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Absintheuse
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6/26/2017
Delicious friends, the time has come: Election begins today. Sinning Jenny’s time is up and a new Mayor will be chosen!

“A carriage draped in sinful scarlet is stopped on a corner. A handsome footman in unduly tight livery hands you an envelope with gold lettering. "The Mayor invites you to a farewell soiree at Blythenhale Mansion.”

You are invited to participate in the city's second official Election.



The Election is free and is open to all players. It will begin today, Monday 26th June and end on the 10th July. Halfway through, we'll announce which candidate is in the lead.

Choose a candidate, and campaign! Gather Election Resources, and raise your Election Career Level to increase their support!

Join the electoral efforts now through the "An Invitation to a Ball" storylet, to explore the three candidates up for the 1895 Election: Feducci, the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner, and the Implacable Detective.

As part of the Fallen London Reworks project, players will be able to participate in two brand new social activities to help them amplify their vote:
  • Each political career will have its own unique social ability to further increase the impact of your vote—these social activity will be available throughout the entirety of the festival.
  • The second social activity, Debates, will begin the second week of the festival

The elected Mayor will reign for one year, after which another election will be held. The winning candidate will have a Mayoral influence in your Opportunity Deck until next year's election, so consider who you support carefully.

Excitingly, this year candidate posters are available to purchase through Gametee! Their talented co-founder and art director AJ Hateley has designed a unique poster for each candidate, which will be available to purchase from 20:30 BST 26th June - 31st July.

We cannot wait to see who you will choose, delicious friends...

edited by Absintheuse on 6/27/2017
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Zack Oak
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7/5/2017
Apropos of a longer argument, I'm going to just say that it's 2017, and I was hoping we could have finally seen the end of the term "mary-sue" being applied to any female character that shows kindness or competence.

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dov
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6/29/2017
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Feducci's campaign seems tailored to appeal to the aspirational middle class - who stand to profit most if government regulations are relaxed, and who hope to gain access to power and prestige that wealth alone cannot bring - and to those particularly optimistic souls among the working class for whom any increase in station is worth gambling for, however long the odds.

The Campaigner's platform seems to appeal most to the working poor and underclass who would directly benefit from her reforms, and those members of the middle and upper classes whose income does not come directly from those businesses likely to be affected and who can thus afford to be public-spirited.

The Detective's goals seem to have swept up both those who support expanded police powers in general, and those rationalists among the scientific and technical class who favour a large-scale top-down restructuring of society.


Nice break down. How about:

  • The Implacable Detective desires a top-down reform. Appeals to logic (Logos)
  • The Campaigner desires a bottoms-up reform. Appeals to ethics (Ethos)
  • Feducci desires to shake things up (while acknowledging that those at the very top will stay there). Appeals to emotion (Pathos)

More on Aristotle’s "ingredients for persuasion"

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 Saklad
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6/26/2017
Autonomous wrote:
So, we have to choose between a totalitarian(-) animal-rights(-)(animal-lovers tend to be human-opressors-they cut human rights for the animal rights) tea-drinker, a detective dark-horse(?), or a liberterian(+) egalitarian(+) tomb-colonist(+)(the first time a "not-so-human" person gets a chance for a high post in London- not counting the Masters. Maybe they'll stop genociding the rubbery men and making the Clay Men toil under his rule ) Feducci.

I vote Feducci. I choose freedom and ease.
edited by Autonomous on 6/26/2017
edited by Autonomous on 6/26/2017

I think you’re mistaken. There are no tomb-colonists running for Mayor this year.


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    BlabberingMat
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    6/26/2017
    Also, I applaud the fact that mingling is not action-sinking. Gives me a chance to enjoy the text (which is, so far, very lovely) and explore everything slowly

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    Anne Auclair
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    6/26/2017
    Rostygold wrote:
    The kicker here is that, for all of you people's arguments in the threads for the candidates, whoever wins, his/her term would not be any more impactful than Jenny's.

    The most that might be obtained from any winner is a premium story accessible only to paying players, and a card that everyone gets.

    Well, at the minimum there will be:

    1. A free story staring the Mayor at a future festival (last year it was the Festival of the Zee).
    2. The Mayoral influence card.
    3. A premium story for a modest fate price that leaves you and London with something permanent.
    4. A special Christmas card, again purchased with fate.
    5. A special Hallowmas confession/Mr Huffam conversation.
    6. One last Mayoral event at the end of term that introduces the new candidates (in Jenny's case a ball).

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/4/2017
    One thing that has impressed me. I've been talking with a lot of players from different campaigns via letters and coffee invites and I've been blown away by the wide range and skill of the election RP, regardless of the decisions or the candidates supported. If you're not doing election RP you're really missing out. It's also a lovely way to overcome OOC campaign divisions - when a supporter of candidate X sends you an entertaining and well written explanation for why their character is voting the way they are, you share a fun little moment. And fun little moments make it hard to have hard feelings about, well, anything.

    Yeah, my letter writing strategy was a really good call I think. It's worked in strategic terms and it's increased enjoyment of the game. It was totally worth the 46 debate challenges that have resulted :P
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    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/4/2017

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    Diptych
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    7/3/2017
    Until now, I've resisted offering my personal opinion on the candidates. Now that the election is entering its final week, I feel the time is right to share my views - speaking entirely in my unofficial capacity. I'm supporting the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. I strongly believe that the institution of government should serve those least able to advance their own cause - those who are vulnerable, and who are preyed upon by the greedy and heartless - and this is what the Campaigner pledges to do. Feducci may be a charming old rogue, but his talents are best kept the field of sports, rather than politics. The Detective is a most respectable lady, for whom I have the greatest respect, but her plans for reform are better kept within the justice system, which they chiefly concern. The Campaigner's platform is the best suited for the office of Mayor, and is, further, the one which speaks most to the reason and the conscience of any public-spirited Londoner. Thank you for your attention, and I hope I shall see you all at the voting booth come election day!

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    Edward Warren
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    6/28/2017
    The Implacable Detective prosecuting London's corrupt judges and politicians? Yeah, that policy will last all of five minutes before the Masters kill it, with them spending that first five minutes laughing their batty arses off at her. Too many people benefit from the current corrupt order to let her tear the whole thing down.

    The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner wants more poorhouses? When you pay people to be poor, you get exactly what you pay for: more poverty and more complacency. Banning cheap vices like liquor and drugs won't make the demand nor the existing supply evaporate. The people will merely turn to even more illicit means to get their fix, bringing more criminals to power.

    And then there's Feducci, a fearless leader whose cunning and wit are rivaled only by his prowess in battle. Feducci is a man who practices what he preaches, and is the only candidate who's been told to be capable of delivering what he promises. He aided the Season of Revolutions in overthrowing the Aristocracy of Hell! If he can stand against Hell itself and triumph, what chance does the current order have in holding him back?

    Fellow citizens, I implore you! Back the only candidate whose methods and goals are time-tested and true!

    VOTE FEDUCCI!

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    Diptych
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    6/28/2017
    I'd suggest that, if people are going to hurl invective in-character, they do so in the Fabularities, and make clear they're simply writing fiction. Out-of-character discussion is to be kept civil!

    Gul al-Ahlaam wrote:
    Aren't we all posting in character? Do people have actual positions on this election between a secret super detective, a mummy ninja, and a victorian social activist?


    There's a difference between discussing events within the story's own internal logic, and roleplaying as a character in that story. Roleplaying should be done in Mr Pages' Fabularities; the other boards are for discussing things as yourself.
    edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 6/28/2017

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    Macragg
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    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    Feducci's supporters are primarily players who feel a fairly large degree of detachment with their characters or the actual setting, so they pick the option that's most likely to amuse them and stir up things. Either that, or their player characters are so powerful already that they'll only really be able to benefit from Feducci's victory.

    As a DTC supporter, I'm just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I'd personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that's been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I'm putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I'm doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I've written everything but the name-list myself).

    I think I'm getting too carried away at times, I absolutely love campaigning but I'm making it more of a hot-button issue than it is.



    This seems like a somewhat unfair perspective. There's plenty of perfectly valid roleplaying reasons one might have to support Feducci- for instance, my main runs in a less-than-lawful crowd and is simultaneously chummy with the Velocipede Squad. He also has quite a taste for wine and honey thank-you-very-much, so both the DTC and the Implacable Detective are right out. By contrast, he knows and respects Feducci from his time with the Black Ribbons, so it's a question of supporting a well-liked acquaintance vs. supporting two people who promise to attack the very things he enjoys in London. Nothing detached or meta-gamey about it.
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    Lady Sapho Byron
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    6/27/2017
    Did the Bishop really say, "But what is God if not love, eh? Vengeance, that's what!"? I think someone stopped reading after Malachi.

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    Jolanda Swan
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    6/26/2017
    Aw, I loved the farewell party. Whoever is writing Sinning Jenny is doing a wonderful job with her, always.

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    Diptych
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    6/26/2017
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    Awww, I like that she remembers who we voted for last year. It is also really bittersweet piece of text...


    I supported Jenny last year - the Bishop and the Contrarian were both happy to see me, no hard feelings, and Jenny and I shared a moment of reflection on the year's achievements. A nice moment!

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    dov
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    6/26/2017
    Fadewalker wrote:
    Three new items this year,
    [spoiler]
    you get the first for free and further for 30 fate.
    Epicurean War-Helm: Hat, Feducci only, +8 Dangerous, +1 Dreaded;
    Corinthian Belfry Hat: Hat, Detective only,, +8 Shadowy, +1 Bizarre;
    Indignant Bearskin: Hat, DTC only, +8 Persuasive, +1 Respectable.


    Last year:
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22610-new-festival-election.aspx#post151410
    [/spoiler]

    FYI:

    Feducci's item is best in slot for Dangerous, excluding profession items and Moods.
    The Detective's item is best in slot for Shadowy, excluding Moods

    In short: Vote Detective! :-)

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    dov
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    7/3/2017
    Plynkes wrote:
    Oh man! I was right about Chuffy!

    (Or did I give them the idea? That would be even cooler.)

    Given Chris's reaction here, you might have indeed given them the idea :-)

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    hellaGumshoe
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    7/5/2017
    I'd like to drop a reminder that Feducci's Bad. The result of investigating him made me remember being caught up in my good friend, the Regretful Soldier's, Heartbreaking Tale, which culminated in [Spoiler]me entering his body and going back in time via the use of a magical set of handcuffs. In this experience, Feducci was seen as a slave driver, aboard one of Hell(the bad part of hell, not the suave warm-eyed parts)'s horrific slave-powered Triremes. As someone not only complicit in slavery, but actively commanding slaves, he cannot be trusted to rule over our fair, just city! Vote Detective! Vote Temperance! Just Don't Vote Feducci!
    edited by hellaGumshoe on 7/5/2017

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    Diptych
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    6/29/2017
    Feducci's campaign seems tailored to appeal to the aspirational middle class - who stand to profit most if government regulations are relaxed, and who hope to gain access to power and prestige that wealth alone cannot bring - and to those particularly optimistic souls among the working class for whom any increase in station is worth gambling for, however long the odds.

    The Campaigner's platform seems to appeal most to the working poor and underclass who would directly benefit from her reforms, and those members of the middle and upper classes whose income does not come directly from those businesses likely to be affected and who can thus afford to be public-spirited.

    The Detective's goals seem to have swept up both those who support expanded police powers in general, and those rationalists among the scientific and technical class who favour a large-scale top-down restructuring of society.

    Curious times, to be sure. Any contender has the potential to shake things up for good or for ill.

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    Azothi
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    6/29/2017
    Edward Warren wrote:
    The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner intends to open more poorhouses and abolish cheap pleasures like honey and alcohol. Sinning Jenny spent the majority of her term building poorhouses and setting up programs for the disenfranchised. To vote for a candidate promising essentially the exact same thing rephrased is to admit either that Sinning Jenny either accomplished nothing or couldn't manage to do enough to tackle the issue, even with all the powers of the mayoral office. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability to tack this issue, nor the urgency of tackling this issue.
    As you've said yourself, the mayorship only lasts a year, and that the new mayor is free to reverse or build upon the achievements of the previous mayor. You seem to have forgotten this so quickly when it becomes inconvenient. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is building upon the programs established by Sinning Jenny, focusing on helping the poor and addicted, such as the Honey-Addled Detective and other such minds who have been brought down by gin and honey. Rome wasn't built in a day, and these issues won't go away in a year either. All we can do is keep on grinding at that grindstone. Things have already gotten better. Voting in Feducci risks throwing away all the progress we've made already.

    Edward Warren wrote:
    And again, let us not forget our experiences of the past election cycle. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner owes favors to the Revolutionaries. Anyone even vaguely familiar with organized crime can tell you that owing a disrepuatable bunch like that favors is tantamount to them owning you. By the end of the campaign the Jovial Contrarian's campaign was all but taken over by the Calendar Council, with February herself openly walking the halls as his "assistant". Is these really the people we want to hold the reigns of power for a whole year?
    The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is at the very least opposed to if not the enemy of the Calendar Council. These are anarchists trying to call on old connections that were burned when the Council ordered the death of March. Bear in mind that the late March is most likely John Cassell, a man dedicated to social reform, education, and helping the working class. That's her revolutionary connection.
    Edward Warren wrote:
    Don't vote for a candidate that will foster complacency among the poor, vote for the one that gives every man an honest chance to advance, should he have the spine to work for it!
    Were we not all once prisoners brought here with just the clothes on our back and a hope in our hearts? Without Feducci, we've advanced to the upper echelons of every fragment of society: we are academics, poets, governors, and explorers. We are scholars of the Correspondence. We hunt monsters in the peligin depths. We traverse Parabola and break the boundaries of what Is and Is Not. We were nothing, and look at what we've become? Our city as it stands is a testament to our ability to rise up and climb the chain without Feducci. He would give us what we already have and claim to be a visionary for it.

    To advance in society, a person needs capital, a way to invest and grow that investment. Feducci's policies do nothing to give us that capital. Away with the rules and restrictions? Let the workers toil for pennies on the hour with no protection from injury and death, why don't you? Let the rich do as they please because, well, the rules and restrictions are gone. Let the drunkards and the addicts waste their lives away, enslaved to these substances, why don't you? Feducci's society has no place for these people, and he gives no way of reintegrating them into the workforce and the economy.

    No, Feducci is no candidate for the every man. He's the one who gives false hope and leaves us with nothing more than what we already had.

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    Diptych
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    6/28/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Napoleon III became President of France, then Emperor, partly due to his celebrity.


    I thought it was due to his commitment to pneumatic tube-based policies! Swing voters will support whichever candidate pledges to provide the most pneumatic tubes - and they're right to do so.

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    Anne Auclair
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    6/29/2017
    You know, I've decided that the Jovial Contrarian is 100% sincere when he expresses bafflement at why people around him keep having heart attacks.

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    Diptych
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    6/29/2017
    Plynkes wrote:
    unless I missed something, once you've done one of each for all three of them you've found out all there is to find out. ... If so I think I might knock it on the head for a spell, as it as lost its allure.

    I understand that new things will happen next week, so I'll probably rejoin the fray then, though.


    That's fair. But there is one other source of info on the candidates - their respective cards. So, you can always just play as usual, while keeping an eye out for those, until the second week!
    edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 6/29/2017

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    Omega8520
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    7/3/2017
    So, to summarise the new information:
    Feducci was a slaver (which we knew), a hypocrite (which we also knew) and is apparently bad with paperwork
    DTC is working with the Young Stags and rubberies, and not with the anarchists
    The Detective is serious enough about no corruption that she's lost most of her staff, and also doesn't quite seem to know what's going on with the fingerkings but is figuring it out
    edited by Omega8520 on 7/3/2017

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    Plynkes
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    7/3/2017
    Oh man! I was right about Chuffy!

