Harlocke
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Tystefy wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
But it's not too late to oppose him ^_^
What part of One Year Term do you not understand? He's also un-killable, so good luck RPers.
Feducci may be unkillable, but I have a man-eating plant in my house that would be happy to chew on him for a year Sarlacc-style.
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Anne Auclair
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7/22/2017
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Tystefy wrote:
Idea: Just add an option to the mayor card that has a #% chance to give the player a random favour from a random faction.
Yes, randomize it twice. Fair Play, Fair Game.
That would mitigate the consequences of Feducci's election, so I'm against it :P
There was an election and London chose a a mayor obsessed with social revolution and violence, running on a platform of social revolution and violence. The Revolutionary support is a twist that makes sense.
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Anne Auclair
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7/22/2017
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Chronos wrote:
Spitfire Youngster wrote:
Anyone got echos for the options available on the card?
Here you are:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12142477 (win the luck challenge)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chronos78?fromEchoId=12139124 (investigating)
I seem to have stumbled on an alternative version of the protest option, perhaps a rare result, wherein the mayor attempts to instigate violence between the peaceful protesters and his armed mob, only to be thwarted by the lighthearted larks of Chuffy. The rewards seem the same as the normal version.
So...the mayor just tried to instigate violence between armed supporters and peaceful protesters. Yeah...
"Hans, is Mayor Feducci a baddie?"
Curious Foreigner wrote:
A reminder: While ultimately most if not all revolutionaries are steered towards aiding the Liberation of Night through the Calendar Council, that does in no way mean there aren't revolutionaries who don't know and/or don't care for it.
The revolutionaries are a very divided faction. Feducci being in cahoots with it alone says nothing about wether or not he's thrown his lot in with the Liberation crowd.
That's true, but the Revolutionaries who favor violent methods tend to be Liberation hardliners, while Liberation-skeptics like the Contrarian generally favor democracy and peaceful reform. I very much doubt that the Revolutionaries showing up for Feducci's duels, who are chatting with him about violent conspiracies, are from the Contrarian's crowd.
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Teaspoon
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7/22/2017
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The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space.
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gronostaj
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7/22/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
So...the mayor just tried to instigate violence between armed supporters and peaceful protesters. Yeah...
where does it say that it's Feducci who instigated the quarrel? I mean it's a fair assumption because Feducci, but it could as well have been one of his bored supporters or or revolutionaries or even one of the campaigners, unsatisfied with the "peaceful" part of "peaceful protest"
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
7/22/2017
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gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
So...the mayor just tried to instigate violence between armed supporters and peaceful protesters. Yeah...
where does it say that it's Feducci who instigated the quarrel? I mean it's a fair assumption because Feducci, but it could as well have been one of his bored supporters or or revolutionaries or even one of the campaigners, unsatisfied with the "peaceful" part of "peaceful protest"
Someone ordered or paid off the police to leave the scene. Since Feducci's supporters are armed, while the protesters are not, it doesn't make sense for the Campaigner's people to pay the cops to leave. The fact that Chuffy's larks worked and diffused tensions indicates that it wasn't anyone in the crowd who was set on violence happening - the plan was for it to break out on its own. That leaves the Mayor, for whom it would be perfectly in-character to do something like that, and since he has his supporters bearing arms he is clearly courting violence already... Means, motive, opportunity.
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Kukapetal
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7/22/2017
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Teaspoon wrote:
The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space.
Nope, they're an evil cannibal cult :P
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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7/22/2017
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Everyone seems to be confused as to why Feducci is in league with the revolutionaries, which is a bit odd to me. Even if you weren't aware of his ties to the Season of Revolutions in Hell and their work with the anarchists in the Iron Republic, his whole platform was upturning the social order and he's known for playing for multiple factions other than the Presbyterate. In fact, Feducci may actually be working against the Presbyterate's will in favor of freedom.
[spoiler]I say this because Feducci's promotion of ideals in liberty, equality, and eternity are present in Sunless Sea's immortality ambition. In it, you're reassembling a faction that will once again try to take immortality from the Presbyterate and the Mountain of Light. One of the leaders was a man by the name of Bourdain, a frenchman who was a member of the Calendar Council before being absorbed into Frostfound and fighting for the revolutionary cause behind icy glass. Throughout questlines involving him, you see his agents targeting Presbyter leaders with lifespans longer than most humans and his wish to bring immortality and health to any and all for free.[/spoiler]
If he and the Contrarian are indication, it's pretty clear that not all revolutionary members of any rank are 100% behind the LoN. Some merely push social reform for a more democratic society, some want to even use the laws of light to be twisted to their own wants for the betterment of others. Basically, revolutionary doesn't automatically mean omnicidal and/or reality-breaking anarchists. If anything, we may see soon enough just how Feducci plans to fight the social structure and use it for his purposes.
