Hunter Grey
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Hello all, I'm eager to begin advancing my career as a campaigner, but I am still considering which candidate to support. I am already leaning towards a decision but I would like to hear others opinions and gain more knowledge of the candidates so that I may make an informed decision as is my duty. Regarding the candidates, I have long enjoyed the pleasures of wine and honey, but the determined temperance campaigner seems like a kind woman devoted to improving society. Perhaps some families and myself are indeed damaged by addictions to honey. The implacable detective seems a very intelligent, efficient woman who could keep the city safer and hopefully reduce corruption among the constables.The candidate I am currently most in favor of is Feducci. A fair society where all may achieve their full potential by climbing the chain sounds wonderful. In my opinion this is precisely what a good government should do for it's people. Please let me know your thoughts, all candidates seem capable people working to improve our great city.
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Jenny was our precious sinnamon roll. This year hasn't offered up anyone with that perfect mix of benevolence and sauciness, so we're having to choose which counts as the next best thing.
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IHNIWTR
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6/27/2017
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I can't believe I'm supporting the campaigner, but there you have it
the explanatory text on her card absolutely won me over
[spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.
"I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]
I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day
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Kindelwyrm
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7/2/2017
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Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Kindelwyrm wrote:
I've chosen according to what my characters would want. My main, Alison Wright, wants to continue to see her figurative star in ascendance - and doesn't mind gambling to win. Rosetta Byrd, on the other hand, fully intends to bring about a reckoning. So she's all for throwing honey down wells and supporting anarchists!
The "The DTC is allied with anarchists" argument has already been debunked a fair amount of times.
It's simply not true.
I personally don't feel like that character would care - and it's her IC opinion that matters more, in this case.
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Rosetta Byrd - The Fatally Inquisitive Enquirer
A Drawing Room - Fallen London fan art blog. The misadventures of Alison "Alice" Wright in trying to get portraits of the Masters.
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Teaspoon
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6/27/2017
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The Detective is in league with the Fingerkings, Feducci is hand-in-glove with the Presbyterate...
that leaves the Campaigner as the only candidate without extra-London sympathies. In an election for the Mayor of London. That's something to consider.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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6/28/2017
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Teaspoon wrote:
The Detective is in league with the Fingerkings, Feducci is hand-in-glove with the Presbyterate...
that leaves the Campaigner as the only candidate without extra-London sympathies. In an election for the Mayor of London. That's something to consider.
The only connection I'm overly concerned for is Feducci's, not because it's the Presbyterate, but because he'd be serving one nation while having minor control over another. Connections to the Presbyterate are one thing, active citizenship and service to them is another. As someone with friends and ties to organizations utilizing Fingerkings, while I'd say it bears keeping in mind and possible concern for, it's not the killing bullet for me. It's hardly a benign issue with her, but neither an unusual one at that. And let's not forget past revolutionary connections to the Campaigner. To be fair, these are most likely PAST connections and should be seen as such, especially since she seems to be turning from their advances towards her campaign. Still, if nothing else, we should remember that they wish to remain current in her life.
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Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist
Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary
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So, we have Feducci the eccentric liberal, hoping to undermine the institutions of aristocratic privilege and dispel all barriers to the pursuit of wealth, power or pleasure. The Detective seems to be something of a modernising authoritarian, seeking to both expand and reform the police and justice systems to direct society along more rational lines. The Temperance Campaigner is a textbook paternalistic reformer, using public authority and private wealth to attack perceived social ills. A very different crop of candidates from last year's race, and none entirely without appeal.
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Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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A Dimness
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6/28/2017
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
So, we have Feducci the eccentric liberal, hoping to undermine the institutions of aristocratic privilege and dispel all barriers to the pursuit of wealth, power or pleasure. The Detective seems to be something of a modernising authoritarian, seeking to both expand and reform the police and justice systems to direct society along more rational lines. The Temperance Campaigner is a textbook paternalistic reformer, using public authority and private wealth to attack perceived social ills. A very different crop of candidates from last year's race, and none entirely without appeal.
None with great emotional appeal either. Or at least none with the raging popular appeal of Jenny, for example.
I'd honestly say it's better this way, the raging popular appeal Jenny had was more of a detriment than a boon to the election, made it far too one-sided and made her much too Mary-Sueish for the Bishop and the Contrarian to keep up with her.
Really, the only way any election with Jenny would be anywhere near evenly matched would be to pit her against two equally popular characters, and most of the well-known ones aren't really of a mind for politics.
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Anne Auclair
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6/28/2017
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
As someone with friends and ties to organizations utilizing Fingerkings, while I'd say it bears keeping in mind and possible concern for, it's not the killing bullet for me.
My character actually likes the Fingerking connection - though she's a bit of the jealous sort. She gave a fully packed theater to the Fingerkings with absolutely no hesitation and she's destined to become the Huntsmen, so she's probably more sinister in this regard then the Detective could ever be :P
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Anne Auclair
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7/2/2017
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Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Kindelwyrm wrote:
I've chosen according to what my characters would want. My main, Alison Wright, wants to continue to see her figurative star in ascendance - and doesn't mind gambling to win. Rosetta Byrd, on the other hand, fully intends to bring about a reckoning. So she's all for throwing honey down wells and supporting anarchists!
The "The DTC is allied with anarchists" argument has already been debunked a fair amount of times.
It's simply not true.
It's more accurate to say she's personally acquainted with some of them due to her past friendship with the late March, who the Calandar Council purged for lack of commitment to the Liberation. The fact that March's old following wants to help the DTC is a definite sign though that she is no friend of the Masters.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
6/27/2017
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Jenny was our precious sinnamon roll.
This is true.
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Anne Auclair
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6/27/2017
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If you listen to Feducci's examples, even he doesn't seem to believe that doing away with restrictions will actually encourage greater equality or permanent upward mobility. Instead he's promising a world of easy come easy go, a gamblers paradise essentially.
"I mean to even the odds. We can't change everything about the game; The kings and queens of the game are ensconced, but what if we changed the rules? What if an urchin could rise to the same heights as a Governor's son? And then—"
He breaks into a wheezing cough, but presses on: "What if he could lose all his fortune again in an hour?"
But it's not quite clear just how he'd actually achieve this vision... As he himself admits, the rich will remain the kings and queens of the game. And some of them, the Devils in particular, will greatly benefit from a bonfire of restrictions on soul trading, for example. And it's all well and good to preach a gamblers view of the world, but Feducci specializes in taking bets that he knows he can't lose, because he has rigged the game in advance. He participates in fights to the death when he cannot die. He invests in a trade deal that he knows the Presbyterate will approve, because he's secretly working for them. Ordinary people will never defeat the Feducci's of the world in Feducci's world.
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Hunter Grey
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6/27/2017
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It is indeed a mystery what Feducci's intentions are. I think you are right that many people support him due to wanting to see what his motives are. I think there's also a desire in people to vote for chaotic candidates just for the sake of shaking things up. Away with the restrictions, then see what happens. I'll search through the threads some more to make a better decision. Thank you both for sharing your thoughts with me.
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