Kylestien
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Watchful -> gives London's Nerves: Requirements (i) 1 Ubergoat, OR (ii) 21 Scholar of the Correspondence, OR (iii) 100 Chess Matches won and 40 Boatman's Opponent
Dangerous -> gives London's Sinew: Requirements (i) 100 Influence, OR (ii) 50 Advancing the Liberation of Night, OR (iii) 50 Sanguine Ribbons
Persuasive -> gives London's Blood: Requirements (i) all 5-card lodgings, OR (ii) Committed, OR (iii) 15 in each Having Recurring Dreams quality (expect for Death by Water, which needs 10)
Shadowy -> gives London's Marrow: Requirements (i)1,000,000 Pennies, OR (ii) all 3200-scrap relicker items OR (iii) 50 Renown: Constables and 50 Renown: Criminals
We all know someone is going to go for all 4 of these. Who's gonna be crazy enough to do it?
I WOULD, but griding to 15 Notability 4 times would be such a annoyance to grind, and I don't know how to do it well. Plus the changing POSI thing. All for something that might not even do anything.
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suinicide
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7/28/2017
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The requirements are OR, not AND. So it tries to prevent the segregation.
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Gonen
Posts: 817
7/29/2017
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Wait, doesn't EVERYONE going for it?
It's the famous Paramount Presence.. Maybe not in a blitz, but I have assumed many will go for it.
(I've also assumed an unwritten competition to see who gets there first...)
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
8/2/2017
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Toran wrote:
Wish we knew exactly what all the benefits are from getting Paramount Presence, though.
I hope it has some benefit that's related to Overcapping. The way that Paramount Presence is set up, it's mutually exclusive with the Tier 2 POSI specializations, which means that it locks you out of the current Overcapping options. I would hope that it somehow makes up for that loss. Whether that's by raising your stat cap, or offering a new option to Overcap all 4 stats at once, or whatever.
I'm not extremely concerned about that, honestly. I'm getting it because it is bigger and fancier, even if it's mechanically inferior. But it would appeal to my sense of fairness.
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PSGarak
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7/28/2017
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DeserterKalak wrote:
I'm not going to advance the liberation of night, and I want my Is Someone There? Quality to be lower than 15 because GET OUT OF MY HEAD, CHARLES. This isn't for me.
Under each specialization, the list of items is apparently "pick one," not "complete all three."
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
7/28/2017
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I will go for it, but it's going to take a long long time as I'm immensely inefficient at Notablity gaining and I don't have the Fate to spend. But I'm not yet ready to be a seeker and I want to see my ambition through.
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Watchful -> gives London's Nerves: Requirements (i) 1 Ubergoat, (ii) 21 Scholar of the Correspondence, (iii) 100 Chess Matches won and 40 Boatman's Opponent (Ubergoat and SotC21 and Boatman 40...so u could do the chess matches for fun? - eithe way, this is done)
Dangerous -> gives London's Sinew: Requirements (i) 100 Influence, (ii) 50 Advancing the Liberation of Night, (iii) 50 Sanguine Ribbons (a problem. Not sure which I'll try: maybe 100 influence?)
Persuasive -> gives London's Blood: Requirements (i) all 5-card lodgings, (ii) Committed, (iii) 15 in each Having Recurring Dreams quality (expect for Death by Water, which needs 10) (done - have Committed)
Shadowy -> gives London's Marrow: Requirements (i)1,000,000 Pennies, (ii) all 3200-scrap relicker items (iii) 50 Renown: Constables and 50 Renown: Criminals (Uuuuuuugh. I've only one of the 3200 items and I poured most of my cash into the Ubergoat. And I haven't found a way to grind or even improve Constables - getting Criminals 50 won't be as bad since I'm now at 42. But UGGGGGH)
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JimmyTMalice
Posts: 237
7/28/2017
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People have ground for Cider and Heptagoats. This is no different - a crazy long-term goal for people at the cap who have nothing left to do. And from the person who cheated to get there we know that it does something, although it's far from impressive for the amount of effort.
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Mr Sables
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7/28/2017
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suinicide wrote:
The requirements are OR, not AND. So it tries to prevent the segregation.
