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Gillsing
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8/17/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
Gillsing wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
That leaves Mayor Feducci as the would-be instigator.

Unspecified revolutionaries seem to have just as much to gain by instigating violence.

You mean the same violent revolutionaries who the Mayor is openly palling around with in Blythenhale?

Not necessarily: "Some call them the dynamite faction, but they're very far from united. Socialists, anarchists, foreign agents: only their hatred of the Masters unites them."

Just because it looks like Feducci is the most likely instigator does not make it so. It could also be someone who wants it to look that way.
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gronostaj
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8/17/2017
Gillsing wrote:
Just because it looks like Feducci is the most likely instigator does not make it so. It could also be someone who wants it to look that way.

I'm not sure if Feducci even cares enough to pay off the police, to be honest, or do anything else about these guys camping outside his casino. Obviously protests might be a problem for someone who seriously wants to be a mayor, especially long-term. But Feducci seems to mostly treat being a mayor as something between a hobby and a temporary stepping-stone. To...- something. Collecting the names of eager and lucky murderers, for now. The more he can pass what Anne charmingly calls his "hunger games" legislations, the better he can test people at the murder-ready angle. London changing with it is just a welcome side-effect.

personally I think he might want to take another shot at Arbour. This would explain why he's chilling with dilmun club, asides for fake-coughing at the implacable detective every time she tries to say something about presbyterate. The arbour city from his confession is a clear reference to arcadia (et in arbour/arcadia ego), and arcadia is often depicted as a garden. the garden, actually. the last time he went, he took with him friends, lovers, attendants, and all sorts of colourful, presumably not very well-versed in the art of combat, and currently extra-dead, crowd. Maybe he decided 77 accomplished duellists with guns, swords and plenty luck would be a bet with better odds.

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Fluffy
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8/17/2017
No, the garden is closer to Nidah.
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Anne Auclair
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8/17/2017
Gillsing wrote:

Not necessarily: "Some call them the dynamite faction, but they're very far from united. Socialists, anarchists, foreign agents: only their hatred of the Masters unites them."

Just because it looks like Feducci is the most likely instigator does not make it so. It could also be someone who wants it to look that way.

The Mayor is a very violent and dishonorable man and he has surrounded himself with very violent and dishonorable people. This isn't complicated :P

gronostaj wrote:
I'm not sure if Feducci even cares enough to pay off the police, to be honest, or do anything else about these guys camping outside his casino.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same guy here :P

When you investigate the mayor you learn that Feducci is incredibly angry over his inability to implement his promises. He does not like being thwarted and those protesters are part of what is thwarting him. And the protesters are close enough for the Mayor to hear their shouts and presumably be further irritated by them...
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gronostaj wrote:
But Feducci seems to mostly treat being a mayor as something between a hobby and a temporary stepping-stone. To...- something. Collecting the names of eager and lucky murderers, for now. The more he can pass what Anne charmingly calls his "hunger games" legislations, the better he can test people at the murder-ready angle. London changing with it is just a welcome side-effect.

I think Feducci is only collecting eager and lucky murderers because he is incredibly angry at his inability to implement his "hunger games" legislation and, consequently, he wants to lash out or go for some Hail Mary. His resentment at being thwarted is one of the defining features of his card after all - it's mentioned when you investigate him and he mentions it when you duel for his amusement.
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Not that it would surprise me if there was another, ulterior motive...with Feducci it seems very hard to distinguish between actions that result from his egotism, his opportunism, and his fanaticism.

gronostaj wrote:
personally I think he might want to take another shot at Arbour. This would explain why he's chilling with dilmun club, asides for fake-coughing at the implacable detective every time she tries to say something about presbyterate.

Wait, I seem to have missed or forgotten something. He has a scene where he's chilling at the Dilmun Club?
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gronostaj
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8/17/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:

I'm not sure we're talking about the same guy :P

The mayoral card states that he is incredibly angry over his inability to implement his promises. Feduccui does not like being thwarted and those protesters are part of what is thwarting him. And, as Chuffy makes clear, the protesters are close enough that the Mayor can hear their shouts and presumably be further irritated by them...

i mean, we're also talking about the guy who is chill with being murdered and pays you if you do it, and seems to handle his non-mayoral affairs pretty well, spying and murder hobbies and all that. I just honestly doubt a bunch of protesters would bother him so much. presumably what's stopping him from implementing legislations are the masters, and that's a completly different caliber of opponent than a bunch of prostest sign-weaving randos, no matter how brave and ferocious said randos are.

Anne Auclair wrote:
I think Feducci is only collecting eager and lucky murderers because he is incredibly angry at his inability to implement his "hunger games" legislation and, consequently, he wants to lash out or go for some Hail Mary. His resentment at being thwarted is one of the defining features of his card after all - it's mentioned when you investigate him and he mentions it when you duel for his amusement.


