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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

6/27/2017
"I didn't compromise though. I do have that. If this is what the people want, well. We keep fighting. I hope you'll still march with your fellow Londoners, and fight for what's right."

The thread, as well as the document, will be kept existent until at least next year's mayoral election.
The document has been reworked and now only holds the election-related snippets, if you want to read them see the link below.

The Dauntless Temperance Campaign's official document
edited by Infinity Simulacrum on 7/10/2017

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babelfishwars
babelfishwars
Administrator
Posts: 1152

7/7/2017
Both moderators have had reason to ask people to post more politely of late. Fallen London's forum is not like most other game forums - for the vast majority of time, even when in complete disagreement, our players manage to remain civil. I'm not just including 'not directly insulting or swearing' - I mean that our community avoids patronising and baiting each other. It's perfectly possible to use an incredibly polite set of words to be offensive or baiting. For the majority of the time, our community rises above this.

Of late, a lot of work has been created for the moderators. Please, *all* of you, do better. And if you must stop roleplaying to do so, stop. I'm not going to PM individual warnings. But drop your vendettas now, give people the benefit of the doubt, and (if you have an issue with a post) report it to moderators rather than responding directly. Otherwise I will have to dedicate time away from content to the forums. No one will enjoy this.

edited by babelfishwars on 7/7/2017

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
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7/9/2017
The Campaign grows! In these last few days, friends, it's easy to become disheartened. I struggle with doubt, wondering if all our work will be for naught, if the shocking revelations of gross mismanagement on the parts of our opponents or the tireless endeavors of our compatriots failed to shock enough people out of their first, stubborn choice of an "interesting" candidate. Did the Rubbery and Clay sympathies win us enough favor? Has our lady's valor and strength even when others counted her out been enough to convince people she is the best choice for London?

Fear not, friends. We've seen an unprecedented amount of late recruits and changed minds in this election, and most of them have come to our campaign. I cannot guarantee our victory, as I'm no Madam Shoshana, but I can say this: it will be close. We have taken a startling disadvantage at the halfway point and fought with it, and even as Feducci's supporters crow and prematurely celebrate, we have tirelessly worked to snatch that assumption away from them.

Know this: even if we do not win this election, I am proud to have served alongside you fine folk. I do, however, think our chances are good, far better than any others would have given us but a few short days ago. I'll admit I went into this battle thinking it would be a repeat of last year, a hopeless contest against a foe whose support was unwavering and unassailable, that I'd at least go out fighting instead of picking the obvious winner. But now, there is no obvious winner!

The Feducci campaign said they were going to waltz through this election, and we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible... and that makes us mighty.

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Sara Hysaro
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7/7/2017
Okay guys, settle down.

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Teaspoon
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7/11/2017
Well.

He is used to that, you know.

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A Dimness
A Dimness
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7/11/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Complaining that other people found something more interesting than you did doesn't really accomplish anything.

IT'S CATHARTIC. Or something. I dunno.

At least I'm not demanding everyone one of his supporters get punished for it.

IN POLYTHREME THE BED I SLEPT ON WAS A SLAVE. THE ROOM WHERE I SLEPT WAS HACKED FROM SCREAMING STONE. THE WATER I DRANK BEGGED ME TO STOP. THEY PAID ME IN COIN THAT PLOTTED MY DOWNFALL. THE MEMORIES ARE TROUBLING. THIS PLACE IS BETTER.

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Diptych
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7/7/2017
You naughty children wouldn't stop fighting and now there's no Honey-Well for anyone.

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Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751

7/7/2017
He's just telling you to calm down. The thread isn't locked, only a bunch of incendiary posts removed.

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Seon
Seon
Posts: 29

7/6/2017
Dudebro Pyro wrote:

What if don't necessarily support the entirety of her campaign but support the temperance planks? Am I a Moist Supporter?



That's called being a teetotal supporter, my friend. Or in this case, teatotal supporter.

I'll show myself out.
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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Take heart, fearless campaigners of the cause. Our trials are at their end. No matter this outcome, know this: you have all acquitted yourselves splendidly. No matter what has happened, never let anyone tell you that our cause was a failure. Our fight was good, our fight was glorious, and these days will be remembered fondly by those of us who had the pleasure to be a part of this.

In the last stretch of the election, I was told to be wary of speaking as though we'd already lost. I want to tell you that by no means did I think that, nor do I think it now. I do not feel defeated, and neither should you. Others will tell you we should. They will crow, they will gloat, they will regard you with a smug grin and a sneer. Let them. If London is to be ruled by the strong, then we've already proven ourselves its masters.

In the end, the Mayor is but one person. We, the people of London, are the ones who will truly change it, and with fine people like you in this city, I still maintain some hope for the future. No matter how dark this unending night, we'll shine brighter than the Mountain of Light.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to duel some Feducci supporters and teach them a little thing called "regret."

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Jolanda Swan
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6/27/2017
I brought cookies.
Now let us work.

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Seon
Seon
Posts: 29

7/4/2017
My allegiance to the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner have been cemented by the revelation of the last flash lay. She's not only the only one of the three that gives a damn about the clay men, but also have clearly rejected the Revolutionaries.

I have placed down my name in the document and can count on my support to the bitter end. We may be able to bring meaningful changes to this city yet--in our own terms, not forced by the Council.
edited by Seon on 7/4/2017
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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/4/2017
My dearest Auclair, I will accept that tea cosy now if you're still offering wink I have officially shifted my support to the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner with all of my election resources in tact. I am a rather influential individual.

(OOC: I switched to the DTC with fate, and I am still a fixer if anybody wants to add me to any such lists)

Edit: Formatting issues, as always
edited by LillianAranach on 7/4/2017

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Indigo Clardmond
Indigo Clardmond
Posts: 60

7/10/2017
I'd just like to apologise myself for not being very active in the community insofar as the forums and HQ and any other rp that might've been going on around this, as I was very much dedicated to it. Classes unfortunately dictated my time over the past couple weeks was precious and limited.

I discovered and joined Fallen London right at the end of last year's Election. I didn't participate as I was so confused as to what was going on in general and thought I'd do more harm than good by backing someone on a whim (if you're curious, I was partial to the Contrarian. Even now, knowing what I do, I think I still would be. He is perhaps the one and only one of them I can truly sympathise with. Though I am glad about Jenny and her efforts too). Being a part of this year's Election really meant a lot to me and my only regret was that I couldn't involve myself more deeply in interacting with each of you. Thank you to all who indulged me during donation exchanges and debates.

I just enjoyed my pot of Ceylon. Come what may in the results today, I hope we shall all continue to enjoy our tea and work towards a Kinder London.

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Vazio Solus - A broken, bitter Correspondent with a sick relationship to the Truth. Defiant to all, even in the end, as the Gate was opened.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
MY RUMINATING HAS AN UPVOTE. THAT SETTLES IT.

SHATTERING FORCE TIME. I BLAME FEDUCCI.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Oh, I never said I'd stop fighting. If anything, I've now devoted myself to it, abandoning any pretense of being a man of civility and learning.

That means now I can do it effectively while drunk!

I can now take on protegés in the art of hitting things. Hitting them with fists, hitting them with canes, hitting them with swords, hitting them with bullets, hitting them with a shoe...

I learned that last one from the Campaigner!
edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/10/2017

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AnyBellaCoolHusky
AnyBellaCoolHusky
Posts: 11

7/8/2017
I humbly implore you to look and check before you stuff a leaflet into the letterbox of someone you do not need to persuade, my dear tenacious advocate.

Leaflet torn ✓

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Sinnouk
Sinnouk
Posts: 62

7/8/2017
Planned to leave A Reputation for Fixing Things at 77 since election's nearing its end. But alas,

sent too many fixing offers.

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gronostaj wrote:
If the Implacable Detective Wins…

I go to jail! And you go to jail! And you go to jail, yes, you too! Everyone goes to jail!
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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/9/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:

LillianAranach also paid fate to switch to the Campaigner. They're a cool roleplayer, you should get to know them.


How sweet of you to say. Thank you ^~^

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/9/2017
I've been known to say that if the Campaigner wins, it will be Anne's doing. While I do not rescind this, I'd like to give Feducci himself a commendation for being the second-most fervent campaigner for our cause.

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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annalibertas
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Posts: 161

7/9/2017
Last set of coins have been received, hat's off to y'alls teamwork

Paying to switch in fate in deference to the impressive size of the bribe, proof will be echoed

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Sara Hysaro wrote:
February started taking over his campaign, and he started funnelling election funds to the other candidates. This development only strengthened my support of him, as I became incredibly interested in seeing just how he would react to being elected mayor even after all that self-sabotage and pressure.

To be fair, he might have started funneling funds even without February. I don't think he ever intended to win. Just to argue with everyone.

His slogan was "Master Yourself." It was both a jibe at the Masters, and in general an entreaty to become someone who can truly be his own master. That means not blindly following a Mayor.. or a Council.

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1784

7/10/2017
Ι will always vote for the good aligned candidate, it is that simple for me. There are plenty of Good Causes to be sure, but alleviating poverty always comes up as the more pressing need. As long as the candidate supporting the less fortunate is not a lorn fluke or Krampus himself, they get a vote.
Oh, and the church in Fallen London is not exactly the uptight institution of the Surface. Come to think of it, delve in history a bit and not even the surface church is as boring as we make it to be!

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Akernis
Akernis
Posts: 255

7/10/2017
Kukapetal wrote:
I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver [...snip...] ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card.



Jillius wrote:

I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

So, just to make sure I have this right. You want Failbetter to deliberately screw over almost half of their entire playerbase for voting in the way that made them enjoy the game?
... somehow, just somehow, I don't think that would go over very well.

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Arcanuse
Arcanuse
Posts: 89

7/10/2017
Could just keep dumping honey down the well, see what happens.

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Kukapetal
Kukapetal
Posts: 1449

7/10/2017
I'll clarify that I don't actually WANT FBG to implement a mechanic that "punishes" players for electing the "wrong" candidate. It was more a lament that, no matter how evil and harmful the writers went out of their way to make Feducci look, people still eagerly voted for him, and there will never be any consequences for that.

Everything about this guy suggests he'd be HORRIBLE for London, but because of mechanics that I agree are necessary, he's not going to actually BE horrible and will just sit there looking like a cool bad*ss on his opportunity card for a year.
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Hark DeGaul
Hark DeGaul
Posts: 208

7/10/2017
gronostaj wrote:
i see Feducci went from a foreman for POWs on a hellish trireme into full-blown slave trader in less than a week ;P


Not everyone on the trireme was a POW from London's war with Hell, some were captives in the more traditional sense. Five Minutes to Midday includes a rower who was simply a captured zailor and in the Regretful Soldier storyline there is also a Khaganian who implies he has been rowing since there was a Fourth City.

Slave trader is a loaded term, but Feducci chose the position of foreman on what was effectively a state-sanctioned pirate vessel and is complicit in kidnap and ransom as well as forced labour. Ultimately time and morality is different in Elder God Victorian London (London does have press-gangs too that perform a similar role of kidnapping people to row boats) but it's easy to see why people would put these pieces together and get "Feducci is a slaver literally working for devils."

