I think the colonists would be inclined to give up the whole thing and go home.

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    Kaijyuu
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    8/15/2017
    Irrigo is a color, so presumably.

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    Teaspoon
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    8/15/2017
    You use gant for tattoo removal, I think.

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    Anchovies
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    8/15/2017
    gronostaj wrote:
    according to the wiki, gant is used for removing "false tattoos". whatever that means. temporary tattoos? like the ones you can find in boxed cotton candy and cheap kiddie chips? though if it works for normal inks too and it's a good removal, tattoo artists would have an amazing life in the city. You could ink a client over and over again whenever they grew bored of their old designs.
    When the player character in FL or SSea acquires a tattoo, it's always something with personal significance. Can't just have an armchair stenciled on your thigh, or whatever. Perhaps a "false tattoo" is one which doesn't have a story behind it? False meaning 'untrue', rather than 'fake'.

    Your mention of cotton candy and kiddie chips makes me wonder: what sorts of horrific baubles would come in a package of the Neathy equivalent of Cracker Jack? A surprise inside every bag of Mr Murgatroyd's Fungal Crisps! Available in Original or new Rubbery Lumps flavor.

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    dov
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    8/15/2017
    Under Attend to Matters of Society in your lodgings.

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    Tyrconnell
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    8/15/2017
    gronostaj wrote:
    Would an irrigo ink cover-up tattoo inked over a normal tattoo work as a tattoo removal? Can you even ink with irrigo?

    You can ink with irritgo. The problem, of course, is that you can't remember having the tattoo. Once you start getting an irrigo tattoo you never stop getting that tattoo.

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    Kaijyuu
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    8/21/2017
    Do you have a fancy new hat? If you do, you got the candle.

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    Anchovies
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    8/17/2017
    Here's the zailing math.

    "Steam boldly: make it up as you go" is a 30% chance for +10 approaching journey's end (hereafter "j") and +9 troubled waters (hereafter "w"), and 70% chance for +7j and +18w. Troubled Waters 10 requires 55 cp.

    4 failures (24%): 72w (level 11 +6 spare cp), 28j (L7)
    3 failures, 1 success (41%): 63w (L10+8cp), 31j (L7+3cp)
    2 failures, 3 successes (13%): 63w (L10+8cp), 34j (L7+6cp)

    Hunting a seal gives +3w, which puts us at TW 11. We need 21-27j, and it's best to use cards because the only remaining non-card option has a 70% chance to reduce AJE. There's two ways to go about this. First, play it safe and try to reach AJE 10 with "the killing wind", "a mountain of the unterzee", "a corvette of her majesty's navy", and so forth. Those cards give around +4j on average, so it shouldn't take more than 10 actions. Alternately, intentionally fail the watchful test on "what are those?", or take luck challenges on "the stone-pigs cough" and similar cards, to wipe your TW and set AJE to 5. From there, "make it up as you go" 4-6 times and you're back to London.

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