GUNPOWDER PLOT GUNPOWDER PLOT @FEDUCCI DO IT YOU COWARD PULL THE TRIGGER ANTONIO


Anne Auclair wrote:
Wait, I seem to have missed or forgotten something. He has a scene where he's chilling at the Dilmun Club?

actually i made a conclusion jump, sorry. he is chilling around His Amused Lordship and Detective, but both of them are strongly associated with the dilmun club storyline and seekers of the garden in general.

"You recognise faces of note: Feducci the duellist is here, and a certain Implacable Detective. The Detective is reading from a note-book: she describes the unnatural longevity and vitality of people from a land across the Unterzee. She almost mentions the name of the place, but is silenced by a sharp cough from Feducci."

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Anne Auclair
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8/17/2017
gronostaj wrote:
i mean, we're also talking about the guy who is chill with being murdered and pays you if you do it, and seems to handle his non-mayoral affairs pretty well, spying and murder hobbies and all that. I just honestly doubt a bunch of protesters would bother him so much. presumably what's stopping him from implementing legislations are the masters, and that's a completly different caliber of opponent than a bunch of prostest sign-weaving randos, no matter how brave and ferocious said randos are.

I'm pretty sure it's more the Shuttered Palace that is stopping him? Feducci promised to redistribute ranks and titles, he is angry at the bureaucracy (i.e., people like the Wry Functionary) ,and there are rumors that he's out to get the Royal family. Furthermore, the middle class and morally outraged protesters are being quietly supported by aristocratic Society and the center of Society is...the Shuttered Palace.

gronostaj wrote:
GUNPOWDER PLOT GUNPOWDER PLOT @FEDUCCI DO IT YOU COWARD PULL THE TRIGGER ANTONIO

More or less.

gronostaj wrote:
actually i made a conclusion jump, sorry. he is chilling around His Amused Lordship and Detective, but both of them are strongly associated with the dilmun club storyline and seekers of the garden in general.

"You recognise faces of note: Feducci the duellist is here, and a certain Implacable Detective. The Detective is reading from a note-book: she describes the unnatural longevity and vitality of people from a land across the Unterzee. She almost mentions the name of the place, but is silenced by a sharp cough from Feducci."

That's pretty close to hanging out with the Dilmun Club.

Could I have some context and possibly a link? Please? ^_^

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gronostaj
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8/17/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's more the Shuttered Palace that is stopping him? Feducci promised to redistribute ranks and titles, he is angry at the bureaucracy (i.e., people like the Wry Functionary) ,and there are rumors that he's out to get the Royal family. Furthermore, the middle class and morally outraged protesters are being quietly supported by aristocratic Society and the center of Society is...the Shuttered Palace.


yeah, but does their support matter at all in the long run? Aristocracy is obviously being lazy and decadent, and won't deign to actually protest or do anything productive with their lives at all. Their support is about as sincere as their charity balls, and they're hardly a united opposition font. More like giving off a short "well, i say, thats scandalous" over their cigars and brandy when one of their ilk loses their wealth to some commoner, and fearing they might be next.

It's the masters who decide which direction the city will go. I find it rather optimistic to think they're not nudging not only the economy, but also the politics, in their preferred direction. if they allowed feducci to run for the office, they obviously thought they can handle him, and it would appear they are handling him.

Anne Auclaire wrote:
Could I have some context and possibly a link? Please? ^_^

here's your link to the entire snippet, and here's a corresponding wiki entry

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Anne Auclair
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8/17/2017
gronostaj wrote:
yeah, but does their support matter at all in the long run? Aristocracy is obviously being lazy and decadent, and won't deign to actually protest or do anything productive with their lives at all.

They are the government of London and the Empress is the city's formal sovereign. Also, titles and estates are traditionally the Empress's purview. So the Shuttered Palace has the power and the motivation to block him. Furthermore, participating in protests earns Society favor and Society favor is valuable, so they are putting real effort and resources into opposing the Mayor.

gronostaj wrote:
Their support is about as sincere as their charity balls, and they're hardly a united opposition font. More like giving off a short "well, i say, thats scandalous" over their cigars and brandy when one of their ilk loses their wealth to some commoner, and fearing they might be next.

Seeing how the Mayor's agenda has been pretty much stillborn, the only people who have lost money are the people who have ventured into the Mayor's improvised casino and wagered at roulette. The fortunes and status of the aristocracy remain essentially untouched.


gronostaj wrote:
It's the masters who decide which direction the city will go. I find it rather optimistic to think they're not nudging not only the economy, but also the politics, in their preferred direction. if they allowed feducci to run for the office, they obviously thought they can handle him, and it would appear they are handling him.

There isn't the least bit evidence that the Masters are at all bothered by Feducci, who was the most Master friendly candidate in the election (fewer restrictions on Mr. Spices and Mr. Wines operations!). Nor does Feducci himself seem at all bothered by the Masters; there are rumors of him plotting against the Royal family, not the Bazaar.