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gronostaj
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7/22/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Since Feducci's supporters are armed, while the protesters are not,
An unarmed Londoner? Come on. It says in your (rare sucess?) snippet that Chuffy's larks keep them from attacking each other. The protesters were apparently 100% ready to tango, and I doubt they were planning on impaling themselves heroically upon mayor's supporter's swords while holding hands.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
7/22/2017
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gronostaj wrote:
An unarmed Londoner? Come on.
There are actually quite a few of them.
gronostaj wrote:
It says in your (rare sucess?) snippet that Chuffy's larks keep them from attacking each other. The protesters were apparently 100% ready to tango, and I doubt they were planning on impaling themselves heroically upon mayor's supporter's swords while holding hands.
It's pretty clear in the regular text that only Feducci's people have weapons.
Up in arms wrote:
The protesters stand outside the Mayoral Manor. A platoon of Feducci's supporters, armed with swords and rifles, face them: the Constables simply watch from the sidelines, there only to intervene in case of homicidal disagreement.
The protesters are unarmed.
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gronostaj
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7/22/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
There are actually quite a few of them.
Like DTC, who is very conveniently Not There? #illuminati confirmed  i'm pretty sure no one goes unarmed somewhere where possibility of "homicidal disagreement" is high, even in modern society. And historically, protesters provoking the ruling party into a violent reaction is just as popular as provocateurs sent amongst protesters to pretend to be protesters provoking the ruling party into viol-... well, you get my point. I suppose it would just be a little boring if the most obvious answer turned out to be true. Failbetter spoiled me with all the juicy plot twists.
As for the edit on your post (sorry, saw just now), a lot of people have means, motive and opportunity here. Not only people anyway. Masters pissed off by Feducci trying to murder the legislations have a great opportunity to make him fuss about protests and violence and whatnot instead of carrying out his potentially nefarious plan. He's pretty easily distracted by all that shooting, after all.
edit: boring not voring jesus christ
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Isaac Zienfried
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7/22/2017
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I've gotta say, I'm enjoying this character development for Chuffy quite a bit.
I did say, when the election ended, that FB weren't done developing the Campaigner and her camp. For once, I'm happy to have been right. I can stomach a Feducci mayorship as long as it's used to give the Campaigner (and, I really hope, the Detective, and possibly even some previous candidates who are still politically active) opportunities to have stories and development.
...After all, our good Bishop likely isn't happy that the current Mayor is in good with Hell. Not happy at all.
I'm also pleased to see that FB has managed to disillusion some of his supporters already, without actually penalizing anyone. I mean, the Connected: Revolutionaries increase could perhaps be seen as a penalty, but once Revolutionaries are switched to Favours/Renown, that will probably clear up. But in an election where his opponents (and the narrative) tried to make it clear he's a liar, cheat, and schemer... it only makes sense his supporters get something other than what they expected, but isn't necessarily objectively "worse" from a purely mechanical viewpoint. Not out of any kind of rancor or malice, really; I just find it good storytelling and game design that they can have narrative consequences without gameplay consequences. It's also a good sign that people are invested in the roleplay of their character that those narrative consequences (which wouldn't matter a lick to a non-roleplayer, although I would hazard an assertion that FL has to be far less fun to such a player) actually get their characters upset or disappointed.
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gronostaj
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7/22/2017
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Isaac Zienfried wrote:
...After all, our good Bishop likely isn't happy that the current Mayor is in good with Hell. Not happy at all.
good point! Where's the Hell i've been promised. Also, if Feducci is in bed with revolutionaries now, maybe Contrarian could make an appearance. I miss him.
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JimmyTMalice
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7/22/2017
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Kukapetal wrote:
Teaspoon wrote:
The real surprise to come out of the election: discovering that the Young Stags Club are not entirely a prank-happy waste of space.
Nope, they're an evil cannibal cult :P
In the Neath, it seems to be more notable if one is not a cannibal.
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Teaspoon
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7/22/2017
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Dunno about that; I get the idea that cannibalism is still frowned upon in polite London society.
Now the Underzee on the other hand...
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xKiv
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7/22/2017
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Tystefy wrote:
Idea: Just add an option to the mayor card that has a #% chance to give the player a random favour from a random faction.
Yes, randomize it twice. Fair Play, Fair Game.
You did not gain a favour, because you did not have exactly 1d6 ?
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xKiv
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7/22/2017
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Tystefy wrote:
He's also un-killable, so good luck RPers.
He's presumably less unkillable than Mr. Eaten was.
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Isaac Zienfried
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7/22/2017
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Cannibalism is still very much a no-no in London. Heck, even on the Zee, I'm pretty sure it's considered disgusting and dark and inhuman. The hungers and the dreams and the urges of Seeking and the lessons of the Chapel aren't considered normal or humdrum by any means.
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gronostaj
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7/22/2017
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JimmyTMalice wrote:
In the Neath, it seems to be more notable if one is not a cannibal.
that sounds exactly like something a cannibal would say
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Pumpkinhead
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7/23/2017
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I don't recall actually eating anyone as I went through seeking. I kind of remember being given the choice, but I don't recall anything but teeth, and those were my own.
Granted I don't have the best memory for FL stuff
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