Oh! So for example the "Shadowy -> gives London's Marrow: Requirements (i)1,000,000 Pennies, (ii) all 3200-scrap relicker items (iii) 50 Renown: Constables and 50 Renown: Criminals"
I wouldn't need all of them to get that Shadowy quality, but just one of those three criteria? That actually makes it a lot more doable and something I'd be willing to pursue  Thank you for explaining that!
While I'm bugging people with this . . . I have to ask, where/how does one uncover the option/storylet to gain those qualities? Like, I already have 200 in all stats, and - such as for Persuasive - I already have one of the criteria. Do I also need to get the 15+ cap before anything appears?
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Artful
Posts: 48
7/28/2017
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I hope that:
a) One bad apple didn't just spoil this for all of us.
b) Only the qualities are needed to trigger PP. Holding onto 15 in one stat is hard enough. Trying to keep 3 while trying for the 4th would be stressful.
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Amélie Vaincœur
Posts: 85
7/28/2017
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I'm going for it, but I can't predict how long it will take me.
All my stats are in the 190s (I never spent much time in the Nadir) and I have massive stacks of second chance items, so reaching 200 is not a problem. I have BDR 29, and I will pay Fate for the specialization switches, easing the Notability grind somewhat (currently at 9).
Persuasive: I'm Committed.
Dangerous: I've already started sending out Calling Cards to boost my Influence (currently at 54).
Watchful: I have SotC 16, so I think I can reach 21 with overcapped Watchful and a Mood card.
 Nope, can't. Übergoat, then...
Shadowy: I'm currently worth 27321.75 Echoes, so I guess I can sell off enough stuff to raise 10k Echoes, even though selling some items might hurt (I love to hoard).
I'm sure someone who's logged in all day and uses all their actions could do it within a few weeks, but I'm usually a more casual player. Still, this seems worth some extra effort... let's see what happens! 
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
7/28/2017
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I would go for it myself, but I have no idea how to grind 15 notability ONCE, let alone 4 times.
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Mr Sables
Posts: 597
7/28/2017
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Kylestien wrote:
Watchful -> gives London's Nerves: Requirements (i) 1 Ubergoat, (ii) 21 Scholar of the Correspondence, (iii) 100 Chess Matches won and 40 Boatman's Opponent
Dangerous -> gives London's Sinew: Requirements (i) 100 Influence, (ii) 50 Advancing the Liberation of Night, (iii) 50 Sanguine Ribbons
Persuasive -> gives London's Blood: Requirements (i) all 5-card lodgings, (ii) Committed, (iii) 15 in each Having Recurring Dreams quality (expect for Death by Water, which needs 10)
Shadowy -> gives London's Marrow: Requirements (i)1,000,000 Pennies, (ii) all 3200-scrap relicker items (iii) 50 Renown: Constables and 50 Renown: Criminals
We all know someone is going to go for all 4 of these. Who's gonna be crazy enough to do it?
I WOULD, but griding to 15 Notability 4 times would be such a annoyance to grind, and I don't know how to do it well. Plus the changing POSI thing. All for something that might not even do anything.
Holy excrement, Batman 0_0
I assumed it was as simple as 215 stats all around, but the extra requirements are quite extreme. I would have gone for it, but - to be honest - those requirements put me off for role-play reasons . . . it peeves me off to even have one "Advancing the Liberation", let alone to even try and aim for 50, and likewise I'd rather not get Criminals renown any higher than I already have achieved. I imagine others like "Boatman's Opponent" will be tough for those who role-play as having never died, and . . . it's odd?
Like, I can understand having big requirements, as someone who does achieve all of those very much deserves a special title! At the same time it feels like story and gameplay segregation, ignoring reasons why some people might play and forcing them to choose between character/gameplay? Then again, it's extremely end-game so maybe most end-game players care less about role-play? I don't know . . .
Huge respect to whomever does go after this, though Good luck!
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Indigo Clardmond
Posts: 60
8/7/2017
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I'm glad I checked this thread and the forums when I noticed the Church Renown system kick over. As someone who avoided picking a specialisation specifically because of the fact you were locked into it, I would never have known about this new development and quest for ultimate mastery of all skills.
