genesis
Posts: 924
6/5/2017
|
An Individual wrote:
Having solo options under a heading that explicitly says "invite a friend" seems like a poor choice. This isn't 100% new as the second chance trade in options used to be there anyway. But that doesn't mean it doesn't still annoy me and won't confuse new players.
Agree. It feels that it should be something like
- "Engage in something intellectual!"
- "Engage in something shadowy!"
- "Engage in something dangerous!"
- "Engage in something artistic!"
Even so. Sleeping or nursing are not very dangerous, praying is not very artistic...
--
http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin
Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
|
|
|
0
link
|
Siankan
Posts: 1048
6/5/2017
|
genesis wrote:
Even so. Sleeping or nursing are not very dangerous, praying is not very artistic...
Maybe the church has really excellent music?
--
Prof. Sian Kan, at your service.
|
|
|
0
link
|
Passionario
Posts: 777
6/5/2017
|
Siankan wrote:
genesis wrote:
Even so. Sleeping or nursing are not very dangerous, praying is not very artistic...
Maybe the church has really excellent music?
Given how many AP I've sank into writing church hymns at the Court, I would certainly hope so!
--
Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending
Passion: Profile, Appearance
|
|
|
+2
link
|
VioletBandit
Posts: 100
6/5/2017
|
My Dangerous character is currently playing chess with the Boatman, so I can't check if the options are there for her and just aren't showing for my main because she's not Seen With anyone, or lacks any other requirement, but... Have evening of risk and excitment and surprising evening been retired? That creates a bit of a RP problem if they have, as the remaining options don't really suit my character who is dating another playing character. And come to think of it, should my Watchful main ever be Seen With another playing character, she would rather be able to take them out on surprising evenings than just take honey all the time.
--
Violet Bandit, my main account. Extraordinary Mind and player of the Marvellous.
Dauntless Damsel, my alt. Shattering Force and Vake hunter.
|
|
|
0
link
|
Bashir Vassar
Posts: 9
6/5/2017
|
An Individual wrote:
Having solo options under a heading that explicitly says "invite a friend" seems like a poor choice. This isn't 100% new as the second chance trade in options used to be there anyway. But that doesn't mean it doesn't still annoy me and won't confuse new players.
I have to agree as well, this particular change seems both nonsensical and confusing for newer players and frustrating for everyone else. I would have never thought to look for a solo activity under a heading that involves inviting others, and I also don't really care for having to click through twice each time to get back to the options, given at least "Time in Bed" doesn't feature a "Try again" button.
Sorry guys and gals... I appreciate the desire for organizing things, but this isn't the right approach. If it's absolutely necessary to group these activities under one umbrella, I would at least make a new category for solo activities such as sleeping or praying. It would still be frustrating to have to click more to get to those options, but it would at least make semantic sense. If you do take that approach, perhaps "Onwards!" could be tweaked to return to the "solo" umbrella category instead of the root lodgings path? That would alleviate both issues.
--
"Do not try and bend the Spirifer's fork, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth... there is no fork. Then you will see it is not the fork that bends, it is only your soul." ―Bashir Vassar, Infernal Meditations
Social Savant & Dilettante. Purveyor of Souls. Wiki Archivist. Former protégé of the romantic egotist, Nigel Overstreet. Requests are welcome, gifts are titillating.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Optimatum
Posts: 3666
6/5/2017
|
I don't quite understand why 'Time in Bed' takes an action to access in the first place, given all the options within take several actions themselves. Why not have the redirect option be zero actions?
--
Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
 Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
|
|
|
0
link
|
lolahighwind
Posts: 27
6/5/2017
|
*hopes and dreams* Have there been any changes to Suspicious Loitering's effects?
--
Aquila Highwind, the Adamant Monster-Hunter
Dionysus Highwind, the Lost Wastrel (Gone NORTH)
Ruby Valdez, the Opulent Operative
|
|
|
0
link
|
suinicide
Posts: 2409
6/5/2017
|
lolahighwind wrote:
*hopes and dreams* Have there been any changes to Suspicious Loitering's effects?
I'm afraid not, but accepting a suspicion reduction request can give you second chances now. (And no menace increase)
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
|
|
|
0
link
|
Parelle
Posts: 1084
6/6/2017
|
Huh. Am I just missing on the ablity to dupe and increase scandal?
--
Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous.
pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
|
|
|
0
link
|
fiscusnimbus
Posts: 11
6/6/2017
|
Organisation aside, I do love the meatier storylets the reciever gets from social actions. I'm not sure if the change has also been applied to the Dante's Grill option, but I hope it will be applied for when Beatrice's Tea Shop becomes available (hype!).