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

7/11/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
it is kind of exasperating when FB goes "here's a character you already know a lot about... and here's a side character but whoops look at all this exposition about how awesome she is all of a sudden" and half the playerbase's reaction is "meh, she still looks like she votes Tory, so **** her gimme the awesome mummy-assassin dude."

You're being way too sour and snippy. We don't actually know all that much about Feducci. We know a lot about his London activities and current loyalties, but when it comes to his overall history I don't think we've scratched the surface yet. I mean, there's a lot of empty time between the events of his Hallowmas confession and his turning up in Hell, from where he made his way to London. So naturally a lot of people wanted to learn more about him. Let's not be sour and snippy, because we wanted to do the exact same thing with the Campaigner.

Complaining that other people found something more interesting than you did doesn't really accomplish anything.
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edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2017

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/11/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
Complaining that other people found something more interesting than you did doesn't really accomplish anything.

IT'S CATHARTIC. Or something. I dunno.

At least I'm not demanding everyone one of his supporters get punished for it.

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/11/2017
What's done is done. I find myself quite ambivalent about the whole thing. Ah well, at least we can all continue to progress individually whether towards benevolence or not. At least it will be an interesting term and with enough drugs still about to ignore the whole thing if desired. It was quite sublime assisting you all, and hopefully this is not our last meeting.

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/11/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
MY RUMINATING HAS AN UPVOTE. THAT SETTLES IT.

SHATTERING FORCE TIME. I BLAME FEDUCCI.


Please, just talk in all caps now - I love it <3

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Blaine Davidson
Blaine Davidson
Posts: 388

7/9/2017
annalibertas wrote:
Last set of coins have been received, hat's off to y'alls teamwork

Paying to switch in fate in deference to the impressive size of the bribe, proof will be echoed


Just received an offer from you to remove some scandal so that's proof enough for me.

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Andrea Serafini
Andrea Serafini
Posts: 169

7/9/2017
annalibertas wrote:


Paying to switch in fate in deference to the impressive size of the bribe, proof will be echoed



That's really generous of you. Thanks!

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/7/2017
Sometimes I quite feel as though I say too much all at once. Someone just invited me to a debate, said they were open to hearing about other candidates' causes and couldn't get a word in edgewise for quite a while. (OOC: I reached the character limit on the text box. I am such a horrible person o_o)

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dov
dov
Posts: 2580

7/7/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
Now shoo.

Seriously?

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Okay, okay. I agree that Feducci is terrible and a lot of people play terrible people as characters, but I caution against us getting too bitter. We need to appear graceful and valorous to the very end.

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Sara Hysaro
Sara Hysaro
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Posts: 4514

7/10/2017
That'd set an awful precedent for future elections, though. "Watch out guys, we gotta figure out who the correct choice is!" and all those fun stories that probably wouldn't end well just won't get a chance to shine. Not to mention the debating would become unbearably intense, resembling real life politics to the point that the election just wouldn't be fun.

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Sara Hysaro
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7/10/2017
Oh, the Contrarian. There's an argument to be made that the Bishop had a stronger potential story out the gate than the Jovial Contrarian did, which is the entire reason why I'm supporting the Detective over Feducci and the DTC, but the Jovial Contrarian was so much more engaging in his plight. No regrets in choosing him, even if we did lose in the end.

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/10/2017
I think I'm just ready for the whole thing to end. I grow weary of debate and have been wont to return to other matters. It was quite wonderful campaigning with all of you, a delightful way to mingle with individuals otherwise unknown.
edited by LillianAranach on 7/10/2017

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Arcanuse
Arcanuse
Posts: 89

7/4/2017
One more vote for the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.

It's time for this sleeper to awake, lest some other candidate wins the vote.

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Blaine Davidson
Blaine Davidson
Posts: 388

7/4/2017
Alright, you win. Damn you Auclair but your efforts in addition to the recent Feducci revelations have swayed me.

I'm jumping ship as soon as this debate has finished. The Campaigner may be wasteful but at least she isn't paranoid or aimless.

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Leonora Rothwood
Leonora Rothwood
Posts: 17

7/2/2017
Hello all! I'm one of those people who was really torn and trying to research all the candidates, and then one of Anne's letters tipped the balance. I'm a Campaigner without many social contacts, so I'm looking forward to adding my name to the document and jumping into donation trading. Writing Short Stories makes a lot of roleplaying sense, but it does get quite boring...

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suinicide
suinicide
Posts: 2409

7/3/2017
Just popping in quick to say chuffy McAvory-Dauntless was just confirmed to be her grandson smile

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Veeb
Veeb
Posts: 16

6/27/2017
Wicked223 wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:

Also, don't sneeze at writing the occasional letter to your contacts asking them to support the DTC. I've had a reasonable amount of success doing that.



Maybe one of the more literary supporters could write some campaign literature, for that purpose?


"Friend, I regret to inform you that London is in dire straits. Despite the promises of Sinning Jenny, the poor of the city remain oppressed by the wealthy and powerful. They are subjugated by factory bosses who underpay them for their labor and by landlords who overcharge them for their rent; is it any wonder that these wretched conditions drive them to the easy escapes of drink and honey or the easy money of spirifage? In order to right London's wrongs we must dissolve this whole vicious system. It's Teatime for London: won't you join us at the table?"

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

6/28/2017
I just want to say that if the DTC wins, against all my expectations, we pretty much have InSim and Anne to thank for it.
edited by Isaac Zienfried on 6/28/2017

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But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

6/29/2017
One downside to Feducci's history is that a comprehensive profile requires three letters, so it's a tad action intensive. Still, I think it would be worthwhile to send this to every Feducci supporter we can.

EDIT: Removed the links and the Nemesis stuff, added SPOILER warnings.

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(1) THE TRUTH ABOUT FEDUCCI - SPOILER WARNINGS -

Feducci makes grand promises to bring about a fairer London, but his character and past actions cast grave doubts as to whether he actually believes what he says.

Feducci is a false-Tomb Colonist, an invincible immortal man wrapped in stolen bandages who feigns a limp and a cough. He presents himself in such a way so he can lure people into his private fighting club and slaughter them in a duel to the permanent death. Duels to the death where the reigning champion cannot possibly be harmed, let alone killed, are hardly fair by any definition of the word. And of course Feducci is not content the advantages granted by his invincibility, he also goes to his duels proudly astride a warhorse in order to face opponents who fight on foot.

Feducci has had so many of these dishonest duels and has slaughtered so many unsuspecting opponents that he goes into battle with his arms wrapped in black ribbons:

“If that were not bad enough, his arms are swathed in enough black ribbons to hide his bandages. There are dozens of them: how many of his own society has he killed?”

Each of those ribbons taken from a man or woman who Feducci permanently murdered in an unfair, thoroughly one-sided duel.

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(2) SPOILERS - When not permanently killing lesser mortals for sport, Feducci serves as the Presbyters Agent in London. Feducci’s clandestine activities are whispered about by former associates, talked about in the Flit, and smugly hinted at by the man himself. He is also regularly seen delivering reports and relics to Presbyter zailors. Feducci, in his capacity as the Presbyter’s Agent, regularly commissions the murder of London citizens, particularly those whose existence is condemned by Holy Presbyterate Law.

As the recent election campaign has established, Feducci is being paid by the Presbyter for these services. These payments are laundered through under-zee commercial transactions. How this works: Feducci invests in a speculative venture that a London company is hoping to make with the government controlled Licensed Exchange at Adam’s Way. The Presbyterate government then agrees to and insures that this venture is profitable. There was never any possibility of Feducci losing his "investment."

OOC: For a version with links, see this post here: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24493-the-truth-about-feducci.aspx

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(3) SPOILERS - Just as he has clothed himself in an aura of unearned courage, fighting duels that cannot possibly hurt him, Feducci has cultivated a reputation as a winner by repeatedly gambling with loaded dice. And yet this man promises to even the odds in London?

The Presbyter is getting something for all this money – that is obvious. If Feducci becomes Mayor he will be indebted for his success to an unfriendly foreign power that lays claim to territories held by London!

Lastly, Feducci has a terrible record when it comes to the people who put their trust in him. We’ve already documented how he treats his fellow duelists in the Black Ribbon – as pawns and disposable amusements! But this goes back a long way. When he still resided on the Elder Continent, Feducci went on a pilgrimage to the brambled city of Arbour:

“Feducci was a celebrated figure, attended by lovers, well-wishers and flatterers. Many begged to accompany him, and a company of seventy-seven embarked with pennants, wine, and song.

…One by one, Feducci's companions fell, but he refused to turn back. When he reached the rosebrick gate, he was alone.”

So ask yourself, would a false gambler like Feducci wager on the odds he has given you – that electing a cheater and schemer would somehow make London a fairer place? We both know the answer to that.
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6/30/2017
Kiffy want ye to know Kiffy agitatin hard as Kiffy may. Crool gits scandaralizin Kiffy so much, yet Kiffy hardly never tetch the goats no more.

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Shiner Jane
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7/2/2017
I really need a caricature of Feducci wrapped in Fettuccine noodles instead of bandages. Maybe something with an owl being constricted by a giant Snake in a verdant Parabolan landscape?

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a Nice Friend
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6/27/2017
It is worth mentioning that Notability does contribute to your vote, so you can also help the campaign by hosting tea parties in your lodgings.

Actual literal tea-time for London.

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annalibertas
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7/6/2017
Teaspoon wrote:
annalibertas wrote:
I'd like to register my disappointment that noting my alt is a down on their luck rat catcher didn't result in an immediate bribe when everyone's been complaining about corruption in the Dauntless staff

(joking) ((mostly))


When did you mention this? I've not seen it on the forum.

(Always room for one more. How would your alt like some coinage?)


I dont think it's come up in the forums yet, my main keeps getting political messages so I started responding w/essentially Anna Libertas is a drunk and not interested in Temperance, try Julliah Randolph who is Very Poor

And Sir Joseph Marlen beat you to it


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SeveredJoke
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7/4/2017
LillianAranach wrote:
TeslaWalker wrote:
Anyone else seen the latest Feducci info from the flash lay? Worth all the actions.


I have, indeed. It and the Regretful Soldier's storyline, which I recently completed, were partially why I changed my allegiances. I enjoy the company of my infernal contacts quite a bit, but I've seen what the soldier's been through and what it drove him to. I wish I knew more about why Feducci is at the helm of that trireme. Regardless, if Feducci has earned the Soldier's ire and condemnation, he has earned mine as well.


The Regretful Soldiers tale was so moving it made me pay out for the soul trade just to help him out!

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Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
In the end, perhaps the Contrarian would be lost as mayor. He's best being off to the side, arguing with whatever voice is currently loudest so they never get complacent. A toast to the good man, a better man than most.

...Also, yes, the Bishop trying to wage war on Hell again would've been pretty great.

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Estelle Knoht
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7/10/2017
It's not that bad. I am sure none of you can say you regret it :P

In the mean time, just look forward for whatever updates come next, and play with the Black Ribbons if you desire?