    (Or did I give them the idea? That would be even cooler.)

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    Amsfield
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    7/4/2017
    I'm entirely unsure that I agree the DTC is without flaws, at least as far as running for office, maybe not as a human being; firstly, there is the whole 'temperance' thing itself. Prohibition infamously failed IRL, most players and I suspect more characters are drinkers and it's obvious to everyone but her that Mr Wines will squash that.
    Second, she has personally campaigned against a lot of people's characters. I know Feducci has killed a few of us, but we did start that fight, and whilst the ID has investigated us occasionally we tend to interact with her on a more friendly and profitable basis.
    Thirdly, those revolutionary connections still sting, despite her current denial of them. They are notorious for their callous disregard for the lives of bystanders and their own members, but she only severed ties after it affected someone she knew intimately got hurt. Conversly, many of those who would support her sweeping social reforms would in fact be alienated by her rejection of the revolutionaries.
    Lastly, more than her 'honey well', the identity of it's guards would concern most of her NPC supporters I think. The mere fact Chuffy is a supporter would put many of London's more respectable people off, let alone being blood related. (Incidentally, I really liked that revel, as I felt it added interesting depth to both characters.)

    Ultimately though, I feel like she is losing because she seems to be the 'no fun' candidate, who is attacking many of the aspects people enjoy about the game, i.e. hedonistic revelry and Dickensian social structure. Feducci is winning because his platform apparently rewards the way the game is played and the arc players advance along, he is the big fun candidate so people overlook the frankly horrific things that one can discover about him. (Incidentally I think ID is closer to flawless and probably who is actually best for London, but my main is a self serving hedonist, so guess where his vote is going)
    edited by Amsfield on 7/4/2017

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    Leon McCarran
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    7/4/2017
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    The Detective is a most respectable lady, for whom I have the greatest respect, but her plans for reform are better kept within the justice system, which they chiefly concern.

    On this I can very much agree. I supported the Detective originally, until I found out about her paranoia and this so-called "Grand Prosecution". Such a thing, if it could ever come to pass, could leave this city exposed and vulnerable. Also, her campaign and possible term is shaping up to be very rigid and unyielding. Any of us who have been here long can attest to the fact that an inflexible London is a broken London. I also must question her "logic" in inviting... those Three to London.

    So I jumped ship and looked at the other two. While the Campaigner falls in line with Jenny, who I supported last year, she doesn't know the city like Jenny does. I feel that she will be quickly overwhelmed by everything and start handing out bans left and right. That just leaves Fenducci. I will be honest and admit that my past, er, dealings with him have shown me that he is completely untrustworthy. Do not misunderstand, he's a bloody charming old fellow and I do rather like him, but I don't know why he's doing this. Maybe he is bored and thinks the Mayorship will be some new thrill or maybe he is acting for another. However, I'll throw my lot in with him. If only to be ready to intercept whatever strange secrets and happenings pass through Blythenhale.
    edited by Leon McCarran on 7/4/2017

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    Plynkes
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    6/26/2017
    Sister Lydia is there! She can talk! That is a nice touch. I wonder if other companions will make an appearance if I keep cycling the randomizer?

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    Raccoonajr
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    6/26/2017
    Oh, I'll miss Sinning Jenny. I liked how she always called me petal.
    And I've surprised myself by backing Feducci. I'm too fond of honey and wine for the Campaigner and too much of a master thief for the Detective. I've killed Feducci in several duels so I'm kind of fond of the fellow.

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    Luminen Walker
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    6/26/2017
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD


    The Campaigner has Tea. I don't believe any of the other candidates have promised beverages.

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    6/26/2017
    TeslaWalker wrote:
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

    The Campaigner has Tea. I don't believe any of the other candidates have promised beverages.

    I'll have you know the gents in blue are known for their coffee and donuts, thank you very much! wink

    The candidates aren't perfect this year, but I'll take magical cartography and legal reckonings any day.

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    Corvo
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    6/26/2017
    A bit late here, but I think I squealed a little bit in surprise when the Jenny and the last year candidates remembered who I backed, I particularly enjoyed the Contrarian's reaction when talking to him as a supporter of him in last years election (but then again, I might just be a sentimental fool :P). Anyways, like last year I choose Fixer as my campaign profession and cast my vote with Feducci,

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    Anne Auclair
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    Posts: 2221

    6/26/2017
    So Feducci fought with the Republicans in Hell's Revolution, is taking huge bribes from the Presbyterate (to the surprise of no one), and his campaign manager is a Devil. It's kind of funny and very appropriate that he's using actual red flags for his standard.

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    Estelle Knoht
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    Posts: 1751

    6/28/2017
    Plynkes wrote:

    I don't want to know about how worthy, noble or progressive candidates are, I want to learn interesting, quirky and funny things about them. I want to be entertained.



    Mind, I didn't pick a candidate this year until I saw the investigation results since they don't appeal to me in character anyway, but funnily enough, that's precisely why I don't want Feducci to win.

    The way I see it, Feducci is firmly rooted in plenty of Elder Continent content and that he will keep showing up and getting development anyway.

    The other two candidates have very narrow focus in their previous appearences, and is either planning an ominous inquisition purge thing against law enforcement (Detective) or drugging Mr Eaten with honey (Campaigner), both of which makes for better trainwrecks than Feducci's insider trading and embezzling.

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    LillianAranach
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    Posts: 45

    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    And for all of his heroic acts against the aristocracy of hell, he seems to be very thick buddies with the devils of London...


    Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.

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    Captain Blood Storm
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    Posts: 572

    6/28/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    I can't put my finger on it, but Feducci's shady character and vague but over-the-top promises really remind me of someone...

    Feducci:
    "When I win there will be so much winning, believe me, a really tremendous amount of winning. There will be so much winning that you will get so tired of winning and be like 'Feducci, can we win a little less?' I know how unfair the world is because I've cheated and schemed my whole life and because of that you can trust me to fix everything. I make the best gambles, believe me, and I'll make really good gambles for our city. So. Much. Winning."
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    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017



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    Captain Blood Storm
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    6/27/2017
    Kylestien wrote:
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    dariuseng wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:

    Feducci is a spy for the Presbyterate who is also allied with Hell. He is receiving cash bribes from the Presbyterate and his campaign manager is a Devil. His platform calls for a culling of legal and class restrictions in order to let people rise and fall as ability and chance dictate (among the restrictions he wants to remove are liquor licenses).

    I am very, very skeptical that Feducci has the best interests of London at heart or that his platform is wholly sincere. This is a man who challenges people to duels to the death while being pretty much immortal, has a history of leading those who follow him to destruction (his Hallowmas confession), and is, again, on the Presbyters payroll.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017


    Oh please, like the Campaigners revolutionary allies are any better. They wish for the collapse of all rules and law. And as for the duels to the death, last I checked his lances weren't tipped with Cantigaster venom and he doesn't chop up the body, so his opponents are free to return if they desire

    They're not her "Revolutionary Allies", they're trying to get her to repay them for a debt.
    The DTC used to be close friends with the previous March of the Calendar Council, a March that for all intents and purposes was mellow and nice and got killed for not being as much of a die-hard revolutionary as the rest.

    The Anarchists are indeed trying to pressure our Temperance Campaigner, but don't think they're *allied* with her.


    I feel it important to note here that that is exactly how the Contrarian started. Then they took over the entire thing. Granted with the DTC at the helm that will be harder, but nonetheless.



  • Honestly, the main reason I'm voting for Feducci is because while he may or may not be a backstabbing adrenaline junkie of a hypocrite, so far he seems to be the ONLY candidate not allied with those celestialcide obsessed madmen.

    Better to ambiguously associate with Hell/Stone's pets, than mob rule in the Liberation.

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    Vishiyra
    Vishiyra
    Posts: 3

    6/27/2017
    Beware! The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner claims that she means to help the poor and the downtrodden of London, and yet she plans to restrict their most basic right of ownership--the ownership of their own souls! Every sapient being in London, no matter their antecedents, is born with a soul all their own which they and only they may choose to keep or sell. Who is the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner to take away this fundamental right?

    Some may sell their souls to save their lives, or to soothe the pain of their broken hearts, or simply for a change in existence. Soul-selling can be the last hope of the desperate orphan starving in the alleyways of the Flit.

    People of London, don't let the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner steal your choices.

    Vote for Feducci and YOU retain the exclusive right to choose the fate of your soul.
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    Hubris Glamore
    Hubris Glamore
    Posts: 49

    6/27/2017
    Well the curtain is coming down on my old friend Jenny and I need a new horse to back for the coming political year. Who do we have in the running?

    Ah dear old DTC, your idealism is refreshing in this city. But the problem with someone in power who intends to act in what they believe is in your best interests is that you cannot hope to reason with them to the contrary. If they're doing this for your own good, why would you be able to dissuade them? I do appreciate the push for more tea on the market though. Tea is lovely. I would miss my wine and honey though. It's a handy asset and an occasionally enjoyment. No, I'd rather not have my freedoms curtailed there. Although I have to confess I'd be interested to see a honey-well constructed if only to experiment with it.

    Then there's my old friend Feducci who I trust to honour debts and participate in any promising bloodbath while profiting and not a inch further. He's a fascinating associate and rival with a past so chequered you could play a truly interesting game of chess upon it with a dozen players. But his idea of fairness is to simply to dump everyone in the ring and let the strongest crush the others, for what truer fairness is there to the bandaged prince of death is there than death delivered to the weak by the strong? Certainly I know a few stuffed shirts who could stand to be dragged down a few pegs, but the frail, the elderly and the sick? Feducci's programme of fairness is darwinism dressed in good PR and nothing more. On his backers I won't comment. We all have debts to pay and I doubt even he is free of those commitments.

    Which leaves me option 3.

    The Implacable Detective is a clever colleague in the search for truth and secrets, an old friend on the force, a fellow scholar of the Dilmun Club and occasionally she'll attempt to arrest me if I've been a little too brazen in my own endevours. It's a delightful little diversion. She recognises the value of friends in low places, best noted by the chess games she plays with a certain publican it would not be in my best interests to identify. Heavens know we have a crime problem though granted, plenty of those crims are carrying badges but that's neither here or there. What does interest me is that my old associate is as inscrutable as ever. All her accounts are in order, with the single glaring anomaly being all the budgeting she's investing in her plans for a Grand Prosecution. This is a bigger move than simply beefing up the Constabulary. The target here is clearly much more powerful than the sort of people who would run afoul of the Velocipede Squad (That is, practically everyone who isn't on the velocipede squad, but mostly the poor). Whose prosecution could she possibly need to invest such resources in? Criminal kingpins such as the Cheery Man, the Gracious Widow, the Topsy King or Feducci? Possible, but unlikely. The Masters? Also unlikely, she'd have observed Jenny's hamstrung reign there. I'm more inclined to suspect her to make a move against someone like our own dear enduring Empress. Untouchable by most channels, yes, but not untouchable to the level of the Masters. That I would be interested to see. The Detective plays the long game well and I doubt we'll see the target of her ire until all her pieces are in place. Until such time I expect she'll remain inscrutable as ever.

    Inscrutability or no though, DTC and Feducci would both offer beneficial changes, but the strings attached to those are a little too unpleasant to secure my support. This of course therefore brings me to...

    The Only Logical Conclusion.

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    There was an old chap well-bandaged,
    He fought fair in a game of advantage,
    Beyond recognition,
    He grants all addiction,
    Feducci will win by chantage.

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    Pnakotic
    Pnakotic
    Posts: 282

    6/26/2017
    Oh hell, do I really have to choose between my love of tea, love of swordplay, and love of a good mystery?

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    Amaranth the Liar
    Amaranth the Liar
    Posts: 6

    6/27/2017
    I fail to see how any Londoner in his right mind could side with a stern, stern detective, or that sour-faced Temperance Campaigner. Are we not drowning in taxes and regulations already? Are the Constables and agents of the law not meddling in our lives enough? Not to mention how stratified our community has become. Enough of that, I say!

    By supporting Feducci, we will be one step closer to granting society a more egalitarian and accepting environment. By Joshua, we have ladies and gentlemen here with the faces of squid! How could we be so intolerant? We must remedy that immediately, and our bandaged friend is sure to help us in that matter.

    I have personally met with Feducci on several occasions, and although mysterious, he surely is a man with a sense of justice and fairness. Although I very much appreciate the rule of the Masters, I believe the less entanglements with law, the better off London will be. I shall be campaigning for him, and anyone who wishes to contribute towards his election can feel free to contact me. All support in this regard is very much appreciated.

    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.

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    BlabberingMat
    BlabberingMat
    Posts: 385

    6/26/2017
    Awww, I like that she remembers who we voted for last year. It is also really bittersweet piece of text...

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    Fadewalker
    Fadewalker
    Posts: 136

    6/26/2017
    Three new items this year,
    [spoiler]
    you get the first for free and further for 30 fate.
    Epicurean War-Helm: Hat, Feducci only, +8 Dangerous, +1 Dreaded;
    Corinthian Belfry Hat: Hat, Detective only,, +8 Shadowy, +1 Bizarre;
    Indignant Bearskin: Hat, DTC only, +8 Persuasive, +1 Respectable.


    Last year:
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22610-new-festival-election.aspx#post151410
    [/spoiler]
    edited by Fadewalker on 6/26/2017

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    Absintheuse
    Absintheuse
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    Posts: 348

    6/26/2017
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    What is the purpose of Influence over Election?


    A player's vote is counted by combining their Election career level, Notability, and Influencing the Election quality, so the more you have, the more votes go toward your chosen candidate
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/3/2017
    I think, given the FL fanbase, that being a Mary Sue is actually a significant disadvantage in this setting. Insofar as many people have a lot of fun with the "ooh, cartoon evil!" parts of the setting.

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    hellaGumshoe
    hellaGumshoe
    Posts: 76

    7/3/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Has anyone changed loyalties because of the new info, and why? (*Takes notes*)



    I'd like to say that I've officially changed sides, from Detective to the Dauntless. I had something of a difficult time choosing between them at the beginning, and Jenny's support plus Dauntless denouncing the revolutionaries in her updated Flash Lay was enough to convince me to switch sides.

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    Trilby
    Trilby
    Posts: 290

    7/7/2017
    Edward Warren wrote:
    Ladies and Gentlemen, we are faced a difficult dilemma in this election. All of us can agree, we must pick the candidate who can do the most good for London. But we must also pick the one who can bring about the changes that will last the LONGEST.

    As sad as it is to admit, Our Fair City has fallen far from the greatness of old, and I don't just mean figuratively. Crime, poverty, and the moral degradation of society are all crucial issues to tackle. However, consider this: for all the power the Mayor of London holds, he/she will only be in office for a year. Should we not approach this dilemma in a sensible way, reforming our city will prove a Sisyphean task, one that can never be completed.

    The Campaigner and the Detective both face uphill struggles, facing a myriad of organizations and institutions who will no doubt vehemently resist their efforts to bring about their reforms. And that does not even begin to factor in the power of the Masters, who both enjoy the honey trade and the corruption of government officials. How much will they be able to actually do for London, bogged down by a constant struggle against the considerable forces arrayed against them? Even if by miraculous chance they manage to enact their reforms near the end of the year, they will soon be gone anyway. And then it will be a simple matter for the powers that be to reverse these changes, loosen restrictions, and reinstate certain corrupt parties.

