Nigel Overstreet
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6/23/2017
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Feducci promises the chain can be climbed and we can be free of restrictions.
This sounds like Liberation of Night talk to me.
The Implacable Detective promises a firmer hand with the law? I've got a Clay arm and an "Enhancement," so strict adherence to Law clearly isn't for me, either. Besides, too much talk of Law leads me to think there are New Sequencers involved.
And I don't know if the Neath's greatest Hedonist can support...ugh...temperance. Even if it does seem the centrist choice. Jenny, at least, allowed me the sin-trist choice.
So I am undecided. For now. But I'm likely to be a full throated, level 20 supporter with 15 Notability for whomever I choose.
Sell me on your candidate and I'll throw my full support behind them.
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Pumpkinhead
Posts: 516
6/24/2017
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Given three imperfect candidates, the correct decision is to Seek Mr Eaten's Name. Who needs a mayor if we're all floating around in the Avid Horizon?
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Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
6/24/2017
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lady ciel wrote:
I don't like tea Get out.
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Luminen Walker
Posts: 172
6/23/2017
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The Campaigner has tea. I don't believe the other candidates have promised beverages to London.
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phryne
Posts: 1351
6/23/2017
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The Campaigner and the Detective are running on the usual "I-want-to-improve-London-for-everyone-really-I-care-so-deeply-for-each-and-all-of-you" platforms and who still believes that kind of tosh anyway?
Feducci is the "change-for-change's-sake" candidate.
Feducci is the "stick-it-to-The-Man" (or maybe in this case "stick-it-to-The-Bat") candidate.
Feducci is the "I-don't-really-care-what-is-this-election-thing-anyway-let's-have-another-beer" candidate.
If that doesn't convince you you're probably some kind of upper-class snob anyway.
#VoteFeducci - and find out how much worse it can get!
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Fadewalker
Posts: 136
6/24/2017
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Pumpkinhead wrote:
Given three imperfect candidates, the correct decision is to Seek Mr Eaten's Name. Who needs a mayor if we're all floating around in the Avid Horizon?
(Every year during the mayor election I can see someone go North. Safely assume that beyond the Horizon there lies Canada.
Mystery Solved 1/1)
Back to the point, I'm leaning towards the Campaigner. If you think all candidates are awful for you, maybe it's better to choose someone who can't make an entire difference in one year. One year is pretty enough for selling information, maybe enough for further enforcement of laws, but for wines, honey and all drinkables, a Master of the Bazaar has his business. If the Campaigner become our mayor, I think it is very likely there will be a compromise.
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
6/24/2017
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Surely the most Hedonistic Man in London in All of Fallen London would revel in the even greater notoriety he would accrue if the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner were to be mayor.
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Dungerson
Posts: 44
6/24/2017
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To be honest, I'm leaning toward Feducci myself, but allow me to argue for Mme Campaigner for my sophistry training.
EDIT: In the end, I choose to side with the Detective. More on my reasoning below.
[spoiler]I think all candidates have their own merits, scandals, and weaknesses, but what really convinced me to throw my lot with the Detective is the fact that one of the most popular argument against her is that they couldn't trust the constables. Clearly, the constabulary is in severe need of reform; as she has placed that on top of her agenda, I think electing her is the best chance to accomplish this goal.
Not to say that the others' campaign promises aren't worthy, but it feels especially sad to me that the citizens of London cannot trust their supposed protectors. I know, I know, some of you may say, "But they aren't really supposed to be the citizens' protectors, they're made too be the tool of the authorities from the start." Well, then this might be the time to change that, isn't it?[/spoiler]
You seem to be an unrepentant hedonist with immense drive and capabilities, just like many of us are. Therefore, you should vote for the temperance movement!
Wait, hold on, I could hear you say. Wouldn't that be counter to my debauched inclinations?
As a matter of fact, it wouldn't! You are a man/woman/???? of many resources and connections. What could a newly elected mayor do against you? Absolutely nothing! I assure you that you would find a way to circumvent whatever edicts of sobriety the Campaigner would impose. You just have to find more discreet means for your pursuit of pleasures - which, let's be honest, you probably have already discovered and employed to avoid certain "vacation" trips to the Tomb Colonies.
London's seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it'd thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man... or whatever the Masters are?
Organized crime!
Organized crime is your chance to go beyond what's currently possible. None of the other candidates can create this condition. Now is your chance to create and ride this wave, Sir/Madam/Whatever-you-are. A vote for the Campaigner is a vote for more debauchery! It's just moved (even further) underground!
