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The New Mayor of London Card

Wiwo Posts: 365 7/21/2017	Looks like Feducci has made himself at home in our opportunity decks. I've only drawn the card once so far myself, but fighting before him gave ~25 CP Revolutionaries and a Tale of Terror for a lucky result. Let us know what you get for different results and somebody who understands the wikia better than me please get a page started with the proper template so results can be captured. Exciting times, these. -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/22/2017	The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space. -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary Posts: 26 7/21/2017	Well, seeing as both Society and Revolutionaries will be converted in two weeks, the card will start giving Favours soon
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/22/2017	Feducci assisted in the Seasons of Revolutions in Hell. Those same infernal revolutionaries are now collaborating with their mortal counterparts - particularly in their shared experiment, the Iron Republic. To be honest, I thought everyone knew this. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/22/2017	Gotta admit, I'm a little fascinated by the apparently popularity of viewpoints like "I'm all for overturning the social order, and 100% on board with factions whose entire way of life - perhaps even their very conception of reality - is entirely different to our own, but I won't have anything to do with those darned Revolutionaries!" -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1789 7/21/2017	I went for the Protest option, it gave Connected: Society and Incendiary Gossip. Most importanly though, it starred the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. I love how this is by no means a negative card, but still it showcases how controversial Feducci is. His card, while profitable, underlines the unrest his election and his subsequent mayorship brought. Narratively, it works very well for me. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 7/22/2017	I've gotta say, I'm enjoying this character development for Chuffy quite a bit. I did say, when the election ended, that FB weren't done developing the Campaigner and her camp. For once, I'm happy to have been right. I can stomach a Feducci mayorship as long as it's used to give the Campaigner (and, I really hope, the Detective, and possibly even some previous candidates who are still politically active) opportunities to have stories and development. ...After all, our good Bishop likely isn't happy that the current Mayor is in good with Hell. Not happy at all. I'm also pleased to see that FB has managed to disillusion some of his supporters already, without actually penalizing anyone. I mean, the Connected: Revolutionaries increase could perhaps be seen as a penalty, but once Revolutionaries are switched to Favours/Renown, that will probably clear up. But in an election where his opponents (and the narrative) tried to make it clear he's a liar, cheat, and schemer... it only makes sense his supporters get something other than what they expected, but isn't necessarily objectively "worse" from a purely mechanical viewpoint. Not out of any kind of rancor or malice, really; I just find it good storytelling and game design that they can have narrative consequences without gameplay consequences. It's also a good sign that people are invested in the roleplay of their character that those narrative consequences (which wouldn't matter a lick to a non-roleplayer, although I would hazard an assertion that FL has to be far less fun to such a player) actually get their characters upset or disappointed. edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/22/2017 -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Hotshot Blackburn Posts: 110 7/23/2017	While the above revelations are intriguing to hear about (I haven't encountered the card at all yet myself :/) and the Revolutionary thing is hilarious, I now find myself in the opposite camp of most here RPwise My heart lies with the destruction of stars and the death of light. Feducci's system seems to be helping this cause along, or at least the causes of other anarchists and reformers who seek alternative systems. Yet I didn't like the man himself and campaigned against him for a kinder, gentler alternative that would (I thought) have more Revolutionary story potential. I guess...I guess storywise this is actually a really pleasant surprise! And here I'd thought he'd just be knee deep in Hell and Great Game shenanigans. -- Hotshot Blackburn: Messidor, Aspirant to the Calendar Council. Paramount Presence. Seeker of the Name. A firm believer in kindness, solidarity, and sufficient use of force and firepower.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/22/2017	JimmyTMalice wrote: In the Neath, it seems to be more notable if one is not a cannibal. that sounds exactly like something a cannibal would say -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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xKiv Posts: 846 7/22/2017	Tystefy wrote: He's also un-killable, so good luck RPers. He's presumably less unkillable than Mr. Eaten was. -- https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/22/2017	FL might be trying out a new kind of game mechanics here- a mayorship that actually has narrative weight (and it does) and something of a year-long plot. If so, I wouldn't be surprised if the options on this card actually changed with time and new developments. For now Feducci might be allies with revolutionaries, because they're both being constricted by laws and royalty or what not (GUNPOWDER PLOT GUNPOWDER PLOT GUNDPOWDER PLOT DO IT YOU COWARDS), but ultimately Feducci seems to be aiming for making society into a ferris wheel (missed linguistic opportunity. its called "devil's mill" in polish)- up and down, up and