Pumpkinhead
Posts: 516
3/31/2017
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I thought you could make storylets appear in any setting? You definitely can in Storynexus, although who knows how similar the FL engine is to that anymore.
But thinking on it more, it's irrelevant, because a new area/setting would be smarter.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
3/31/2017
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For players who have to be away for multiple weeks, perhaps there should be an zero-action option in this special area to extend the pause by a week, so players could customize the hiatus length as needed. I'm not quite sure how this would play out with the living stories idea; maybe the "unpause" living story would just reduce the pause quality by 1 and set a new living story in another week? Living stories are server-intensive though, so maybe there's some method I'm not thinking of that would allow only a single living story for the very end of the hiatus...
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I don't think anyone is going to want to mess with the action coding, which has "game-breaking" written all over it.
What changes would be necessary? I suspect that, like similar browser games, FL only actually gives a player actions when they open the site. It's much easier on servers to record in the database the most recent time each player's browser made a request to the server, and to calculate gains in actions/cards whenever a request is made. (A request would be made whenever the webpage is loaded or the action timer hits 0 while the page is open.) If building up actions and cards while away is a concern, we already know it's possible for in-game options to grant actions, so it's likely possible for an in-game hiatus option to take away actions and cards as well.
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aegisaglow
Posts: 202
3/31/2017
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Besides the technical challenges, the pause idea seems unnecessarily harsh--someone doesn't want their notability to decay, so they're locked out of their account for an entire week?
Honestly, I don't think much would be lost by removing notability decay entirely. It doesn't add that much to the game, and what it does add is mainly worry and hassle. (In my opinion removing it wouldn't even diminish the accomplishment of achieving high levels of notability--when I was climbing to Notability 15 maintaining my current notability was never an issue, since the Making Waves required always vastly exceeded my Notability anyway.)
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Emain Ablach
Posts: 348
3/31/2017
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You will be missed. I understand your reasons for leaving, mine were almost the same (I also felt a lack of updates for ambitions and old contents, and I'll never thank Alexis Kennedy enough for providing an ending before I abandon the game).
The Notability is a lot of stress to maintain (and to gain as well), but as other said you can play without it. You'll miss it when new professions will be out but... well, we don't know when that'll happen. For the "personnality" of your character, I never understood why people felt any unvolontary change to their character was destroying it. I see it as an opportunity to give a new element to the story of my character, to flesh him out better.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
3/31/2017
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I think the game should add more options to trade Notability for Useful/Cool Stuff. That way people with high Notability who are taking a vacation can cash in their Notability in a useful way...as can people who get 15 Notability for whatever reason but don't want to maintain it for long. Like, how many really high end items would 15 Notability be worth?
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An Individual
Posts: 589
3/31/2017
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We'll be sorry to see you go. Personally, I've never sweated notability outside of the isolated instances where I actually need it. I usually end up hitting a static 8 or 9 thanks to a mix of opportunity cards I play when they show up. That lets me get Surprise Packages from An Unsigned Letter without risk of failure which is nice. But I tanked mine during Hallowmas on the quest to get all the companions and didn't really miss it in the slow months where it was gradually rebuilt.
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MidnightVoyager
Posts: 858
3/31/2017
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I don't even want ways to burn it, really. I'd rather never see it again after the final profession levels unless I need it for something right then. It is the sole reason I keep it up, and I still manage to lose one every so often, much to my irritation.
I'm not able to "gradually rebuild" it either, I have to make myself sit down and grind it back up or it'll never come back to the right level. Hell, I've never been able to get it over 12 without giving up because I have no current need for it. It's the ultimate irritating grind that has no specific time for its end goal.
Also, it's why I stopped playing alternate accounts even though I wanted to see stuff I'd never see otherwise. Notability being needed for anything just made me immediately stop bothering with them.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
4/1/2017
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Again, is there any reason to maintain high Notability besides the election festival?
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
4/1/2017
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The unsigned message card has a notability challenge that rewards a surprise package.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
4/1/2017
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I may follow you one day soon. Fallen London has left me with nothing but a passive grind for my efforts. All my achievements in the game are for naught, with little to nothing for my persona to actually do with their fame and fortune.
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
4/1/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Again, is there any reason to maintain high Notability besides the election festival?
In addition to the other uses (and future uses) of Notability on the An Unsigned Message card mentioned by other posters there is this: if one wants to grind one's way up to 15 to take maximum advantage of 'Will you execute our denouement?', one must, in a sense, maintain high levels of Notability until the zenith is reached.