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Indigo Clardmond
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7/10/2017
I realize this may be of small comfort and a bit of a departure from the usual words of encouragement, optimism and hope I tend to try and instil in the spirit of others, but do consider this: it's only a year. The Mayor of London, whoever it ended up being, really has next to no real power and very little time to use it in. Poor Jenny barely managed to get just her Finishing School through, and the more mercenary Londoners are already finding ways to exploit it.

Thusly, whatever Feducci may or may not do in his term of office, remember we can also play that game. Exploiting and using his own policies and structures as a means for bringing about a kinder London, in honour of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner, for all those she wished to help and still does.

And don't forget, the Implacable Detective might have quite the bit of leverage to inhibit him as well, depending on her findings. Dire though these elections always seem to be, there is always hope for what is good and what is right to prosper and prevail.

That said, if he starts curtailing my tea, a reckoning will not be postponed at all~

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7/10/2017
As a funereal rite for this thread, and closing ceremony for the election I'd like to do a personal little giveaway.
So the first person to hit me with a calling card or Coffee at Caligula's,
will get my Parabolan Kitten as well as an invitation to share in a bottle of First Sporing,
The next five people will each get a pile of First City Coins,
and the next eleven people get to share a bottle of Black Wings Absinthe with me.

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EDIT: The kitten was won by Arcanuse, apologies but it's gone now :/
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7/10/2017
I suppose it shouldn't come as a surprise that, in a game that lavishly rewards evil behavior, a candidate who is blatantly evil would be elected. Heck, if there were a storylet that allowed the player to go work aboard Hell's slave ships as the "Whipmaster," most players would play it. So I guess it's not surprising that that nasty reveal about Fedducci didn't really sway that many people :P
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7/10/2017
...You know, with all my forum talk of dueling and being a fighter, I really should just suck it up and go Shattering Force. Paramount Presence will never be a thing. ;_;

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Squarry
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7/10/2017
Ah, this is all dreadfully sad, but to be honest - to be expected.

Fedduci captured images of many as a dashing rogue and a person to shake up the system - some did not realized he was neither of those, and some who realized stuck with him either because it was still a good idea in their heads to instate slave-driver and spy as a mayor, and others did that out of habit.
My fellow fighters. campaigners. I implore you not to despair, there is no need to drown it all in wine. We must take defeat as did our candidate, and keep standing for what is right. Yes, we've indeed lost here, but path of the righteous is never straight or an easy one. We'll keep fighting, on other battlefields, and one day we will prevail. Good day to you.
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7/9/2017
I have that many coins.

Done.

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Anne Auclair
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7/7/2017
Estelle Knoht wrote:
He's just telling you to calm down. The thread isn't locked, only a bunch of incendiary posts removed.

Actually a grand total of three words were removed.

Anyway, let's move on. Anyone have anything to report?

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Teaspoon
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7/9/2017
Hurrah for teamwork! Hurrah for the DTC!

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annalibertas
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7/9/2017
For the record I genuinely wasn't expecting anyone to take me up on this, Fallen London is wild, I will, of course, be honoring the bribe if I get enough coins before the election ends or will return them to their senders if it is not

Consider this message my official receipt of Teaspoon and Blaine's coins

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Anne Auclair
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7/9/2017
My character just convinced another person with full career and nearly full influence to switch sides from Feducci to the Campaigner (they chose to do it with fate on their own volition, I never ask for fate).

I feel good about tomorrow. Whatever the final result, we definitely moved the race in the direction we wanted.

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Isaac Zienfried
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7/11/2017
I'll need a great deal of tea to soothe my throat. Wait. I mean-

SOMEONE GET ME SOME BLOODY TEA; MY THROAT'S SORE.

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7/11/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
You know, there is absolutely reason for disappointment. It's the nature of the game that two out of three campaigns must lose. We had a great candidate who we all really enjoyed supporting (even when our characters were conflicted or agonizing in their support because they really liked wine & honey, lol). Before this election the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner was a semi-antagonistic background character with an interesting cameo in Sunless Sea's Roser Wharf. Now she's a fully fleshed-out member of Fallen London's main cast, with her own portrait, her own goals and idiosyncrasies, her own past, and her own family. The election went perfectly for her in this respect, providing a promising and suitably political minor character with the stage and spotlight necessary for a wonderful breakout performance. And I for one enjoyed every moment of it, whether it was championing almost every worthy cause London has, absentmindedly tossing honey down a well, telling the anarchists to shut up, or meeting Chuffy again.

That's kind of how I see it. I'm trying not to be bitter or salty too openly (we have enough people doing that). but it is kind of exasperating when FB goes "here's a character you already know a lot about... and here's a side character but whoops look at all this exposition about how awesome she is all of a sudden" and half the playerbase's reaction is "meh, she still looks like she votes Tory, so **** her gimme the awesome mummy-assassin dude." It's really easy to become disenfranchised over that.

...But, eh, you know what? I got the feeling someone at FB enjoyed writing her. And I also get the feeling they won't stop. So I guess I can live with this.

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7/11/2017
LillianAranach wrote:
Isaac Zienfried wrote:

EDIT: I see our Lillian is taking on the Rubbery Murders in Veilgarden right now. I happened to stop by there to pick up some amber.
edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/11/2017



Indeed, the case with the least evidence ever. How am I even meant to convict anyone, let alone the right one with this vague nonsense?

Ask the Fingerkings. What could go wrong?

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Anne Auclair
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7/10/2017
I really like a lot of green and mint teas. I'm something of an Oriental tea enthusiast.

You know, there is absolutely reason for disappointment. It's the nature of the game that two out of three campaigns must lose. We had a great candidate who we all really enjoyed supporting (even when our characters were conflicted or agonizing in their support because they really liked wine & honey, lol). Before this election the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner was a semi-antagonistic background character with an interesting cameo in Sunless Sea's Roser Wharf. Now she's a fully fleshed-out member of Fallen London's main cast, with her own portrait, her own goals and idiosyncrasies, her own past, and her own family. The election went perfectly for her in this respect, providing a promising and suitably political minor character with the stage and spotlight necessary for a wonderful breakout performance. And I for one enjoyed every moment of it, whether it was championing almost every worthy cause London has, absentmindedly tossing honey down a well, telling the anarchists to shut up, or meeting Chuffy again.

The Campaigner's post-election appearance was also really well done, very dignified and even a little funny (the Campaigner's version of drowning her sorrows being a cup of tea with extra sugar). And I really liked the implication that we'll all be seeing more of her shortly, once Feducci's reign of misrule gets underway:

The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner wrote:
"Not quite what we hoped, was it? I didn't compromise though. I do have that. If this is what the people want, well. We keep fighting. I hope you'll still march with your fellow Londoners, and fight for what's right."

More fighting and protest marches to come, hmmmm. I hope this means she'll be the opposition figure on Feducci's Mayoral Influence Card, because she'd be the ideal foil for him.

Another thing to be happy about, although we didn't win the election, we did well enough that Feducci only won with a plurality. The winning candidate got under 50% of the vote and, consequently, half the assembled Londoners in Hastings Square violently jeered him. This was entirely due to our own efforts. Via forum debate, via letters, via RP, and via team work, we can be confident that we moved enough voters to our side to make the difference between Feducci getting a Sinning Jenny style majority and Feducci entering office a deeply divisive and distrusted figure. And that is something we should be very proud of.

Contrast these two beginnings:

Jenny's Victory wrote:
Jenny flashes a smile to rival the false stars. She begins the celebrations by flinging a sack's-worth of rose-petals over her new constituents.


Feducci's Victory wrote:
Feducci steps forward, offering the crowd a regal wave. Thundering roars of approval hail his victory, met equally by explosive jeers. Feducci stands above them all, laughing.

He might laugh now, but I think he'll be a bit less happy by the end of his term :P
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Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
That having morals is for dumb nerds, you dumb nerd.

...Please, no one take that post seriously. At all. Mostly because it's coming from the guy who just typed a rant about how he prefers to roleplay characters who are at least Chaotic Good. I actually prefer Neutral Good or even Lawful, but hey... kinda hard to do that in FL. CG is the best I can do.

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Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
Arcanuse wrote:
I suppose she's bright and charming enough.
What would her campaign be about though?

Bare feet. Bare feet for all the ladies of London.

...Y'know, maybe I should move this to the Pick-Up Lines thread.

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Estelle Knoht
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7/10/2017
Naked ankles for all of London!

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Lady Sapho Byron
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7/10/2017
So, about the well full of honey ...

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Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
Sara Hysaro wrote:
Oh, definitely. But I definitely had fun trying to make him win anyway.

Same. Mostly because I thought if he did, he'd finally be forced to do something of real impact rather than stick to challenging everyone and forcing them to think.

I can say that I often enjoy debating with him at parties, when not dancing with a certain shroom-hopper girl. OH! Now there's an idea for a mayoral candidate...

Jolanda Swan wrote:
Come to think of it, delve in history a bit and not even the surface church is as boring as we make it to be!

I agree, but that's a topic people can rarely discuss with cool heads. Personal prejudices and beliefs taint a more neutral historical view of things. I'm no exception to that, either.
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Sara Hysaro
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7/10/2017
Oh, definitely. But I definitely had fun trying to make him win anyway.

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Squarry
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7/10/2017
Jillius wrote:
Kukapetal wrote:
Yeah, you're right. Just bugs me that, out of the six candidates we've had in elections so far, 5 of them were very different but still okay people who I wouldn't have minded having as a mayor, even if I didn't vote for them. But the one candidate who's blatantly evil is the one who gets the overwhelming support.

I know this would never happen, because it's not fair to punish the people who supported the winning candidate, but I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver, and person who FORCES other to participate in bloodsports (remember that once you join the Black Ribbon Society, he won't let you leave it), who ran on the platform "what can I say that will get these idiots to vote for me" ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card. But of course that won't happen.

Very much this. I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

I think there will be a special Story like with Jenny, and some really dark stuff will probably be there

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Anne Auclair
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7/10/2017
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Akernis wrote:
Kukapetal wrote:
I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver [...snip...] ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card.



Jillius wrote:

I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

So, just to make sure I have this right. You want Failbetter to deliberately screw over almost half of their entire playerbase for voting in the way that made them enjoy the game?
... somehow, just somehow, I don't think that would go over very well.

Narrative =/= gameplay. I believe Jillius wants stories in which Feducci screws over London or somesuch, but that the players would still be able to get rewards and progression from.

I'm in favor of the elections having significant narrative consequences, good or bad. They are narrative events and if they don't have narrative consequences, then all the scandals and platforms are just window dressing, aren't they?

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A Dimness
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7/10/2017
Akernis wrote:
Kukapetal wrote:
I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver [...snip...] ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card.



Jillius wrote:

I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

So, just to make sure I have this right. You want Failbetter to deliberately screw over almost half of their entire playerbase for voting in the way that made them enjoy the game?
... somehow, just somehow, I don't think that would go over very well.