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Kylestien
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6/24/2017
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There is only one real choice for the hedonistic of this city.
And that is to flip a coin and hope for the best.
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John Moose
Posts: 276
6/23/2017
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Climbing the chain goes very much counter to LoN rhetoric, as far as I know. A big part of the LoN philosophy is that the chain imprisons all, the high and the low, and that's why it mustn't be climbed but destroyed.
Because living as some weird blind worm-things in a pile of mushrooms sounds sooo great. Uhh.
But to get back to point, I don't think Feducci is pro-Liberation, but rather pro-ascension, pro-red science. Pro storming Nidah, maybe? In any case, he sounds like the first candidate from either election who might do some long term good. While everyone else spends their time fiddling with marginally improving the conditions of the poor and raising alcohol taxes, the Vats grow hungry and soon everyone those do-gooders tried to protect will be gone anyway. What might stand the test of time are bold initiatives by the exceptional! Colonize Aestival, storm Nidah, open the Gate! Rush for the new frontiers, and let those who won't seize the opportunity be devoured by the results of their own inaction!
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
6/24/2017
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Well it's more that tea doesn't like me.
[spoiler] I'm mildly allergic to tannin and get the most awful headaches when I drink tea [/spoiler]
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
6/25/2017
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I'd just like to register my amusement that the same "Is there actually any point in participating in an election, down with the system" discussion that bedevilled anarchists in the 19th century has been so gloriously resurrected for our entertainment.
History rhymes!
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The Atumian Sputum
Posts: 137
6/24/2017
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Feducci.
*cheering*
Other candidates
*booing, maybe hissing too*
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A Dimness
Posts: 613
6/24/2017
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Vote campaigner-
try to make London a slightly less cruddy place,
fail miserably,
have some tea.
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Mizadil
Posts: 57
6/24/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
Personally I think they'll all be awful.
I agree. So why not stick with our current mayor, who's done an admirable job. I will be casting a write-in vote for Jenny and suggest you do the same.
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A Dimness
Posts: 613
6/23/2017
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Feducci is also most likely going to sell us out to Snuffers and Presbyters. So there's that.
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An Individual
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6/24/2017
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The Implacable Detective is a member of the Dilmun Club. Who knows what madness might ensue when radical academics tighten their grip on power! Oh the fun we will have!
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
6/24/2017
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I'm undecided as well.
My thoughts so far
Feducci - I'm interested in the Presbyrate and would really like to know what his standing with them is. When given a choice I take the dangerous options. Quite likely to back him.
Implacable Detective - I'm a member of the Velocipede Squad and have thumped wrong doers. Also very interested in knowing more about the Dilmun Club. Another one I might back.
Dauntless Temperance Campaigner - I don't like tea  But if her campaign allows rights for the oppressed and against cruelty I might be swayed.
So it might come down to waiting until I know what item I can get from supporting them or hearing more about their campaigns.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
6/25/2017
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Sell you on a candidate? I don't have a candidate. Vote for any of them or none. It does not matter. We are pigs being consulted on what colour to paint the slaughterhouse that will turn us to pork. Vote how you want, but work secretly towards a higher cause.
The Masters must pay for their crimes. Fiat justitia ruat cælum!
We shall yet be free of light and law.
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A Dimness
Posts: 613
6/27/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Kylestien wrote:
...I fear supporting the DTC is a terrible mistake.
[spoiler]She is planning to get rid of Prisoner's Honey. ALL of it. Also Revolutinaries are sniffing about her camp, but mainly the honey thing. [/spoiler]
She can't actually get rid of all of it, even if that was her intention :P
No, but there's something really satisfying about a potential shadow war between the DTC's platform and Mr. Wines.
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Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1784
6/27/2017
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I will vote for the Campaigner and love the moment when Sinning Jenny hands her over they mayoral hall - two seemingly different ladies who both went for the exact same cause.
Also, the honey well is genius and I cannot wait to see where it goes.
PS I hate to say bad things but... Feducci is sooooo Byronic that Byron's ghost got pissed off and is now voting for DTC.
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Layla Dupont
Posts: 2
6/28/2017
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DTC! If you're in any way altruistic or less than self-interested. Feducci is planning to tear down the old order - great - and then reinstate a new order (not so great) in which those who meet his definition of 'daring' go to the top. Which means there's a bottom. Which means anyone who is cautious, simply unable to help themselves or who loses ends up at the bottom of the pile.