    We must come to terms with a rather sad fact: neither the Campaigner nor the Detective's goals will do much of anything to improve the lives of the downtrodden in any meaningful capacity. It is sad but true. Their intentions are pure, but less honey in the dens and fewer judges on the benches will do little to impact the lives of the downtrodden everyman. If they had more time, perhaps we'd see some benefit in the long run, but time is sadly a luxury we sorely lack.

    However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.

    Where his opponents stand to face a lengthy legal battle, Feducci offers the people of London the chance to elevate themselves now. A chain that can be climbed by all! Where fortunes, wealth, and a better standard of living can be won by all people willing to seek them. By the time Feducci's term ends, who knows how many of London's corrupt elites will be in the gutter, how many good and decent people who never had the chance to prosper will have newfound fortune?

    Citizens, I implore you to choose the candidate who's plan will touch the most lives! The plan that gives the people the fair chance they need right now! For a better London, for a Fair London, I implore you!

    VOTE FEDUCCI!


    If I didn't know better, I'd almost think your implying Mr Irons would be upset seeing the navy's officials cleaned of the New Sequence's influence.
    Or having our enforcers of the law be cleared of internal criminal and revolutionary elements, thus enhancing their efficiency and credibility.
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    phryne
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    6/30/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    My campaigner has developed a Blackwings Absinthe habit while campaigning for temperance
    See? That's what temperance does to you! :P

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    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/30/2017
    phryne wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    My campaigner has developed a Blackwings Absinthe habit while campaigning for temperance
    See? That's what temperance does to you! :P

    It feels kinda awesome ^_^ Yay temperance!

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    Alysian
    Alysian
    Posts: 57

    6/30/2017
    I am loving this election season so far but it makes me feel just a little guilty that as a Campaigner my response to a kind stranger Fixing my menaces is to turn around and rattle a cup at them for donations; I feel an obligation to apologize in my response to their Fix before even sending my solicitation. I know in the big picture we are all working towards the same goal, but it does make me feel awkward.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    7/2/2017
    Trilby wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    phryne wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    My campaigner has developed a Blackwings Absinthe habit while campaigning for temperance
    See? That's what temperance does to you! :P

    It feels kinda awesome ^_^ Yay temperance!


    Compleatly unrelated topic;

    If it's completely unrelated, then it probably doesn't belong in the election thread. This isn't a thread where we discuss changes to regular game mechanics. It's a thread were we talk about election mechanics and content.
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    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/2/2017

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    7/1/2017
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I will definitely agree that if I had to pick a candidate to beat up somebody else on my behalf, it'd be Feducci.

    Pretty sure that's something everyone can agree on, whether or not they want him for mayor.

    I'd rather go for the Bishop of Southwark, that man could wrestle Mt. Nomad and come out on top.

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    Isaac Zienfried
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    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    I've seen few if any Feducci supporters who seemed to actually believe that his idea of a society where you can literally gamble for your social status (as per the opportunity card snippet) would be in any way executable.

    And fewer still who think he'll stand by it, or mean anything he says.

    Why do people think Feducci is even remotely trustworthy and will do anything he says?

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Posts: 577

    6/29/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    MidnightVoyager wrote:
    So I'm not the only one subtly reminded of the King in Yellow with Fixer, am I? I'm a Repairer of Reputations!

    The King in Yellow?

    It's been a while since I've read it, but The King in Yellow is a short story series about a play by the same name that leads readers of its script into maddening revelations of a deity-like godking. In one of these stories, The Repairer of Reputations, a man named Mr Wilde uses a spycraft system of blackmail and influence to manipulate mass coverups to save the reputations of the famous and powerful from scandal.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/29/2017

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    7/3/2017
    The only character of mine considering changing candidate is Jack. He's with the Detective right now, as a strict 'Licentiate' adhering to judicial executions. Totally above board.. probably. (He's doing a Dexter)

    But Ms Dauntless has taken up with Clay men and Rubberies now, and she's got some brass on her to step up to her own fights like she did. Commendable.

    Plus.. she seems to have a place for honey and larks after all. Albeit a dimly lit subterranean place for it. Perhaps she will compromise on vices if it's kept behind closed doors. Cellar doors. So that polite society marches on; in denial perhaps, but relatively fenced off from unfortunate habits.

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    edited by Shalinoth on 7/3/2017

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    7/3/2017
    Fair points on the Dauntless lack of flaws.
    The Depthless Temperance Campaigner! ..I jest.

    But to be fair when your entire platform is Prim and Proper you don't go into it with skeletons in the closet? The Clays and Rubberies don't have skeletons either, so they have that in common. While she has spine enough for all of them, mind you, when challenged.

    I'm keeping my three characters voting for three separate candidates anyway, I think.

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    Diptych
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    Posts: 3843

    7/3/2017
    The concept of "Mary Sues" is an interesting one, and one I'd happily discuss elsewhere, but I will point out that, last year, the only skeleton to emerge from the Bishop's closet was the dubious attribution of some love poems.

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    Sam Stephens
    Sam Stephens
    Posts: 73

    6/26/2017
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

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    GoingFTL
    GoingFTL
    Posts: 114

    6/26/2017
    I'm supporting Dauntless. Sure, she hates us, but she looks to be the best option, to continue last year's trend of helping the poor. Feducci may promise change, but remember his loyalties.
    Edit: Misread.
    edited by GoingFTL on 6/26/2017
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    Akernis
    Akernis
    Posts: 265

    6/26/2017
    GoingFTL wrote:
    Dauntless has the Watchful boots. Sure, she hates us, but she looks to be the best option, to continue last year's trend of helping the poor. Feducci may promise change, but remember his loyalties.

    No, she doesn't. The boots are linked to the Campaigner career, not to any of the candidates.

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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    6/26/2017
    Fate. Fate will cure what ails you.

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    Rostygold
    Rostygold
    Posts: 682

    6/26/2017
    Spitfire Youngster wrote:
    We get one uptight society lady, one Constabulary boot licker, and an undead killer.

    I say, let's get killing.


    The undead killer is also a spy, makes deals with devils, and is pretty much a cheat at his own death-duel game.
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    6/27/2017
    narcomanic wrote:
    Having the same problem. Though I'm not sure why accepting must be done through another social action and not simply clicking to accept the help.

    This is part of the recent upgrade to social actions (and how menace help requests/offers, calling cards, patron/protege etc. interactions work).

    This has at least a couple of distinct advantages:
    • There are more varied options than just Accept/Decline. Currently, there are usually 2 different ways to accept (with different results) and an option to decline.
    • This gives the option (long requested by the community) of sending back a reply message, whether you accept the social action or decline it.
    However, the implementation is still a bit buggy at times. And this can result with you having a message in your queue which you can do nothing with, not even decline it (because even to decline you have to choose the target of your social action, and if the qualities of either of you aren't what they should be your friend won't be eligible).

    In any such case, I'd recommend to send the details (including your character's name) to support@failbettergames.com. This is the only way for FBG to track and ultimately fix such issues.

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    Pnakotic
    Pnakotic
    Posts: 282

    6/27/2017
    ..."honey-well"?

    Ohhh... this can only end badly.

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    Azreal DuCain
    Azreal DuCain
    Posts: 19

    6/27/2017
    As a Fervent Campaigner I would like to say a few words about our candidates.

    Firstly, I'm sad to see Jenny go. I didn't vote for her, it's true. During the last election I voted for my favorite debate partner, who I sometimes don't want to push down the stairs in frustration: The Jovial Contrarian. Even so I have found Jenny has done her best to make the city a better place than it was before using the time and resources she had available. I hope that whoever wins this election shall do the same to the best of their ability.

    Secondly, I should like to say that I don't like or trust ANY of the candidates this year but I may as well vote for someone. So I'm voting for the detective.



    Feducci: Legalize everything. EVERYTHING.
    Temperance Campaigner: Ban everything. EVERYTHING.
    Implacable Detective: Investigate everything. EVERYTHING.




    Maybe the detective might have half a crack at tackling police corruption, eh? We can hope, at least. The Temperance Lass doesn't seem concerned about that and Feducci, fun-loving guy though he may be, dear friend of my heart he is for certain, is NOT. HELPING. A significant portion of the suffering in London could be alleviated with a competent, trustworthy, and impartial police force. Instead we have a force split in two and serving two different masters, neither of them Justice. Law enforcement in this city takes orders from only two places: Society and their own wallets. They investigate crimes on behalf of anyone else with only the most sluggish reluctance. The "Special Constables" aren't even real cops. They are simply an extension of the "Ministry of Public Decency", the organization openly acting as the private thieves guild of Mr. Pages.
    The Temperance Lass wouldn't need to be quite so dauntless if the cops gave a damn and did their jobs right. Competent cops are hard to find in this city and honest cops are even rarer. It's no wonder so many citizens turn to crime when the only difference between most cops and the criminals they pursue is that the gangs known as "The Coppers", "The Pennies", and "The Constables" have badges.


    With the increased police spending the Implacable Detective is promising perhaps we shall see some long overdue reforms. We can certainly hope.
    edited by Azreal DuCain on 6/27/2017

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    Pyar
    Pyar
    Posts: 4

    6/27/2017
    The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is campaigning for **Temperance**. THAT MEANS NO DRINKING. Ludicrous. I fail to see how anyone can take her campaign seriously.

    Between the other two, well the last constable I was close with was, well the Last Constable. And maybe Feducci's goals of fairness would apply to my poor, abused Rubbery love.

    So I'm throwing my hat in with Feducci. If any of his supports run into trouble and need something fixed, please let me help.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/26/2017
    TeslaWalker wrote:
    MartzelDePamplona wrote:
    [I started with The Campaigner. Then in checking deeper into her campaign, I found that she had close ties to the Anarchists. Anyone who is willing to help with the Liberation of the Night gets a hard pass from me. We'll see what dirty secrets I can dig up on the other two and then I'll decide which one I'm going to give my vote to.


    It isn't close ties to anarchists, it's anarchists squatting on old connections. I doubt she's the LoN candidate with her being the church candidate.

    Some old ties make sense. Wasn't March her brother? Or at the least a very dear friend? Given that the Calendar Council murdered March for being insufficiently dedicated to the LoN, I doubt Campaigner's all that keen on them. But March's old friends might be keen on her.

    btw, Sinning Jenny's Finishing School does not have an election related card upset
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/26/2017

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    Sam Stephens
    Sam Stephens
    Posts: 73

    6/26/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

    Naturally, I'd invite you to join the cause of the Temperance Campaign, being as I have sided with our dignified lady.
    If you're not familiar with the Temperance movement in the 19th century, it had strong ties to Women's Suffrage (equality) and Animal Rights, so it's not only helping the poor, it's helping everyone who's finding himself at a disadvantage for being born different in our beautiful little London.

    If you find yourself on our side of the fray, be sure to hit up our donations page, we have some fixers who'd be more than pleased to offer you some scandal and suspicon cures, and plenty are willing to donate if you happen to be a campaigner.



    I wasn't aware of that, thanks! You learn something new every day. Temperance worked out a bit differently in America. Organized crime thrived during the Prohibition, since alcohol was an easy way to fund their other operations. But that's not here or there. Thanks for the info! I just chose the Campaigner as my candidate. I'm a Fixer, same as last year, so I'll be helping you all from the shadows. wink

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/26/2017
    And if that card has tea, I will consider the short stories and money and all my favours in high places well spent.

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    SirKwint
    SirKwint
    Posts: 48

    6/26/2017
    And I continue to wonder, my dearest fellow Londoners - will we ever see a Master on a campaign for a Mayor.
    Yes, they are not into politics. But definitely into money and power smile

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    Curiosity killed a lot of cats. And counting...
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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 859

    6/27/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    From the text in Hastings Square: "..several constables are attempting to find a good rhyme for the Implacable Detective."

    Let's have a try...

    There once was an Implacable Detective,
    Whose casing-solving mode was defective,
    She made false accusations,
    At folks of all stations,
    And so garnered not votes but invective.

    Rather feeble, but it's a long time since I was a poet in Veilgarden, and I'm out of honey. smile


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    Ark Gavrilov
    Ark Gavrilov
    Posts: 1

    6/27/2017
    Go for Feducci. Either nothing really changes after he wins, or there will be definitely much more fun in the game )))
    I'm open for giving/receiving donations and other activities.

    Yours,
    Ark G
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    æsc
    æsc
    Posts: 76

    6/27/2017
    There are good and bad reasons for all of them! Cecily cannot quite bring herself to vote for DTC, after having her reputation so thoroughly abused by her for so many years. Also, while supporting wholeheartedly the continuation of Jenny's work on behalf of the poor, she also feels that true scholarship often seems to require honey.

    The Detective is a useful ally, but narrow-minded and wants to give more power to the police, who already are a rather corrupt problem in London.

    Which leaves Feducci, who is probably a bad idea. But he's an old friend, and part of us cannot help but want to press the shiny button to see what happens. Scholarship also requires risk. After all, do we not read the Correspondence even though we may lose our eyebrows? So while it is not a wholehearted endorsement, we have decided to throw in with the not-a-tomb-colonist.

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    Kylestien
    Kylestien
    Posts: 766

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:
    I feel it important to note here that that is exactly how the Contrarian started. Then they took over the entire thing. Granted with the DTC at the helm that will be harder, but nonetheless.

    They didn't take over, they were always part of the Contrarian's campaign...because the Contrarian is a member of the Calendar Council :P


    The Contrariant was thoughly against them taking over, which is rare for a man who goes back and forwards on everything.

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    dariuseng
    dariuseng
    Posts: 8

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    In a lot of ways one might say that the Campaigner is fighting to expand Jenny's legacy of modest reform into something far more expansive.



    And yet I see no mention of the urchins or the rubbery men. Do they not deserve the help and freedom the Campaigner promises others.

    Feducci does not distinguish between race or birth, he promises everyone the chance to rise to new heights.

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    Gul al-Ahlaam
    Gul al-Ahlaam
    Posts: 238

    6/28/2017
    Except Feducci is brilliant, and shrewd, and has the capacity to, among other things, open trade with the Presbyterate. Even if he did nothing else, that alone would be more than worth electing him, in my opinion. They've got so many resources, so much advanced technology, such an extraordinarily developed and sophisticated culture, that it would be foolish not to get as much as we can from such an arrangement.


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    Philip Wolf
    Philip Wolf
    Posts: 33

    6/28/2017
    My problem with the investigator is that if she does win and get in power, well, there's a saying about absolute power. Don't get me wrong, this does apply to the other candidates, but someone fighting corruption and getting corrupted? Seems like an old story to me. Also, the Campaigner has a habit of throwing aside the things that trouble her. (honey-well). I like what she says, but not what she does.

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    Zack Oak
    Zack Oak
    Posts: 205

    6/28/2017
    Tintinnabulum wrote:
    Zack Oak wrote:
    On top of that, its menace reduction is three steps. Send, accept, act. It's more complicated and less efficient than normal menace reducing social actions

    Wait, that's how it's supposed to work? I received a message and clicked Respond, and on the response page the acceptance led to the invite-a-contact page (on which the original sender wasn't an option). Should it have? If so that seems weird and clunky.


