Optimatum
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Considering you'd have to sail back to London to convert those Favours every seven cycles, it's almost certainly not worth it. If you're in the neighborhood, sure, but not worth paying a visit.
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loredeluxe
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I used Mutton Isle to grind Docks favors, so I'm used to doing carousels of ambiguous utility.
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Optimatum
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Don't forget that the Polythreme voyage is much longer. Mutton Island just requires getting Approaching Journey's End to 10, Polythreme requires getting it to 7 and then getting it to 10.
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Anne Auclair
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I think it's important to remember that the system is only half implemented. After all, if you came upon a house that was still under construction, you wouldn't expect it to have running water, power, or furniture. Once the new system is finally in place, attention will turn to how best to fully integrate it with the rest of Fallen London. Probably, hopefully, with an eye towards player feedback.
I generally like the new system. Connected represents both connections and favors and this uneasy combination means that if you trade in too much Connection you lose your whole relationship with said faction, which is just weird. Connected also makes it somewhat prohibitive to switch your Closest To, so you have to resign yourself to starting at zero with the faction you are leaving.
I agree that story's should start giving renown at some point. I also think there should be a way, ideally at the Carnival, to raise renown without having to buy a faction item. First, getting renown entirely through a faction aligned item makes renown feel a little compartmentalized and narrow - like you're interacting with the item rather then the faction - and some alternative methods would eliminate this feeling. Second, items like the Constable's Badge and Slowcake's Exceptional's are expensive and it seems an unnecessary barrier to entry for new players to force them to collect those items in order to raise their renown above five. Third, one particular concern of mine is that the renown system is going to hollow out Miss Plenty's Carnival. Right now the Carnival is a nice place to go if you, say, traded in some Connected and need a little more, plus it's fun to mingle with the various groups of Fallen London. After you reach renown five with a group you can no longer mingle with them at the Bigtop or the Sideshows, and this makes the Carnival feel oddly empty.
It's okay if they want to place a hard limit on the favors that can be earned at the Carnival, but having some additional options at the Carnival to raise renown above 5 would be great. It would make renown feel more integrated.
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Optimatum
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If you came upon a house under construction, you wouldn't expect it to have all the features of a complete house, but you wouldn't ask someone to live there and make use of the facilities either.
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Anne Auclair
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Optimatum wrote:
If you came upon a house under construction, you wouldn't expect it to have all the features of a complete house, but you wouldn't ask someone to live there and make use of the facilities either.
I recall that there's an old Tom Hanks movie with exactly that setup. I think it's a remake of an old Carey Grant movie. Anyway, in the Tom Hanks movie, living in a house while it was under construction was literally their only option, as they didn't have enough money to live elsewhere while fixing up the property. If Failbetter could carry out the entire changeover in one go, I'm sure they would. But there are hard limits on how much they can do while working on many other FL projects (such as the coming story updates, the second Mayoral election, and the Festival of the Zee).
Point being, we've probably got a ways to go before things are finalized.
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Ben
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6/6/2017
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I thought you where talking about the money pit, yha, good movie.
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