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Trilby
Trilby
Posts: 290

7/7/2017
Edward Warren wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, we are faced a difficult dilemma in this election. All of us can agree, we must pick the candidate who can do the most good for London. But we must also pick the one who can bring about the changes that will last the LONGEST.

As sad as it is to admit, Our Fair City has fallen far from the greatness of old, and I don't just mean figuratively. Crime, poverty, and the moral degradation of society are all crucial issues to tackle. However, consider this: for all the power the Mayor of London holds, he/she will only be in office for a year. Should we not approach this dilemma in a sensible way, reforming our city will prove a Sisyphean task, one that can never be completed.

The Campaigner and the Detective both face uphill struggles, facing a myriad of organizations and institutions who will no doubt vehemently resist their efforts to bring about their reforms. And that does not even begin to factor in the power of the Masters, who both enjoy the honey trade and the corruption of government officials. How much will they be able to actually do for London, bogged down by a constant struggle against the considerable forces arrayed against them? Even if by miraculous chance they manage to enact their reforms near the end of the year, they will soon be gone anyway. And then it will be a simple matter for the powers that be to reverse these changes, loosen restrictions, and reinstate certain corrupt parties.

We must come to terms with a rather sad fact: neither the Campaigner nor the Detective's goals will do much of anything to improve the lives of the downtrodden in any meaningful capacity. It is sad but true. Their intentions are pure, but less honey in the dens and fewer judges on the benches will do little to impact the lives of the downtrodden everyman. If they had more time, perhaps we'd see some benefit in the long run, but time is sadly a luxury we sorely lack.

However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.

Where his opponents stand to face a lengthy legal battle, Feducci offers the people of London the chance to elevate themselves now. A chain that can be climbed by all! Where fortunes, wealth, and a better standard of living can be won by all people willing to seek them. By the time Feducci's term ends, who knows how many of London's corrupt elites will be in the gutter, how many good and decent people who never had the chance to prosper will have newfound fortune?

Citizens, I implore you to choose the candidate who's plan will touch the most lives! The plan that gives the people the fair chance they need right now! For a better London, for a Fair London, I implore you!

VOTE FEDUCCI!


If I didn't know better, I'd almost think your implying Mr Irons would be upset seeing the navy's officials cleaned of the New Sequence's influence.
Or having our enforcers of the law be cleared of internal criminal and revolutionary elements, thus enhancing their efficiency and credibility.
edited by Agent 'Trilby' on 7/7/2017

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Trilby
Trilby
Posts: 290

7/7/2017
Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Trilby wrote:
Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
I've been receiving a lot of debate requests as well as offers from fixers, so I'd just like to remind everyone that my main is unable to accept any of these requests. They're glitched out and I've yet to receive an answer from support, so for now, they are out of commission on that front. My Detective-supporting alt, however, is free for fixer offers and can debate as soon as he's done with his current bout.

Speaking of glitches, I am curious as to how I should go about the Influence quality when talking to support. I can't reach 15 without their help, and seeing that this glitch has effected other options for a few weeks now, I'm pretty sure I'll unfortunately be ending the election with a solid 10. Is anyone else having similar issues in the election? It's of no one's fault, but it also feels unfairly stunting to our progress as well.


Is your alt at least available?
And if so; when do you respond to social actions the fastest?
edited by Agent 'Trilby' on 7/7/2017

My alt is available to any and all social actions. Typically, I answer fastest around an hour or two before noon (EST), though tomorrow I'll be lucky if I'm able to access FL at all before the afternoon. After that, I'll be checking my account every hour, though I could check even sooner if a debate is currently ongoing by then.


I'll be waiting if your interested in a debate then.
Just send me a letter when your available, as right now you seem a bit occupied with someone else.

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kwogger
kwogger
Posts: 26

7/7/2017
In these waning days of the election, I am a supporter of the Campaigner and I'd be happy to talk at length with anyone up for some civilized debating.

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Trilby
Trilby
Posts: 290

7/8/2017
How are your winnings calculated?
I've gotten up to 4 with my debate opponent whose currently asleep, and I still need quite abit more in earnings.
I can't leave the debate and now I need to wait for their awakening.

Do my earnings decrease the more I influence the election?
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MidnightVoyager
MidnightVoyager
Posts: 921

7/8/2017
So when does the election end, anyway? I want to see if I might be able to finish at least one debate before then.

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Sinnouk
Sinnouk
Posts: 62

7/8/2017
Trilby wrote:
How are your winnings calculated?
Check out dov's detailed explanation here, they even made a calculator on the wiki.
edited by Sinnouk on 7/8/2017

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If the Implacable Detective Wins…

I go to jail! And you go to jail! And you go to jail, yes, you too! Everyone goes to jail!
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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
Posts: 2221

7/8/2017
MidnightVoyager wrote:
So when does the election end, anyway? I want to see if I might be able to finish at least one debate before then.


Monday.

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Shalinoth
Shalinoth
Posts: 508

7/9/2017
I gave it a valiant try, these debates. Had some exceptional RP and made a few friends.
But at this point, whether it's bugs or the long uncertainty of replies from players, I can't see it finishing with realistic gameplay.