Narrative =/= gameplay. I believe Jillius wants stories in which Feducci screws over London or somesuch, but that the players would still be able to get rewards and progression from.

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Arcanuse
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7/10/2017
To my understanding, if we were to go down this route, Feducci should have plenty of high-risk high reward opportunities. Plenty of chances to make your fortune, or lose what you have.

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Isaac Zienfried
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7/10/2017
I get the bitterness, I do, but uh... yeah. I think Failbetter could've chosen a better lineup for the election (if this many forum players could look a the announced three and pick out the one who'd win without a doubt, I know for sure the writers can), and it's frustrating that opposing the one obvious favorite feels entirely futile, but them including "trap" candidates that screw over everyone if voted in is... not in their best interest.

Although many of y'all don't get to complain, because I'd bet my nonexistent title plenty of you voted Jenny. You come here with a track record of Contrarian and then Campaigner and I'll listen to stories of bitterness at the playerbase.

Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Narrative =/= gameplay. I believe Jillius wants stories in which Feducci screws over London or somesuch, but that the players would still be able to get rewards and progression from.

Why do I get the sense people think that will actually make his supporters feel regret? It won't. Their characters are often the kind of people who'd laugh as London burned around them.

I get that a little liberty from the rules of real society can be refreshing, but I feel like that character trope is too cliché for me at this point. So I chose a different cliché. C'est la vie.
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7/10/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:


Although many of y'all don't get to complain, because I'd bet my nonexistent title plenty of you voted Jenny. You come here with a track record of Contrarian and then Campaigner and I'll listen to stories of bitterness at the playerbase.

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I voted for Bishop, God bless him and our Empress!
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Arcanuse
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7/10/2017
A fellow bishop voter eh? Maybe we'll be able to take another crack at getting him in office in a few years.

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A Dimness
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7/10/2017
Sided with the Contrarian last year, watched his campaign burn to the ground from within in the course of two weeks.
That's my track-record.

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7/10/2017
...I thought we've established that uptight and moral doesn't work in London. Trying to elect a candidate from the Church, the epitome of moral uptightness, isn't gonna happen.

BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIGHT. THE BISHOP WOULD APPROVE.

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7/10/2017
Squarry wrote:
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Sided with the Contrarian last year, watched his campaign burn to the ground from within in the course of two weeks.
That's my track-record.

What happened there?



February started taking over his campaign, and he started funnelling election funds to the other candidates. This development only strengthened my support of him, as I became incredibly interested in seeing just how he would react to being elected mayor even after all that self-sabotage and pressure.
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edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/10/2017

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Jillius
Jillius
Posts: 36

7/10/2017
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Akernis wrote:
Kukapetal wrote:
I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver [...snip...] ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card.



Jillius wrote:

I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

So, just to make sure I have this right. You want Failbetter to deliberately screw over almost half of their entire playerbase for voting in the way that made them enjoy the game?
... somehow, just somehow, I don't think that would go over very well.

Narrative =/= gameplay. I believe Jillius wants stories in which Feducci screws over London or somesuch, but that the players would still be able to get rewards and progression from.
What Infinty said. You don't have to screw over the players to screw over the city. And in my eyes the latter has to happen, if future elections are to have any significance.
For example, Feducci is/was a spy and a slave trader, so why not introduce a story where he paves the way for him to establish a slave trade from underground London? And people have to either decide on whether to support it and have some minor new characters disappear as they do so, or work against it, in an attempt to get those people back?

Tell me you wouldn't sneak on a ship to the Elder Continent to save the Barbed Wit and I'll call you a liar. Tell me you wouldn't steer that ship to get rid of the Artist's Model and I'd at least be suspicious of your taste in women.
We'd get something out of it, sure, but London will suffer that year, and depending on how "well" Feducci can run the show, maybe for years to come.
And I'd love to see that.


But, to show the other side of the issue, let's say we get a lawful good mayor next year and he/she/it makes her platform to help the rubberies and stop the unending murders (I need a 100 amber, ok?). Story could be learning about the squishies, working for better living conditions and learning more about their live and being - or burn save houses, enslaving stragglers, you know, the usual thing Londoners do in their free time.

Regardless of whether a good or an evil character wins the election, I think it should be felt in the city.

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gronostaj
gronostaj
Posts: 403

7/10/2017
Jillius wrote:
For example, Feducci is/was a spy and a slave trader, so why not introduce a story where he paves the way for him to establish a slave trade from underground London?

i see Feducci went from a foreman for POWs on a hellish trireme into full-blown slave trader in less than a week ;P
edited by gronostaj on 7/10/2017

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xKiv
xKiv
Posts: 846

7/10/2017
Jillius wrote:
Tell me you wouldn't steer that ship to get rid of the Artist's Model and I'd at least be suspicious of your taste in women.


Can't you just tie her shoelaces toghether, or something?

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gronostaj
gronostaj
Posts: 403

7/10/2017
Hark DeGaul wrote:
Not everyone on the trireme was a POW from London's war with Hell, some were captives in the more traditional sense. Five Minutes to Midday includes a rower who was simply a captured zailor and in the Regretful Soldier storyline there is also a Khaganian who implies he has been rowing since there was a Fourth City.

oh, I didn't mean to argue with that. I just meant to say that his brief stunt as a foreman doesn't indicate he wants slavery to be a thing in London or at all. If he were passionate about slavery in general or his job as slave-driver, I rather think he would still be cracking whip at triremes, as opposing to returning to London and pretending to be a tomb-colonist. I don't know when and under which circumstances he resigned from his hellish job, but resign he obviously did, and I would gamble that as the revolution in Hell in which he took part, happened right after the Hell-London war, he slave-drove... driven?...... specifically the Londoners and resigned when they were paid off in and released. No proof for that beyond speculation, of course.

Still, he doesn't seem to miss the job. it's a very incriminating snippet from the past alright, I just don't think it necessarily points to any prediction of his future politics and behaviour.

edit: what's wrong with the Artist;s Model, anyway? wink
edited by gronostaj on 7/10/2017

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Kuka, I feel you, I do, but... that's the name of the game. If you want a setting and game where players actually encounter real, genuine consequences for being crooked or criminal or sociopathic, by all means give me a call if you need any editing work done. Though I'd also say there should be payoffs for being sneaky, too... just balanced by risk. Being a do-gooder should be harder, but potentially more rewarding. I'll include an example entirely unrelated in FL in spoiler tags so as to not clutter things up.

[spoiler]My RPG group recently ran a Chronicles of Amber game, and in that setting, scheming and plotting are the norm. And most of our characters took to it, as well. My character wasn't a completely straight arrow, but he was certainly the closest thing we had to a paladin: former military, code of honor, cared about civilians, etc. My girlfriend's character, however, was even more pure. She had a genuine distaste for plotting or skullduggery, and was as genuine and sweet as she appeared. Often, my character resorted to things he wouldn't be caught doing openly just to ensure this wasn't used against her. One of his plots actually led to another player's character, who was at the time believed to be the most threatening frenemy (this was not the case), dying in a fight because he'd attempted to use a secret weapon my character gave him... that turned out to be a complete fake. But anyways, at the very end of it, events unfolded in a way that made us very glad my girlfriend's character was honest and genuinely befriended people, because her earning allies instead of plotting to use everyone is what saved the day.[/spoiler]

Anyways, I was gonna say something else, but typing that story out made me forget. It'll come to me.

EDIT: Oh yeah! About why that isn't a thing in FL. Y'see, FB has to make a game with broad appeal. They're a business, still. They can't go driving away people, and part of the appeal of FL for many is "yeah, play a guy who steals souls and sells them to devils, or sacrifices an entire theater of people to otherworldly dream-snakes who use people like puppets." It's not your thing, and it's not my thing, and we can spend all day judging or wondering why it appeals to others. At the end of the day, it just does, and FB isn't to be blamed for catering to that experience. After all, they're not stopping us from playing it our way... even if the elections are a rather sharp reminder our way is unusual and weird.
edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/10/2017

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A Dimness
A Dimness
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7/10/2017
Fallen London usually makes the player pay for being actually a goody-goody, or it atleast denies you the better rewards when you choose to do the morally upright action.
I guess that in itself has a message, I'm just not sure what kind.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
...Actually, can we demand people wash up before taking a dip in the honey? You know, I've never understood how people expect to be good criminals while stinking to high heaven. Hard to be stealthy when everyone can catch a whiff of you across five city blocks.

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Hark DeGaul
Hark DeGaul
Posts: 208

7/10/2017
I suggest we make it a tourist attraction like the House of Chimes or the Bazaar.

"Come to London, the city with that pit full of honey!"

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
I say we charge people to lower 'em down into the well in a bucket until the honey's up to their noses.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/11/2017
Kukapetal wrote:
Isaac Zienfried wrote:


SOMEONE GET ME SOME BLOODY TEA; MY THROAT'S SORE.


Woah, you're like the Bizzaro version of Fleshy :P

The thought had occ-

THE THOUGHT HAD OCCURRED TO ME. I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.

EDIT: I see our Lillian is taking on the Rubbery Murders in Veilgarden right now. I happened to stop by there to pick up some amber.
edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/11/2017

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Kukapetal
Kukapetal
Posts: 1449

7/11/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:


SOMEONE GET ME SOME BLOODY TEA; MY THROAT'S SORE.


Woah, you're like the Bizzaro version of Fleshy :P
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Felicity Anne Stratford
Felicity Anne Stratford
Posts: 63

7/10/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
I've been known to say that if the Campaigner wins, it will be Anne's doing.


I started this election completely ambivalent about the candidates, but her words caused me to work harder for the DTC this week. I didn't much care for the mechanics of the election, but because of the posts on here (especially hers) I did really enjoy it! In a way I am sad that I care enough to be really disappointed if F. wins.

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Blaine Davidson
Blaine Davidson
Posts: 388

7/9/2017
Teaspoon wrote:
Correction: Anna wants 180 coins. I completely misread the thread. Whoops!

I've sent her sixty and don't have any more. Does anyone else have the final 120, or should I request a refund?
edited by Teaspoon on 7/9/2017


I have enough but I'd rather not give away everything. I'll match your 60.

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

7/7/2017
We're at the point where switching will almost certainly guarantee a below 20 election career, unless the switchers pay fate or have a huge election resource stockpile. So if Character X switches from Candidate A to Candidate B, this will hurt Candidate A more than it helps Candidate B. So recruitment is now largely about weakening the other side, as opposed to strengthening our own. Given the uncertainty about the state of the race and who is leading, we should focus all our efforts on recruiting Feducci supporters. The weaker Feducci is, the more likely it is that the Campaigner or the Detective will beat him.

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Blaine Davidson
Blaine Davidson
Posts: 388

7/9/2017
Teaspoon wrote:
I have that many coins.

Done.


Let us hope they uphold their end of the bargain.

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Charlotte_de_Witte
Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360

7/6/2017
Blimey! Seems I'm a wet rubbery friend :S

I guess... deep down I always knew...

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/4/2017
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. A pound of preparation is worth enough cure to fill a well. We'll put it next to the one with honey.