I will definitely be going for it as well, though as of now the only one I can fulfil is London's Blood. I highly doubt I'll be one of the first to achieve all four and (possibly?) Paramount Presence status, but I'm never one for that sort of competition. It's just nice to finally see recognition for the personality and mentality of those who resist specialisation and categorisation...even if that means you need to work four times as hard to become good at anything and everything.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
7/28/2017
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Who's going for it? Not me. The grindy part of the game is the part that occasionally makes me want to stop playing. Don't care about goats, cider, EPA, or any of that jazz. When I hit a point where all there is to do is grind then that's when I zail off into the zunset. Er, sunset. Oh wait. Sunless... Yeah.
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Skinnyman
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7/28/2017
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Kylestien wrote:
We all know someone is going to go for all 4 of these. Who's gonna be crazy enough to do it?
I WOULD, but griding to 15 Notability 4 times would be such a annoyance to grind, and I don't know how to do it well. Plus the changing POSI thing. All for something that might not even do anything.
Of course many will go for it! Even if it's frigging expensive to get get Notability to 15 plus another 12/Fate. I'll probably start working on it, slowly, after I prepare for SMEN after the Feast. Meh, to many precious Tears which are needed for an interesting tattoo!
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dov
Posts: 2580
7/28/2017
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I'm going for it, but not at the expense of some other opportunities (so I'm not grinding this 100% of my actions).
To bad that this Notability grind is in direct conflict with my Tears of the Bazaar grind...
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rahv7
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7/28/2017
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I'll also go for it. If I see this correctly I already have the qualities/items to go for all of the *London's [...]*-qualities, so it comes down to overcapping each attribute to 215.
I'm with dov, though, and won't do it exclusively because I'll either go mad or lose interest in the game. We'll see how long it takes, I'm not in a hurry.
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Saklad
Posts: 528
7/28/2017
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Robin Alexander wrote:
suinicide wrote:
The requirements are OR, not AND. So it tries to prevent the segregation.
Oh! So for example the "Shadowy -> gives London's Marrow: Requirements (i)1,000,000 Pennies, (ii) all 3200-scrap relicker items (iii) 50 Renown: Constables and 50 Renown: Criminals"
I wouldn't need all of them to get that Shadowy quality, but just one of those three criteria? That actually makes it a lot more doable and something I'd be willing to pursue Thank you for explaining that!
While I'm bugging people with this . . . I have to ask, where/how does one uncover the option/storylet to gain those qualities? Like, I already have 200 in all stats, and - such as for Persuasive - I already have one of the criteria. Do I also need to get the 15+ cap before anything appears?
Yep. The Ambitious Barrister appears in the relevant Unfinished Business storylets.
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Slyblue
Posts: 224
7/28/2017
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I'm going for these too. Eventually. Somehow, London's Blood seems the easiest to achieve, so it's -one- place to start!
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Jeremy Avalon
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7/28/2017
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Saklad wrote:
Wait, is reaching Renown 50 even possible for all stats right now? That necessitates getting 294 in each respective stat, and I’m not sure that is achievable for all of them even with Moods, overcapping, and the best gear.
With the ability to change specializations and keep the overcapped stats, it is now possible to reach Renown 48 for each stat without Moods, with the right gear setup. Moods will easily push the limit to 50.
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Màiread
Posts: 385
7/28/2017
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I'll definitely be chasing this goal, but like everyone else I'm in no great hurry. I have almost no fate-locked bdr stuff & thanks to the best part of a year spent only logging on to visit the nadir I'm not even stat capped right now, so it'll be a long long time before I'm done. Hopefully by the time I get really going with it notability grinding will have become less tedious. Fingers crossed I won't get too worn out with the clickathon.
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Sara Hysaro
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7/28/2017
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I'm definitely going for it, especially since all I really need is the Notability.
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Optimatum
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7/28/2017
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DeserterKalak wrote:
When changing your specialisation, is it possible to go back to not having one? I've dragged my feet so far, because I feel like I've entered into quite enough weird intangible bargains with the bazaar. Even the birth mark bothers me enough that I'll probably seek Obscurity at some stage.
As I understand it, changing your specialization means resetting to a non-specialized PoSI and then choosing one through the regular options. But as the whole point of this grind seems to be becoming a Paramount Presence, being unspecialized first wouldn't really change anything.
