Anchovies
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5/2/2017
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As in, what exact letter is each of the seven in the Name-Which-Burns? Is there any indication of the Name's spelling anywhere in SSea? Do any of you have personal theories about it? I don't know of any first-party lore covering the specific contents of the Name, but here's a few ideas I've come up with after thinking it over:
- T H E N A M E is a quite literal-minded answer
- although the old theories about a connection between Salt and Mr. Eaten don't hold much water, both C A N D L E S and M R E A T E N have seven letters. I think it's a cute coincidence.
- alternately, Failbetter didn't ever bother to come up with a single particular spelling and decided on 7 letters for the significance of the number
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Pumpkinhead
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5/2/2017
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If you wrote down the 7 correspondence letters of the Name-Which-Burns, you would probably become the Scholar-Who-Burns.
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Anchovies
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7/26/2017
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Another theory: perhaps we do learn the Name-Which-Burn's letters in-game. A single Correspondence sigil represents an entire concept. Speaking (or writing, or otherwise enacting) a seven-letter sequence of Correspondence sigils enacts their composite product upon the world. Perhaps the reverse is also true: carrying out the product of a Correspondence sequence imparts knowledge of its letters. The seven letters of the Name-Which-Burns are "Touch of the South", "Western Stigma", "Scars of the North", "Mark of the East", "that fierce old thing in the dark", "that place of white and black, so cold after its season of heat", and "the East". Salt wrote the name in Frostfound, before it became TRAVELLER and went East. By following in Salt's footsteps, the player character can go to Frostfound, write the name, and become the TRAVELLER RETURNING before journeying East once more.
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6/25/2017
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Torchwood202 wrote:
Let me just solve this debate once and for all. Listen up, appetizers, I will only write this once.
That doesn't mean it'll be here when you read it again.
The name is as follows...
The first letter means "M" and "C" at the same time.
The second letter is portrayed as a "R" and an "A".
The third letter is supposed to mean "E", but it was once known as "N". No one wants to finish that argument.
The fourth letter, "A", and the fourth letter, "D", are cousins. No one is around to finish that argument.
The fifth letter, "T", can only be used when referring to a verb. Otherwise, the fifth letter means "L".
The sixth letter means "E" and "E". Both are pronounced independently from the other. Not pronounced differently, independently.
The seventh letter, commonly (read: mistakenly) referred to by the Church as "sin" is actually "S" and "N". Remember this trick to help remember: The Name ends in SN, the name ends in sin.
There you have it. The stuff Failbetter didn't want you to know.
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Anchovies
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6/25/2017
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The name-which-burns most closely translates into English as "be sure to drink your Ovaltine".
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5/30/2017
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Let me just solve this debate once and for all. Listen up, appetizers, I will only write this once.
That doesn't mean it'll be here when you read it again.
The name is as follows...
The first letter means "M" and "C" at the same time.
The second letter is portrayed as a "R" and an "A".
The third letter is supposed to mean "E", but it was once known as "N". No one wants to finish that argument.
The fourth letter, "A", and the fourth letter, "D", are cousins. No one is around to finish that argument.
The fifth letter, "T", can only be used when referring to a verb. Otherwise, the fifth letter means "L".
The sixth letter means "E" and "E". Both are pronounced independently from the other. Not pronounced differently, independently.
The seventh letter, commonly (read: mistakenly) referred to by the Church as "sin" is actually "S" and "N". Remember this trick to help remember: The Name ends in SN, the name ends in sin.
There you have it. The stuff Failbetter didn't want you to know.
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Anchovies
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5/4/2017
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There's also the icon for the "Letters of the Name-Which Burns" quality, as shown here.
Unless this sigil appears elsewhere, I'd say it's reasonable to consider it a transcription of the Name-Which-Burns. Perhaps it is written with seven strokes? It's tricky to figure out which parts of it make up individual strokes, but here's my take on it. The only significant assumption I make is that the two pairs of fang-like marks are each a single stroke, inscribed with some sort of double-pronged implement.
Left island, spiral, right branch, center spiral, underline, center fangs, bottom fangs. Boom, seven, done. Thoughts?
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Optimatum
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5/4/2017
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I highly doubt that, being seven letters in the Correspondence, the Name-Which-Burns could be transcribed as only one. It seems far more likely to me that FBG just used a random symbol to illustrate the story, as they tend to do in both SSea and FL, rather than putting in the work to make seven unique symbols just for this. I checked the game files and this does only show up around the Name-Which-Burns storyline, but then again one of the other symbols only shows up in one context, and it may well appear in FL where I can't search for it. (And judging by other Correspondence symbols and the narrowing towards one end a la brushstrokes, I'm pretty sure both those fangs are two strokes, making it nine total. It would be pretty cool if it was seven strokes exactly though, nice thinking. I wonder if any of the other symbols are...)
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Azothi
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5/2/2017
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The Name-Which-Burns is composed of seven letters of the Correspondence, if I recall correctly (given the nature of Salt, this only makes sense), and therefore shouldn't have an English or even human equivalent. Good catch about Candles and Mr. Eaten having seven letters each though; I don't know if it was coincidental or intentional, but it's nice either way.
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Optimatum
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7/26/2017
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An interesting thought! Though wouldn't that mean two different letters were about the East?
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Kunabee
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7/29/2017
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Optimatum wrote:
An interesting thought! Though wouldn't that mean two different letters were about the East?
Just joined the forums, but have been playing FL for a couple of years now. I would say SS, but I only played it for 2 hours when I first got it (and joined Fallen London) and haven't touched it since until a couple of days ago.
"Mark of the East" and "the East" mean two different things. The noun in the first phrase is "mark", with "of the East" serving as an adjective. "East" itself is a noun.
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Anchovies
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8/28/2017
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Here's a thing from Kingeater's Castle.
The Name-Which-Burns is stitched in fire across the black air. The Exile falls to her knees. Without hesitation, your crew joins her. Your name bursts scalding from your throat. You will always bear the scars. So Frostfound is where the Name-Which-Burns is learned, and Kingeater's Castle is where the Name is spoken. The Name isn't mentioned while the captain makes their sacrifices, so I think the sacrifices are not themselves part of the Name. If your past and memories are your offering to the Kingeater, then the Name is the fire which consumes the offering. The Name is not being burned; the Name is doing the burning, and what it is burning is you.
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