Sara Hysaro
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We don't know what the exact divide is between the candidates, and the forum doesn't necessarily provide an accurate representation of the playerbase as a whole. It's entirely possible that the people leaving Feducci's camp to join the DTC's will only serve to lower his numbers just enough to narrowly edge the Implacable Detective over him without boosting the Campaigner's numbers high enough to overtake her.
If you want to increase the odds of this beyond simply maximizing your own character's vote you (or anyone reading this) could try swaying some of Feducci's supporters over to our side by reaching out to them ingame. The best approach here would be to sell them on the narrative potential of the Implacable Detective moreso than the general platform; most of the ones who are voting based on platform would sooner switch to the Campaigner, while those who choose their candidates based on intrigue might be won over if you make a good case that the Grand Prosecution would be incredibly interesting to see, regardless of whether or not it'll ultimately work out the way the Detective hopes. Another positive you could sell them on is the possibility of additional Parabola and Finger-king lore, though for the newer players you'd probably have to elaborate on what those are.
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Anne Auclair
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dov wrote:
I wouldn't worry.
FBG have commented several times that the forum participants are a tiny minority of the player base.
I don't know how many players there are overall (thousands, tens of thousand...), but this won't be affected by 10-20 more active and vocal people on the forums switching their choice.
Oh, the forum players are only the very tip of the iceberg. We've seen far more movement from players who don't use the forums regularly or at all. We have the momentum and our three point plan is working as envisioned.
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So, while DTC supporters *might* be right in their claims, the only real evidence we have comes from FBG, which is:
- Feducci "gallops ahead"
- The Detective "trails behind"
- The DTC's "chances seem slim"
Anything else is either wishful thinking or deceptive.
The DTC's chances only seem, seem, seem slim. Things are not always what they seem. And Feducci's lead isn't as big as it seems either.
I remember Sinning Jenny's lead - there were huge parades in her honor, the city was decked out in scarlet banners, everything pointed to her victory. Feducci in contrast is getting premonitions of hubris and ruin.
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dov
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Anne Auclair wrote:
We have the momentum and our three point plan is working as envisioned.
Again, wishful thinking.
You might be right, but there's no evidence to back it up. Just subjective gut feeling, based on what you decide to read between the lines.
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Anne Auclair
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dov wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
We have the momentum and our three point plan is working as envisioned.
Again, wishful thinking.
You might be right, but there's no evidence to back it up. Just subjective gut feeling, based on what you decide to read between the lines.
I've been getting letters and coffee invites from players who were for Feducci last week and are now supporting the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. I've been seeing a clear break for the Campaigner among late deciders. Feducci supporters who I have contacted fresh this week have switched sides. I've been having trouble keeping up with it all. And none of these players are forum goers.
This of course is on top of the switchers and late deciders we won late last week but who didn't have time to get all that much career built up (hence the seemingly slim chance).
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Trilby
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Anne Auclair wrote:
dov wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
We have the momentum and our three point plan is working as envisioned.
Again, wishful thinking.
You might be right, but there's no evidence to back it up. Just subjective gut feeling, based on what you decide to read between the lines.
I've been getting letters and coffee invites from players who were for Feducci last week and are now supporting the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. I've been seeing a clear break for the Campaigner among late deciders. Feducci supporters who I have contacted fresh this week have switched sides. I've been having trouble keeping up with it all. And none of these players are forum goers.
This of course is on top of the switchers and late deciders we won late last week but who didn't have time to get all that much career built up (hence the seemingly slim chance).
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Great
More Seeking content
Just what we needed
Say...
As a key supporter of the Campaigner, would you happen to know why her office's guarded by the Stags of all people?
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Because blood is thicker than honey! ...maybe not literally, but the point is, Dauntlesses gotta stick together!
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dov
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Because blood is thicker than honey! ...maybe not literally, but the point is, Dauntlesses gotta stick together!
That explains Chuffy. But I doubt all the others are there for the same reason. There's *are* the Young Stags.
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Diptych
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I assumed they were there to help their friend Chuffy. He's a likeable fellow, and doesn't find it hard to convince his chums to join in his schemes. See also: the business with the Duchess.