down, and quite fun to ride. Or maybe rather rollercoaster. Or anything else that makes people with weaker stomachs nauseous to ride (hey there, Iron Republic). But not to turn the carnival lights off and end the fun for everyone. Also, DTC could later give way to certain investigative lady sniffing around Feducci's activities etc. she did say the election fight wasn't for nothing. OMINOUS. I for one would love a reactive mayoral card that changes as time passes. edit: fixing wonky english. edited by gronostaj on 7/22/2017 -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/22/2017	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Gotta admit, I'm a little fascinated by the apparently popularity of viewpoints like "I'm all for overturning the social order, and 100% on board with factions whose entire way of life - perhaps even their very conception of reality - is entirely different to our own, but I won't have anything to do with those darned Revolutionaries!" I mean there's a difference between "overthrow the social order" and "Destroy all light and laws". When it comes to revolutionaries it's hard to see that line with the people in that faction. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/21/2017	I remember predicting, half-seriously, that Feducci's card would have an RNG component. I mean, it made perfect sense given his platform...I just wasn't sure Failbetter would actually go that length. This is a nice confirmation that the election stories do indeed make a difference, right down to the mechanics of the mayor's card. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/21/2017	Feducci's campaign was all about throwing over the existing social order ... by Liberating it ... this is what Revolutionaries want ... he is one of their own, if not in membership, then at least in ends (and, given his penchant for violence, means). Jenny granted Dock favours because she worked very hard to improve their lot ... helping her was helping them. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/22/2017	Teaspoon wrote: The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space. Nope, they're an evil cannibal cult :P
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/22/2017	Everyone seems to be confused as to why Feducci is in league with the revolutionaries, which is a bit odd to me. Even if you weren't aware of his ties to the Season of Revolutions in Hell and their work with the anarchists in the Iron Republic, his whole platform was upturning the social order and he's known for playing for multiple factions other than the Presbyterate. In fact, Feducci may actually be working against the Presbyterate's will in favor of freedom. [spoiler]I say this because Feducci's promotion of ideals in liberty, equality, and eternity are present in Sunless Sea's immortality ambition. In it, you're reassembling a faction that will once again try to take immortality from the Presbyterate and the Mountain of Light. One of the leaders was a man by the name of Bourdain, a frenchman who was a member of the Calendar Council before being absorbed into Frostfound and fighting for the revolutionary cause behind icy glass. Throughout questlines involving him, you see his agents targeting Presbyter leaders with lifespans longer than most humans and his wish to bring immortality and health to any and all for free.[/spoiler] If he and the Contrarian are indication, it's pretty clear that not all revolutionary members of any rank are 100% behind the LoN. Some merely push social reform for a more democratic society, some want to even use the laws of light to be twisted to their own wants for the betterment of others. Basically, revolutionary doesn't automatically mean omnicidal and/or reality-breaking anarchists. If anything, we may see soon enough just how Feducci plans to fight the social structure and use it for his purposes. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/22/2017 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Siankan Posts: 1048 8/3/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: I just thought of another potential explanation for why Feducci is being all buddy buddy with the Revolutionaries. We know he's a paid agent of the Presbyterate and Hell. Now, if either power wanted to destabilize London, empowering the more hotheaded and violent Revolutionaries would be the natural way to go about it. Perhaps. However, the dialogue with his campaign manager rather suggests that Feducci was involved with Hell's revolution precisely because it was a revolution, and that he may not be so terribly close to Hell now. If anything, I would say that a Revolutionary bent involved him with Hell, rather than the other way around. That said, I don't think Feducci's revolutionary leanings spring from a deep love of democracy or socialism or whatever your favorite bomb-maker is espousing today. I rather think he just enjoys stirring the pot. -- Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/26/2017	Harlocke wrote: Feducci may be unkillable, but I have a man-eating plant in my house that would be happy to chew on him for a year Sarlacc-style. There is an entire chapel of people who would be happy to do the same forever. edited by Passionario on 7/26/2017 -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/4/2017	suinicide wrote: Do we actually know he really wanted the job? All I remember is he worked the job. "I still can't understand why he requested that low station in his post-revolutionary years. But they seemed to serve his ends well." -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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gronostaj Posts: 403 8/4/2017	suinicide wrote: Do we actually know he really wanted the job? All I remember is he worked the job. we do, and he did, but we don't know the most interesting thing; what for. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary Posts: 26 7/23/2017	Hotshot Blackburn wrote: While the above revelations are intriguing to hear about (I haven't encountered the card at all yet myself :/) and the Revolutionary thing is hilarious, I now find myself in the opposite camp of most here RPwise My heart lies with the destruction of stars and the death of light. Feducci's system seems to be helping this cause along, or at least the causes of other anarchists and reformers who seek alternative systems. Yet I didn't like the man himself and campaigned against him for a kinder, gentler alternative that would (I thought) have more Revolutionary story potential. I guess...I guess storywise this is actually a really pleasant surprise! And here I'd thought he'd just be knee deep in Hell and Great Game shenanigans. I stand exactly in the same spot, I was expecting the DTC to have the Revolutionary storyline, and I very much campaigned because of it and because I also disliked Feducci's actions. Now it seems he's going slightly towards a revolution, although it isn't the same as The Liberation I want
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/23/2017	Isaac Zienfried wrote: Uuuugh, the very idea of eating teeth is just- Like, jeez, Failbetter, way to just press the 'that's frigging gross, dude' button. I still feel queasy. edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/23/2017 what? no, teeth are great. i love teeth. i love the cronch -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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JimmyTMalice Posts: 237 7/22/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Teaspoon wrote: The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space. Nope, they're an evil cannibal cult :P In the Neath, it seems to be more notable if one is not a cannibal. -- Gideon Stormstrider, the Esoteric Gadgeteer Jimmy T. Malice, gone. A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary Posts: 26 7/21/2017	In my view,the Revolutionary connection can be explained with the simple fact that Feducci is a Foreign Agent, which is a part of the Faction. In FL, anyone that fights against the system is considered a revolutionary, even if it's for another system,so,in dueling in front of Feducci, the Player Character is playing a part in Feducci's games, and is thus attaining his personal liking, which explains the increase in revolutionary connection
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/21/2017	So the results are indeed based on luck? I hope for a good payout then. In before one option where you bet everything you own for double the money. edited by Kylestien on 7/21/2017 -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/21/2017	Kylestien wrote: In before one option where you bet everything you own for double the money. What an exciting and dangerous alternative to Fidgeting Writer that would be. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/21/2017	Investigating the Mayor appears to give some Making Waves (1-2 CP so far) and a Scrap of Incendiary Gossip. So not really worth it, except for the text, if one is curious.
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Wiwo Posts: 365 7/21/2017	So far, the card doesn't appear to be nearly as profitable as the previous one was. That would be a shame. -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary Posts: 26 7/22/2017	If you think about it, the erradication of light is the overthrowing of a more ancient and pervasive social order.
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/22/2017	So the mayor lied about something. That's not very surprising going by his track record. -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/22/2017	I've never left London to visit the Iron Republic. It's on my list of things to do whenever I feel that I might be able to muster the... enthusiasm. So I had no idea Feducci had anything in particular to do with London's revolutionaries. The Season of Revolutions is something that was only brought to my attention during the election. I'm woefully uninformed, aren't I? Akernis wrote: Having my chosen candidate supporting the one thing I hate without having even a hint of that during the election, that is a rather bitter pill to swallow. While there was that infernal campaign manager to imply that a vote for Feducci might be a vote for Favours: Hell, I thought that it was fairly evident that his political platform would end up serving anarchy and revolution, whether that was his aim or not. Though I certainly didn't expect that it would serve the Revolutionaries to the extent that those would be the Favours we'd get.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1789 7/27/2017	We all were, but... Feducci disappointing people and not serving their needs is kind of his narrative theme. So I insist that the card is very fitting, storywise. Not negative, but still it reminds you of who the mayor is. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/22/2017	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Feducci's campaign was all about throwing over the existing social order ... by Liberating it ... this is what Revolutionaries want ... he is one of their own, if not in membership, then at least in ends (and, given his penchant for violence, means). I'm pretty confident Feducci is not himself a LoN Revolutionary, his ideas are way too different - "Climb the Chain," "Equality in Death." But he's obviously willing to throw himself in with them for his own reasons out of their mutual distaste for law and shared affinity for violence. He probably thinks he's using them and they probably think they're using him. So who do you think would come out on top, the immortal dilettante or the Calendar Council? Akernis wrote: Having my chosen candidate supporting the one thing I hate without having even a hint of that during the election, that is a rather bitter pill to swallow. I contend there were plenty of hints as to what was