Kylestien
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Optimatum wrote:
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- Bag a Legend: You hear hushed rumours of a "Vake" from other monster hunters and decide to investigate and hunt said creature yourself. Apparently, there's "a standing reward of four million Echoes".
I will be very disappointed if the final Bag a Legend! update comes out and I end up getting cheated out of my 25 Firkins of Hesperidean Cider.
edited by Optimatum on 5/23/2017
You can have your 25 Ciders if the other 3 ambitions give out what was promised at the start too. I want my heart's desire dammit!
...Still need to figure out what that is mind but I'm sure I will think of something.
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dov
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5/23/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
dov wrote:
- Bag a Legend: You hear hushed rumours of a "Vake" from other monster hunters and decide to investigate and hunt said creature yourself. Apparently, there's "a standing reward of four million Echoes".
I will be very disappointed if the final Bag a Legend! update comes out and I end up getting cheated out of my 25 Firkins of Hesperidean Cider.
Or, you know, 24 Cider firkins and 1 Heptagoat (or any other combination of those totaling ~25).
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Absintheuse
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5/23/2017
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Here to confirm that the upcoming update to Light Fingers is indeed the penultimate one (Heart's Desire, Nemesis and Bag a Legend have already received their penultimate updates).
In the future, each ambition will receive a further, final update, though we're still deciding which order they'll happen in.
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Estelle Knoht
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5/23/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
dov wrote:
- Bag a Legend: You hear hushed rumours of a "Vake" from other monster hunters and decide to investigate and hunt said creature yourself. Apparently, there's "a standing reward of four million Echoes".
I will be very disappointed if the final Bag a Legend! update comes out and I end up getting cheated out of my 25 Firkins of Hesperidean Cider.
Who knows, there might just be some spiteful soul out there whose Heart's Desire is to cheat Vake-Hunters from getting their millions of Echoes!
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dov
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5/23/2017
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Absintheuse wrote:
Here to confirm that the upcoming update to Light Fingers is indeed the penultimate one (Heart's Desire, Nemesis and Bag a Legend have already received their penultimate updates).
In the future, each ambition will receive a further, final update, though we're still deciding which order they'll happen in.
Thanks a lot for the confirmation!
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Anne Auclair
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5/23/2017
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
dov wrote:
- Bag a Legend: You hear hushed rumours of a "Vake" from other monster hunters and decide to investigate and hunt said creature yourself. Apparently, there's "a standing reward of four million Echoes".
I will be very disappointed if the final Bag a Legend! update comes out and I end up getting cheated out of my 25 Firkins of Hesperidean Cider.
Who knows, there might just be some spiteful soul out there whose Heart's Desire is to cheat Vake-Hunters from getting their millions of Echoes!
That would be me :P
Seriously though, who even HAS that sort of cash?! In Sunless Sea 30,000 echoes is considered a considerable fortune. In FL Hesperidean Cider, which is brewed from the trees of life and makes you immortal, is only 160,000 echoes! Has anyone official offered to cough up the four million, or is this just one of those wishful things "everybody knows" but no one has actually verified?
edited by Anne Auclair on 5/23/2017
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heavensdark
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5/23/2017
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Oh what wonderful news! I am glad to have stuck around then. Seeing these updates, especially to Light Fingers, is something to look forward to indeed.
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Jolanda Swan
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5/23/2017
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This is Fallen London. I doubt any of our Ambitions will play out the way it is supposed to.
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Optimatum
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5/23/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Seriously though, who even HAS that sort of cash?! In Sunless Sea 30,000 echoes is considered a considerable fortune. In FL Hesperidean Cider, which is brewed from the trees of life and makes you immortal, is only 160,000 echoes! Has anyone official offered to cough up the four million, or is this just one of those wishful things "everybody knows" but no one has actually verified?
I think it was supposed to be one of the Department of Menace Eradication bounties, in theory.
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Siankan
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5/23/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Seriously though, who even HAS that sort of cash?! In Sunless Sea 30,000 echoes is considered a considerable fortune. In FL Hesperidean Cider, which is brewed from the trees of life and makes you immortal, is only 160,000 echoes! Has anyone official offered to cough up the four million, or is this just one of those wishful things "everybody knows" but no one has actually verified?
I think it was supposed to be one of the Department of Menace Eradication bounties, in theory.
It is mentioned at the start of the Ambition that the Department offers a 4mil Echo bounty on the Vake. Even at that point, however, the likelihood of collecting that bounty, Vake or no Vake, is not presented in a terribly optimistic light.
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Kaijyuu
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5/23/2017
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The out of universe explanation would probably be that the game was young when they wrote that and likely they didn't have a solid idea on how much that would actually be.