But other than the election and personal desire to do so, I can think of no other reason to permanently retain a high (10+) Notability.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
4/1/2017
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Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Again, is there any reason to maintain high Notability besides the election festival?
In addition to the other uses (and future uses) of Notability on the An Unsigned Message card mentioned by other posters there is this: if one wants to grind one's way up to 15 to take maximum advantage of 'Will you execute our denouement?', one must, in a sense, maintain high levels of Notability until the zenith is reached.
But other than the election and personal desire to do so, I can think of no other reason to permanently retain a high (10+) Notability.
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Will you execute our denoucement?
I've been raising Notability for the election and I'm honestly having some fun doing so. I have a goal and I'm trying to reach it, which is probably more rewarding than maintaining it with no immediate goal would be.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
4/2/2017
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I remember getting the Uber-Goat, and being utterly disappointed that their was no new hidden content unlocked for doing so.
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An Individual
Posts: 589
4/2/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
I've been raising Notability for the election and I'm honestly having some fun doing so.
Your the first person I've ever heard say that. My last notabiilty grind was with an alt with something like 32 BDR clawing it's way up to 12 notability from basically nothing for reasons of candle acquisition and it was, frankly, a miserable experience. Then again, I just concluded my 2 year Cider grind the other day so I'm in no position to judge.
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dov
Posts: 2580
4/2/2017
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Koenig wrote:
I remember getting the Uber-Goat, and being utterly disappointed that their was no new hidden content unlocked for doing so.
Well, there is if you get 7 of them...
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
4/2/2017
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An Individual wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
I've been raising Notability for the election and I'm honestly having some fun doing so.
Your the first person I've ever heard say that. My last notabiilty grind was with an alt with something like 32 BDR clawing it's way up to 12 notability from basically nothing for reasons of candle acquisition and it was, frankly, a miserable experience. Then again, I just concluded my 2 year Cider grind the other day so I'm in no position to judge.
It's a challenge that requires deft use of resources and some degree of planning, so it isn't simply the brute expenditure of actions. This can make gathering Waves somewhat fun. When you're seeking Notability a number of your companions come in handy, your lodgings develop new uses, and you come to really appreciate the Sardonic Music Hall Singer. This is a nice change of pace if you don't usually bother much with Notability (and I generally do not). It also gives me a nice little Fallen London project for April, May, and June.
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reaperOscuroCore
Posts: 41
4/6/2017
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Gooday,
Surely what we need is not a pause, but a means of reliably generate Making Waves? At least up to or slightly over your Notability -enough to not drop at the end of the week. One would assume it is not rocket science -whatever that is: in ones lodgings, a new storylet option to cultivate ones reputation -I'd say separate from the social interactions one, and vitally not necessitating free evenings. Then it would be a case of actions that require a fair amount of resources -say...a grind of 20actions per each of these actions, and they in turn give Making Waves, capped at your Notability + (formula).
Would that be unfair? How could that be unfair? After all if one is Notable, one has the power to set up events, galas, excursions, or whatnot, if they have resources? I mean if one is Notable, surely they are on par with the Ambassador, and other figures of eminence?
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DonaghyLogan
Posts: 205
4/6/2017
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reaperOscuroCore wrote:
Gooday,
Surely what we need is not a pause, but a means of reliably generate Making Waves? At least up to or slightly over your Notability -enough to not drop at the end of the week. One would assume it is not rocket science -whatever that is: in ones lodgings, a new storylet option to cultivate ones reputation -I'd say separate from the social interactions one, and vitally not necessitating free evenings. Then it would be a case of actions that require a fair amount of resources -say...a grind of 20actions per each of these actions, and they in turn give Making Waves, capped at your Notability + (formula).
Would that be unfair? How could that be unfair? After all if one is Notable, one has the power to set up events, galas, excursions, or whatnot, if they have resources? I mean if one is Notable, surely they are on par with the Ambassador, and other figures of eminence?
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If one is OK with killing some actions and hasn't been kicked yet, there is a reliable 1 CP/action MW increaser in the Empress's Court.
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Pumpkinhead
Posts: 516
4/6/2017
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Side converting tier 3 items also generates a fair amount of waves. It's certainly enough to get to 15 to maintain notability.
I don't think it's that hard to maintain notability 15 if you don't take any vacations. Doing the tier 3 side conversions, you would only need to burn a few candles to get MW 15. The issue is more that if you take a pause from the game, there's no way to keep your notability up.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
4/6/2017
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Sideconverting T3 items in a circle gives approximately 1.6 CP/A by my math, plus a small profit.
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