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Amsfield
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
I assumed they were there to help their friend Chuffy. He's a likeable fellow, and doesn't find it hard to convince his chums to join in his schemes. See also: the business with the Duchess.
Does anybody else think it would have been nice if Stag players, or at least DTC stag players could have been informed or even got an invitation to join the guard and possibly a small reward, like a scrap or gossip? for balance I suppose other candidates should have had something similar, like velocipede squad members for the ID.
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Edward Warren
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we are faced a difficult dilemma in this election. All of us can agree, we must pick the candidate who can do the most good for London. But we must also pick the one who can bring about the changes that will last the LONGEST.
As sad as it is to admit, Our Fair City has fallen far from the greatness of old, and I don't just mean figuratively. Crime, poverty, and the moral degradation of society are all crucial issues to tackle. However, consider this: for all the power the Mayor of London holds, he/she will only be in office for a year. Should we not approach this dilemma in a sensible way, reforming our city will prove a Sisyphean task, one that can never be completed.
The Campaigner and the Detective both face uphill struggles, facing a myriad of organizations and institutions who will no doubt vehemently resist their efforts to bring about their reforms. And that does not even begin to factor in the power of the Masters, who both enjoy the honey trade and the corruption of government officials. How much will they be able to actually do for London, bogged down by a constant struggle against the considerable forces arrayed against them? Even if by miraculous chance they manage to enact their reforms near the end of the year, they will soon be gone anyway. And then it will be a simple matter for the powers that be to reverse these changes, loosen restrictions, and reinstate certain corrupt parties.
We must come to terms with a rather sad fact: neither the Campaigner nor the Detective's goals will do much of anything to improve the lives of the downtrodden in any meaningful capacity. It is sad but true. Their intentions are pure, but less honey in the dens and fewer judges on the benches will do little to impact the lives of the downtrodden everyman. If they had more time, perhaps we'd see some benefit in the long run, but time is sadly a luxury we sorely lack.
However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.
Where his opponents stand to face a lengthy legal battle, Feducci offers the people of London the chance to elevate themselves now. A chain that can be climbed by all! Where fortunes, wealth, and a better standard of living can be won by all people willing to seek them. By the time Feducci's term ends, who knows how many of London's corrupt elites will be in the gutter, how many good and decent people who never had the chance to prosper will have newfound fortune?
Citizens, I implore you to choose the candidate who's plan will touch the most lives! The plan that gives the people the fair chance they need right now! For a better London, for a Fair London, I implore you!
VOTE FEDUCCI!
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Sara Hysaro
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Edward Warren wrote:
However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.
Feducci is strongly implied to have no plans or strategies whatsoever for mayorship beyond simply winning the position.
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menaulon
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Edward Warren wrote:
Where his opponents stand to face a lengthy legal battle, Feducci offers the people of London the chance to elevate themselves now. A chain that can be climbed by all! Where fortunes, wealth, and a better standard of living can be won by all people willing to seek them. By the time Feducci's term ends, who knows how many of London's corrupt elites will be in the gutter, how many good and decent people who never had the chance to prosper will have newfound fortune?
Citizens, I implore you to choose the candidate who's plan will touch the most lives! The plan that gives the people the fair chance they need right now! For a better London, for a Fair London, I implore you!
VOTE FEDUCCI!
It also doesn't seem that Feducci would allow some to elevate themselves, considering he chose as his rewared from Hell to transport and guard Devils' slaves. Are the slaves just not counted as "all" or are they the links of the chain we are supposed to climb?
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Anne Auclair
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Edward Warren wrote:
The Campaigner and the Detective both face uphill struggles, facing a myriad of organizations and institutions who will no doubt vehemently resist their efforts to bring about their reforms. And that does not even begin to factor in the power of the Masters, who both enjoy the honey trade and the corruption of government officials.
That's why we should elect Feducci, who has said the following:
We can't change everything about the game; The kings and queens of the game are ensconced...
All Could Rise, Most Shan't. Equality in Death, Liberty in License.
After all, you can't fail in reforming London if you don't even plan on reforming it. You can't lose against the Masters if you don't plan on fighting them. Your program can't fail if it can't actually be implemented. Why vote for reforms that might not work when you can vote for no reforms whatsoever? So vote Feducci and the guarantee of getting absolutely nothing.