The in-game explanation would be either that the bounty is a ludicrous and obviously unpayable amount, or that it's given by a Master since no one else could possibly afford it.
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Akernis
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5/23/2017
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Blaine Davidson wrote:
I would hope that we could try the other ambitions, but I'm not so secretly hoping for a new set of Ambitions to be tempted with.
I would think that they did something along the lines of rewarding the completion of the Ambitions with one or more very strong items. Perhaps somewhere between the best profession items and the Overgoat in scale. And then you can use the tea leaves to reset your Ambition which would result in the loss of said items.
I too would love a new set of ambitions. Though I know how challenging work they are. Perhaps they could function as higher tier Ambitions stating at lvl 100 in the stats and be the mid-level major story arcs of the game. With the normal ambitions being the first and the Destinies being the finale.
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- The Ambitions are designed to progress with the character. At first, there's hardly any challenge to make it accessible for new characters. Then the challenges increase, so that your character has to grow a bit and collect resources before pursuing the Ambition further. Opening the rest of the Ambitions for end-game characters who completed theirs would ruin the designed pacing of playing it, since an advanced character can blaze through 90% of the content.
While that makes sense from a gameplay point of view, I don't really feel that functions from a story perspective. I have now tried playing one in the step-by-step manner throughout the game and recently tried another when I was high enough level to take it in one go, and I will have to say the latter option was far more entertaining. It always felt weird to break off the ambition to go pursue other matters, especially if it feels like urgency is a factor:
"I have to hurry to save person X from peril Y, before its too late, oh but first let me just go through the entire Labyrinth of Tigers and complete four epic works of art for the Empress' court."
- In many cases I had to go back and re-read the ambition to even make sure I even knew what it was I was doing. Which have become even more challenging now that 'Reminiscing about Ambition' has been retired and the various echoes of the ambition are scatted all throughout the Journal.
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Optimatum
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5/23/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
The in-game explanation would be either that the bounty is a ludicrous and obviously unpayable amount, or that it's given by a Master since no one else could possibly afford it.
Which Master would be most likely to want Veils dead?
...Mr Eaten's gonna give us 4 million echoes, sweet
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Akernis
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5/23/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
Which Master would be most likely to want Veils dead?
...Mr Eaten's gonna give us 4 million echoes, sweet
[spoiler]Well, since the entire thing was clearly a game Mr. Veils used to hunt, there is the possibility that he is the one having promised the reward, so by definition if we were to collect the reward, we won't be able to collect, as there is no one to pay.[/spoiler]
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Siankan
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5/23/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
The out of universe explanation would probably be that the game was young when they wrote that and likely they didn't have a solid idea on how much that would actually be.
I doubt anyone had such a poor grasp on the mechanics of their own game to not think four million Echoes was exorbitant. That's the entire point, really - that the bounty is ludicrously, unbelievably large.
[spoiler] It becomes very clear over the course of the ambition that this unrealistic bounty is monster-hunter bait.[/spoiler]
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Tofan Bogdan
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5/23/2017
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Im sad that I cannot get my constables and hell connected to over 400. at constables im really close to 400. But happy lots of new stories will be continued.
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Anne Auclair
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5/23/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
Kaijyuu wrote:
The in-game explanation would be either that the bounty is a ludicrous and obviously unpayable amount, or that it's given by a Master since no one else could possibly afford it.
Which Master would be most likely to want Veils dead?
During last year's Festival of the Zee, the Mayor mentioned that Wines and Stones were pressing her to make life more difficult for the Vake. Wines has a very complicated relationship with Veils, but we don't really know anything about Stones' hostility, do we? And Stones could easily have 4 million echoes worth of gems, assuming several thousand years of ruthless hoarding. Maybe Stones' is the one who is behind the bounty?
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Blaine Davidson
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5/23/2017
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My Heart's Desire is to do the other Ambitions and any future Ambitions without any restrictions.
What now FailBetter?
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Anne Auclair
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5/23/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
There's the Once-Dashing Smuggler.
Oh yeah, I forgot about him!
Oh dear, if he runs on a disagreeable platform then my character is going to be so conflicted. She really likes him.
Come to think of it, there's also the Bandaged Poissonnier...but he doesn't seem like Mayor material to me?
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Optimatum
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5/24/2017
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If we're including Sunless Sea characters, there's also the First Curator and Obsequious Steward. It seems rather unlikely we'd get a character who doesn't actually appear in FL itself, though.
If we want to stretch even further, there's the Tomb-Lion and Bandaged Raven. If cats are intelligent and can talk, why not have feline politicians?
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