    Fixers advancing their influence level is like a rube goldberg machine, man. I'm still figuring it out. If I can understand it correctly, it goes like this:
    Step 1: Fixer finds a fellow supporter who has suspicion or menace. Sends them a request to reduce their menace.
    Step 2: Recipient agrees or declines. Fixer gains a quality that allows them to proceed to step 3
    Step 3: Fixer begins a storylet to get 7 "correcting a suspicious record" or "Correcting a scandalous record."
    Step 4: Fixer turns their "correcting" quality into "a reputation for fixing things"
    Step 5: If a Fixer's "a reputation for fixing things" quality is twice their influence, they may increase their influence. Otherwise, repeat steps 2-4 until it is.
    It's ludicrously complicated and a complete action sink. I gave up and went to campaigner, where I only need three steps of action and helpful friends for the process.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/28/2017
    I'd say most of the people who are into Fallen London support their candidate for some combination of In-Character and Out-Of-Character reasons. There are no doubt some who choose based entirely on OOC desires, just as there are those who RP *everything.* Let's not waste time categorizing each other - there's an election to fight!

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Pnakotic wrote:

    How is supporting a candidate pledged to improving class mobility "detachment from the setting"? Bit of a strawman, isn't that?

    You misunderstand, I wasn't strawmanning anyone, I was just making a (mostly correct) analysis that many Feducci Supporters -at least the ones active on the forums- seem to support him from a less political and more adventurous point of view.

    I've seen few if any Feducci supporters who seemed to actually believe that his idea of a society where you can literally gamble for your social status (as per the opportunity card snippet) would be in any way executable.

    Having an adventurous point of view can be completely In-Character. Lots of people vote for candidates because they're flashy or have a famous name or will make things a bit more interesting. Napoleon III became President of France, then Emperor, partly due to his celebrity. So, it's not detachment from the setting, it's not caring within the setting.

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    Lady Sapho Byron
    Lady Sapho Byron
    Posts: 806

    6/28/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Hell, we have three "bribe me" threads currently - so there are definitely players who want to be bribed :P


    I wonder how many of the bribe-ees will hold up there end of the bargain?



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    Zack Oak
    Zack Oak
    Posts: 205

    6/28/2017
    I'm not going to lie, I'm not having fun with being a fixer. Its sole purpose of menace reduction requires the person doing the cures of one of two menaces to reach out, meaning players with a need will be bombarded with requests from me and others, rather than the menaced player being able to ask for help when they need or want it. On top of that, its menace reduction is three steps. Send, accept, act. It's more complicated and less efficient than normal menace reducing social actions, making it easily the worst out of all three campaign professions. I don't see a point to playing one, and really wish I'd chosen campaigner so I could keep my progress and have enjoyed the content for the festival.
    edited by ZackOak on 6/28/2017

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    Dudebro Pyro
    Dudebro Pyro
    Posts: 765

    6/28/2017
    Corvo wrote:
    Ah, I see, and there's a better way to grind Fixer than doing Flash lays and Investigations this year? Or am I just misunderstanding? I mean, doing both is a bit time consuming but not that bothersome, but I'd still pick an easier, more efficient, way if there was on.

    Nope, as far as I'm aware you have to do both. What I meant is that this year everyone is so annoyed with the Influence grinding for fixers that good old career advancement isn't really talked about.

    Also by doing both (and getting spare Public Attentions) you really get a lot of Making Waves when trading them in. Whereas the other two professions can spend less effort on their career, but even if they decide to grind more they don't get a similar reward - they can only trade in their excess election resources for some moderately valuable items.
    edited by Dudebro Pyro on 6/28/2017

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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    6/28/2017
    Ylem wrote:
    Can someone confirm that the only things you can do at the ball are: Mingle/leave, Speak to Jenny, Praise Jenny, Speak to the Bishop, Speak to the Contrarian? Unless you have Lydia, then I know she's an option for something.


    Lydia's the comedy option, but yes, that should be all.

    Allegedly if you have an election companion from last year they might pipe up. Allegedly.

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    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/28/2017
    I just noticed in a donation of booze I made to the cause.. the DTC gang are making a game of seeing how fast they can pour alcohol down the gutters. Perhaps the anarchists will set fire to the sewers and party in the intoxicating fumes? Or maybe some terrible gutter-monster will come drunkenly to the surface, hah.

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    Diptych
    Diptych
    Administrator
    Posts: 3843

    6/28/2017
    Zack Oak wrote:
    Don't they murder everyone who reaches a hundred years of age?


    A thousand. A hundred-year-limit's an exceptional punishment for the families of certain lawbreakers.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/27/2017
    Corvo wrote:
    QUick question people, is there anyone here that during last years election's changed candidate? And, if so, did the interaction with the candidates in Sinning Jenny's farewell ball changed or not? Like, say, did the Bishop have any different liens if you started as a supporter of him then switched to the Contrarian/Jenny? Sorry for the random question, the thought just popped into my mind and I was wondering if Failbetter paid attention to that little detail, seeing as they had the former candidates remember if your character backed them or not.

    I switched briefly to the Contrarian to get the Reactionary Tomb Colonist - and I foolishly did it only after I had gotten a substantial amount of election career :P The Bishop and Contrarian conversations weren't any different.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/28/2017
    Akernis wrote:
    LillianAranach wrote:
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    And for all of his heroic acts against the aristocracy of hell, he seems to be very thick buddies with the devils of London...


    Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.

    Indeed, even amongst devils he helps the little guy stand up against tyranny.

    Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat!

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    Akernis
    Akernis
    Posts: 265

    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat!

    Don't worry, I am well aware of how ridiculous such an argument is. It was mostly for fun.
    One might as well have countered with 'only amongst the devils does he help the little guy', or point out that there really is no innocence at play at all when dealing with the politics of Hell.
    And while I do think that the devils we have now are the lesser evil compared to their monstrous princes and princesses*, they are still devils. But that is irrelevant to the election at hand.

    *Of course, me being my nefarious self just means that makes me want to meet and work with them all the more.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/28/2017
    Akernis wrote:
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat!

    Don't worry, I am well aware of how ridiculous such an argument is. It was mostly for fun.
    One might as well have countered with 'only amongst the devils does he help the little guy', or point out that there really is no innocence at play at all when dealing with the politics of Hell.
    And while I do think that the devils we have now are the lesser evil compared to their monstrous princes and princesses*, they are still devils. But that is irrelevant to the election at hand.

    *Of course, me being my nefarious self just means that makes me want to meet and work with them all the more.

    I get it, though.

    Feducci's supporters are primarily players who feel a fairly large degree of detachment with their characters or the actual setting, so they pick the option that's most likely to amuse them and stir up things. Either that, or their player characters are so powerful already that they'll only really be able to benefit from Feducci's victory.

    As a DTC supporter, I'm just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I'd personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that's been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I'm putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I'm doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I've written everything but the name-list myself).

    I think I'm getting too carried away at times, I absolutely love campaigning but I'm making it more of a hot-button issue than it is.

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    Louvelune
    Louvelune
    Posts: 6

    6/28/2017
    I LOVE the choice of candidates this year.

    Sinning Jenny had no serious contender because she won over both social-minded and badassery-enclined citizens. No one else could outweigh the combined force of the do-gooders and the self-serving lawless!

    ... And so now, we get to set the two groups *against* each other. Let's see who shouts the loudest. <3

    I threw my support behind the Detective, after a long hard thinking, because I figure if either of the two others win, they won't care whether I supported them or not; she might be cross!
    Also, her plan to investigate the authorities might be foolish, but no more than "let's take down all the oppressors" the two others are promising. And if anyone has a shot at actually getting *some* of their grand plan to fruition, it's her and no one else (assuming Feducci's plan isn't to just wreck havoc of course), I think.

    But unlike last year, I'm LOVING this season and I don't think I'll mind any of the three getting to power, it'll be a fascinating year anyway this plays out... \m/
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    Pnakotic
    Pnakotic
    Posts: 282

    6/27/2017
    IHNIWTR wrote:
    I can't believe I'm supporting the campaigner, but there you have it

    the explanatory text on her card absolutely won me over

    [spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.

    "I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]

    I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day


    Ah, but don't you know the old saying? "Put a roof over a man and you've housed him today; subject a man to brutal policing and the rest of his life... well *ahem* perhaps it's just better we discuss something more up lifting than poverty..

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    Vinai Vinri
    Vinai Vinri
    Posts: 1

    6/27/2017
    Plynkes wrote:
    Sister Lydia is there! She can talk! That is a nice touch. I wonder if other companions will make an appearance if I keep cycling the randomizer?


    BlabberingMat wrote:
    I am still mingling XD. Partly because I am waiting for good people here on forums to gather list of items that can be chosen. I don't wanna miss out on something like boots last year



    Aw, I already left. I was hoping there would be more, but I guess I didn't have the patience to keep cycling through to check for some thing new. (I'm also really tired and wasn't thinking... I assumed there was nothing more after a few rounds. I mean, actions points weren't used up so why didn't I?! Ha, I suppose I should restrain from voting for a while. Maybe even choosing a career).

    Huh. This is just me throwing in some thoughts, nothing important, meh. Have a nice day. (This is actually my first post, so I'm a little more awkward and confused than I normally am.... also wishing forums had strike through. ..and small font, but oh well)

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/27/2017
    Pnakotic wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Rostygold wrote:
    The kicker here is that, for all of you people's arguments in the threads for the candidates, whoever wins, his/her term would not be any more impactful than Jenny's.

    The most that might be obtained from any winner is a premium story accessible only to paying players, and a card that everyone gets.

    Well, at the minimum there will be:

    1. A free story staring the Mayor at a future festival (last year it was the Festival of the Zee).
    2. The Mayoral influence card.
    3. A premium story for a modest fate price that leaves you and London with something permanent.
    4. A special Christmas card, again purchased with fate.
    5. A special Hallowmas confession/Mr Huffam conversation.
    6. One last Mayoral event at the end of term that introduces the new candidates (in Jenny's case a ball).


    We also had the chance to interact with Jenny at the Fruits of the Sea festival, so that's another seasonal possibility.

    I had that listed under number 1...

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    Autonomous
    Autonomous
    Posts: 35

    6/27/2017
    IHNIWTR wrote:
    I can't believe I'm supporting the campaigner, but there you have it

    the explanatory text on her card absolutely won me over

    [spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.

    "I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]

    I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day



    Actually, the poor are pretty cool with Feducci.

    "Promises of a chain that can be climbed has sparked hope in London’s poor."

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    Amaranth the Liar
    Amaranth the Liar
    Posts: 6

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Feducci is a spy for the Presbyterate who is also allied with Hell. He is receiving cash bribes from the Presbyterate and his campaign manager is a Devil. His platform calls for a culling of legal and class restrictions in order to let people rise and fall as ability and chance dictate (among the restrictions he wants to remove are liquor licenses). I am very, very skeptical that he has the best interests of London at heart or that his platform is wholly sincere. This is a man who challenges people to duels to the death while being pretty much immortal, has a history of leading those who follow him to destruction (his Hallowmas confession), and is, again, on the Presbyters payroll.


    Baseless accusations!
    Anyone and everyone in the city is on someone's payroll, with no detriment to their personal honor and motives. Why try so futilely to tarnish the man's reputation with such proofless stains?
    Besides, you have said the words yourself: to let people rise and fall as ability dictates. Is this not what we should desire? That we may reach for the skies (or at the very least, the rather high-up ceiling we have here) on our own efforts, without the government to hinder us? All that the regulations have done is drown those far below, while the rich and powerful calmly sip their tea in the spires of the Bazaar and mansions in Veilgarden.

    Feducci fancies himself the spirit of change, and it is change we need. Not tea. Who better than a fighter to lead this?

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    Available for all sorts of social interactions and witty banter, if you're polite enough. Ask for clues and you'll be gifted riddles in return.

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    lady ciel
    lady ciel
    Posts: 2594

    6/27/2017
    My Panther would be very unhappy if I supported the Detective given her contacts with the Fingerkings.

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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 859

    6/27/2017
    I have a fondness for bearskins. Gets me all misty-eyed for that time a guardsman gave me a good seeing-to in his sentry-box outside the Shuttered Palace. So when I heard the tea-party were giving them away I popped into one of their shindigs, drank some of their tea (it was vile), heard them spout their nonsense for a bit and nodded like I was listening, and then made off with me free hat.

    Then I promptly went and signed up with another mob. Thanks, tea-baggers! You're not getting your hat back. I do love election season. So much opportunity for mischief and fun.
    edited by Plynkes on 6/27/2017

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    I agree Feducci should be the more outlandishly rewarding choice, in meta gaming for lore terms.

    Then again, the investigations, public inquiries and legal reforms that the Detective could enact might shake out some lore closer to home. She might also wind up being assassinated for it, which could lead to a snap election! Wouldn't that be fun? Imagine it, the Vake eats her whole in a fly-by one night, right after she began looking too closely at Masterful meddling in the judiciary.


    Ark Gavrilov wrote:
    Go for Feducci. Either nothing really changes after he wins, or there will be definitely much more fun in the game )))
    I'm open for giving/receiving donations and other activities.

    Yours,
    Ark G


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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    She's an ally of the Masters

    Reference?


    Anne Auclair wrote:
    a regular at Mr Wine's revels

    So is half of London. By the same token, since the DTC had dealing with the revolutionaries in the past, does this mean she's an ally of the Calendar Council?

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    From the text in Hastings Square: "..several constables are attempting to find a good rhyme for the Implacable Detective."

    The Implacable Detective,
    Her unflappable directive,
    Is to drain the swamp of the unelected!

    The Masters of Industry,
    Disasters of indignity,
    Pulling strings in judicial activity!


    [I don't actually support her but it thought I'd help those troubled constables out. The second verse is probably delivered via paid protesters or over-zealous campaigners, rather than her own thin blue line-up Big Grin].

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    Kylestien
    Kylestien
    Posts: 766

    6/27/2017
    There once was a Temperance Campaigner
    Who hired a loyal retainer
    With their aid honey fell
    Deep into a well
    But honestly who can blame er!

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    Arandia
    Arandia
    Posts: 127

    6/26/2017
    Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:

    I seem to be able to accept donation requests, but cannot use a Fixer's help.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/26/2017


    I have received several offers of help from Fixers, but I cannot accept them either. When I try to respond, the list of players to choose from is always empty and it won't let me add a name manually, either.

    Therefore, to all fixers who have sent me requests: I assume I am experiencing a glitch. Please bear with me until this is, er ... fixed.

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    Barse
    Barse
    Posts: 707

    6/26/2017
    As a reminder and semi-announcement, the Campaign posters are up for purchase on the Gametee website now, and they are lovely!

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    Luminen Walker
    Luminen Walker
    Posts: 172

    6/26/2017
    MartzelDePamplona wrote:
    [I started with The Campaigner. Then in checking deeper into her campaign, I found that she had close ties to the Anarchists. Anyone who is willing to help with the Liberation of the Night gets a hard pass from me. We'll see what dirty secrets I can dig up on the other two and then I'll decide which one I'm going to give my vote to.


    It isn't close ties to anarchists, it's anarchists squatting on old connections. I doubt she's the LoN candidate with her being the church candidate.

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    Edward Warren
    Edward Warren
    Posts: 120

    6/26/2017
    If you are an Agitator and you don't support Feducci, please speak up so my mob and I can violently harass you.

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    dariuseng
    dariuseng
    Posts: 8

    6/27/2017
    If any Feducci supporters need help with suspicion or scandal, I would be happy to help. Anything to make things a little more fair

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    Philip Wolf
    Philip Wolf
    Posts: 33

    6/27/2017
    I must say, The Campaigner doesn't seem the best choice. In my eyes she imposes what she thinks is good on people, but woe if she gets to the level of mayor. The Detective seems good enough, but if we investigate everything, when are we Going to help anything? While I admit that Feducci has flaws in his ideals, he might do his best to loosen the Masters grip on London. And that, I support. (Happy to Donate).