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A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/5/2017
I might be the only one having this problem, but the link to the Campaigner's google doc is broken. Luckily, I have a backup link in my history, but I just wanted to mention it in case it was a problem that needed to be fixed.

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Kukapetal
Kukapetal
Posts: 1449

7/10/2017
Yeah, you're right. Just bugs me that, out of the six candidates we've had in elections so far, 5 of them were very different but still okay people who I wouldn't have minded having as a mayor, even if I didn't vote for them. But the one candidate who's blatantly evil is the one who gets the overwhelming support.

I know this would never happen, because it's not fair to punish the people who supported the winning candidate, but I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver, and person who FORCES other to participate in bloodsports (remember that once you join the Black Ribbon Society, he won't let you leave it), who ran on the platform "what can I say that will get these idiots to vote for me" ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card. But of course that won't happen.
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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Kukapetal wrote:
I feel like the election of a foreign spy

Kukapetal wrote:
who ran on the platform "what can I say that will get these idiots to vote for me"

I'm just gonna leave these two snippets right next to each other, and say absolutely nothing more about them. At all.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1784

7/10/2017
So, I was not the only one seeing it. Good.

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Felicity Anne Stratford
Felicity Anne Stratford
Posts: 63

7/10/2017
Thanks to all of you for giving me things to read while I feel sad about the result!

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Jolanda Swan wrote:
So, I was not the only one seeing it. Good.

Oh, lots of us saw it. Just that whenever someone started referencing it too openly, we had to hush them.

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gronostaj
gronostaj
Posts: 403

7/10/2017
Sara Hysaro wrote:
That'd set an awful precedent for future elections, though. "Watch out guys, we gotta figure out who the correct choice is!" and all those fun stories that probably wouldn't end well just won't get a chance to shine. Not to mention the debating would become unbearably intense, resembling real life politics to the point that the election just wouldn't be fun.

I don't know, I rather think it would be fun, if the consequences were well-balanced. Maybe if failbetter were inclined to make one story, similar to short exceptional stories, but playable for everyone, dealing with the consequences of the election choice, both positive and negative. If all choices had possible positive and negative outcomes, it would be less finding a "correct" candidate and more like players weighting whether say, Hell-related Feducci or Fingerkings-related Detective would be worse. That would demand some serious work out of failbetter, though, so I'm no sure they'd want to go this direction, seeing as election is only a small seasonal content.

edit: I mean, you know, not too severe consequences. Partially to avoid sharpening the discourse stick, partially for the benefit new players who might not even know that Feducci is not a real tomb-colonist, not to mention the more obscure lore. not all of us are old donkey-hats who know exactly what they voted for wink
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Arcanuse
Arcanuse
Posts: 89

7/10/2017
True. The coming days might find a rise in Feducci duels.
Who knows, enough duels might bog Feducci down from doing much at all.

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
I aim to have songs made, and the best way to do that is to go down swinging in a fight no one ever thought you'd be crazy enough to take on.

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A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1784

7/10/2017
We are going to use this last quote a lot this year, I can sense it...

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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

7/10/2017
Ironically, we're the ones getting the most smashed.

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Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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Teaspoon
Teaspoon
Posts: 866

7/9/2017
I toast the pair of you, whatever happens.

In mushroom tea, naturally.

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Felicity Anne Stratford
Felicity Anne Stratford
Posts: 63

7/10/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:

I know I told everyone not to take the election too seriously, but I get the idea that a Feducci win will be disappointing. I strongly urge people not to take it too badly (and when I say "people," I'm looking into a mirror, but a chipped one so it's me I'm talking to and not others). However, at the end of the day, take heart in the knowledge we'll end up with nice lore and content any way this goes.


I am steeling myself against the disappointment! I find that the more I play this game the more Felicity cares about the Urchins and the Rubberies and the Clay Men. Events like this seem to remind me that I am in the minority, but also that there are others who do feel the same way! So time to take a breath and let it all go!

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

7/10/2017
I think everyone is about ready for the conclusion. I want to sail off to Port Carnelian for a while.

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/10/2017
Well, the day is upon us wink

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/4/2017
SeveredJoke wrote:

The Regretful Soldiers tale was so moving it made me pay out for the soul trade just to help him out!


OOC: Same. I actually completed his storyline this week, and so it coincided perfectly with the new election info that came out. Thinking in terms of my character helping the soldier with his plight just recently, both my character and I came to a revelation as the election was reaching its halfway point.
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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/4/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:

Would you like your tea cosy Sinning Jenny themed, Rubbery themed, or Clay Man themed?


Any of the above. Preferably all of them.
Edit: After fair, considerate deliberation, I have decided that, if I must choose, Rubbery themed would probably be my favorite <3
edited by LillianAranach on 7/4/2017

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LillianAranach
LillianAranach
Posts: 45

7/4/2017
TeslaWalker wrote:
Anyone else seen the latest Feducci info from the flash lay? Worth all the actions.


I have, indeed. It and the Regretful Soldier's storyline, which I recently completed, were partially why I changed my allegiances. I enjoy the company of my infernal contacts quite a bit, but I've seen what the soldier's been through and what it drove him to. I wish I knew more about why Feducci is at the helm of that trireme. Regardless, if Feducci has earned the Soldier's ire and condemnation, he has earned mine as well.

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colinsapherson
colinsapherson
Posts: 191

7/6/2017
I wanted to share this letter I got after my most recent debate - unnecessary and therefore honest. It was a Feducci supporter and we had a lot of discussion about our respective philosophies during the debate:

You made me think, at least; I doubt that I will change my stance, but I have more respect for the alternatives than I once did. I cannot see the world as you do; I almost wish I could. But if I cannot convince myself that altruism is not futile, I can at least accept that the world is the richer for having such optimists walking it. An argument does not have to be triumphant to be heard. A fight does not have to end in victory to be worthwhile. And a story does not have to be true to inspire. For what it is worth, I wish you luck. May the world show you the same compassion you show it.

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Dudebro Pyro
Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 755

7/6/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
As for the our Campaigner's supporters, they can be sorted into three distinct categories:

1. Dry Supporters - these supporters support the Campaigner's entire platform, especially the temperance planks.

2. Wet Supporters - these supporters have misgivings about, don't care for, or outright oppose the temperance planks in the Campaigner's platform, but they still support the Campaigner because they like her plans to help the poor and marginalized, be they human, Rubbery, or Clay (Sinning Jenny is probably the prototypical Wet).

3. Rubbery Friends/Clay Friends - these supporters back the Campaigner exclusively because she has promised to improve the lot of the Rubbery Men and/or the Clay Men and is being enthusiastically supported by both groups.


What if don't necessarily support the entirety of her campaign but support the temperance planks? Am I a Moist Supporter?

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The Glass Boffin
The Glass Boffin
Posts: 51

7/5/2017
Looks like I too a diving head-first into the honey-well! Tea Time For London! Interestingly enough, because I rather liked Feducci at first.

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Professor Strix
Professor Strix
Posts: 616

7/2/2017
Hi! Both my profiles are with the Campaigner cause. The Professor is a Campaigner and Derek is a Fixer. I debated with myself if I should go with the Implacable Detective, but the Professor is the exact opposite of her and would prefer the Campaigner, despite all her annoying habit of minding businesses that are not hers about other people's lives, rather than the quasi-militaristic take of the Detective and, of course, Feducci (pretty sure she can't be in good terms with him after taking a gallon of blood from him).

I'm open to exchanging of donations. Derek got into quite a mess with UP (I don't even know how did he get 9 of it, weird) and has a ton of menaces right now. If you can kindly help him with those menaces, he can fix everyone else in return.

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"THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used."
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Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix
My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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Teaspoon
Teaspoon
Posts: 866

6/29/2017
I've decided that I will be offering a parcel of First City coins apiece to newcomers to the forum, for the rest of the week. Not out of campaign funds, just off my own bat in the way of amenity and a general welcoming spirit.

Because if we're going to be that nice lot over there, I'd like to live up to the reputation.

edit: naturally I will be pointing out that they can get *more* goodies and support from us. But it seems like the right thing for this campaign, you know?
edited by Teaspoon on 6/29/2017

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Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

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Leonora Rothwood
Leonora Rothwood
Posts: 17

7/2/2017
Azothi wrote:

For more people to ask donations from, you can take a look at the Google Doc that Infinity Simulacrum has kindly made for us, and I'm available for a donation as well. If I recall correctly, you only need six major donations to bring your influence to 10, so we'll get you there in no time.
edited by Azothi on 7/2/2017


Yes, that document really is a marvel. I've been perusing the collected information on the candidates as well. And thank you! I was not expecting this much support so quickly -- I tend to be a bit of a lurker / shy online, but this is really making me rethink where I want my level of forum participation to be.

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

7/3/2017
Here's a letter I've written for the specific purpose of pouching Detective supporters. They've been really hard to crack. I've encountered a lot of soft Feducci supporters, some of whom I've switched. But when I try and persuade Detective supporters I run into a wall of "Only logical conclusion!" So here's my attempt at breaching said wall:

“My friend, I appeal to your sense of reason. In medicine, which is the superior approach, to address the underlying problem or merely treat its symptoms? Our city’s Constabulary, like every other police force, only shows up after things have gone very, very wrong. They are like a surgeon that can only protect the patent by amputating an infected limb. Consider how the Velocipede Squad has undercover Constables sleep among London’s homeless drunks in a vain attempt to discourage thieves from robbing them. Consider how so many Urchins grow up to work for the Cheery Man, the Gracious Widow, and the Topsy King. Rather than focus on arresting people now, we should focus on preventing the criminals and victims of the future. If we are to properly fight crime and disorder, we must drain the swamp of desperation and poverty wherein the criminal population feeds, hides, and breeds. The alternative is, what? More addicts? More broken families? More homeless people? More Urchins in the Flit? More future prisoners in New Newgate? The only logical conclusion is the program offered up by the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner, as she seeks to solve London’s problems at their source.”


Here's a letter I've been using to frame the Campaigner's positions in hyper-patriotic terms:

“My friend, I regret to inform you that London lays prostrate before the Infernal powers of Hell. The Devils dominate us not because of their superior weaponry, but because we have allowed them to colonize us with cheap gin and prisoners honey. Each and every day these vices remain unregulated, our city becomes that much weaker, morally, physically, and politically. Hell’s influence in London has grown to the point that the Brass Embassy feels confident that it can foist one of their agents upon us to be our Mayor! (I speak of course of Feducci, the false-Tomb Colonist and Infernal spy) If London is to ever declare its true independence from Hell, it must first break from its addictions.”


Here's a letter I wrote to argue that the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would be good for the Rubbery Men:

“I have many a times seen the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner on Roser’s Wharf, spending hundreds of echoes buying terrifying live Zee creatures who would otherwise end up in aquariums or chopped up and sold to Monsieur Hearts. Zee creatures are held in even worse regard than Rubberies, so if she can find the sympathy and spend the money to repeatedly help those poor beasts, I don’t believe she will be blind, deaf, and dumb to the needs of the Rubberies. She is a good woman through and through – I hope you will support her.”