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Amélie Vaincœur
Posts: 85
7/28/2017
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So, I did some maths and found that even with a Mood I can't reach Watchful 300 without The Great Game or an Übergoat. So I guess I'll abandon SotC and go for the Übergoat option directly. Of course, this means I'll have to sell basically everything I own, but... gah, I think it's worth it! I haven't really done anything in FL ever since Flint, what do I need all this stuff for anyway? Also, since the 10k Echoes for Marrow aren't consumed I won't be left completely broke. And everything you can sell can be regained in time.
Yes, I value one rare quality more than all that junk.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
7/29/2017
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Gonen wrote:
Oh, then I misunderstood the PP requirement...
To be a PP one needs ALL of the 12 above?...
No, just one for each stat. It's people here are insane.
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Corran
Posts: 401
7/30/2017
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I like my weekly visits to the Cave of the Nadir so I guess I'm not going for this any time soon.
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Toran
Posts: 193
8/2/2017
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As many others have already stated, I have 3 of the 4 category requirements fulfilled (would need to get to 100 Influence, which isn't hard).
I'm not sure when I'll start working Notability up to start this, but I'll probably begin at some point, likely after Hallowmas.
I'm currently most of the way to a Heptagoat, so it'll help keep me interested to mix this in as another long-term goal.
Wish we knew exactly what all the benefits are from getting Paramount Presence, though.
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Urthdigger
Posts: 939
7/29/2017
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I think I may strive for all 12. I'd run out of things to really aim for outside of mindless collection with no goal in sight. Though, I imagine the scraps one is going to suck.
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Posts: 163
8/2/2017
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I think I'll be satisfied with one of them. I have SotC 21, so now I'm grinding the notability. Onwards!
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annalibertas
Posts: 161
8/5/2017
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Am not currently going for it (soon, probably - i have most of the requirements already) but I would like to volunteer my assistance to those who are
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Toran
Posts: 193
8/7/2017
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dov wrote:
navchaa wrote:
Who knew that collecting all 3200 scrap items was going to matter?
Old time Seekers
Everyone? There was a lot of speculation around the importance of scrap items.
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dov
Posts: 2580
8/7/2017
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Toran wrote:
dov wrote:
navchaa wrote:
Who knew that collecting all 3200 scrap items was going to matter?
Old time Seekers
Everyone? There was a lot of speculation around the importance of scrap items.
The original version of Winking Isle (which only 3-4 people ever got to experience before Alexis pulled the plug) required the use of 3200 scrap items to make any real progress in Fasting and Meditating (anything else was a 50/50 chance, which could also lower your progress).
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Luminen Walker
Posts: 172
7/28/2017
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Assuming I come up with an effective plan to grind out the requisite making waves I plan on doing this. Infact I'm already working on it.
So... anyone want to play some chess or a spar a bit? I could use the everything. I'm not afraid of dying. Just another chance to play some more chess.
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Aardvark
Posts: 119
7/28/2017
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Going for this as well. The (repeated) notability grind is going to be bit of a drag, but it's rather more approachable than the Cider grind in my opinion. A nice mid-to-long goal for endgame players!
I have all the non-stat bases covered except for Sinews (I may wish to get Veils Velvet for the Marrow, since that's much cooler than plain Echoes).
Is there any grindable way of advancing the Liberation of Night apart from Luminosity conversions? I'm not sure if I can easily raise Influence from 33 to 100...
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
7/28/2017
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You get a cool quality? There's no obvious use for them individually though. If there's anything you can do, nobody's found it.
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Optimatum
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7/28/2017
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I'll definitely go for this eventually. First though I have to finish grinding Cider, spend a while on Winking Isle, then grind up a replacement Master's Blood just in case of De Gustibus.
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DeserterKalak
Posts: 94
7/28/2017
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When changing your specialisation, is it possible to go back to not having one? I've dragged my feet so far, because I feel like I've entered into quite enough weird intangible bargains with the bazaar. Even the birth mark bothers me enough that I'll probably seek Obscurity at some stage.
