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Corran
Corran
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7/14/2017
For more balance / as a fun experiment they could introduce three completely new characters right now and make sure both new and old players have interactions with them through the year. The elections could then give us some interesting statistics (even more so if they send round an inquisitive urchin afterwards to gather some data on why people 'voted' as they did).

This would be a lot more work for Failbetter though, so for this and other reasons I don't see it happening.

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Azothi
Azothi
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7/14/2017
I love the idea of a Mr. Slowcake candidate, even if I probably wouldn't vote for them.

Since it hasn't been said already, I think the Whiskered Admiral could make for an interesting candidate. Having retired to a life of luxury after a politically unfortunate defeat, he returns at the prodding of one Dark-Spectacled Admiral (who has been barred by the Empress from running), running a platform of restoring the might of London and her navy.

His campaign would be quite interesting, to say the least. He is rather unqualified for the position, with little of note in his resume (considering how he had a military career of little note and nowadays just hangs around society parties), and he appears prone to anger, enough to die from the frustration of arguing against the Jovial Contrarian. Such a character is unlikely to succeed alone in politics, but this can be balanced by placing highly competent advisors with him. He could have a staff of palace functionaries, heavily supported by the Dark-Spectacled Admiral.

Furthermore, he wouldn't win the support of any group wholeheartedly. Dockers might support his plans for strengthening London's navy, but captains would realize that their freelance (perhaps even criminal) activities could be endangered by this plan. Wily captains might support the idea with the intent of using the navy for protection, while dissidents would argue that the improvement of the navy is too ambitious a project for the one-year mayorship. His acquaintances in Society may seek to call upon old favors and connections to advance, but many too would be opposed to his personality. Criminals could support him with the plan of scamming the government with bad contracts.

The second-week twist is set up rather nicely as well. The Voracious Diplomat and the New Sequence try to influence the Whiskered Admiral through agents in his campaign staff, with the Dark-Spectacled Admiral and the Admiralty trying to hold onto their candidate. With Sunless Skies out, it could be interesting to have a throwback to the conflicts of Sunless Sea.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
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7/14/2017
An Admiralty candidate could definitely provide opportunities for more Dawn Machine content, yes...

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Sir Joseph Marlen
Sir Joseph Marlen
Posts: 575

7/14/2017
Azothi wrote:
Since it hasn't been said already, I think the Whiskered Admiral could make for an interesting candidate. Having retired to a life of luxury after a politically unfortunate defeat, he returns at the prodding of one Dark-Spectacled Admiral (who has been barred by the Empress from running), running a platform of restoring the might of London and her navy.

I was going to suggest the Dark-Spectacled Admiral run instead, but I think having him run as the Admiral's support would leave the Admiral as a connection to players of FL while he brings in the interest of Sunless Sea players and gives them an insight to the Admiral's values. Though, I think his social role is underplayed; an emotional leader of London's forces in a time where the country's power seems to wane, all the while keeping an active presence in society, would certainly be a draw for many NPC Londoners if not players as well. I could see him being supported by the Dockers for obvious reasons and Society since his candidacy could be seen as a remembrance of London's prior glory. His platform, heavily influenced by the Dark-Spectacled Admiral, could run along the lines of improving the city's power (especially via the Navy), reinforcing their hold over London and its territories, and taking on "both foreign and domestic risks to the Crown" which would be a not-so subtle attack on the Dawn Machine.

Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
The Kind-Hearted Widow: Her platform would have many of the planks Jenny and the DTC adopted.

Anne Auclair wrote:
It would certainly be interesting seeing such a thoroughly kind and gentle person get involved in London politics. But...am I the only one worried for her if she did? upset The poor woman felt incredible guilt when one of her lodgers left without saying anything and we know this because she thought it worthy of a Hallowmas confession...


Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
And yet she has a K&C connection ... I would be interested in seeing this apparent contradiction explored as part of her candidacy.

A modest yet covertly influential supporter of the downtrodden with familiarity to the player while not being too relevant as to ensure her the win? An interesting candidate indeed. Though I wonder who her support would be and what her policies would involve that would separate her from the altruism of Jenny and the Campaigner. Maybe a push for furthering support of benefits to the impoverished or a connection to Mr Irons and other relations in K&C?
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Jermaine Vendredi
Jermaine Vendredi
Posts: 588

7/14/2017
Jasper. For a real gangster.

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
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7/14/2017
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:

Anne Auclair wrote:
I suspect that children can't actually be mayor, for a lot of reasons.


This may very well be true. Although recent events suggest mayoral qualifications are exceptionally lax ...

And how!

But, even in Fallen London, children are still children...

Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
It would certainly be interesting seeing such a thoroughly kind and gentle person get involved in London politics. But...am I the only one worried for her if she did? upset The poor woman felt incredible guilt when one of her lodgers left without saying anything and we know this because she thought it worthy of a Hallowmas confession...