So: I'm just debating my alts a few times and calling it a day :P

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MidnightVoyager
MidnightVoyager
Posts: 921

7/9/2017
I have had exactly one completed debate (it went bad, so it was short) and I am waiting on the final bit of my second. Alts are the only way I'm going to get anything done, seems like.

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Trilby
Trilby
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7/9/2017
If anyone else is already finished with debates, do send me a letter.
I'm more than willing to provide a rapid fire session of debates.

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David Dunham
David Dunham
Posts: 13

7/9/2017
I’ve found the social aspects extremely frustrating. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they basically don’t work.

The suspicion/scandal stuff almost never seemed to sync up. I would make offers but then could not follow up on them. Assuming I even know what following up meant, it was all confusing.

I entered a debate. But then someone cancelled it apparently. And I was in a debate with someone else. I got to make ONE decision and that is it. I am unable to see what's going on or do anything debate-related (other than I suppose dropping out, but it is unclear that that's something I need to do because my partner has gone back to their Surface life or what.

People have asked me for contributions (and I have responded), but I see no way I can do this.

I have occasionally noticed I can repair someone's reputation.

(If it matters, I'm a Fixer.)

The Flash Lays and Cases are OK, and I have sometimes had the ability to pick people without somehow coordinating first (which is a plus, since I don't know anyone who's playing Fallen London).

In short, I have seen almost nothing at http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24313-elementary-election-explainer.aspx?Page=1#post196648 . I'm certainly happy that some people have had things work, but I think the design prevents it from working for many others.
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David Dunham
David Dunham
Posts: 13

7/9/2017
Also, my Messages seemed to keep getting cluttered with “ You completed a Social Event…” Usually Failbetter is pretty transparent about what actions will do, but I don't feel the election fit that at all.

(And I still think anything that requires people to sync up is broken. I might ask someone for help with Scandal, but then have actions that took care of it myself. And likely vice versa. I have all these kind people offering to help me but no longer any need for it.)

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    Kaijyuu
    Kaijyuu
    Posts: 1047

    7/10/2017
    The Electoral Opportunity storylet will be available for a little bit after the election is over, right? I want to hold on to my stuff as long as possible to maximize profit, but I don't want to lose out either.

    (maybe they should've done either individual turnins or made the storylet have 0 action cost to avoid this uncertainty)

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    Amsfield
    Amsfield
    Posts: 176

    7/10/2017
    Kaijyuu wrote:
    The Electoral Opportunity storylet will be available for a little bit after the election is over, right? I want to hold on to my stuff as long as possible to maximize profit, but I don't want to lose out either.

    (maybe they should've done either individual turnins or made the storylet have 0 action cost to avoid this uncertainty)



    Just turned in all the dirty secrets I had been building up. Whilst probably not the most efficient grind in action terms, I can't say I haven't come out of this election in pocket.

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    Rostygold
    Rostygold
    Posts: 682

    7/10/2017
    What about the unused minor resources, like the Donations and the stuff from the Political Debates? Are they just going to lapse?
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2580

    7/10/2017
    Rostygold wrote:
    What about the unused minor resources, like the Donations and the stuff from the Political Debates? Are they just going to lapse?

    Who knows? These qualities weren't in the game last election.

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    Amsfield
    Amsfield
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    7/10/2017
    I'd convert donations to favors whilst I can. Debate proceeds will maybe stick around, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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    Maiser: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maiser
    A young firebrand of obviously criminal intent.
    Venshik: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Venshik
    Not a nice person.
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    David Dunham
    David Dunham
    Posts: 13

    7/10/2017
    David Dunham wrote:
    I entered a debate. But then someone cancelled it apparently. And I was in a debate with someone else. I got to make ONE decision and that is it. I am unable to see what's going on or do anything debate-related (other than I suppose dropping out, but it is unclear that that's something I need to do because my partner has gone back to their Surface life or what.

    I finally got another Debate message — after the victor was announced. My debate was apparently still not complete. Am I going to be able to find out what happens?


  • It’s really hard to design player interaction in turn-based games like this. Here, I think the time window made things a lot worse. Tthe debate didn’t last all that long to begin with, and with people around the world in different time zones, with a limited number of actions on top of that, I can’t really think of a way to fix this. Likely everything should have been done at once, and then the debate resolved once the last player got their three-in-a-row actions posted. The back and forth killed it.
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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 508

    7/10/2017
    Making time(zone)-sensitive social actions in an Event free to play could be a start. If you have no actions and an invite is pending, you might tab away to do other things, then forget about it. Your friend is then asleep or working.

    Perhaps! FL could start using the opt-in Notifications scripts in most browsers, to ding players when specific social actions have come in.

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    xKiv
    xKiv
    Posts: 902

    7/10/2017
    I wonder what will happen with the one of my characters who was locked at "preparing for debate" 4 for the entire election. (4=cannot cancel). Will that debate conclude fiercely next year?

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