to come. But it's not too late to oppose him ^_^ . edited by Anne Auclair on 7/22/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Akernis Posts: 255 7/22/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: The Revolutionary connection is kind of ironic, given how much the Campaigners "revolutionary connections" were made an issue of :P Though it is surprising, I was expecting Feducci's administration to be closest to Hell... It's rather frustrating. This is exactly the kind of thing I would have wanted to come up during the election. My character hates the revolutionaries with a passion and yet campaigned ardently for Feducci because she is close to Hell and admires the Presbyterate. Had I known during the election that his term in office would aid the revolutionaries I would have supported one of the other candidates instead. Having my chosen candidate loose I can deal with, at least then I would know I fought for what I wanted. Having my chosen candidate supporting the one thing I hate without having even a hint of that during the election, that is a rather bitter pill to swallow. Well, here's to hoping that the story and meeting at the next festival are entertaining enough to make up for it. -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 7/22/2017	I mean, we did try to make it clear Feducci's not exactly an honest person... -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Curious Foreigner Posts: 210 7/22/2017	A reminder: While ultimately most if not all revolutionaries are steered towards aiding the Liberation of Night through the Calendar Council, that does in no way mean there aren't revolutionaries who don't know and/or don't care for it. The revolutionaries are a very divided faction. Feducci being in cahoots with it alone says nothing about wether or not he's thrown his lot in with the Liberation crowd. -- Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.) The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 7/21/2017	Noooooo... No favors? Already I dislike this mayor, because the one way he interacts with me is less useful than the one way his predecessor did. -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Wiwo Posts: 365 7/21/2017	That's a fair point. We may find ourselves somewhat more enthused if/when this card starts giving favours. -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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Kaijyuu Posts: 1047 7/21/2017	I sort of get the feeling the favors granted are pulled out of a hat. Jenny is/was/its complicated a nun, right? Yet no Church favor from her. Nor were criminals particularly associated with her. Docks only tentatively through her platform. Fedduci's given favors are from factions soon to be converted, and I don't think that's a coincidence. Either of the other two candidates probably would have similarly given favors from the 4 factions that are being converted right now.. -- Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
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SirKorran Posts: 45 7/21/2017	Hm, I still wonder why is Feducci enmeshed with revolutionaries? I mean, docks, criminals, even Great Game could fit him much more... Why would his card be tied to that particular faction? It would be nice, by the way, if the faction could be also chosen randomly (and amount of CP!) After all, Fair Play! -- Truly and honorably yours, SirKorran Curiosity killed a lot of cats. And counting...
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/22/2017	Dunno about that; I get the idea that cannibalism is still frowned upon in polite London society. Now the Underzee on the other hand... -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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xKiv Posts: 846 7/22/2017	Tystefy wrote: Idea: Just add an option to the mayor card that has a #% chance to give the player a random favour from a random faction. Yes, randomize it twice. Fair Play, Fair Game. You did not gain a favour, because you did not have exactly 1d6 ? -- https://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/xKiv - a witchful, percussive, dangermous and shadowry scholar of coexplodence, hopsidirean, and walker of fallen kitties.
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 7/22/2017	Cannibalism is still very much a no-no in London. Heck, even on the Zee, I'm pretty sure it's considered disgusting and dark and inhuman. The hungers and the dreams and the urges of Seeking and the lessons of the Chapel aren't considered normal or humdrum by any means. -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/22/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: Since Feducci's supporters are armed, while the protesters are not, An unarmed Londoner? Come on. It says in your (rare sucess?) snippet that Chuffy's larks keep them from attacking each other. The protesters were apparently 100% ready to tango, and I doubt they were planning on impaling themselves heroically upon mayor's supporter's swords while holding hands. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/23/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: Iyou can win his little gun duels by cheating and shooting your opponent before the signal is given? actually, both you and opponent win via shooting before mark is given. It's a classic case of "if everyone is cheating, then no one is". There's a real-life card game centered around this principle. Very pleasant. Duels got so mainstream. They're held in a de facto casino, and treated as just a part of gambling, and apparently they're to first blood. Duels to first blood? Who are you, bandaged man, and what you did to real Feducci. edited by gronostaj on 7/23/2017 -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Curious Foreigner Posts: 210 7/23/2017	Kylestien wrote: (Duels to first blood? Who are you, bandaged man, and what you did to real Feducci.) The only reason