Anne recounts the usual scene.
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[note, this is a Roser’s Wharf encounter in Sunless Sea]

A Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is cooing at your Live Specimen
She was here to protest against the shadow-puppet production of The Honey Harvest, but passes her placard to one of her supporters. "How much for the beastie?"

Room in her heart
"I never did like to see anything locked up." She searches her purse for payment, as two of her burlier supporters heft the cage. The thing inside is remarkably still. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner hands over the fee, and pats the cage. "Come now, dearie. Let's get you out of here."


Here's a letter I wrote pointing out that the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would be good for London's children and Urchins:

“Your concern for London’s abandoned, orphaned children is admirable. While it is true that the Campaigner has not laid out a plan to assist the Urchins directly, many of her proposals would indirectly assist them as well as greatly reducing the number of *future* Urchins. One of the leading causes of family disintegration, breakdown, and poverty is addiction to either gin or prisoner’s honey. Often this addiction is the consequence of desperation driven escapism, where exploited people in financial straits take temporary refuge in a honey dream or a gin bottle and get hooked. The result is a perverse debt driven downward spiral, with the parents separating and the children taking refuge in the Flit.

“The Campaigner has pledged not only to do battle with gin peddler and honey dealer, but also with the slumlord, the factory boss, and the loansharking banker. For the impoverished people of London, which includes those Urchins who have permanently lost their families, the Campaigner has pledged to set up homes of help and healing.

“So, as you can clearly see, the Campaigner offers the Urchins far more than Feducci or the Detective. The first offers gambles most of them cannot hope to win (they’ve already lost life’s greatest gamble), while the Detective has nothing for them but a future jail cell.”


Here's a letter I wrote to address concerns that the DTC is overly prejudiced against prisoner's honey, which has many useful and desirable applications:

"Your concerns are quite valid. I myself am reliant on honey for my work involving dreams and mirrors. For many people it is profitable experience or a diverting pass time. But for many others it becomes a ruinous and all-consuming addiction. You will regularly see these poor, "honey-mazed" wretches wandering our streets or permanently haunting the honey-dens, scarecrow thin, confused, and smelling of stale honey. Prisoners Honey is called Prisoners Honey for a reason - it imprisons. Many honey addicts try to flee their addiction by turning to Devil's gin, only to end up falling into a new inescapable dependence. You will find many of these drunks sleeping on the streets of Spite.

"Adding to the perversity, life in our poor Hades can be quite hard and so many people are tempted by unscrupulous landlords, grasping bankers, or merciless factory bosses to take temporary refuge in dream. Financial desperation leads to escapism that leads to addiction that deepens financial desperation and destroys families, the children ending up Urchins in the Flit. Honey is at the root of so much of London's poverty.

"The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner has no plans to ban prisoners honey, but she does desire to make it less glamorous, to reduce the supply, and relieve the social and economic pressures that lead ordinary people to seek temporary but potentially ruinous escape."
edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

7/3/2017
I'll be resuming fervent activity starting tomorrow afternoon. There's a lot of wrongs need righting, and I'll be here to lead the charge.

I'd like to send a forward request for all new flash-lay and investigation snippets to be added to the document.
Tomorrow I'll get started on a new list for PoSI players who've gained Notoriety so our fixers will be on-hand to assist on wednesday.
edited by Infinity Simulacrum on 7/3/2017

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Nero Keller
Nero Keller
Posts: 45

7/3/2017
Indeed. I've done all I can thus far, raising my Agitator rank to 20 and Influencing The Election to 11. I plan to reach 15 in just a few days, provided I can keep getting debate partners. Feel free to request as many donations from me as you like; I have echoes to spare.

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Capn Strokeybeard
Capn Strokeybeard
Posts: 3

6/30/2017
I have joined the cause, for who can stand the taste of gin!

I have roused several mobs and set them upon the supporters of Feducci , but find that my dreams have been troubled in return. Is anyone willing to provide counselling against the night terrors?

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Temperance or be Damned!

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Capn%20Strokeybeard
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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

6/30/2017
Ask not what the Campaigner can do for you, but what you can do for the Campaigner.

When you take the time to send letters and coffee invites to other players, you discover interesting things that don't show up on the forums, where everyone who posts regularly tends to have hard to change opinions and more-often-then-not knew who they were supporting the moment the candidate lineup was complete. Here are three things I've noticed:

First, there is actually a not-insignificant number of players who are investigating the campaigns in detail and weighing platforms and arguments before actually choosing their candidate. Second, there are quite a few late deciders who are only now getting involved or making up their minds. Third, a lot of these late deciders seem to be breaking for the Campaigner or very open to her. These same late deciders tend not to be all that taken with Feducci.

We can help increase these numbers with letters and coffee invites (coffee invites being the better of the two). I myself have made seven recruits to the Campaigner this way in the last 24 hours. I also cost Feducci a supporter, though I don't know if they joined our side or the Detectives.

Just, as a rule, only contact a person once, unless they write back and are open to further discussion. Never be a pest (I know most people know this, but some things are worth emphasizing just in case).
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Generally campaigning via letter box and Caligula's is a lot of fun. Other players role play, they might take the opportunity to send you social actions or calling cards, they might try and convince you that their candidate is best, or they might write you something hilarious. One even sprung a dirty trick on me by asking me to help them with scandal.

So I'd really recommend letter and coffee invite campaigning both as a good strategy and as an enjoyable way to spend the election.

Set goals for how many letters or invites you want to send out per day and try and meet it. Five, ten, whatever works for you. Just don't neglecting building up your election careers.
edited by Anne Auclair on 6/30/2017

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Ynnihiq
Ynnihiq
Posts: 1

6/30/2017
Hello, good folks. It is my first proper participation in elections; I've chosen to be a Campaigner. I am willing to offer donations, please, message Ezleen. Also, accepting them.
Is there anything else I can do?
edited by Ynnihiq on 6/30/2017
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surreyjack
surreyjack
Posts: 105

6/28/2017
I have been hard at work recruiting in one of the discord servers, and I also thank Anne for her generous donations to the cause! I also happen to have more than enough echoes to donate, so solicit away

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Kylestien
Kylestien
Posts: 749

6/28/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
Also, I made a post on the Mr Eaten thread and some of our opponents have down-voted it. Could you guys go and press the green thumb? ^^
edited by Anne Auclair on 6/28/2017


I mean I'm supporting the DTC and I downvoted that. I think pouring honey down a well is a very bad idea, but let's not go about spreading rumors about new Eaten stuff if we win. People take that kind of thing seriously and if it turns out the DTC is just dumping some honey down it and nothing more seekers will be MAD. And I do not want the crazy people that eat anything that moves coming after us.
edited by Kylestien on 6/28/2017

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dov
dov
Posts: 2580

6/28/2017
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
I honestly don't see how anyone could've taken Anne's post serious.

People take Paramount Presence seriously.

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

6/27/2017
I think this quote here should be displayed prominently:


"I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation."
-The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner

The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner has the most progressive platform of the three and I think this is our biggest strength. I recommend that we promote her platform in detail whenever possible. Here it is in full:
  • Increased tea drinking.
  • A reduction in the supply of prisoners honey and intoxicating liquors through more stringent licensing and higher prices.
  • Improved conditions and greater rights for London's workers, debtors, and tenets.
  • "Houses of respite and healing" to aid addicts and the poverty stricken.
  • Help for London's assorted animals - presumably everyone from L.B.'s to Blemmigans.
  • A crackdowns on spirifiers.

Also, don't sneeze at writing the occasional letter to your contacts asking them to support the DTC. I've had a reasonable amount of success doing that.
edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017

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suinicide
suinicide
Posts: 2409

6/27/2017
Downside to the DTC: she is throwing gallons of prisoner's honey and everything else she dislikes down a well. Perhaps eaten would have a harder time reaching out through dreams if she wouldnstop feeding him.

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A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

6/27/2017
Kylestien wrote:
I take offense at the name of the HQ good sir! I like Honey and am opposed to the notion of throwing the lot of it away, ESPECIALLY down wells (Which if you know anything of wells just seems like a bad idea) I demand the name of this headquaters be changed to something more palpitable.

Also, I am more then willing to get rid of any honey and make sure it does not flow across London if you would rather find a safer way to dispose of it.

But my good sir, what better place is there to set up a Headquarters, than at the dropsite of the very substance we despise?
This way, we can safeguard the honey and have an effective HQ both at once!
And hush, be a righteous supporter of the Temperance Campaign and some of that honey may very well find its way into your lap.
...RP aside, what DOES she plan on doing with a big ol' pit of honey? I'm going to take a wild guess and say that at some point the DTC's funds run out and she's forced to start selling the Honey off so she can keep her campaign afloat.

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A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

6/27/2017
suinicide wrote:
Downside to the DTC: she is throwing gallons of prisoner's honey and everything else she dislikes down a well. Perhaps eaten would have a harder time reaching out through dreams if she wouldnstop feeding him.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, perhaps Eaten likes honey.

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Luminen Walker
Luminen Walker
Posts: 172

6/27/2017
We're the well campaign... We're the well campaign... Maybe we can rebrand her as being the official seeking candidate?

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1 - Cpt. Martin Walker, a Paramount and Marvellous Dreamer.
2 - Ariana Crivelli, a silent and sagacious lady.
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SeveredJoke
SeveredJoke
Posts: 171

6/27/2017
Some of our more zealous supporters may provide ammunition for DTC's detractors eager to paint her modest campaign as a mere mask for more totalitarian instincts.

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Annabelle McAllister - Nemesis

Marlon JD - Bag a Legend

Suzi Bapsthwaite - Light Fingers

Delilah Moreo - Heart's Desire

Alexei Totkinder - Nemesis
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Dudebro Pyro
Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 755

6/28/2017
So I started off as a fixer, since that's what I did last year and it just seemed natural to continue, but not I see the campaign may not need that many fixers. I've currently been collecting resources without actually advancing my career specifically to keep my options open - so would it be better for me to switch to e.g. campaigner?

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Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215

6/28/2017
Kylestien wrote:
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Kylestien wrote:
-snip-

I honestly don't see how anyone could've taken Anne's post serious.
Besides, I've seen the opposition use the argument that pouring honey down the well is bad news for London *because* it might upset Mr. Eaten, so fair's fair, if they can use that argument against us, we can use the argument in favour of, er, us.


It's not so much I was taking it serious, more I know someone out there WILL take it serious. And if that promise was not to be, anyone who did would get mad. They'd point fingers at the DTC campagin and go WERE WERE PROMISED EATEN STUFFS.

Whereas I think everyone can agree on pouring honey down wells not be a good idea. Hell I bet SEEKERS think it a bad idea.

Feducci and Detective supporters have been promising "interesting content" if their candidates won. They of course have no guarantee that that will happen, it's merely a possibility. All I did was point out the possibility of interesting content in turn.

And for all we know, maybe giving Mr Eaten honey cheers him up a tad.