And yet she has a K&C connection ... I would be interested in seeing this apparent contradiction explored as part of her candidacy.


She has what now?!

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gronostaj
gronostaj
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7/14/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
She has what now?!

I know, right? Who in this godforsaken underground city doesn't do murders for sport. That cute soft-hearted lady who lets me sleep in her spare bedroom for free after my lodgings were Eaten? She looks innocent, right? Wrong! she's a K&C messanger. It's been a while since my last K&C, but I believe her card used to give an opening?

edit: speaking of which, anyone knows when new K&C season starts? i feel like feducci's mayoral term is a perfect moment for stabby lunatics to run the streets again. Or really, introducing villein or soft-hearted widow as new candidate with the platform of bringing K&C back. I'd vote for them wink
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JimmyTMalice
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7/14/2017
gronostaj wrote:
speaking of which, anyone knows when new K&C season starts?


It's currently postponed indefinitely, because the app ruins everything.

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gronostaj
gronostaj
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7/14/2017
JimmyTMalice wrote:
gronostaj wrote:
speaking of which, anyone knows when new K&C season starts?


It's currently postponed indefinitely, because the app ruins everything.

...., well (heh), now I'm truly conflicted. I actually use that godforsaken app on regular, probably more often than the browser version even, so I can't really wish it burned and its remains salted............- but knife & candle is not to be postponed indefinitely.

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Lady Sapho Byron
Lady Sapho Byron
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7/14/2017
gronostaj wrote:
It's been a while since my last K&C, but I believe her card used to give an opening?


Quite so, she carried messages for the game ... indicating a target was available, if I recall correctly. There was an option to meet her eyes and make the sign. Here's the text when you did:

[spoiler]A smile ... but a trace of sorrow. Does she disapprove of this brutal, lovely game? Why then does she carry messages?[/spoiler]

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Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751

7/14/2017
Moon League aside, I could never pick it over donating to her.

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gronostaj
gronostaj
Posts: 403

7/14/2017
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
gronostaj wrote:
It's been a while since my last K&C, but I believe her card used to give an opening?


Quite so, she carried messages for the game ... indicating a target was available, if I recall correctly. There was an option to meet her eyes and make the sign. Here's the text when you did:

[spoiler]A smile ... but a trace of sorrow. Does she disapprove of this brutal, lovely game? Why then does she carry messages?[/spoiler]

Why, indeed. I'd be delighted to find out, and how interesting her platfrom could be, too- at one hand, picking up where DTC left off, at the other hand, undoubtedly making life easier for all sorts of shady types. Could either be played as "please everyone" or conflicting motives. Such potential. And she doesn't seem like the type to smack you upside head with a shoe, if you fell drunkenly into her lap. Always a plus wink


And what happend to her husband, anyway? She is a widow, innit she.

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Estelle Knoht
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7/14/2017
Her husband's fate is explained as part of the Season of Wreck's conclusion - no wriggling room.

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gronostaj
gronostaj
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7/14/2017
Estelle Knoht wrote:
Her husband's fate is explained as part of the Season of Wreck's conclusion - no wriggling room.

right, I forgot there's a non-FTP world where people get to actually know the answers to interesting questions wink but the rest of my point still stands. Also, still thinking about the Manager for mayor. He has managed a madhouse for years and years. And what is London, if not a particularly big madhouse? 'Sides, (Heart's Desire spoiler)
[spoiler]the Manager already knows a thing or two about ruling over a city. He's what we haven't had here yet- an actual experienced politician.[/spoiler]

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Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
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7/14/2017
He was around as the Contrarian's first Campaign Manager before February out-fabulous-ed him. He is apparently not inclined to directly run.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/14/2017
[spoiler]I believe you mean he knows a thing or two about betraying a city.[/spoiler]

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gronostaj
gronostaj
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7/14/2017
Estelle Knoht wrote:
He was around as the Contrarian's first Campaign Manager before February out-fabulous-ed him. He is apparently not inclined to directly run.

well then....- here's to hoping he will change his mind, I suppose? *laughs*


Isaac Zienfried wrote:

[spoiler]I believe you mean he knows a thing or two about betraying a city.[/spoiler]

it was totally worth it though
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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
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7/14/2017
gronostaj wrote:
it was totally worth it though

[spoiler]You think ol' Hundreds agrees with that assessment, though?[/spoiler]

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gronostaj
gronostaj
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7/14/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
gronostaj wrote:
it was totally worth it though

[spoiler]You think ol' Hundreds agrees with that assessment, though?[/spoiler]


[spoiler]Who's asking him? Still, he probably agrees slightly more than the cantigaster. That's love for you. always look to it.[/spoiler]

What the hell. I mean, probably ancient news for everyone, but anyone knows why did the spoiler mark not click?
edited by gronostaj on 7/14/2017

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lady ciel
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7/14/2017
Only one spoiler allowed per post.

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