it's not to the death this time is because if everyone in London dies by duel there's noone for him to be Mayor of. Still, mere Duels to first blood goes too far. Just forbidding duels to Final Death would have been enough. -- Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.) The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/22/2017	Chronos wrote: Spitfire Youngster wrote: Anyone got echos for the options available on the card? Here you are: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12142477 (win the luck challenge) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12139124 (investigating) I seem to have stumbled on an alternative version of the protest option, perhaps a rare result, wherein the mayor attempts to instigate violence between the peaceful protesters and his armed mob, only to be thwarted by the lighthearted larks of Chuffy. The rewards seem the same as the normal version. So...the mayor just tried to instigate violence between armed supporters and peaceful protesters. Yeah... "Hans, is Mayor Feducci a baddie?" Curious Foreigner wrote: A reminder: While ultimately most if not all revolutionaries are steered towards aiding the Liberation of Night through the Calendar Council, that does in no way mean there aren't revolutionaries who don't know and/or don't care for it. The revolutionaries are a very divided faction. Feducci being in cahoots with it alone says nothing about wether or not he's thrown his lot in with the Liberation crowd. That's true, but the Revolutionaries who favor violent methods tend to be Liberation hardliners, while Liberation-skeptics like the Contrarian generally favor democracy and peaceful reform. I very much doubt that the Revolutionaries showing up for Feducci's duels, who are chatting with him about violent conspiracies, are from the Contrarian's crowd. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/22/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Siankan Posts: 1048 7/26/2017	I ought to have said this before, but recalling my statement right after the election when I hoped to see more of the Campaigner and the Detective in the coming year, I wanted to tip my hat to whomever decided to put a vignette of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner on the Mayor card. Well played indeed. -- Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 8/4/2017	Isaac Zienfried wrote: ... the greatest fight is the fight to better the world. Bettering the world isn't a fight, it's a struggle. Struggles aren't much fun. And if one is literally fighting to better the world, chances are that one is actually making the world worse, because violence begets violence. And for most people, a world with more violence isn't a better world.
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WinterIV Posts: 68 7/26/2017	Were we really expecting him to be that close to Hell after the election? I seem to remember that they had a bit of a falling out around the middle of the campaign? I tracked down some echoes in my journal, but it seems like his hellish campaign manager quit halfway through. Or, at least, that is how it read to me. Extra Emphasis added Note #1 Week 1 Infiltrating the heart of Feducci's campaign is easy enough; campaign staff come and go and the Guildhall of Victuallers is a riot of colour and chaos. Butchers and campaigners meet on the wine dark stone and debate the best ways to carve up the electorate. A little flattery gets you access to some very important ears indeed. -"Feducci's campaign manager"- transpires to be a very Indulgent Devil, whose red eyes smoulder like the rising of Mars. "Of course," he tells you in a voice like molten honey, "Feducci has helped us in the past, when the apparatus of state weighed on our liberty. When we felled all thrones, he was in the vanguard. I think he rather misses such grand sport." Note #2 Week 2 Feducci's dusty offices are a chaos of discarded paper. Abandoned manifestos (all contradicting each other) litter the plush carpets. On one large blackboard, Feducci has listed his campaign's principles in heavy Gothic majuscule: All Could Rise, Most Shan't. Equality in Death, Liberty in License.' An impenetrable spiderweb of notes in various other handwriting suggests many hours spent over the blackboard trying to put these principles into policy, with little success. Contrasted with Feducci's plan for electoral victory, with target constituencies, voting blocs, and resources to be distributed clearly and precisely laid out, it leaves something wanting. -"You discover the journal of one irate Campaign Manager, detailing a long litany of unhappy frustrations."- edited by WinterIV on 7/26/2017
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suinicide Posts: 2409 8/4/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: Siankan wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: I just thought of another potential explanation for why Feducci is being all buddy buddy with the Revolutionaries. We know he's a paid agent of the Presbyterate and Hell. Now, if either power wanted to destabilize London, empowering the more hotheaded and violent Revolutionaries would be the natural way to go about it. Perhaps. However, the dialogue with his campaign manager rather suggests that Feducci was involved with Hell's revolution precisely because it was a revolution, and that he may not be so terribly close to Hell now. If anything, I would say that a Revolutionary bent involved him with Hell, rather than the other way around. It's worth remembering that Hell paid him though. They gave him that plum slaving position that he wanted so much. Maybe he wants something else from them. Do we actually know he really wanted the job? All I remember is he worked the job. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 8/4/2017	Probably the adventurous and exciting life on the high zee. Row, row, row my ship, roughly on the zee...