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    Chronos
    Chronos
    Posts: 135

    6/26/2017
    It seems my alt cannot choose a candidate

    EDIT: it's solved now.
    edited by Chronos on 6/26/2017

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    Diptych
    Diptych
    Administrator
    Posts: 3843

    6/26/2017
    Curious. According to "Learn more about the Candidates", Feducci and the Campaigner are both supported by Society and Criminals, differing only in their third faction, while the Detective is supported by the Constables alone.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/26/2017
    Boy, this surely has caused me to doubt my allegiance to the Temperance Campaigner. I kind of want to throw my lot in with the detective, now.

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    heavensdark
    heavensdark
    Posts: 60

    6/26/2017
    Is anyone else struggling with the game itself? I have had to refresh crashed pages multiple times just to back my candidate. I finally got a broken page telling me I backed my candidate. When I reloaded to the main page and attempted to begin my electoral duties as a fixer and it told me once more I had not backed a candidate yet. I can get cards and actions not election related to work properly but nothing related to the election itself.

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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    6/26/2017
    Don't forget, you can always grab the gift you want and switch side/career immediately to no detrimental effects! So don't let the choice of gifts affect who you work for or what you work as.

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    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3764

    6/26/2017
    The text for changing your candidate includes the bit about getting a free gift, even though changing candidates doesn't give one.

    The option text for purchasing the Seven-Times-Exiled Parliamentarian's Guide to Electioneering says "On the occasion of London's first Mayoral Election".


    Most heinously, joining the Implacable Detective's campaign said she gave me a business card, but I didn't get one! So rude of her.
    edited by Optimatum on 6/26/2017

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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/4/2017
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    last year, the only skeleton to emerge from the Bishop's closet was the dubious attribution of some love poems.

    Yes, but the election isn't the only time some info about him has come to light... not that such is really relevant.

    Leon McCarran wrote:
    I feel that she will be quickly overwhelmed by everything and start handing out bans left and right.

    The DTC doesn't seem like she gets overwhelmed that easily, though. She fended off a mob of anarchists single-handedly, after all.

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    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    7/3/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Don't take this the wrong way - I've been supporting her from the beginning and I will until the bitter end, but I kind of feel that Failbetter aren't giving the DTC the flaws and depths she deserves because they want her to catch up to the other two candidates.

    I've read her story this way: her flaws are also her virtues.

    Sometimes you have people who are just basically good - the Soft Hearted Widow is perhaps the best example. Such people exist in real life - I've met them.
    .
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    6/29/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    I thought I was somehow doing people a disservice to leave all those invites hanging, or worse, accept them only to lock the person into a perpetual limbo because the first-comer already reduced me to zero.


    You can't lock them into anything. It doesn't matter if your menace is already gone. It's only a requirement when they send the offer in the first place.

    The only &quotlimbo&quot is that if you accepted a Fixer's offer to help, other people can't accept offers from that same Fixer until they fulfill their task for you (4-5 actions).

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/3/2017
    I wish we had graphs.

    Like, solid numbers. Does Feducci have a fifty-point lead or a three point lead? What's the spread? Would a coalition even equal more than fifty percent?

    We're kind of in the dark about all this, which I imagine is deliberate for the sake of suspense.

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    SeveredJoke
    SeveredJoke
    Posts: 171

    7/3/2017
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    Until now, I've resisted offering my personal opinion on the candidates. Now that the election is entering its final week, I feel the time is right to share my views - speaking entirely in my unofficial capacity. I'm supporting the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. I strongly believe that the institution of government should serve those least able to advance their own cause - those who are vulnerable, and who are preyed upon by the greedy and heartless - and this is what the Campaigner pledges to do. Feducci may be a charming old rogue, but his talents are best kept the field of sports, rather than politics. The Detective is a most respectable lady, for whom I have the greatest respect, but her plans for reform are better kept within the justice system, which they chiefly concern. The Campaigner's platform is the best suited for the office of Mayor, and is, further, the one which speaks most to the reason and the conscience of any public-spirited Londoner. Thank you for your attention, and I hope I shall see you all at the voting booth come election day!


    I agree with this reasoning. The intervention of the Regretful Soldier has strengthened my opposition to Feducci and the DTC's spirited defence of her position reassures me she is the right choice. The detective's noble battle is one best fought without the constraints a formal political position would apply.

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    Edward Warren
    Edward Warren
    Posts: 120

    7/3/2017

    For shame, Madame Detective! Turning on one's own supporters in the middle of an election! For shame!

    Is this the behavior that we can expect from a ID administration distrust and disarray at the first sign of trouble? Does she even know the truth about those supporting her? One this is certain, this is not behavior suitable for the Mayor of London.

    A week has passed, and our Rightful Mayor Feducci has already begun the process of moving into his Mayoral office. London is well on its way towards a bright, Fair future!

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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/3/2017
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    I'm supporting the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.

    I want so badly to wave this around the forums, shouting "VAUNTED AND RESPECTED LONDONERS COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE CAMPAIGNER," but I feel that would be remarkably crass and entirely disrespectful to the point of that post.

    ...I'm still a little exuberant, though.

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    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    lady ciel
    lady ciel
    Posts: 2594

    7/3/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Is it better not to engage in Debates until you've already reached 10 Influence the other ways?




    Your influence doesn't automatically rise after a debate - you get winnings to spend in a storylet, and you probably won't get enough from one debate to raise influence. So I would say debate away and use the resources when you want.

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    kwogger
    kwogger
    Posts: 26

    7/7/2017
    In these waning days of the election, I am a supporter of the Campaigner and I'd be happy to talk at length with anyone up for some civilized debating.

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    MidnightVoyager
    MidnightVoyager
    Posts: 921

    7/9/2017
    I have had exactly one completed debate (it went bad, so it was short) and I am waiting on the final bit of my second. Alts are the only way I'm going to get anything done, seems like.

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    Isaac Zienfried
    Isaac Zienfried
    Posts: 364

    7/4/2017
    Amsfield wrote:
    Prohibition infamously failed IRL, most players and I suspect more characters are drinkers and it's obvious to everyone but her that Mr Wines will squash that.

    Temperance isn't prohibition, though. That's something we've had to make a slogan of our campaign. Although Wines may not care much for the difference...

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    A gentleman of complicated loyalties, complicated morality, and complicated goals.
    But really, it's hard to keep things simple down here!
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    Edward Warren
    Edward Warren
    Posts: 120

    6/29/2017
    Fellow citizens, when deciding who to vote for, please consider which candidate has the potential to bring about not just change, but lasting change.

    The new mayor will only be here for a year. After that a new mayor will rule London, free to reverse or build upon the previous mayor's legacy as he/she sees fit. Based on the policies of the other candidates, how can anyone other than Rightful Mayor Feducci bring about lasting change for the better?

    The Implacable Detective speaks of more power to police, and plots in secret for the prosecution of corrupt officials. How will she succeed in this, in a city where it's a rather poor kept secret that Parliament is in the pocket of Our Benefactors, the Masters of the Bazaar? Even if the case isn't immediately dismissed, it will certainly be drawn out beyond her term, where it will be almost assuredly quietly dropped. A sad fact of the world is there will always be crime, always be corrupt politicians. After the Campaigner is gone, the Bazaar will still be here, and so will the gangs. The smart crooks need only wait a year to return to their wicked ways.

    The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner intends to open more poorhouses and abolish cheap pleasures like honey and alcohol. Sinning Jenny spent the majority of her term building poorhouses and setting up programs for the disenfranchised. To vote for a candidate promising essentially the exact same thing rephrased is to admit either that Sinning Jenny either accomplished nothing or couldn't manage to do enough to tackle the issue, even with all the powers of the mayoral office. That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability to tack this issue, nor the urgency of tackling this issue.

    Banning cheap vices won't make the demand disappear, it will only drive it underground. Is it in the best interests of London to vote for a year where the only suppliers of alcohol are parts of the criminal underground? A criminal underground that will then be able to charge whatever it wants for what is currently popular and widely available? How will the Esteemed Masters Wines and Spices take this development? How likely are they to tolerate it.

    Conscientious Londoners would better serve the community by practicing abstinence, something they can do freely now without detriment to those who enjoy these harmless pleasures. This policy will assuredly be quickly repealed in a year's time, and there shall be much rejoicing.

    And again, let us not forget our experiences of the past election cycle. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner owes favors to the Revolutionaries. Anyone even vaguely familiar with organized crime can tell you that owing a disrepuatable bunch like that favors is tantamount to them owning you. By the end of the campaign the Jovial Contrarian's campaign was all but taken over by the Calendar Council, with February herself openly walking the halls as his "assistant". Is these really the people we want to hold the reigns of power for a whole year?

    There is but one man who has a real plan. One that is at once both so audacious and cunning that it will instantly have a lasting affect on the balance of power in Our Fair City forever: Feducci.

    A chain anyone can climb. A London where ranks and titles may change hands by the hour. It will make a mockery of all that the upper echelons hold dear, and that's the brilliance of it. True change has always begun with the limiting of the elite's power. The only thing that sets our so called "betters" and rulers apart from us are their claims of blood purity and titles they've carried and inherited for generations. Take that away, and there's nothing that makes them more inherently special than any other man. Devaluing their prestige and social standing is the first step towards abolishing it utterly.

    Might it seem absurd? Might it be an unprecedented course of action? Yes! But can the same be not said for nailing a theses to the doors of the church? Dear friends, let them try to challenge us, let them repeal our new order when our year is up. But the damage to their veneer of invulnerability will be everlasting. We will draw first blood. We will make the first crack in the dam holding back an age of freedom and equality!

    Dear friends! Let us use this election to build a lasting legacy! Don't vote for a candidate that will foster complacency among the poor, vote for the one that gives every man an honest chance to advance, should he have the spine to work for it! For a Fair London, I beseech you!

    VOTE FEDUCCI!

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/29/2017
    Edward Warren wrote:

    Banning cheap vices won't make the demand disappear, it will only drive it underground.

    No one has proposed a ban on cheap vices. You are not accurately portraying the Campaigners position.

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/29/2017
    Poorhouses are nasty things, and the DTC's platform has nothing to do with such ghastly institutions. And the Jovial Contrarian is notoriously a windbag who'll argue both sides of a conversation for the fun of it - no wonder his campaign was co-opted by people with actual ideas. The Dauntless Campaigner is made of stronger stuff (check in her purse for proof if you like, just mind you aren't bit.)

    Fair point about the Detective, though.

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    MidnightVoyager
    MidnightVoyager
    Posts: 921

    6/29/2017
    So I'm not the only one subtly reminded of the King in Yellow with Fixer, am I? I'm a Repairer of Reputations!

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/29/2017
    It would be hilarious if Feducci's Mayoral Influence Card was completely RNG based. Like, 50% chance you get a favor, 50% chance you get a Menace or some other bad thing. It would perfectly fit his program.

    Maybe the odds would be even worse.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/29/2017

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    6/29/2017
    LordPhilippus wrote:
    I'm sorry if this was answered here before (I just registered to ask this question), but what is the difference between my influence over the election and my election level? Do both count towards the points that I add to my favorite candidate?

    The total "points" that you contribute to your candidate are:

    election career level + election influence level + Notability

    Possibly, when Debates are introduced next week, there will be even more to it.

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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 859

    6/29/2017
    I was really enjoying the election, but I think I've had enough for now. It has started to feel a bit like Failbetter's trademark grindfest. As I'm not too bothered who wins, I'm considering going back to what I was doing (especially as those fixer menace reductions are very, very useful right now). It wouldn't be so bad if the flash lays and investigations actually dug up new interesting dirt each time, but unless I missed something, once you've done one of each for all three of them you've found out all there is to find out. As a player I'm bored, and as a character why would I do all this stuff over and over just to gain the same info?

    Is there any reason for me to carry on, if I'm not particularly invested in any candidate? I assume the end result of your Election Career and Election Influence scores is simply votes in the election, there are no personal rewards? If so I think I might knock it on the head for a spell, as it as lost its allure.

    I understand that new things will happen next week, so I'll probably rejoin the fray then, though.

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    Doolittle
    Doolittle
    Posts: 8

    6/29/2017
    Mobs add a menace card to your deck which will raise one of Nightmares, Wounds, or Scandal when drawn (autofire). Also, while you are mobbed, you won't be able to embark on a flash lay to gather election resources.
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    Trilby
    Trilby
    Posts: 290

    7/2/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Trilby wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    phryne wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    My campaigner has developed a Blackwings Absinthe habit while campaigning for temperance
    See? That's what temperance does to you! :P

    It feels kinda awesome ^_^ Yay temperance!


    Compleatly unrelated topic;

    If it's completely unrelated, then it probably doesn't belong in the election thread. This isn't a thread where we discuss changes to regular game mechanics. It's a thread were we talk about election mechanics and content.
    .
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/2/2017


    Sorry, I was half awake and too lazy to just make a thread.
    I'll just remove that now.

    For something more on topic; is tomorrow the day when the investigating campaigns, flashlays, and the like change their text?
    Because I only actually found out the election started yesterday, and I want to get everything documented in a nice organized manner.
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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    7/1/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    I have several Suspicion removing offers and I can't accept any of them.. is it likely they all aren't in London right now? It's also strange that when you click accept on one name, you can change the drop-down list of names to people you didn't just click accept to.

    I have the same problem, I can't accept any fixers offering suspicion or scandal fixes as well as calling cards. Ironically, I have a backlog of requests on my main but none on my alt. Hopefully the issue will be fixed before the election's end.

    EDIT: On a sidenote, with the halfway point coming up soon, I wonder if the team switches like last year will be of notable impact. In the prior election, favor leaned with Jenny, so any switches to the Bishop or the Contrarian could only do so much for the other candidates. With this election being more even, it leaves the possibility for any revelations in our investigations or changes of heart from the voters to have more weight. I've still got tea leaves on the backburner in case the coffee goes bad, but ideally it won't come to that. Still, I'd like to see what everyone does when the time comes.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/1/2017

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    dov
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    7/1/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    I have several Suspicion removing offers and I can't accept any of them.. is it likely they all aren't in London right now? It's also strange that when you click accept on one name, you can change the drop-down list of names to people you didn't just click accept to.

    In order to accept such a pending offer from a Fixer, that Fixer needs to have no "Fixing Suspicions" with anyone.

    So if someone else has already accepted such an offer from that same Fixer, the Fixer must clear that person's Suspicion first before being eligible for you again.

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
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    7/1/2017
    So if stabbing people gives you special insight into their natures...

    what, pray, is the insight that you have gained? You seem to have skipped lightly past the meat of your point.

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    7/6/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Is it possible to know what decisions your Debating rival made once it's all resolved? I only see text relating to draws and wins so far (lucky me), so I guess I can extrapolate some of their decisions from that, as it's only Rock Paper Scissors. It's hard to keep track, what with 2 or 3 Message tab updates per action.

    Yes and no. It's confusing, and unfortunately asymmetrical.

    You can see my detailed explanation of the debate mechanics here.

    Basically, there's a difference between the one who initiated the debate, and the one who accepted it.

    After all the preparations, the debate initiator has an action called "Debate!" (the image and text vary slightly based on the hosting location). Once choosing that option, the debate results are applied to both players at once. But since the initiator is the active party to this action, they see the results like any other action result:
    • How many Winnings of Your Debates earned.
    • Any menace increases
    • etc.

    Then the other party (the debate recipient) gets a social action to respond to (the available option's name will tell them who won or if there was a dtraw). The debate material results are already applied, so unless they kept track of how many Winnings of Your Debates they already had before, they have no way to know how many were added. There's also no way for them to see any menaces applied (if the other party used the candidate-specific tactic).