Why is the Implacable Detective even interested in becoming mayor?
In either case, I'd vote for the person with actual experience trying to improve London who has previously tried to do so. (Then again I'm a new player, so lore may well contradict me on that.)
And hey I'm a pendulum between Austere and Hedonist, but she's got her priorities right - housing first, temperance not so important.
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Blast_Fantastic
Posts: 63
6/29/2017
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Roaring speakeasies, illegal stills, a thriving black-market, the thrills of secrecy and subterfuge, more grand thefts of contraband and confiscated delights, all under a pious public veneer that makes the private kind all the more delicious.
The Campaigner will be a boon for the independent businessman while providing a pleasant environment for our dear old aunts.
It’s like she was made for Fallen London.
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IHNIWTR
Posts: 346
6/27/2017
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the explanatory text on the campaigner card absolutely won me over
[spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.
"I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]
I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day
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6/27/2017
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[spoiler]Endless night, eh? And some artists might feel jealousy at her hoarding of the poison of the honey bee, which they call sweet delight. But her care for innocent creatures might prevent public strife and the ruin of the state. Well, we can but try to tell the truth with good intent.[/spoiler]
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IHNIWTR
Posts: 346
6/27/2017
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Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
IHNIWTR wrote:
the explanatory text on the campaigner card absolutely won me over
[spoiler]The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner tears herself away from a brisk conversation with a member of Humble Order of Mudlarkers and Steeplejacks to answer your questions.
"I have dedicated my life to fighting exploitation. Yes, I've fought the honey-pushers, who addict dreamers, and the drink-dealers who poison mothers and fathers. But I'm here to fight the factory-owners, the landlords, the bankers who drive our citizens into such harmful escapes. We must help the addled and afflicted, provide houses of respite and healing. And tea. I am in favour of tea." She smiles and gives you a firm handshake, before marching away to menace a notoriously unscrupulous landlord.[/spoiler]
I'd take housing for the poor over speculative investment and more brutal policing any day
You're everywhere, aren't you?
I'm Dauntless
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
6/27/2017
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If Feducci get his way, he will undermine the social structure that makes hedonism both possible and (dis)respectable.
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Suhe Gul
Posts: 200
6/24/2017
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I am undecided as well. this election might be close between candidates. I really liked jenny even before last election so she was my choice. this year, I am a bit leaning toward the detective because of her ties with dilmum club. I really like those guys. I wish his amused lordship was running for mayor.
edit: tea is great, who doesnt like some tea but I am sure we can have our tea without DTC
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Correspondent and willing to make orphanage calls.
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A Dimness
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6/25/2017
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I'm going campaigner because it's refreshing to be backing someone who has little to no idea of all the intricacies and plots running in the political/criminal/mythical underbelly of Fallen London.
Here's a lady that's going to try to push her agenda of temperance without meddling in the business of Masters, criminals, or foreign agents.
I guess that's what I like about her, she seems terribly naive yet charismatic enough to still be a force to be reckoned with, and that's new and refreshing considering all the seasoned veterans, dabblers in eldritch lore, and political masterminds.
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Yeah
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6/25/2017
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I'm also mostly undecided, though I'm fairly certain I won't be backing the DTC, purely because I'm fairly sure she's going to win.
If she doesn't, however, there's a reason to be excited should either the detective or Feducci wins. There's to be a return to the Dilmun club sometime before the end of the year, and I think it's fair to expect some form of minor tie-in with the detective being mayor.
On top of that, Sinning Jenny had a self-contained fate-locked story after becoming mayor. I'm to assume there's some correlation there. Should Feducci gain his own brief fate-locked escapade in the same vein as SJ's finishing school, I can only expect that it'd be thoroughly enjoyable.
I'm going to wait until the gifts for enlisting with the various candidates are revealed to actually pick one, though if the watchful boots remain the most tantalizing option available, my backing's going to the detective.
tl;dr down with the dtc.
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
6/25/2017
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From a gameplay perspective...
Campaigner: I guess she brought me soup once to help with wounds? Great, whatever.