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Aubergion Posts: 24 7/24/2017	I'm actually quite appreciative of the Revolutionaries favors, if only because I can literally never get any Connected to them. It's good to have friends in all sorts of places. -- Solange Dovera-Rooke - Author-turned-Midnighter, perspicacious and flirtatious. Always available for interactions - especially Lethal Sparring Bouts and Orphanage visits. Lord Castameer - perpetually searching for answers, a name, acknowledgement, truth, recompense, retribution ------- a reckoning. Loitering and cats welcomed.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/23/2017	I suspect both the Campaigner and Feducci have revolutionary storylines, given their respective histories. The DTC was friends with the late March, while Feducci of course fought alongside Hell's Revolutionaries. As it is, both are acting fairly revolutionary in their own way, Feducci with his violent intrigues and the Campaigner with her nonstop street protests. I've been thinking about Feducci's slogan: Fair Play, Fair Game. How should we square this slogan with the fact that you can win his little gun duels by cheating and shooting your opponent before the signal is given? One way would be to say that his slogan was a case of straightforward deception, but I don't think so, for all Feducci's dishonesty he seems a bit too committed to his "principles." Then I realized that it also depends upon how you say the slogan. Most of us have been saying and thinking it like this: Fair Play. Fair Game. Two distinct promises in one statement, a London of fair play with a fair game. But you can think and say it with a different emphasis that dramatically changes the meaning: Fair Play, Fair Game. As in, Fair Play is Fair Game. When you look at this campaign statements, he never actually promised fair play: "I mean to even the odds. We can't change everything about the game; The kings and queens of the game are ensconced, but what if we changed the rules?" The expectation that you wait for the signal before shooting your opponent is, after all, just another arbitrary rule. Which, among other things, suggests Feducci is assembling a private army of ruthless cheats. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Hotshot Blackburn Posts: 110 7/23/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: I suspect both the Campaigner and Feducci have revolutionary storylines, given their respective histories. The DTC was friends with the late March, while Feducci of course fought alongside Hell's Revolutionaries. As it is, both are acting fairly revolutionary in their own way, Feducci with his violent intrigues and the Campaigner with her nonstop street protests. I've been thinking about Feducci's slogan: Fair Play, Fair Game. How should we square this slogan with the fact that you can win his little gun duels by cheating and shooting your opponent before the signal is given? One way would be to say that his slogan was a case of straightforward deception, but I don't think so, for all Feducci's dishonesty he seems a bit too committed to his &quotprinciples.&quot Then I realized that it also depends upon how you say the slogan. Most of us have been saying and thinking it like this: Fair Play. Fair Game. Two distinct promises in one statement, a London of fair play with a fair game. But you can think and say it with a different emphasis that dramatically changes the meaning: Fair Play, Fair Game. As in, Fair Play is Fair Game. When you look at this campaign statements, he never actually promised fair play: &quotI mean to even the odds. We can't change everything about the game; The kings and queens of the game are ensconced, but what if we changed the rules?&quot The expectation that you wait for the signal before shooting your opponent is, after all, just another arbitrary rule. Which, among other things, suggests Feducci is assembling a private army of ruthless cheats. And it could be worked in reverse as well, really: Fair Game, Fair Play. But if there is no Fair Game in the first place - if the very system is rigged from the start - then why should there be Fair Play? -- Hotshot Blackburn: Messidor, Aspirant to the Calendar Council. Paramount Presence. Seeker of the Name. A firm believer in kindness, solidarity, and sufficient use of force and firepower.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/22/2017	gronostaj wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: So...the mayor just tried to instigate violence between armed supporters and peaceful protesters. Yeah... where does it say that it's Feducci who instigated the quarrel? I mean it's a fair assumption because Feducci, but it could as well have been one of his bored supporters or or revolutionaries or even one of the campaigners, unsatisfied with the "peaceful" part of "peaceful protest" Someone ordered or paid off the police to leave the scene. Since Feducci's supporters are armed, while the protesters are not, it doesn't make sense for the Campaigner's people to pay the cops to leave. The fact that Chuffy's larks worked and diffused tensions indicates that it wasn't anyone in the crowd who was set on violence happening - the plan was for it to break out on its own. That leaves the Mayor, for whom it would be perfectly in-character to do something like that, and since he has his supporters bearing arms he is clearly courting violence already... Means, motive, opportunity. . edited by Anne Auclair on 7/22/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/22/2017	I think the item gains from this card are a bit random - I just protested against Feducci and only got 1 Incendiary Gossip, and I want to say that someone got 2 Tales of Terror for losing the luck check. So it might just be a simple 1-2 of the 50p items for the two options. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/21/2017	I wonder if winning the luck check after Revolutionaries is converted to the Renown/Favours system will grant 2 Favours instead of one, or if the only difference between winning and losing is a minor bit of Wounds. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 7/21/2017	Aha, good point. I guess I do like our new mayor then -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/22/2017	I don't think Feducci is in cahoots with the Revolutionaries. It's just that they benefit from his activities, so they're most likely rewarding people who take part in those activities to encourage those people to keep doing so.