    The only exception is when both parties cheat. In this case, when the initiator chooses "Debate!" they'll see a message of no Winnings of Your Debate increase (also no menaces). Then, when the recipient gets the social action, the option will be "Hell breaks lose", which only then applies the menaces (+3 CP to all) for both players (the initiator can later see this in their message tab).
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    David Dunham
    David Dunham
    Posts: 13

    7/10/2017
    David Dunham wrote:
    I entered a debate. But then someone cancelled it apparently. And I was in a debate with someone else. I got to make ONE decision and that is it. I am unable to see what's going on or do anything debate-related (other than I suppose dropping out, but it is unclear that that's something I need to do because my partner has gone back to their Surface life or what.

    I finally got another Debate message — after the victor was announced. My debate was apparently still not complete. Am I going to be able to find out what happens?


  • It’s really hard to design player interaction in turn-based games like this. Here, I think the time window made things a lot worse. Tthe debate didn’t last all that long to begin with, and with people around the world in different time zones, with a limited number of actions on top of that, I can’t really think of a way to fix this. Likely everything should have been done at once, and then the debate resolved once the last player got their three-in-a-row actions posted. The back and forth killed it.
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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
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    7/10/2017
    Making time(zone)-sensitive social actions in an Event free to play could be a start. If you have no actions and an invite is pending, you might tab away to do other things, then forget about it. Your friend is then asleep or working.

    Perhaps! FL could start using the opt-in Notifications scripts in most browsers, to ding players when specific social actions have come in.

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    Edward Warren
    Edward Warren
    Posts: 120

    7/7/2017
    Ladies and Gentlemen, we are faced a difficult dilemma in this election. All of us can agree, we must pick the candidate who can do the most good for London. But we must also pick the one who can bring about the changes that will last the LONGEST.

    As sad as it is to admit, Our Fair City has fallen far from the greatness of old, and I don't just mean figuratively. Crime, poverty, and the moral degradation of society are all crucial issues to tackle. However, consider this: for all the power the Mayor of London holds, he/she will only be in office for a year. Should we not approach this dilemma in a sensible way, reforming our city will prove a Sisyphean task, one that can never be completed.

    The Campaigner and the Detective both face uphill struggles, facing a myriad of organizations and institutions who will no doubt vehemently resist their efforts to bring about their reforms. And that does not even begin to factor in the power of the Masters, who both enjoy the honey trade and the corruption of government officials. How much will they be able to actually do for London, bogged down by a constant struggle against the considerable forces arrayed against them? Even if by miraculous chance they manage to enact their reforms near the end of the year, they will soon be gone anyway. And then it will be a simple matter for the powers that be to reverse these changes, loosen restrictions, and reinstate certain corrupt parties.

    We must come to terms with a rather sad fact: neither the Campaigner nor the Detective's goals will do much of anything to improve the lives of the downtrodden in any meaningful capacity. It is sad but true. Their intentions are pure, but less honey in the dens and fewer judges on the benches will do little to impact the lives of the downtrodden everyman. If they had more time, perhaps we'd see some benefit in the long run, but time is sadly a luxury we sorely lack.

    However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.

    Where his opponents stand to face a lengthy legal battle, Feducci offers the people of London the chance to elevate themselves now. A chain that can be climbed by all! Where fortunes, wealth, and a better standard of living can be won by all people willing to seek them. By the time Feducci's term ends, who knows how many of London's corrupt elites will be in the gutter, how many good and decent people who never had the chance to prosper will have newfound fortune?

    Citizens, I implore you to choose the candidate who's plan will touch the most lives! The plan that gives the people the fair chance they need right now! For a better London, for a Fair London, I implore you!

    VOTE FEDUCCI!

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/1/2017
    I will definitely agree that if I had to pick a candidate to beat up somebody else on my behalf, it'd be Feducci.

    Pretty sure that's something everyone can agree on, whether or not they want him for mayor.

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    Dudebro Pyro
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    Posts: 765

    6/30/2017
    In the end, though, you did them a favour by having menaces they could clear. It may sound backwards, but as a fixer, it's how it feels like - at least to me personally.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
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    6/30/2017
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    In the end, though, you did them a favour by having menaces they could clear. It may sound backwards, but as a fixer, it's how it feels like - at least to me personally.

    My campaigner has developed a Blackwings Absinthe habit while campaigning for temperance, on account of the need to provide scandal for multiple fixers to, well, fix.

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/3/2017
    Are you sure any of them are Agitators? You can only mob other agitators.

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    Dudebro Pyro
    Dudebro Pyro
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    7/1/2017
    I don't think hard-to-grind items are what was meant, but rather rare unobtainable ones where, if everyone currently owning one went north, they would be literally lost forever as an item that exists.

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    Kaijyuu
    Kaijyuu
    Posts: 1047

    7/2/2017
    Going NORTH is all about paying prices that can never be refunded.

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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    6/29/2017
    dov wrote:
    I'm guessing about the formula, but it fits what I saw:
    • Notability=5, required Reputation 1 to raise Influence from 0 to 1
    • Notability=5, required Reputation 2 to raise Influence from 1 to 2
    • Notability=6, required Reputation 4 to raise Influence from 2 to 3
    • Notability=6, required Reputation 5 to raise Influence from 3 to 4
    • Notability=6, required Reputation 6 to raise Influence from 4 to 5
    • Notability=6, required Reputation 7 to raise Influence from 5 to 6
    • Notability=6, required Reputation 8 to raise Influence from 6 to 7
    • Notability=7, required Reputation 10 to raise Influence from 7 to 8

    If I draw the right card, I'll drop my Notability to 0 and see how it affects the requirements with each level of Notability I then regain, without adding new Reputation.

    Well, it seems I've guessed wrong.

    I've dropped Notability to 0, and increased it back to 5 checking every step the requirements for raising election Influence, and there's no change.
    Regardless of Notability, the requirement to raise influence from 7 to 8 is 10 x Reputation.

    So: You need one point of Reputation (i.e. help one person with menaces) to gain one point of Influence.
    Except when raising Influence from 2 to 3, or from 7 to 8, in which case you'll need to gain two points of Reputation.

    Weird.

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
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    6/29/2017
    Why should I bother responding to mobs? Is there a new Menace State for those building up? Do they prevent me doing anything?

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
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    6/29/2017
    Is anyone else purposefully keeping Suspicion and Scandal at zero overnight? Otherwise we wake up with a dozen invites from strangers and that distinctly British obligation to respond to them all, haha.

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    dov
    dov
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    6/29/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Is anyone else purposefully keeping Suspicion and Scandal at zero overnight? Otherwise we wake up with a dozen invites from strangers and that distinctly British obligation to respond to them all, haha.


    On the contrary. I keep my Scandal at 3 at all times (which you can do without spending actions, just equipping items).

    There's no problem accepting multiple help requests from Fixers (even though only one of them will actually reduce your menace).

    It only takes an action from you were request, but every such action is another point in support of your candidate.

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/29/2017
    I thought I was somehow doing people a disservice to leave all those invites hanging, or worse, accept them only to lock the person into a perpetual limbo because the first-comer already reduced me to zero.

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    Doolittle
    Doolittle
    Posts: 8

    6/29/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    I've seen few if any Feducci supporters who seemed to actually believe that his idea of a society where you can literally gamble for your social status (as per the opportunity card snippet) would be in any way executable.



    What are being gambled are titles and fortunes not social status. You might reasonably argue that such commodification of titles is destructive of their ability to confer social status - and I'd agree with you, but I'd also say that that is precisely the point.
    edited by Doolittle on 6/29/2017
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    Amsfield
    Amsfield
    Posts: 176

    7/4/2017
    Isaac Zienfried wrote:
    Temperance isn't prohibition, though. That's something we've had to make a slogan of our campaign. Although Wines may not care much for the difference...



    You are, of course, correct; however the distinction is one that isn't immediately apparent to most players of the game without significant research, so does certainly make her less appealing in the eyes of the electorate and could therefore be considered a flaw. Additionally, still a failed idea, hence the lack of temperance marches currently occurring. It's also disingenuous to pretend the two movements aren't related; i mean talk long enough about 'the evils of' something and people will start to think maybe it's evil. But the main argument I was making in that post is that campaigning against something that both players and the characters enjoy is going to do her no favours, especially with hindsight on the issue.

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
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    7/5/2017
    Oh dear, that's quite the sordid past. Perhaps he'll surprise us all by extending the 'same rights to Clay men as free men'.. and then further surprise us by revealing what he meant: we can all be debt-slaves under the yoke of new masters-by-chance.

    My Feducci-supporting character doesn't know the slaver connection, but his support for the bandaged man is only skin deep anyway. He probably won't reach max influence whilst the others care a bit more about their candidates. Especially the Temperance supporter.

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    edited by Shalinoth on 7/5/2017

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    7/6/2017
    Is it possible to know what decisions your Debating rival made once it's all resolved? I only see text relating to draws and wins so far (lucky me), so I guess I can extrapolate some of their decisions from that, as it's only Rock Paper Scissors. It's hard to keep track, what with 2 or 3 Message tab updates per action.

    I've been culling my interaction history with ruthless abandon lately.

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    edited by Shalinoth on 7/6/2017

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    David Dunham
    David Dunham
    Posts: 13

    7/9/2017
    I’ve found the social aspects extremely frustrating. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they basically don’t work.

    The suspicion/scandal stuff almost never seemed to sync up. I would make offers but then could not follow up on them. Assuming I even know what following up meant, it was all confusing.

    I entered a debate. But then someone cancelled it apparently. And I was in a debate with someone else. I got to make ONE decision and that is it. I am unable to see what's going on or do anything debate-related (other than I suppose dropping out, but it is unclear that that's something I need to do because my partner has gone back to their Surface life or what.

    People have asked me for contributions (and I have responded), but I see no way I can do this.

    I have occasionally noticed I can repair someone's reputation.

    (If it matters, I'm a Fixer.)

    The Flash Lays and Cases are OK, and I have sometimes had the ability to pick people without somehow coordinating first (which is a plus, since I don't know anyone who's playing Fallen London).

    In short, I have seen almost nothing at http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24313-elementary-election-explainer.aspx?Page=1#post196648 . I'm certainly happy that some people have had things work, but I think the design prevents it from working for many others.
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    David Dunham
    David Dunham
    Posts: 13

    7/9/2017
    Also, my Messages seemed to keep getting cluttered with “ You completed a Social Event…” Usually Failbetter is pretty transparent about what actions will do, but I don't feel the election fit that at all.

    (And I still think anything that requires people to sync up is broken. I might ask someone for help with Scandal, but then have actions that took care of it myself. And likely vice versa. I have all these kind people offering to help me but no longer any need for it.)

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    Kaijyuu
    Kaijyuu
    Posts: 1047

    7/10/2017
    The Electoral Opportunity storylet will be available for a little bit after the election is over, right? I want to hold on to my stuff as long as possible to maximize profit, but I don't want to lose out either.

    (maybe they should've done either individual turnins or made the storylet have 0 action cost to avoid this uncertainty)

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    Amsfield
    Amsfield
    Posts: 176

    7/10/2017
    I'd convert donations to favors whilst I can. Debate proceeds will maybe stick around, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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    Sinnouk
    Sinnouk
    Posts: 62

    7/8/2017
    Trilby wrote:
    How are your winnings calculated?
    Check out dov's detailed explanation here, they even made a calculator on the wiki.
    edited by Sinnouk on 7/8/2017

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    7/9/2017
    I gave it a valiant try, these debates. Had some exceptional RP and made a few friends.
    But at this point, whether it's bugs or the long uncertainty of replies from players, I can't see it finishing with realistic gameplay.

    So: I'm just debating my alts a few times and calling it a day :P

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    7/3/2017
    Feducci is literally measuring the drapes, but that's probably his arrogant personality being put on full display.

    My read is that support for the Detective has plateaued, while the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner's campaign has much more room to grow thanks to the support of many different types of voters:

    1. Jenny first voters.
    2. Clay & Rubbery rights voters.
    3. Late deciding voters (who have been breaking our way)

    Some of these voters will no doubt come out of Feducci's support. We Campaigner supporters can beat Feducci by winning more late deciding voters and persuading Feducci's less enthusiastic voters to switch to us. It's very doable, I've done it a number of times already and it's going to a bit less difficult now.
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    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    7/3/2017
    I'm both liking and not liking this development.
    On the one hand, all the suspicions we've been debunking have been permanently and solidly debunked,
    and we have both the support of Rubberies and Clay men, apparently.

    On the other hand, I'm afraid that the only thing that's keeping the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner from being a straight up Mary Sue are the lack of popular support and the existence of the Honey-Well, neither of which are necessarily big problems.

    Don't take this the wrong way - I've been supporting her from the beginning and I will until the bitter end, but I kind of feel that Failbetter aren't giving the DTC the flaws and depths she deserves because they want her to catch up to the other two candidates.

    It sure is hecking nice to rub it in everyone's face, though. We have the bloody rubberies, nothing can stop us now.

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    Alex WasRight
    Alex WasRight
    Posts: 383

    6/26/2017
    ah. i hate campaigning. can't i just cast a vote and murder some interns?
    edited by rebelanarch-82 on 6/26/2017

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    hellaGumshoe
    hellaGumshoe
    Posts: 76

    6/26/2017
    Any Dauntless dudes that need a fixing, ask Gummy! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hellaGummy
    edited by hellaGumshoe on 7/3/2017

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Posts: 577

    6/26/2017
    SleepingD wrote:
    I don't care for Dauntless' goals and find her interference bothersome and tedious, and while I do greatly respect IDs intellect... let's just say the constables and I are not very often on the same side. While Feducci's agenda runs deeper I'm relatively confident I can handle whatever fresh hell he might unleash and chaos brings opportunity.

    On a somewhat unrelated I love the art on the candidates.

    [spoiler]If you look into the investigation for the Detective, you'll find out she's not as big on the Constables's law as we might think. Unless your problem is her affiliation with them at all. In which case, the bandaged prince probably is your best pick.[/spoiler]
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/26/2017

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    Bricriu Lashonhara
    Bricriu Lashonhara
    Posts: 2

    6/26/2017
    Should any supporter of Feducci find themselves in need, I welcome the opportunity to fix any troubles you should have. Send your invitations round and I'll tend to them as swiftly as I can. The more dedicated supporters will see election materials sent by to further the cause.

    Address all correspondence to Bricriu. It will find me.
    edited by Bricriu on 6/26/2017

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    Vortigaunt
    Vortigaunt
    Posts: 51

    6/26/2017
    Im mad cause I finally just got rid of my scandal, suspicion, and a mob and was a bout to start a Flash Lay, but right as I clicked it, someone sicced another blasted mob on me.

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    Sam
    Sam
    Posts: 4

    6/26/2017
    heavensdark wrote:
    Is anyone else struggling with the game itself? I have had to refresh crashed pages multiple times just to back my candidate. I finally got a broken page telling me I backed my candidate. When I reloaded to the main page and attempted to begin my electoral duties as a fixer and it told me once more I had not backed a candidate yet. I can get cards and actions not election related to work properly but nothing related to the election itself.


    Hi Heavensdark,

    We've not seen any spikes in errors on our end - Could you please send in a ticket to support@failbettergames.co.uk? Title it 'FAO: Sam' and I'll get you fixed.