Detective: keeps trying to rope me into expensive investigations and why do I have so many of her cards anyway, but the chess is pretty good
Feducci: AARGH STUPID MAKING YOUR NAME GRIND BOOOOO
Hmm. That really only suggests who *not* to vote for.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
Posts: 575
6/24/2017
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Feducci is callus towards others (though it always makes me chuckle to see others support him because they know he's dangerous), the Detective may be a bit too legal for your tastes, and the Campaigner is almost certainly not on your Christmas card list. Honestly, I can see why you'd want to leave your vote up on a vote.
Though, if I recall, you're already borderline-immortal with your cider, so there's less to be desired from Feducci's ascension promises (that is, if he even plans to share in the benefits). And if my United States history is up to snuff, temperance led to all sorts of trouble for persistent drinkers. Scarcity, additional dangers like toxicity and the law, and underhanded tricks from empowered criminals and quacks selling their alcohol-based remedies as medicinal cures. As for the Detective, we may get to see some fun mayhem from what she intends to do with the law. Will she double down on the underworld of London in an all-out brawl for the heart of the city? Will she go rogue on her followers to carry the corrupt coppers and upper class to task in an upheaval of social norms in the name of justice? Maybe she'll even use her power to follow up on crimes from those above on the Chain! Either way, her end results are to be quite exciting while still proving safe enough that they won't destroy London or her pleasures.
However, if it turns out she's secretly planning on personally feeding us to the Dawn Machine (which I highly doubt, since there are multiple variants and interpretations of law in this game), then feel free to burn this post and throw your hat into the Campaigner's corner. Out of the two other candidates, at least she's the least likely to kill anyone.
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Anne Auclair
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6/24/2017
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Dungerson wrote:
London's seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it'd thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man... or whatever the Masters are?
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Organized crime!
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And if my United States history is up to snuff, temperance led to all sorts of trouble for persistent drinkers. Scarcity, additional dangers like toxicity and the law, and underhanded tricks from empowered criminals and quacks selling their alcohol-based remedies as medicinal cures.
That's Prohibition, not Temperance. Legal prohibition is forbidding all manufacture and sale of intoxicating liquors. Legal temperance involves either restricting the location, number and hours of establishments which sell intoxicating liquors (bars being closed on Sunday for example) or placing excise and consumption taxes on alcohol with the aim of discouraging consumers. Please stop conflating prohibition and temperance, they're very different. Prohibition forbids, temperance merely discourages :P
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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6/24/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Dungerson wrote:
London's seedy underbelly would survive any moralistic legislation imposed upon it, too. In fact, it'd thrive from it! Under the pressure of Law, the darker elements of the city would band together and organize themselves. You, Important Person, could only profit from this! Do you salivate at the thoughts of cold, hard cash from honey-running operations? Do you dream of commanding an army of disciplined miscreants of your own - the size of which would put any gang of hoodlums into shame? Are you looking for a chance to stick it to the Man... or whatever the Masters are?
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Organized crime!
Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
And if my United States history is up to snuff, temperance led to all sorts of trouble for persistent drinkers. Scarcity, additional dangers like toxicity and the law, and underhanded tricks from empowered criminals and quacks selling their alcohol-based remedies as medicinal cures.
That's Prohibition, not Temperance. Legal prohibition is forbidding all manufacture and sale of intoxicating liquors. Legal temperance involves either restricting the location, number and hours of establishments which sell intoxicating liquors (bars being closed on Sunday for example) or placing excise and consumption taxes on alcohol with the aim of discouraging consumers. Please stop conflating prohibition and temperance, they're very different. Prohibition forbids, temperance merely discourages.
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I meant by "led" that the initial movement for temperance influenced the oncoming set of prohibition and led to a bigger support for it among some of its followers, though I should have chosen my words more carefully, so you have a fair point. All the same, it sounds as though either case would come into issue with Nigel's hedonistic tendencies. Even if it's merely discouraged, that might become a blemish on an otherwise indulgent track record and make the fulfillment of such pleasures even harder. As someone who's keeping the Campaigner in their back pocket should the Detective unfurl Dawn-colored flags out of nowhere, I'd still recommend the Detective first and the Campaigner as second should a bit of law not sate your tastes, Mr. Overstreet.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
6/23/2017
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Feducci for freedom to do what you want? How much could it hurt, really? Doesn't he already do whatever he wants? And don't we already do what we want? Seems like the least intrusive choice for anyone who's content with present levels of crime and inebriation.
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6/24/2017
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I miss the bishop, or even Jenny. As it stands we have a full out spy for the Presbyterians, a temperance movement which can be good or super bad, and the Detective who I like for the law and order bit, but isn't very inspiring.
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