Jules Asimov
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6/15/2017
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I really want my bohemian to be high enough that I can get it to Forty from the conversion. How high do you think I need to get it, given the ease of getting bohemian connection points. What do you think the rate of conversion will be for it, as well as other connected? 15? 20?
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Lady Sapho Byron
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6/15/2017
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This is what annoys me the most about the move to Renown. By spreading the change out over months, FBG has created a Connected grind-race: as the conversion rate gets higher for each Faction, players ratchet up their Connected for the next Faction ... which then pushes the conversion rate higher, etc., etc. I do wish the switch had been made all at once or in two or three batches.
In all events, this is a classic study of game theory. The best strategy would be for everyone to agree not to raise Connected above a certain level, thereby keeping the conversion rate reasonable. But since that is logistically impossible (and if it were possible, there might be cheaters), the strategy that individuals pursue results in the very ills they complain of. Including me ... for the past two weeks I've been spending most of my actions on raising Connected: Bohemians.
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Optimatum
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6/16/2017
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Absintheuse wrote:
Bohemian, Church, Revolutionaries, and Society will be the next factions to receive an update during the Fallen London reworks later this summer.
Sounds to me like it'll be the end of summer at the latest.
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xKiv
Posts: 846
6/17/2017
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Possible breakpoints for level 50, from factor 5 to factor 20:
271, 321, 371, 421, 471, 521, 571, 621, 671, 721, 771, 821, 871, 921, 971, 1021.
If you are grinding that high, go all the way to 1021. Don't lose 2 renown to not mathing.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
6/20/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
It's a suckers game :P
True enough, but raising Renown using the favours system is worse.
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
6/18/2017
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I think 621 has been the harshest so far.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
6/15/2017
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Kaigen wrote:
You could grind Constables directly by selling information in the Flit for around 11 CP per action ...
But why would the vast majority of players do that? I get that a hardcore minority always wants to be first and on top, but surely the thousands of players who don't participate in these forums would have better or more fun things to do? I just don't think that pre-conversion grinding has that much of an effect on the final ratios. Seems more likely that FBG started converting the factions that people were less Connected to, and that's why the Connected/Renown ratios have gone up rather than staying the same.
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Harlocke
Posts: 506
6/15/2017
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The real problem is that it isn't necessarily possible for people to get 50 renown in their favorite faction without exploiting the conversion. That sets up this mad scramble for 50 out of fear of being forever locked out. Perhaps new items will make 50 renown possible in every faction regardless of your specialization, but if not this is your only chance to achieve your RP goals.
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
6/16/2017
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Church, Bohemian, Society, and Revolutionaries are next. They didn't say which order those would be converted in, though; only that it'd be the end of summer at the earliest.
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An Individual
Posts: 589
6/16/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
Church, Bohemian, Society, and Revolutionaries are next. They didn't say which order those would be converted in, though; only that it'd be the end of summer at the earliest.
Thanks. Given what happened with Devils and Constables I wouldn't rule out it all happening at once. Guess I better get the grind going on some of those in the vain hope that I won't spend the next few years drawing op cards and praying for Favours.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
6/17/2017
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Well, hopefully 1000 Bohemian is enough to reach 50, but I won't hold my breath.
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Plynkes
Posts: 631
6/15/2017
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That all assumes that they take into account all our grinding prior to the conversion. They may decide upon their rate well before that, when the announcements are made. For all we know, player activity may not influence it at all, it may just be based on what's possible. Has it ever been definitively stated how they decide on the conversion rate? Is the idea that player grinding is actually making things harder anything more than the tittle-tattle of our little sewing circle?
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Luminen Walker
Posts: 172
6/15/2017
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12 is the current highest if I remember correctly. By that standard you need atleast 621 connected to have 50 renown. I would shoot for between 500 and 700 to be safe. Anything higher than that for 40 and people will probably throw a fit.
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Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
6/15/2017
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Since I want Bohemians 50, I'm shooting for the moon with them. 744 and climbing, here.
For most people it might be most economical to just cash in their bohemian for honey at the shuttered palace and grind up renown the normal way.
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Koenig
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6/18/2017
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That said, Bohemian is probably the easiest of all the factions aside from Society to level up, so it will definitely have a higher level.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
6/19/2017
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Trying to guess conversion rates is like playing the lottery. It's a suckers game :P
Cash in your Connections.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
6/20/2017
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My advice, set a goal for yourself that is at least 200 level higher than the last conversion, then add another 200 for good measure, and another 200 if you really want to be safe.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
6/20/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
Absintheuse wrote:
Bohemian, Church, Revolutionaries, and Society will be the next factions to receive an update during the Fallen London reworks later this summer.
Sounds to me like it'll be the end of summer at the latest.
Possibly after the Election Festival - as they'd ideally want the Mayoral card to use the favor system.
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Jules Asimov
Posts: 95
6/17/2017
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What do people think is the absolute highest the conversion rate will be?
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