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dov
Posts: 2580
7/28/2017
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With a Mood and overcapping, you can raise Renown to 52 or 53 (depending on the stat).
The problem, of course, is you'll need to draw multiple Mood cards. This by itself can take years.
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PSGarak
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7/28/2017
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This is something that I intend to achieve, but I won't be starting serious work on it until next year.
My current in-game goals are Renown and a Noman tattoo. Paramount Presence is my current front-runner for what to do after both of those are checked off, but the FLR project might release something else in the meantime that I would rather pursue first (like updating Light Fingers!). I also want to have high Notability coming in to Hallowmas, so I'd rather not be spending it all in the month leading up to it. I would like to acquire another 2000 scrap by New Year's, since that's the easiest way to pass the requirement for my current POSI specialization, but that's definitely a background task.
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Saklad
Posts: 528
7/28/2017
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I’m totally going for these. I’m going to see if I can max out Renown and SotC and everything while I’m at it, since I need to overcap my stats anyway. I don’t necessarily have to drop everything to do this, if I’m okay with taking a few years. Which I am, since I see no urgency.
I’m also going to go for the specific requirements that suit my character (which basically means it suits my personal morality). Almost all of them are things I’ve been slowly doing anyway.
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Dima Lazarev
Posts: 172
7/28/2017
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I am in. Just got Nerves, next step is Blood.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/28/2017
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I could go for it. I have at least one of the requirements for 3 of them (of course the one I haven't got is for my existing specialisation).
So I either need to arrange things to get 2 protegees for 100 Influence or start doing the duel to death and winning 50 times!
But the Notability thing is tricky, I only just got to 15 during the election, and I can't afford the Fate option. That is a lot of grinding MW which isn't much fun.
Also I'm a seeker and am at the point where I can get to Winking Isle if I sell everything but then I would need to replace the relicker items for the Shadowy requirement.
So I'm not going to hurry but will probably think seriously about doing it.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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Scienceandponies
Posts: 247
8/7/2017
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So is it just me, or does getting all 4 relicker items seem like a way harder requirement than 1,000,000 pennies. I'd love to go the former route for character reasons, but that's one monumental grind of it's own that directly opposes goat/cider grinding, while the latter is a piece of cake if you're already pursuing those.
Really starting to wish I hadn't sold that Prince of Hell Location way back when I unlocked the Cave of Nadir, but I was a fresh player back then and 1560 echoes was the monetary springboard I needed to grab some good gear. Really coming back to haunt me now. Scrap is painfully hard to come by.
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navchaa
Posts: 561
8/8/2017
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Scienceandponies wrote:
So is it just me, or does getting all 4 relicker items seem like a way harder requirement than 1,000,000 pennies. I'd love to go the former route for character reasons, but that's one monumental grind of it's own that directly opposes goat/cider grinding, while the latter is a piece of cake if you're already pursuing those.
Really starting to wish I hadn't sold that Prince of Hell Location way back when I unlocked the Cave of Nadir, but I was a fresh player back then and 1560 echoes was the monetary springboard I needed to grab some good gear. Really coming back to haunt me now. Scrap is painfully hard to come by.
It's not that bad if you have all 4 card lodgings and grind urchins favours to turn them in for the call in favours in the flit card. Takes months or even years still but isn't a dedicated grind since it's card based. I'm 800 scrap away from my last item and I've been on and off grinding them since maybe a year ago as part of one of my vague end game goals.
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Paramount Presence (London's Marrow 2, London's Nerves 2, London’s Sinew 3, London’s Blood 3) and mercenary Notary
Married to Myrto :: Exchanging Surprise Packages with anyone interested :: Exchanging cat boxes with Kitty Rambunctious
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An Individual
Posts: 589
8/8/2017
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What's this? New things to do added in my absence? Looks easier than Cider and I already meet many of the requirements so I'm in. Never really enjoyed the Notabiliy grind but I'm willing to suffer through it in short bursts.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
1/1/2018
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If you played The Marriage of Feducci and ensured the marriage went well, it unlocks a global storylet giving 15 Romantic Notions. I haven't done the math yet but I'm pretty sure upconverting those to Visions, sideconverting to ToT!!, then upconverting to Uncanny Incanabula is much better than the tier 3 carousel.
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Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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