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Edward Warren
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
Edward Warren wrote:
However, all is not lost. There is still a candidate with a real plan for change, who's daring strategy can make a meaningful change during the mere year of his term.
Feducci is strongly implied to have no plans or strategies whatsoever for mayorship beyond simply winning the position.
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The Implacable Detective has lost the majority of her official support, beyond the Mayan slaver-gods living behind her bathroom mirror.
The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is suddenly willing to compromise on key issues, and the prisoner's honey she's been collecting is being gleefully sampled by the Stags.
I'd consider those confirmed offenses to be of greater import than these assumptions and heresay against our Mayor Feducci. And even if that claim had even a grain of truth I'd still back him for being the candidate most likely to shake up the out-of-control establishment. At least I know what I'm getting, and it sure won't be more of the same.
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It also doesn't seem that Feducci would allow some to elevate themselves, considering he chose as his rewared from Hell to transport and guard Devils' slaves. Are the slaves just not counted as "all" or are they the links of the chain we are supposed to climb?
I'd remind you that those "slaves" were taken during the botched invasion of Hell, a campaign where London is unquestionably the aggressor. Those "slaves" are prisoners of war, performing labor during their sentence. OOC Even the Geneva Convention has sections that permits forced labor using prisoners of war, as long as it's not hazardous to their health. Those gentlemen are able bodied soldiers, I'm pretty sure there are worse things they could be doing besides rowing a boat. As for those unfortunate souls who claim Feducci is a "slaver", I'm sure that former POWs feel bitter about their time in captivity, but that doesn't make that claim of slavery and less untrue.
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Hubris Glamore
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The more I think about the potential of the Grand Prosecution being implemented, the more I like the sound of it, if simply because it's a task the mayor alone could not oversee. You know who would be perfectly suited for a glorious return to head up such a taskforce and has been missing too long?
The Last Constable.
She's an ideal protege for the Implacable Detective as far as rooting out corruption goes in the face of institutional opposition and would finally have the backing to make progress.
(Also I'd love an opportunity to switch to supporting her over the Cheery Man, I was much more gung ho when I first started playing and there is alas not a current fate option to remedy that. But that's another matter entirely)
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Isaac Zienfried
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...I hadn't considered the possibility of TLC coming back if the Detective gets her way.
Oh no, Anne would kill me if I switched sides. I'M IN TOO DEEP, GUYS.
Edward Warren wrote:
I'm sure that former POWs feel bitter about their time in captivity, but that doesn't make that claim of slavery and less untrue.
Just something I feel obliged to point out: I'd advise against citing real-world precedents and then making a statement that could be construed as belittling the rigors of POW internment. I don't think that's how it was intended, but it could be read that way, which is more dangerous than a Shattering Force in their Hard-Wearing outfit.
As someone said to me after one post was taken poorly, "in-character it might have been fine, but half-in and half-out doesn't usually work out too well." You start citing real-world stuff, and it pulls people out of the Fallen London mindset, and some people have a little more inertia when it comes to switching it on and off.
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Anne Auclair
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The Last Constable is coming back anyway - her story is one of the scheduled 2017 updates. So you can have your Campaigner and your Constable too.
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Angus Turner
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Isaac Zienfried wrote:
Oh no, Anne would kill me if I switched sides. I'M IN TOO DEEP, GUYS.
You know, no one follows you inside the voting booth. You need not switch sides officially.
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Isaac Zienfried
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Angus Turner wrote:
Isaac Zienfried wrote:
Oh no, Anne would kill me if I switched sides. I'M IN TOO DEEP, GUYS.
You know, no one follows you inside the voting booth. You need not switch sides officially.
Have you met the girl? She'd know.
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Hubris Glamore
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Oh I know she's coming back but I could think of no better enforcer for ID's squad of corruption busters.
As a supporter of the detective I wholly endorse your potential defection.
As an aside though, I have to credit Anne's tenacity during the campaign. It's been rather delightful to watch. There's a part of me that almost wants the DTC to triumph just to see her efforts rewarded. Almost.
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