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gronostaj
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8/18/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
They are the government of London and the Empress is the city's formal sovereign.

more like a purely-representative sovereign. what has the aristocracy done lately that has had any impact whatsoever? even the empress' throne saw more illegal threesomes than actual ruling.


Anne Auclair wrote:
Furthermore, participating in protests earns Society favor and Society favor is valuable,

so it is indeed. Valuable to the point i've recently been protesting myself. They certainly can't be bothered enough to vet genuine protesters from people vying for cheap favours wink so, again, it seems to be done for the sake of appearances. Unlike in case of say, masters, betraying whom actually brands you with a turncoat quality.

Anne Auclair wrote:
the only people who have lost money are the people who have ventured into the Mayor's improvised casino and wagered at roulette. The fortunes and status of the aristocracy remain essentially untouched.

actually I do seem to faintly remember some lordling or duke (?) losing their title to a docker during the election? probably not an isolated incident.


Anne Auclair wrote:
there are rumors of him plotting against the Royal family, not the Bazaar.

and yet feducci hands out revolutionary favours. And hatred of the masters is what is quoted as being an universal thing that connects all revolutionaries. The masters can't possibly be happy about firebrands finding a refugee under feducci's bandaged wing.

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Anne Auclair
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9/1/2017
gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
They are the government of London and the Empress is the city's formal sovereign.

more like a purely-representative sovereign. what has the aristocracy done lately that has had any impact whatsoever?

The conquest of the Carnelian Coast? The construction of the Cumaean Canal? The possible confiscation of the Wind of Ages?

gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Furthermore, participating in protests earns Society favor and Society favor is valuable,

so it is indeed. Valuable to the point i've recently been protesting myself. They certainly can't be bothered enough to vet genuine protesters from people vying for cheap favours wink so, again, it seems to be done for the sake of appearances. Unlike in case of say, masters, betraying whom actually brands you with a turncoat quality.

Still, they are putting their prestige and resources behind the protests.

gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
the only people who have lost money are the people who have ventured into the Mayor's improvised casino and wagered at roulette. The fortunes and status of the aristocracy remain essentially untouched.

actually I do seem to faintly remember some lordling or duke (?) losing their title to a docker during the election? probably not an isolated incident.

They lost a title, which may have amounted to little more than a ceremonial cloak. On Mutton Island a lady complained she lost the Barony of the Prickfinger Wastes to a butler at cards. The Prickfinger Wastes are literally worthless wastelands composed of nothing but extremely sharp rocks. This is a phantom of a class war - nothing meaningful is being accomplished by any of this (we know because Feducci is unhappy with how little he has accomplished). Some Society gambling addicts are voluntarily wagering ultimately meaningless titles in games of chance and complaining when they lose.

gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
there are rumors of him plotting against the Royal family, not the Bazaar.

and yet feducci hands out revolutionary favours. And hatred of the masters is what is quoted as being an universal thing that connects all revolutionaries. The masters can't possibly be happy about firebrands finding a refugee under feducci's bandaged wing.

Oh, I think the Masters are extremely happy with Feducci redirecting Revolutionary adherents and energy away from undermining the Masters in favor of annoying and violently pranking London's decadent aristocracy. It makes their lives and schemes so much easier.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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9/15/2017
I had completely forgotten this, but if you dispatch a Snuffer for Mr Inch, you get a little hint about Feducci:

[spoiler]Mr Inch congratulates you and presents a chest of red gold coins. These are somewhat familiar – is the client in question Feducci?[/spoiler]

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Anne Auclair
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9/22/2017
So at the end of his term Feducci is going to have some sort of last hurrah or whatever, just as Mayor Jenny had one last Mayoral Ball. Given Feducci's whole term has revolved around violence and gambling, there will doubtlessly be plenty of that. Also presumably lots of liquor and honey, because why not?

Does anyone else expect to see their Aunt among the guests? :P

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Catherine Raymond
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9/23/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
So at the end of his term Feducci is going to have some sort of last hurrah or whatever, just as Mayor Jenny had one last Mayoral Ball. Given Feducci's whole term has revolved around violence and gambling, there will doubtlessly be plenty of that. Also presumably lots of liquor and honey, because why not?

Does anyone else expect to see their Aunt among the guests? :P



I expect to see *everyone's* Aunt among the guests. They are, after all, that sort of Aunt.

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Anne Auclair
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9/23/2017
And what sort of Aunt is that? :P

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Anne Auclair
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7/4/2018
gronostaj wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
This is a...rather stark change from Sinning Jenny's administration.

I wonder if the next mayor of london will live in the big casino feducci turned the blythenhale into, or spend money and time to refurbish, or pick a new mayoral residence. That is, if blythenhale is still standing by the end of feducci's term. that is, if London is still standing by the end of feducci's term. (innit this awesome? my player character might be slightly salty, but as a player i'm delighted)

lol, oh gronostaj...

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