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Johnny Felix
Johnny Felix
Posts: 180

6/27/2017
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
-MEND! Help whoever is in need. Yes, even the opposition. Especially the opposition.
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24457-fixers-for-hire-all-campaigns.aspx
It's perhaps just a technicality, but we can't actually fix the scandals & suspicions of the distinguished competition, can we? (Except the usual menace-reduction mechanics at the Lodgings, I mean.)

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https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Johnny%20Felix
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WinterIV
WinterIV
Posts: 68

6/27/2017
If any campaigners do need a quick donation, please feel free to come to my door for tea. Happy to assist anyone in need.

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Winter%20IV
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Slyblue
Slyblue
Posts: 224

6/27/2017
All shall be Well, my dears, and all manner of things shall be Well.

For anyone who needs donations, or feels like donating, Mademoiselle would be glad to help!

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The Smiling Devil The Curt Licentiate The Keen-Eyed Captain

"For hearts of truest mettle, absence doth join and Time doth settle."
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Lady Sapho Byron
Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770

6/27/2017
I am a Campaigner and quite willing to exchange Donations.

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http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron
Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Slyblue
Slyblue
Posts: 224

6/27/2017
Annnd with Lady Sapho's generous donation, it seems Mademoiselle has reached the limits of her influence, at least for this first round. Thank you very much, everyone!

Feel free to keep requesting, though. -Someone- has to deal with all those bottles of liquor, after all.

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The Smiling Devil The Curt Licentiate The Keen-Eyed Captain

"For hearts of truest mettle, absence doth join and Time doth settle."
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Zack Oak
Zack Oak
Posts: 205

6/27/2017
...on second thought, I intend to switch to campaigner. Being a fixer is an exercise in frustration, and unless they mechanically overhaul it, isn't worth the time.

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Tumblr RP Account
Ask me about the Delicious Friends RP group!
Open for social actions (no cats or photographers, please. Currently taking a break from K&C.)
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Waterowl
Waterowl
Posts: 14

6/28/2017
I'm a campaigner and this is my first election. I'm extremely excited to support such a high-minded moral candidate. I'd appreciate any and all donations and will do my best to return the favor. I myself regularly do charitable work in Veilgarden such as helping a hollow-eyed hedonist rid himself of that dreadful prisoner's honey.

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Teaspoon
Teaspoon
Posts: 866

6/29/2017
I am going to a party for the Campaigner.

I have literally not gone to a party once since I first tried the mechanic and decided I couldn't stand it. The DTC's worth it, everyone!

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Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Dudebro Pyro
Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 755

6/28/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
The earlier you switch, the better. So if you want to switch, I say do it now.

That's only true if you build up your career - which is so easy given the frequency of the required card that I'm going to put if off until later.

What I'm asking is whether our campaign needs any particular profession? Do we have an overabundance of anything, or a lack of anything? Or are we more or less balanced, and should I go for whatever I personally prefer?

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Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

6/28/2017
In a flash of political insight I've decided that the "Rob a drunk" snippets will work perfectly for getting our point across, they've been quoted on the Honey-Well's first page, they've been added to the Document, and I carry one in my signature.

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A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Isaac Zienfried
Isaac Zienfried
Posts: 364

6/28/2017
SirKwint wrote:
Feducci's cause is still capable of achieving goals without so-much-fabled spying.

Yes, leave the spying to your chosen candidate.~

--
Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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A Dimness
A Dimness
Posts: 613

6/28/2017
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
Gul al-Ahlaam wrote:
Try and enjoy yourselves, just a little. I promise it won't hurt.

  • It won't hurt whom, exactly?

    edited by Isaac Zienfried on 6/28/2017

    The man is talking about literal carnage and self-destruction, I think we're beyond the point of debate here.

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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    6/30/2017
    Ynnihiq wrote:
    Hello, good folks. It is my first proper participation in elections; I've chosen to be a Campaigner. I am willing to offer donations. Is there anything else I can do?

    Check the Google doc in the first post. You can add your name, a link to your profile, and your career. Not to mention whether you're willing to give donations. Very useful, quite a good idea. Our organizer was quite clever in making it.

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    Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Jolanda Swan
    Jolanda Swan
    Posts: 1784

    6/30/2017
    Though it is a bit out of character, I picked Fixer over Campaigner. Feel free to add me to your contacts - I also donate generously when needed.

    Now, what is this about a paper and the party? How do I take advantage of those? I cannot find a thing in the forums, somehow.

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    papakingbob
    papakingbob
    Posts: 4

    6/30/2017
    Agitating has gone well but some menace fixing would be appreciated.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/30/2017
    My character has a large stockpile of Blackwing Absinthe. In line with temperance philosophy, these bottles should be emptied, and so she's emptying them, one bottle at a time. So if you're a Fixer, helping her cleanup the aftermaths each morning should give you something to do.

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    Capn Strokeybeard
    Capn Strokeybeard
    Posts: 3

    6/30/2017
    Azothi wrote:
    If you could provide your profile name (since Strokeybeard didn't seem to work), I'd be happy to send help your way.

    My apologies, I thought I'd amended my username. As it happens I've had a kind offer from Wan Bowler that I shall be taking up once I get some actions back and fisnish my flash lay.

    I've also added my details to the google doc.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Capn%20Strokeybeard
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/1/2017
    This everyone should try and get their election career numberes as they as they can, because that will be reflected in the election update that explains the state of the race.

    Note: I made some changes to THE TRUTH ABOUT FEDUCCI. Someone pointed out we probably shouldn't explicitly cite the Nemesis stuff or place those links in character to character letters (as opposed to forum posts). I've also added spoiler warnings at the start of each segment. Please make these changes if you're using the template for letters.

    I repeat, the template for letters on page 4 of this thread is now different from the forum only version in the Salon.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/1/2017

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    Sinnouk
    Sinnouk
    Posts: 62

    7/3/2017
    suinicide wrote:
    Just popping in quick to say chuffy McAvory-Dauntless was just confirmed to be her grandson smile
    Thank you smile Already added to the DTC document.

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    gronostaj wrote:
    If the Implacable Detective Wins…

    I go to jail! And you go to jail! And you go to jail, yes, you too! Everyone goes to jail!
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    7/3/2017
    suinicide wrote:
    dov wrote:
    suinicide wrote:
    Just popping in quick to say chuffy McAvory-Dauntless was just confirmed to be her grandson smile

    Where?


    The new investigation result.

    Actually, it might be that she's his grandmother:

    New DTC investigation results wrote:
    "Her Upstairs and I argue like braying asses, but she taught me the best of what I know. No one'll come near if we're here. Mum's the word. Or Grandmum."


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    Delta67
    Delta67
    Posts: 25

    7/2/2017
    I am a campaigner and I can always help others. Other social activities are also welcome.

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    The reminiscence of a seeker. He was Delta67, He will not be again. Open for social activities, lethal sparring bouts preferred.

    And who's this? Freshly arrived at Neath? Also feel free to send social activities to my alt.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/29/2017
    SeveredJoke wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I am going to a party for the Campaigner.

    I have literally not gone to a party once since I first tried the mechanic and decided I couldn't stand it. The DTC's worth it, everyone!


    What is this? I've not seen this option yet, is it an opportunity card?

    I believe she means the standard invitation to Veilgarden, where you have the get together with the Turkish Girl, the Admiral, and the Contrarian.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/29/2017
    laseule wrote:
    Hello all! laseule would much appreciate some help with Nightmares, as they're having trouble sleeping. Also being an Agitator has apparently painted a rather large target on their back, driving up all of their Menaces to an unfortunate degree.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/laseule

    I've contacted some people and nightmare-cures will be sent shortly.

    --
    A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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    Leonora Rothwood
    Leonora Rothwood
    Posts: 17

    7/2/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    a pretty big donation


    My goodness. That was larger than I was imagining! Thanks muchly~

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    Leonora Rothwood, the Ink-Stained Wanderer
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    Leonora Rothwood
    Leonora Rothwood
    Posts: 17

    7/2/2017
    Oh, alright! You can see how I've expanded my original campaign message concept *grins*

    Also, I ought to mention I've got a few echos myself if other campaigners wish to request donations as well.

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    Leonora Rothwood, the Ink-Stained Wanderer
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    Azothi
    Azothi
    Posts: 586

    7/2/2017
    Leonora Rothwood wrote:
    Hello all! I'm one of those people who was really torn and trying to research all the candidates, and then one of Anne's letters tipped the balance. I'm a Campaigner without many social contacts, so I'm looking forward to adding my name to the document and jumping into donation trading. Writing Short Stories makes a lot of roleplaying sense, but it does get quite boring...

    For more people to ask donations from, you can take a look at the Google Doc that Infinity Simulacrum has kindly made for us, and I'm available for a donation as well. If I recall correctly, you only need six major donations to bring your influence to 10, so we'll get you there in no time.
    edited by Azothi on 7/2/2017

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    Azoth I, the Emissary of Cardinals - A Paramount Presence (not currently accepting new Proteges)
    Away to where the Chain cannot bind us.
    Hesperidean.
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    Leonora Rothwood
    Leonora Rothwood
    Posts: 17

    7/5/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    The Glass Boffin wrote:
    I rather liked Feducci at first.

    A lot of people did.


    I don't think it's wrong to say that at this point most of us here would prefer even the Detective to Feducci. Most of the Detective's problem is that her platform doesn't do enough.

    To that end... I suppose I'll go ahead and link a post I made in the "goodness, isn't a coalition a wonderful pipedream" thread which no one seems to have seen, or at least not commented on. I'm a bit put out because I think it's rather an interesting idea and I'd like some other thoughts / feedback on it. Not to mention it takes advantage of the new debate mechanic.

    Edit: added quotes & stuff to make my train of thought clearer
    edited by LNRothwood on 7/5/2017
    edited by LNRothwood on 7/5/2017

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    Leonora Rothwood, the Ink-Stained Wanderer
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/4/2017
    Blaine Davidson wrote:
    Alright, you win. Damn you Auclair but your efforts in addition to the recent Feducci revelations have swayed me.

    I'm jumping ship as soon as this debate has finished. The Campaigner may be wasteful but at least she isn't paranoid or aimless.

    I'll get you the final bit of RP today, as soon as I can. It's just I've been so overwhelmed. You're far from the only one who has changed ships ^_^

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Kukapetal
    Kukapetal
    Posts: 1449

    7/6/2017
    What if you only support her because you hate the other two? :P
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/4/2017
    LillianAranach wrote:
    SeveredJoke wrote:

    The Regretful Soldiers tale was so moving it made me pay out for the soul trade just to help him out!


    OOC: Same. I actually completed his storyline this week, and so it coincided perfectly with the new election info that came out. Thinking in terms of my character helping the soldier with his plight just recently, both my character and I came to a revelation as the election was reaching its halfway point.
    edited by LillianAranach on 7/4/2017

    That is uncanny timing.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/4/2017
    Feducci lost a lot of votes today. Let's see if we can get him to lose even more tomorrow. We can win this.