And I'd like the option to throw scones at other patrons and pour tea down the socks of others while we're at it.
|
|
|
0
link
|
Kaijyuu
Posts: 1047
6/6/2017
|
Parelle wrote:
Huh. Am I just missing on the ablity to dupe and increase scandal?
Duping is there, under artistic stuff.
--
Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
|
|
|
0
link
|
dov
Posts: 2580
6/6/2017
|
Has anyone found where the option to reject a Patron is now located?
The Patron can withdraw their Patronage via the "Deal with matters of Patronage!" storylet. But what about the Protégé?
--
 Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
|
|
|
0
link
|
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
6/6/2017
|
suinicide wrote:
lolahighwind wrote:
*hopes and dreams* Have there been any changes to Suspicious Loitering's effects?
I'm afraid not, but accepting a suspicion reduction request can give you second chances now. (And no menace increase)
It does increase Suspicion in exchange for getting a note. If your friend duped you, you get 0.5 Echoes of Wild Words instead.
I am liking the new reworked Coffee storylet; being able to send a message back make conversations much easier. I still think rejection shouldn't cost an action, though. Hopefully a similar storylet for Chess/Sparring Bout will be available; they are very much a back-and-forth affair too.
edited by Estelle Knoht on 6/6/2017
--
Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
|
|
|
0
link
|
Kharsirr Lynx
Posts: 318
6/6/2017
|
It does increase Suspicion in exchange for getting a note. If your friend duped you, you get 0.5 Echoes of Wild Words instead.
Nope.
For Nightmares and Wounds the helper is initiator; helper decides if he/she brings potion or poison, so to say, and helpee has no way to distinguish one from another. Helpee can decide if he wants Insight or more nightmare healing, for example, but if he was poisoned, he will receive neither.
For Suspicion and Scandal it works similar for the most part, except helpee is the initiator, and he/she can decide being honest or not. Helper then can choose his minor price for that help, but if helpee had been dishonest, no price will be paid, albeit it still looks like it will, until the very moment.
edited by Kharsirr Lynx on 6/6/2017
edited by Kharsirr Lynx on 6/6/2017
--
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Kharsirr%20Lynx
|
|
|
0
link
|
dov
Posts: 2580
6/6/2017
|
Estelle Knoht wrote:
I still think rejection shouldn't cost an action, though.
Absolutely! If rejecting an offer for help still costs an action this should be fixed.
Since you can't decline in the message tab anymore (must choose "respond" to launch the relevant storylet), this means that you'll have no way to clear your Messages queue without spending actions!
--
Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
|
|
|
0
link
|
BlabberingMat
Posts: 385
6/6/2017
|
You can now also "study friend's Nightmares". Judging by description, it seems to work similarly to poisoning. I have enough Nightmares, if someone wants to try it out 
--
Alt-Lana Loter
Main-Always Drunk Slav
"To see a world in a grain of sand, and Heaven in wild flowers.
To hold an infinity in palm of hand and Eternity in an hour”
Finally, I am Crooked Cross! Feel free to send invitations for Salon!
As of June 5th, 1895, I am London's newest Legendary Charisma!
The current progress in Mega Soul Grind: 53727/1 639 121 Souls
|
|
|
0
link
|
Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
6/6/2017
|
BlabberingMat wrote:
You can now also "study friend's Nightmares". Judging by description, it seems to work similarly to poisoning. I have enough Nightmares, if someone wants to try it out
That's what it does! 
--
ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing
Achievement list if you're feeling bored!
I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats.
No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
|
|
|
0
link
|
Ben
Posts: 657
6/6/2017
|
I've always asked, what if lodgings could be upgraded?
What if the home comfort slot just wasn't THERE without at least a 3 card lodging?
What if there was a home comfort that would let you make your home, whatever home you where in, into a remote location? An angry guard dog (and yes, maybe the price would be that it would also lock a few beneficial things)...
I've perhaps missed it in the scroll... does loitering still kill society?
--
The wind has no destination.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Slyblue
Posts: 224
6/6/2017
|
Is there anyone else missing a few Seen With SAs? Last time I checked, I could only invite people to sip honey or hang out with a third-wheeling chaperone.
--
The Smiling Devil • The Curt Licentiate • The Keen-Eyed Captain
"For hearts of truest mettle, absence doth join and Time doth settle."
|
|
|
0
link
|
Ben
Posts: 657
6/6/2017
|
wait, wait, wait, WHAT?
"not increased from 21 due to being more then 11"
... the limit on second chance items from these new lodging events is now 11, instead of 21?
NERF!
--
The wind has no destination.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
|
|
|
0
link
|