    Best,

    Sam

    edited by Sam on 6/26/2017
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    Sallow
    Sallow
    Posts: 46

    6/26/2017
    Like many others, I'm still wasting my time at the ball, double-checking if I've seen everything it has to offer. I keep getting to an Airs state where there's just Mingle and Leave to choose. I have Lydia as companion and have seen her option, but I haven't taken part in last year's elections. I'm guessing this is for Airs 100? Could someone please tell me what it's about. And.. if it's not too soon.. kinda spoil the rest of the ball, and whether or not there are other hidden encounters, apart from the 1-33 with the Contrarian/Bishop and 34-66 one with Jenny. Thankeeeeeeee!
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    Omega8520
    Omega8520
    Posts: 102

    6/26/2017
    Having had Airs 100 in the mingling, it doesn't unlock anything new, as far as I could see.

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    narcomanic
    narcomanic
    Posts: 64

    6/26/2017
    Am I supposed to still have my qualities from last year's election? Just logged in for the day and I've got a storylet unlocked with Agitator 6 in addition to the Invitation to a Ball one. Is this a bug or is the career supposed to only reset once you choose a new candidate?

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    Blaine Davidson
    Blaine Davidson
    Posts: 396

    6/26/2017
    When viewing the card "Learn more about the Candidates!" the following text appears:

    "Who has put their names into
    the ring? Who has been bold enough to declare themselves for London's first Mayorship?"

    I think you mean Second Mayorship. Unless we've somehow gone back in time.

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    Louvelune
    Louvelune
    Posts: 6

    6/26/2017
    Louvelune wrote:
    Is it possible to change your career BEFORE selecting a candidate? If not, can it be done between choosing the candidate and picking their gift, at least? ^^°


    Alright, I went ahead - not much of a choice anyway, and: it turns out you CAN swap after picking your candidate, but before picking your free item. Just "perhaps not" out of the gift selection page, then come back into the election's storylet. smile
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    Parabuteo
    Parabuteo
    Posts: 48

    6/26/2017
    What price is something so insubstantial as light in exchange for freedom from laws and chains? I have gone North. I burn there. But were I able, I would vote for Feducci for his acknowledgement that chains aren't meant to be binding or inviolable. Liberate the Night. The poor. The prisoners. Shatter all chains, literal, metaphorical, or metaphysical.

    This is weak rhetoric, but honestly, he's a weak candidate; mostly notable as a contrast to the forces of law and order on the opposing side. Call me when another member of the Calendar Council runs-- that will get you some premium shrieking Revolutionary madness.
    edited by Parabuteo on 6/26/2017

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    Omega8520
    Omega8520
    Posts: 102

    6/26/2017
    The fact that the Dauntless Campaigner is having her workers waylay and steal from honey-dealers quite funny. "How will we enforce temperance? By being illegal as all hell, of course!`

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    Northwards with Noman. At least they'll have company.
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     Saklad
    Saklad
    Posts: 528

    6/26/2017
    I know it is early, but I just want to thank Failbetter Games for creating the greatest event ever. The improvements seem spectacular, the writing is hilarious, and I’m having a ton of fun already.

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    Spitfire Youngster
    Spitfire Youngster
    Posts: 32

    6/26/2017
    We get one uptight society lady, one Constabulary boot licker, and an undead killer.

    I say, let's get killing.

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    Skinnyman
    Skinnyman
    Posts: 2230

    6/26/2017
    Fadewalker wrote:
    Three new items this year,
    [spoiler]
    you get the first for free and further for 30 fate.
    Epicurean War-Helm: Hat, Feducci only, +8 Dangerous, +1 Dreaded;
    Corinthian Belfry Hat: Hat, Detective only,, +8 Shadowy, +1 Bizarre;
    Indignant Bearskin: Hat, DTC only, +8 Persuasive, +1 Respectable.


    Last year:
    http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22610-new-festival-election.aspx#post151410
    [/spoiler]
    edited by Fadewalker on 6/26/2017

    Wasn't 100% sure of backing Feducci, but...! Big Grin

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/26/2017
    suinicide wrote:
    Is anyone else having some difficulty choosing a career? It loops me back to the storylet page.



    Yep.

    Probably isn't live yet.

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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 859

    6/26/2017
    I do like me some unduly tight livery.

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    BlabberingMat
    BlabberingMat
    Posts: 385

    6/26/2017
    I am still mingling XD. Partly because I am waiting for good people here on forums to gather list of items that can be chosen. I don't wanna miss out on something like boots last year

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    Finally, I am Crooked Cross! Feel free to send invitations for Salon!
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    IHNIWTR
    IHNIWTR
    Posts: 364

    6/27/2017
    I can't believe I'm supporting the campaigner, but there you have it

    the explanatory text on her card absolutely won me over

    [spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.

    "I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]

    I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/27/2017
    "You demand to know why a woman notorious for subcontracting her cases is positioning herself as the saviour of London justice."

    This game is so great, people. So great.

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    Kaijyuu
    Kaijyuu
    Posts: 1047

    6/27/2017
    I was able to accept a help but I didn't seem to get any menace reduction from it.

    I've another help in my message log that I cannot get rid of because they apparently sent it in the ~4 minutes I was a Detective supporter before switching to Feducci. Since we don't support the same candidates anymore, none of the options work, even the refuse one.

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    Diptych
    Diptych
    Administrator
    Posts: 3843

    6/27/2017
    Ah, His Grace was just yankin' your stole. Bit of the ol' boisterous clerical humour.

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    Great Dreamer
    Great Dreamer
    Posts: 3

    6/26/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

    Naturally, I'd invite you to join the cause of the Temperance Campaign, being as I have sided with our dignified lady.
    If you're not familiar with the Temperance movement in the 19th century, it had strong ties to Women's Suffrage (equality) and Animal Rights, so it's not only helping the poor, it's helping everyone who's finding himself at a disadvantage for being born different in our beautiful little London.

    If you find yourself on our side of the fray, be sure to hit up our donations page, we have some fixers who'd be more than pleased to offer you some scandal and suspicon cures, and plenty are willing to donate if you happen to be a campaigner.


    where is the donation page? I've just started as a campaigner.
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    Reinol von Lorica
    Reinol von Lorica
    Posts: 102

    6/26/2017
    New guy here, but is it worth investing in this election campaign? If I do take part, what benefits do I get y doing so? Pardon me if this is the wrong thread.

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    aegisaglow
    aegisaglow
    Posts: 206

    6/26/2017
    Question: does the 6 echo option for campaign donations benefit campaigners more than giving silks? I'd rather give silks, but if money's better I'll do that.

    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD



    The Detective is my sponsor at the Dilmun Club, and I respect her prowess. But the last thing this city needs is more police force and broader power.

    The Campaigner is kind to animals and addicts, and that's what's important to me. Feducci claims to want to help the poor too, but his rhetoric sounds like he'll just remove the few protections workers have in London.

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    MartzelDePamplona
    MartzelDePamplona
    Posts: 50

    6/26/2017
    aegisaglow wrote:
    Question: does the 6 echo option for campaign donations benefit campaigners more than giving silks? I'd rather give silks, but if money's better I'll do that.

    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD



    The Detective is my sponsor at the Dilmun Club, and I respect her prowess. But the last thing this city needs is more police force and broader power.

    The Campaigner is kind to animals and addicts, and that's what's important to me. Feducci claims to want to help the poor too, but his rhetoric sounds like he'll just remove the few protections workers have in London.


    I started with The Campaigner. Then in checking deeper into her campaign, I found that she had close ties to the Anarchists. Anyone who is willing to help with the Liberation of the Night gets a hard pass from me. We'll see what dirty secrets I can dig up on the other two and then I'll decide which one I'm going to give my vote to.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/26/2017
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

    Naturally, I'd invite you to join the cause of the Temperance Campaign, being as I have sided with our dignified lady.
    If you're not familiar with the Temperance movement in the 19th century, it had strong ties to Women's Suffrage (equality) and Animal Rights, so it's not only helping the poor, it's helping everyone who's finding himself at a disadvantage for being born different in our beautiful little London.

    If you find yourself on our side of the fray, be sure to hit up our donations page, we have some fixers who'd be more than pleased to offer you some scandal and suspicon cures, and plenty are willing to donate if you happen to be a campaigner.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/26/2017
    Sam Stephens wrote:
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm strongly considering the Campaigner for my candidate. She claims to be helping the poor, after all. Do I really need mushroom wines more than the poor need food?

    On the other hand, I have some ties pulling me towards the Detective. I began as a detective myself, and we're fellow members of the Dilmun Club. How could I look her in the eye at meetings unless I lend her my vote?

    Could anybody help me decide? I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. XD

    I'm sure the Detective will forgive you if you help with that Mountain of Light business ^_^ The Detective's program is so harsh and narrowly tailored - where there's a velvet glove it's only for members of her own profession who have fallen on hard times (and probably with one particular detective in mind before all else). The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner will help the Honey Addled Detective as surely as she helps everyone else. You can't beat a universal program.

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    Hark DeGaul
    Hark DeGaul
    Posts: 208

    6/26/2017
    As I did last year I have a character of every profession, but poor Hebediah is having a terrible time finding agitators to fight. I can't help but feel like they're at something of a disadvantage because they can only interact with fellow agitators of different allegiances.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/26/2017
    Three things I really love.

    1. The fact you can get people to vote for Temperance by getting them drunk on Church wine :P
    2. The Campaigner is referred to as 'the Steel Lady."
    3. The Campaigner's purse, which is something else.

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    Menoetius
    Menoetius
    Posts: 2

    6/26/2017
    Hm, I'm unsure who to support, myself...
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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    Thanks, Plynkes. I think for the sake of reaching Renown Criminals 50, my main character will grab that shadowy hat then. So I have to pretend to support the Detective, take her hat, then turncoat over to Feducci.. which totally fits his personality.

    My other 2 characters will support the other 2 candidates. Yes, I'm cancelling out my alt-vantage, but I get to see more lore and it sort of fits their stories anyway. :P
    edited by Shalinoth on 6/27/2017

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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 859

    6/27/2017
    I think you just get the one free item. Once I had picked a free candidate hat, everything else was only available for Fate.

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    A limerick! I heartily approve, sir.

    Supporters of other campaigns should most definitely make their own now. I do declare.. a rhyme-off!

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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    6/27/2017
    @Plynkes, I whole-heartedly agree with your hat-plundering shenanigans, without even knowing who you signed up with.

    It would be fun if these turn-coat choices are being silently recorded, to bite us in the bum later, haha.

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/27/2017
    Reinol von Lorica wrote:
    Right then. Hopefully the chaps at the College will be happy. I'll campaign for the DTC. Also, will the Bohemians who have no labels still benefit?

    Probably depends on the works they produce, so it would depend on the individual artist. That's the trouble with the 'no labels' Bohemians - they're impossible to generalize.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017

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    Silvan Derre
    Silvan Derre
    Posts: 61

    6/27/2017
    Is it too early to give feedback? Because mechanically the mob feels too overpowered. Either you spend 11 actions and second chances ridding yourself of the mob or have your menaces skyrocket getting rid of them, plus dealing with the menace in your deck. And having a mob around locks you out of the flash lay and investigations to boot! It feels like all my actions just go towards menace management instead of any actual electioneering. And it doesn't make sense to me story-wise why performing good deeds would raise scandal. Take it easy with the menace raising mechanics next time, FBG
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    Reinol von Lorica
    Reinol von Lorica
    Posts: 102

    6/27/2017
    Okay...since I see no counter argument against the Detective, I guess I'll start campaigning for her...unless I get persuaded otherwise

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    Kylestien
    Kylestien
    Posts: 766

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:
    I feel it important to note here that that is exactly how the Contrarian started. Then they took over the entire thing. Granted with the DTC at the helm that will be harder, but nonetheless.

    They didn't take over, they were always part of the Contrarian's campaign...because the Contrarian is a member of the Calendar Council :P


    The Contrariant was thoughly against them taking over, which is rare for a man who goes back and forwards on everything.

    Actually we don't know his opinion on the matter as he has never stated what he thought. He could have invited February to take the job for all we know.


    ...I'm pretty sure he hated it. There was text and everything. Anyone got the exact quote?

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
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    6/27/2017
    Reinol von Lorica wrote:
    Okay...since I see no counter argument against the Detective, I guess I'll start campaigning for her...unless I get persuaded otherwise

    The Detective doesn't really like people. Her campaign treats London's neighborhoods like an occupying army. The police are already insanely powerful and can beat up or even secretly kill suspects up with impunity, so giving them more power seems like a bad idea. She's an ally of the Masters, a regular at Mr Wine's revels, and she is allied with the Serpent Kings of Parabola. All her plans are entirely focused on the police force and she doesn't have any program for the rest of London.

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    Mr Nautilius
    Mr Nautilius
    Posts: 1

    6/27/2017
    And what are your thoughts on livery companies that emerged in this year's election, dear Londoners? Each candidate is supported by a one: "The Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks" works for Dauntless, "The Honourable Company of Stereoscopists" for Detective and "The Worshipful Company of Victualers" for Feducci.

    I don't remember encountering any of these organisations earlier.

    As far as I've learned, the Stereoscopists seem to be connected with Glass. It's intersting that magicians are supporting Detective... Well, maybe I'm a bit biased against snakes, but this entanglement makes her a rather risky choice imho
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    Autonomous
    Autonomous
    Posts: 35

    6/27/2017
    IHNIWTR wrote:
    oh I know

    just like you can win it big by betting on horse races


    The thing is: you can not win under any other mayor. They prohibit the poor to "bet on the horse race" or they prohibit to give the poor their "prise". Only Feducci gives the freedom of growth and allows all to win. Also, the "horse race" example is not correct, cause, it's only about luck. It is more like career growth or capital/money-bag growth, your own labour and skill, not luck or fate. Under other mayors, the poor can not "start their own business" and are destined to rot in the slums, toiling for pennies. Under Feducci- they can get a better life, by their hard work, resourcefulness and will. It's like slavery in Egypt, and capitalism in USA, compared.
    edited by Autonomous on 6/27/2017
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    dariuseng
    dariuseng
    Posts: 8

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:

    Feducci is a spy for the Presbyterate who is also allied with Hell. He is receiving cash bribes from the Presbyterate and his campaign manager is a Devil. His platform calls for a culling of legal and class restrictions in order to let people rise and fall as ability and chance dictate (among the restrictions he wants to remove are liquor licenses).

    I am very, very skeptical that Feducci has the best interests of London at heart or that his platform is wholly sincere. This is a man who challenges people to duels to the death while being pretty much immortal, has a history of leading those who follow him to destruction (his Hallowmas confession), and is, again, on the Presbyters payroll.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017


    Oh please, like the Campaigners revolutionary allies are any better. They wish for the collapse of all rules and law. And as for the duels to the death, last I checked his lances weren't tipped with Cantigaster venom and he doesn't chop up the body, so his opponents are free to return if they desire

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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2221

    6/27/2017
    The Campaigner is not a Revolutionary. Like a lot of Londoners she has some friends who are Revolutionaries, that's all.

    Feducci goes to his duels literally covered in black ribbons, so he has permanently killed a large number of people in duels to the death. And yet he cannot actually die. He can't even be maimed. So he takes no risks in those fights - they're the definition of one sided. Just as he takes no risks in his Presbyterate investments. With Feducci, risk is for other people. When he gambles his dice are always loaded.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/27/2017
    dariuseng wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:

    Feducci is a spy for the Presbyterate who is also allied with Hell. He is receiving cash bribes from the Presbyterate and his campaign manager is a Devil. His platform calls for a culling of legal and class restrictions in order to let people rise and fall as ability and chance dictate (among the restrictions he wants to remove are liquor licenses).