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 7/22/2017	Curious Foreigner wrote: that does in no way mean there aren't revolutionaries who don't know and/or don't care for it There is no third way. Or so we of the Contrarian's camp have been told... -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Harlocke Posts: 506 7/22/2017	Tystefy wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: But it's not too late to oppose him ^_^ What part of One Year Term do you not understand? He's also un-killable, so good luck RPers. Feducci may be unkillable, but I have a man-eating plant in my house that would be happy to chew on him for a year Sarlacc-style. -- I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Harlocke
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Tystefy Posts: 450 7/22/2017	Idea: Just add an option to the mayor card that has a #% chance to give the player a random favour from a random faction. Yes, randomize it twice. Fair Play, Fair Game. -- Will sometimes return to post absurdity.
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Tystefy Posts: 450 7/22/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: But it's not too late to oppose him ^_^ What part of One Year Term do you not understand? He's also un-killable, so good luck RPers. -- Will sometimes return to post absurdity.
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Spitfire Youngster Posts: 32 7/22/2017	Anyone got echos for the options available on the card? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Spitfire%20Youngster Professional troublemaker, not a single regret since [REDACTED]
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Chronos Posts: 135 7/22/2017	Spitfire Youngster wrote: Anyone got echos for the options available on the card? Here you are: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12142477 (win the luck challenge) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12139124 (investigating) -- Please don't send me harmful social actions main: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Chronos78 alt: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Chronos2
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/22/2017	Tystefy wrote: Idea: Just add an option to the mayor card that has a #% chance to give the player a random favour from a random faction. Yes, randomize it twice. Fair Play, Fair Game. That would mitigate the consequences of Feducci's election, so I'm against it :P There was an election and London chose a a mayor obsessed with social revolution and violence, running on a platform of social revolution and violence. The Revolutionary support is a twist that makes sense. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/22/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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crazyroosterman Posts: 187 7/21/2017	Tystefy wrote: gronostaj wrote: Kylestien wrote: In before one option where you bet everything you own for double the money. What an exciting and dangerous alternative to Fidgeting Writer that would be. What. Where is this. are you referring to said fidgeting writer grind?. edited by crazyroosterman on 7/21/2017
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/21/2017	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Pumpkinhead wrote: Noooooo... No favors? Already I dislike this mayor, because the one way he interacts with me is less useful than the one way his predecessor did. Who could possibly have foreseen this??? ;-) The favors are coming, the Revolutionaries and Society just need to be converted to the Renown system. I'm pretty sure they're next on the list? Feducci is different from Jenny in that your direct interaction has a pretty good chance of giving you a wound menace along with the reward. For comparison, helping Jenny's literacy program always gave you: 1 Dock favor, 3 Bottles of Greyfields 1879, and 1-2 Zee-Ztories, while scheming with the Bishop gave you 1 Criminal favor and 1-2 Compromising Documents. Currently fighting for Feducci's amusement and failing the luck challenge will give you wounds, 1-2 Tales of Terror, and some connected Revolutionaries. Beating the odds and winning the fight gives you the same result, only minus the wounds. Presumably when the change from connected to favors occurs, fighting the duel will give you one Revolutionary favor. Breaking it down into monetary terms and assuming conversion, if you gamble with Feducci and lose, you at gain between 50 pennies and 1 echo + 1 favor + wounds. If you gamble and manage to beat the odds, you gain the same without gaining any wounds. If you protest with the Campaigner, you gain at minimum 50 pennies + 1 favor, while at maximum you'd gain 1 echo + 1 favor, and there is never the risk of wounds. EDIT: The first version of this post did not take into account that there was an additional, random variation in Tales and Terror and Incendiary Gossip received. Corrected. EDIT 2: The wiki says you get equal amounts of connected Revolutionaries regardless of how the duel goes, so presumably the number of favors would be the same as well. So it seems the duel result only effects whether you get a wound or not. Corrected. . edited by Anne Auclair on 7/25/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/21/2017	Pumpkinhead wrote: Noooooo... No favors? Already I dislike this mayor, because the one way he interacts with me is less useful than the one way his predecessor did. Who could possibly have foreseen this??? ;-) -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/22/2017	Isaac Zienfried wrote: ...After all, our good Bishop likely isn't happy that the current Mayor is in good with Hell. Not happy at all. good point! Where's the Hell i've been promised. Also, if Feducci is in bed with revolutionaries now, maybe Contrarian could make an appearance. I miss him. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/22/2017	gronostaj wrote: An unarmed Londoner? Come on. There are actually quite a few of them. gronostaj wrote: It says in your (rare sucess?) snippet that Chuffy's larks keep them from attacking each other. The protesters were apparently 100% ready to tango, and I doubt they were planning on impaling themselves heroically upon mayor's supporter's swords while holding hands. It's pretty clear in the regular text that only Feducci's people have weapons. Up in arms wrote: The protesters stand outside the Mayoral Manor. A platoon of Feducci's supporters, armed with swords and rifles, face them: the Constables simply watch from the sidelines, there only to intervene in case of homicidal disagreement. The protesters are unarmed. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/22/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/22/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: There are actually quite a few of them. Like DTC, who is very conveniently Not There? #illuminati confirmed i'm pretty sure no one goes unarmed somewhere where possibility of "homicidal disagreement" is high, even in modern society. And historically, protesters provoking the ruling party into a violent reaction is just as popular as provocateurs sent amongst protesters to pretend to be protesters provoking the ruling party into viol-... well, you get my point. I suppose it would just be a little boring if the most obvious answer turned out to be true. Failbetter spoiled me with all the juicy plot twists. As for the edit on your post (sorry, saw just now), a lot of people have means, motive and opportunity here. Not only people anyway. Masters pissed off by Feducci trying to murder the legislations have a great opportunity to make him fuss about protests and violence and whatnot instead of carrying out his potentially nefarious plan. He's pretty easily distracted by all that shooting, after all. edit: boring not voring jesus christ edited by gronostaj on 7/22/2017 -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 7/23/2017	I don't recall actually eating anyone as I went through seeking. I kind of remember being given the choice, but I don't recall anything but teeth, and those were my own. Granted I don't have the best memory for FL stuff -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 7/23/2017	Uuuugh, the very idea of eating teeth is just- Like, jeez, Failbetter, way to just press the 'that's frigging gross, dude' button. I still feel queasy. edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/23/2017 -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/23/2017	(Duels to first blood? Who are you, bandaged man, and what you did to real Feducci.) The only reason it's not to the death this time is because if everyone in London dies by duel there's noone for him to be Mayor of. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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gronostaj Posts: 403 7/26/2017	WinterIV wrote: Were we really expecting him to be that close to Hell after the election? Not really (I think that, on forum at least, it's mostly the other candidates' supporters were dreading he'll mass-sell Londoners' souls to Hell at a discount or something alike), especially after the second-week fall-out. But I wasn't expecting Revolutionaries favours, despite his platform being full of that revolutionary spiel. Not that it doesn't make sense, when you spin it right, but.... I always think of revolutionaries as having some Cause with capital C in mind, and Feducci.... well, with the hot'n'cold way he picks up and drops allies, such as his devillish (and right now, likely very salty) campaign ex-manager, and the player themselves if they're a Loser, and with the Presbyterate connection, I was genuinely hoping for Great Game favours. Would love Docks, or Criminals even. Instead, we got that. -- Gronostaj (pl. Ermine), a decadent duellist of mysterious and indistinct gender. Seeker. Willing to die- but not of boredom. Open to all social actions, including the harmful ones. Soft-Spoken Surgeon, a doctor who owes an onerous debt. Professor of medicine at the University by day, at criminal employ by night. Open to all non-harmful social actions.
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Isaac Zienfried Posts: 364 8/3/2017	Siankan wrote: That said, I don't think Feducci's revolutionary leanings spring from a deep love of democracy or socialism or whatever your favorite bomb-maker is espousing today. I rather think he just enjoys stirring the pot. He just enjoys a good fight. If only he, and his followers, had realized the greatest fight is the fight to better the world. I can assure you it keeps me damnably busy, and there's always another battle after one is won or lost. -- Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.' A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals. But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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