    Here's our Sinning Jenny Endorsement Letter. Send it:

    My friend, Sinning Jenny, London’s beloved first Mayor, has openly endorsed the campaign of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner by taking tea in Hastings Square. The Mayor has been won over to our cause by the Campaigner’s determination to continue Sinning Jenny’s legacy of actively helping the poor and the marginalized citizens of London. Among these poor and marginalized are the Rubbery Men and the Clay Men, both of which have found a dauntless advocate for their rights in the person of the Campaigner.

    Our Mayor has no doubt also been unnerved by all the disturbing revelations surrounding Feducci: the bribes he has received from foreign powers, his service in Hell’s Revolution, and HIS WORK AS A SLAVE DRIVER ON HELL’S BRASS TRIREMES. But most damning for Feducci is his intent on COMPLETELY TEARING UP SINNING JENNY’S LEGACY without any realistic idea of what to replace it with.

    The choice is clear. You can help the poor and marginalized of London by voting for the Campaigner. Or you can cast your vote for Feducci, foreign occupation and the rejection of Sinning Jenny's work on our behalf.
    ***
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24547-sinning-jenny-endorses-the-dauntless-campaigner.aspx
    ***
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24548-the-campaigner-the-clay-men-and-the-rubberies.aspx

    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/4/2017

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/4/2017
    I knew the recent revelations would be a boon to our side. Redouble your efforts, Campaigner campaign, and we'll make London rethink counting us out!

    --
    Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Leonora Rothwood
    Leonora Rothwood
    Posts: 17

    7/10/2017
    It's a good thing this only lasts two weeks. Yesterday I got fed up enough that I finally played through All Things Must End (I'd been saving it).

    --
    Leonora Rothwood, the Ink-Stained Wanderer
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    Jolanda Swan
    Jolanda Swan
    Posts: 1784

    7/10/2017
    I will sip a strong black mountain tea imported from Greece, and wait. I feel more fired up than ever - so strange for one supporting the Temperance campaign!

    --
    Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play.
    http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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    Odin, All-father
    Odin, All-father
    Posts: 15

    7/10/2017
    Raise our banners high, and stand yet still. For our hearts are true and our will yet endures.
    Come what may in the days ahead, we shall stand.
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    Squarry
    Squarry
    Posts: 11

    7/10/2017
    I say! No one may touch tea! Not even mayor!

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Squarry Greetings
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    SeveredJoke
    SeveredJoke
    Posts: 171

    7/10/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    As a funereal rite for this thread, and closing ceremony for the election I'd like to do a personal little giveaway.
    So the first person to hit me with a calling card or Coffee at Caligula's,
    will get my Parabolan Kitten as well as an invitation to share in a bottle of First Sporing,
    The next five people will each get a pile of First City Coins,
    and the next eleven people get to share a bottle of Black Wings Absinthe with me.

    To a fine year,
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/The%20Mirthless%20Colonist


    A very kind offer.

    Before the election I didn't really take part in the social actions or role play aspects of the game and it's clear that my experience of Fallen London was poorer for it. Even when conversing with opponents I've been impressed by the imagination, wit and dedications people have put towards the game.

    The text for the DTC's farewell was perfectly pitched with the right amount of defiance and melancholy.

    --
    Annabelle McAllister - Nemesis

    Marlon JD - Bag a Legend

    Suzi Bapsthwaite - Light Fingers

    Delilah Moreo - Heart's Desire

    Alexei Totkinder - Nemesis
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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/10/2017
    Time to add a little whiskey to my tea and put on The Foggy Dew.

    While the world did gaze with deep amaze
    At those fearless men, but few...

    --
    Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Jillius
    Jillius
    Posts: 36

    7/10/2017
    Kukapetal wrote:
    Yeah, you're right. Just bugs me that, out of the six candidates we've had in elections so far, 5 of them were very different but still okay people who I wouldn't have minded having as a mayor, even if I didn't vote for them. But the one candidate who's blatantly evil is the one who gets the overwhelming support.

    I know this would never happen, because it's not fair to punish the people who supported the winning candidate, but I feel like the election of a foreign spy, slavedriver, and person who FORCES other to participate in bloodsports (remember that once you join the Black Ribbon Society, he won't let you leave it), who ran on the platform "what can I say that will get these idiots to vote for me" ought to have worse consequences for London than just a different flavor of opportunity card. But of course that won't happen.

    Very much this. I would pay to see Failbetter give this election a consequence. More than a "good" London, I would like to see narrative coherence, and I can not see how a Spy/Slavetrader in that position could not lead to something.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Jillius
    Whenever I am sent something, I'll try to add a witty line when writing back. Common decency, really.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/6/2017
    Drake Dynamo wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Drake Dynamo wrote:

    Where are you getting this information?

    It's called talking to people. I obviously don't know what the actual numbers are, but I think I have a pretty good sense of the trends and hence can form a rough picture of where things stand.

    If you're going just based on the forums,

    I'm not going by the forums at all. I'm talking to people who don't use the forums regularly or at all. As I've said many, many times.

    BFW Edit: sigh
    edited by babelfishwars on 7/7/2017

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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2409

    7/6/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    suinicide wrote:

    You did say a resurgence was happening.

    Nope.
    .
    .
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/6/2017


    Ah, you are right. Looking back at it, it appears the post was exaggerated in my memory. I'll delete my comment shortly.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/7/2017
    colinsapherson wrote:
    But if I cannot convince myself that altruism is not futile, I can at least accept that the world is the richer for having such optimists walking it.

    "Become the change you want to see," I suppose.

    --
    Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Posts: 575

    7/9/2017
    Blaine Davidson wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I have that many coins.

    Done.


    Let us hope they uphold their end of the bargain.

    Considering they were honest with my offer, I'd put my trust in them.

    --
    Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist
    Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist
    Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary
    Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft


    Available for any and all social actions.
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/9/2017
    Correction: Anna wants 180 coins. I completely misread the thread. Whoops!

    I've sent her sixty and don't have any more. Does anyone else have the final 120, or should I request a refund?
    edited by Teaspoon on 7/9/2017

    --
    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Blaine Davidson
    Blaine Davidson
    Posts: 388

    7/7/2017
    Am I the only one who paid Fate to switch sides or is there anyone else who should not have this much disposable income to spare.

    --
    Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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    crazyroosterman
    crazyroosterman
    Posts: 187

    7/7/2017
    Blaine Davidson wrote:
    Am I the only one who paid Fate to switch sides or is there anyone else who should not have this much disposable income to spare.
    I can one up you there 3 times I've paid fate to switch classes primarily because I value fake points far to much and I happen to be a bit to invested in who wins this for my own good....


  • edited by crazyroosterman on 7/7/2017
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/8/2017
    Today I received one of my own pamphlets (the Jenny one, to be precise), which was rather interesting.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Trilby
    Trilby
    Posts: 290

    7/10/2017
    If the detective fails, know that you'll still have my support.

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    Andrea Serafini
    Andrea Serafini
    Posts: 169

    7/9/2017
    I offer myself to give you the coins that are missing.

    So, 60 blaine, 60 teaspoon, you need 60 still?

    If any other Feducci supporter (or even id) wants to sell their vote for first city coins or else i'll be happy to buy it.
    edited by Mizr. Edlaine Saphburgh on 7/9/2017

    --
    Mizr Edlaine Saphburgh, the Prothean Neologist
    Per aspera, sic itur ad astra
    (i.e. I'd really love to patron new and seasoned Londoneers, or help them in any other way possible.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/9/2017
    Only 60 more coins are required, that is correct.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Professor Strix
    Professor Strix
    Posts: 616

    7/9/2017
    laseule wrote:
    Sorry if this is the wrong place, but could laseule possibly request some help with Nightmares? This Agitator business is quite hard on the Menaces.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/laseule


    Fixers can't fix nightmares, but you can dump yours on the Professor using those betrayal options in the lodgings. She doesn't mind. Can't be a mad scientist without being a little mad.

    --
    The Inescapable Professor, London's Most Academic Detective. Open to consultation from Mondays to Fridays, above the Silver Binding bookshop, Veilgarden. Half the payment in advance, half after closing the case. No refunds.

    "THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used."
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    Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix
    My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to:
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/9/2017
    Wowza, those upvotes. I need to make fewer snarky jibes and more battlefield rallying speeches. Preferably ones with Firefly references.

    --
    Isaac Zienfried, 'The Vacillating Belligerent.'
    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/9/2017
    Isaac Zienfried wrote:
    I've been known to say that if the Campaigner wins, it will be Anne's doing. While I do not rescind this, I'd like to give Feducci himself a commendation for being the second-most fervent campaigner for our cause.

    I think Infinity Simulacrum deserves 50% credit as they put together our HQ and assembled all the information. They also came up with the name for our HQ, which Failbetter really liked, apparently.

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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2409

    7/11/2017
    LillianAranach wrote:
    Isaac Zienfried wrote:

    EDIT: I see our Lillian is taking on the Rubbery Murders in Veilgarden right now. I happened to stop by there to pick up some amber.
    edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/11/2017



    Indeed, the case with the least evidence ever. How am I even meant to convict anyone, let alone the right one with this vague nonsense?


    :P don't worry, murders don't actually affect london (and a hint, the devil's in the details)

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    7/27/2017
    I'd like to offer another round of applause to Infinity Simulacrum, whose organization and carefully maintained lists were essential to winning 21% and denying Feducci a majority. Thanks to these efforts, we really punched above our weight in social points, getting 27% of the total.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    7/10/2017
    St.Meliflua's Candle?

    --
    Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    Lady Sapho Byron
    Lady Sapho Byron
    Posts: 770

    7/10/2017
    Isaac Zienfried wrote:
    I say we charge people to lower 'em down into the well in a bucket until the honey's up to their noses.


    Yes! But DTC supporters get in free.

    It's like the song says: A well full of honey helps the bitter taste of defeat go down.
    edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 7/10/2017

    --
    http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron
    Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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    Arcanuse
    Arcanuse
    Posts: 89

    7/10/2017
    We certainly could use the honey.

    --
    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Arcanuse
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    Tystefy
    Tystefy
    Posts: 450

    7/11/2017
    Looks like Mr. Eaten will be disappointed. Pity.

    --
    Will sometimes return to post absurdity.
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    Jillius
    Jillius
    Posts: 36

    7/10/2017
    gronostaj wrote:
    Jillius wrote:
    For example, Feducci is/was a spy and a slave trader, so why not introduce a story where he paves the way for him to establish a slave trade from underground London?

    i see Feducci went from a foreman for POWs on a hellish trireme into full-blown slave trader in less than a week ;P
    edited by gronostaj on 7/10/2017

    Because being the one who whips people to work like cattle until they would die from either exhaustion or the wounds in a world where they can't even get the release of death is so much better than being the one who kidnaps and sells people. *cough*12 Years A Slave*cough*
    (Not a native, and I had to actually look up "slave-" words. A slave ring, I learned, is apparently only used for sex trafficking. The more you know.)

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Jillius
    Whenever I am sent something, I'll try to add a witty line when writing back. Common decency, really.
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    Squarry
    Squarry
    Posts: 11

    7/10/2017
    Well, Bishop of Southwark is a special case for me...

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Squarry Greetings
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