    I am very, very skeptical that Feducci has the best interests of London at heart or that his platform is wholly sincere. This is a man who challenges people to duels to the death while being pretty much immortal, has a history of leading those who follow him to destruction (his Hallowmas confession), and is, again, on the Presbyters payroll.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017


    Oh please, like the Campaigners revolutionary allies are any better. They wish for the collapse of all rules and law. And as for the duels to the death, last I checked his lances weren't tipped with Cantigaster venom and he doesn't chop up the body, so his opponents are free to return if they desire

    They're not her "Revolutionary Allies", they're trying to get her to repay them for a debt.
    The DTC used to be close friends with the previous March of the Calendar Council, a March that for all intents and purposes was mellow and nice and got killed for not being as much of a die-hard revolutionary as the rest.

    The Anarchists are indeed trying to pressure our Temperance Campaigner, but don't think they're *allied* with her.

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    Reinol von Lorica
    Reinol von Lorica
    Posts: 102

    6/27/2017
    Hmmm, all of them appeal to me. I don't know any of them other than a short encounter with the Detective. Need some help

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    Reinol von Lorica
    Reinol von Lorica
    Posts: 102

    6/27/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Reinol von Lorica wrote:
    Hmmm, all of them appeal to me. I don't know any of them other than a short encounter with the Detective. Need some help

    You've probably met the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner before. She sometime brings you potato soup when you're wounded. She has the most progressive platform of the three candidates, declaring: "I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation."

    And promising:
    • Increased tea drinking.
    • A reduction in the supply of prisoners honey and intoxicating liquors through more stringent licensing and higher prices in order to combat widespread addiction and poverty.
    • Improved conditions and greater rights for London's workers, debtors, and tenets.
    • "Houses of respite and healing" to aid those stricken by poverty or addiction and to help them recover.
    • Greater protection for London's assorted animals - presumably everyone from L.B.'s to Blemmigans.
    • A crackdowns on spirifiers.

    In a lot of ways one might say that the Campaigner is fighting to expand Jenny's legacy of modest reform into something far more expansive.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 6/27/2017





    I'm interested. I wish to hear more about Feducci and the Detective first. If not, I'm willing to campaign for a reduction in Scandal.

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    6/27/2017
    Attention: Character repairman seeking to mend the damaged reputations and legal standing of right-minded gentlefolk. May be found under the name "Franzibald Fauntleroy". Inquire at the Bazaar, Tower 8, Room 31.

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    Plynkes
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    6/28/2017
    I think you are spot on there, Infinity Sim.

    I do not care about the issues. The poor of Fallen London are nothing to me <whisper>because they're not real</whisper>. They can all go hang for all I care (in fact from an RP point of view, I think my character would actually want things to get worse for the downtrodden Londoners, as then the likelihood of them swelling the ranks of the revolutionaries might well increase). I care about being entertained, and about what's interesting. From where I'm sitting there isn't all that much that's interesting about the ID and the DTC when you compare them to old bandage-features.

    I don't want to know about how worthy, noble or progressive candidates are, I want to learn interesting, quirky and funny things about them. I want to be entertained.

    So when folks take to the forum arguing their case like we were talking about real world issues, for me it somewhat sucks the fun out of things. It becomes dreary and tiresome, much like our own politics and so much not like what Fallen London is normally all about to me. So occasionally I start getting snarky (apologies for that). Clearly some folks do get a lot of enjoyment out of treating it like it is real. I find that hard to imagine, but perhaps I need to try and be a little more understanding.

    And while the DTC is the dullest thing to hit London by a country mile, there is one thing about her that is tantalizing, and that's her murky past with the Revolutionaries. I really hope we get to find out more about that. And I hold out hope that should she win, because of that connection, there might be an option on her mayoral card that post-conversion gives out Revolutionary favours (some kind of secret dealings perhaps). That would be one super nice silver lining to the cloud of having her in charge for a year. smile

    Dammit, the preview window seems to be up the spout now. This place is falling apart.

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    A Dimness
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    6/28/2017
    Plynkes wrote:
    I think you are spot on there, Infinity Sim.

    I do not care about the issues. The poor of Fallen London are nothing to me <whisper>because they're not real</whisper>. They can all go hang for all I care (in fact from an RP point of view, I think my character would actually want things to get worse for the downtrodden Londoners, as then the likelihood of them swelling the ranks of the revolutionaries might well increase). I care about being entertained, and about what's interesting. From where I'm sitting there isn't all that much that's interesting about the ID and the DTC when you compare them to old bandage-features.

    I don't want to know about how worthy, noble or progressive candidates are, I want to learn interesting, quirky and funny things about them. I want to be entertained.

    So when folks take to the forum arguing their case like we were talking about real world issues, for me it somewhat sucks the fun out of things. It becomes dreary and tiresome, much like our own politics and so much not like what Fallen London is normally all about to me. So occasionally I start getting snarky (apologies for that). Clearly some folks do get a lot of enjoyment out of treating it like it is real. I find that hard to imagine, but perhaps I need to try and be a little more understanding.

    And while the DTC is the dullest thing to hit London by a country mile, there is one thing about her that is tantalizing, and that's her murky past with the Revolutionaries. I really hope we get to find out more about that. And I hold out hope that should she win, because of that connection, there might be an option on her mayoral card that post-conversion gives out Revolutionary favours (some kind of secret dealings perhaps). That would be one super nice silver lining to the cloud of having her in charge for a year. smile

    Dammit, the preview window seems to be up the spout now. This place is falling apart.

    Rest assured that all sides will indubitably become more interesting by the halfway mark.
    Once the election heats up, we'll get new investigation results that will show that all of the election campaigns are slowly collapsing in on themselves, that all three candidates are in far over their heads, and that atleast a half a dozen cats will have exploded.

    ...Atleast, that's how it went down last year, I suspect that's the path we'll be running this year.

    I am in any case really interested in which direction the DTC's campaign will be going, I suspect she'll run out of funds and will consequently have to start selling back honey or something like that, but maybe the revolutionaries really do take over her platform (even though that'd be kind of a half-assed copy of the contrarian's run from last year).

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    Corvo
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    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    I get it, though.

    Feducci's supporters are primarily players who feel a fairly large degree of detachment with their characters or the actual setting, so they pick the option that's most likely to amuse them and stir up things. Either that, or their player characters are so powerful already that they'll only really be able to benefit from Feducci's victory.

    As a DTC supporter, I'm just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I'd personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that's been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I'm putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I'm doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I've written everything but the name-list myself).

    I think I'm getting too carried away at times, I absolutely love campaigning but I'm making it more of a hot-button issue than it is.


    It's funny that you mention this. I primarily choose Feducci as my candidate since he seemed like the most interesting of the whole lot and because I can also kinda detach myself from the setting and, I guess, make a meta choice. But, ironically enough, I think supporting Feducci as a candidate is something that my character would also do from a roleplaying perspective since he'd back Feducci because, like me, he'd find Feducci as the most interesting candidate and because he is also pretty detached from the issues that plague London (even if he isn't actively opposed to fixing them, but he won't go out of his way to do that)

    Also, as a little aside, while the bit of drama/toxicity that comes from the Election event can get a bit tiring/disheartening, I also like it on some level since it shows how invested people can get in the whole setting and all that (though, please, let's keep the toxicity to a minimum, lest the forums become as poisonous as the Cantigaster lol).

    EDIT: Though, I can definitively see how the whole drama/toxicity can take away from the enjoyment. I guess I jsut prefer to see the silver lining of the situation.
    edited by Corvo on 6/28/2017

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    Akernis
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    6/28/2017
    LillianAranach wrote:
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    And for all of his heroic acts against the aristocracy of hell, he seems to be very thick buddies with the devils of London...


    Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.

    Indeed, even amongst devils he helps the little guy stand up against tyranny.

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    Pnakotic
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    6/28/2017
    Kylestien wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:
    I feel it important to note here that that is exactly how the Contrarian started. Then they took over the entire thing. Granted with the DTC at the helm that will be harder, but nonetheless.

    They didn't take over, they were always part of the Contrarian's campaign...because the Contrarian is a member of the Calendar Council :P


    The Contrariant was thoughly against them taking over, which is rare for a man who goes back and forwards on everything.

    Actually we don't know his opinion on the matter as he has never stated what he thought. He could have invited February to take the job for all we know.


    ...I'm pretty sure he hated it. There was text and everything. Anyone got the exact quote?

    Yes, I do. Kept links to all the candidates here.

    And I'd agree with your assessment of the situation based on reading Failbetter's actual storylets... but there was a great deal of head canon being interjected as hard facts during last years election. Perhaps a foreshadowing of the "fake news" and "alternative facts" that were to come in real-world events. upset

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    Parabuteo
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    6/28/2017
    Yes, the Contrarian seemed unhappy with February's interference, along with implications that he was not entirely on board with the whole business of the Great Work. Baffling that ANYONE should oppose the Liberation of Night, which is:
    * Cool
    * Good
    * Moral
    * Correct

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    Kaijyuu
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    6/27/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    I have both "Advance your career" and "Advance your election career" cards in my deck right now. Is that normal? Neither have options yet, as I haven't re-chosen to be a Campaigner yet.

    One is a one-time card that explains some mechanics (it's the undiscardable one). It has an option identical to the regular card that allows you to turn in campaign items to advance your career, but only once (then the card is gone from your deck).

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    hellaGumshoe
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    6/27/2017
    I'd like to go ahead and say I'm really enjoying the changes in the election this year. Agitating is pretty fun, and it makes me wish I was in the game for a season of Knife-and-Candle. Fixing is pretty nice too, and (from the outside) Campaigning seems interesting. Definitely better than last year, when they were all just repeating Flash Lays and/or Writing Books.

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    LillianAranach
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    6/28/2017
    Anne Auclair wrote:
  • If they're so advanced, why did London win the last war?


  • I believe it was due to some betrayal in which one of their number charted an unexpected course for London's forces. I'm not entirely sure, though, as it was in a Hallowmas confession that I can't seem to find now. My apologies by the way for being so brief and inconcise. I've been quite busy and hadn't had much time to research or chat.

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    Kaijyuu
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    6/28/2017
    Oh, sorry, I got confused; there's two forms of advancement this time. You advance your generic career by doing as you said, and you advance your fixer qualities by fixing people's menaces. Both are separate and both contribute to your vote in the election.

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    Akernis
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    6/28/2017
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    As a DTC supporter, I'm just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I'd personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that's been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I'm putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I'm doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I've written everything but the name-list myself).



    And I find that immensely commendable. I am strong supporter of roleplay, and immersing myself in the game as I play is easily the greatest joy in the game for me.
    However much as I might like roleplay, it is unfeasible to talk about this from my character's perspective. She is a social Darwinist and a manipulative proponent of meritocracy. She would not 'waste time' trying to convince others why she supports Feducci. She would be out doing actual Fixer work behind the scenes. The very act of sharing her opinions with others for the simply sake of discussion, comparison, and perhaps convincing one or two other members to change their vote, would in itself be out of character.
    And trying to talk about it from my character's point of view could quickly become toxic, so I would rather avoid that.

    However, I can do the next best thing, namely talk about why I, as a player, supports Feducci. And yes, that essentially boils down to "I am fascinated by the mysteries of Fallen London and the Neath, so whichever candidate is the most intriguing and the one whose story and friendship will likely be the most interesting to my character is the one I am going to support."

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    A Dimness
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    6/28/2017
    Plynkes, Corvo and Akernis wrote:

    *Completely fair and justified view on the 1895 Mayoral Election*

    Absolutely understandable.
    Have a delicious evening,
    and may the best candidate win.

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    dov
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    6/28/2017
    Zack Oak wrote:
    Fixers advancing their influence level is like a rube goldberg machine, man. I'm still figuring it out. If I can understand it correctly, it goes like this:
    Step 1: Fixer finds a fellow supporter who has suspicion or menace. Sends them a request to reduce their menace.
    Step 2: Recipient agrees or declines. Fixer gains a quality that allows them to proceed to step 3
    Step 3: Fixer begins a storylet to get 7 "correcting a suspicious record" or "Correcting a scandalous record."
    Step 4: Fixer turns their "correcting" quality into "a reputation for fixing things"
    Step 5: If a Fixer's "a reputation for fixing things" quality is twice their influence, they may increase their influence. Otherwise, repeat steps 2-4 until it is.
    It's ludicrously complicated and a complete action sink. I gave up and went to campaigner, where I only need three steps of action and helpful friends for the process.


    Almost. Some more points:
    • The Fixer can send multiple help offers. The first recipient who accepts give the Fixer a quality (Fixing Scandals/Suspicions), which prevents others from accepting their own pending requests from that Fixer.
    • To increase Influence you don't need Reputation to be twice Influence. I'm not 100% sure yet on the formula, but I think it grows with your Notability. It increased by 1 for me every step, and when I increased Notability it increased to.
    • I *think* that the formula is that you need to have Repuation be Influence + 1 + (Notability over 5)..
    • I'll confirm this when I next draw the Amanuensis card and remove all my Notability.


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    Corvo
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    6/28/2017
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Anyone enjoying being a Fixer? And if so, please share why?
    I was planning to have my 3 characters being all 3 Careers and a separate Candidate each. Not sure now.


    It's extra legwork but I definitively enjoy being a Fixer, though that might have more to do with the fact that I think that, RP-wise, it's the campaign class that best fit's my character.

    Also, is it really that hard to get more levels up for the Fixer profession? I mean I am pretty sure I am at level 10, or 11 I am not entirely sure, of the Fixer profession atm (midn you, I mean the Fixer profession itself, haven't tackled the whole influence thing yet which might be another beast entirely)

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    6/28/2017
    Nah, the profession's easy enough. Well, last year people were complaining that you had to do both investigations and flash lays, whereas the other two professions both had a single source for both of their career items; but in the end fixers can spend all their public attention on a metric ton of making waves, which is nice.

    This year, the influence is what everyone's complaining about. And this time around there doesn't seem to be a silver lining to actually going through with it, other than possibly the satisfaction of doing what your character will do despite the difficulties.

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    Kaijyuu
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    6/28/2017
    I dunno where anyone got the idea that fixer is less efficient than normal social menace reductions. Unless you're doing it at < 7 scandal/suspicion?

    If you're not being silly and are getting the reductions at 8 (or 1 less than 8) menace, it's more efficient for both sender and receiver. 1 action for receiver obviously, and 7 actions using the least efficient methods for the fixer. Regular methods require 9 actions on both sides to reduce someone from 8 to 0, plus the healer needs to deal with extra menace they get from helping.

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    PSGarak
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    6/28/2017
    Last year, people were complaining that being a Fixer was mechanically inferior... then at the start of the second week, they released the resource trade-ins, and Fixers had an advantage that you could think of them as assymetrically balanced.

    I'm seeing the same story start to happen again. Right now, they're more difficult to level up Influence and Menaces aren't as big a deal as they should be. I'm guessing, come Debates next week, their work will be more sought-after.

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    Anne Auclair
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    6/28/2017
    PSGarak wrote:
    Last year, people were complaining that being a Fixer was mechanically inferior... then at the start of the second week, they released the resource trade-ins, and Fixers had an advantage that you could think of them as assymetrically balanced.

    I'm seeing the same story start to happen again. Right now, they're more difficult to level up Influence and Menaces aren't as big a deal as they should be. I'm guessing, come Debates next week, their work will be more sought-after.

    Oh yeah, I hadn't thought about this... Though the resource trade-in was in response to player complaints about imbalances.

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