Absintheuse
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2/28/2017
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One of London's largest criminal cases is cracked at last. What happens next is up to you.
The Season of Skies has finished. If you played The Persona Engine, The Twelve-Fifteen from Moloch Street, and The Century Exhibition, you will have gained an item unique to each tale. You can trade in these items to unlock a short tale suffused with lore and adorned with an alluring reward.
This option opens today, and will remain permanently, so there is no need to trade in your items by any deadline.
The story can be found via The Season of Skies: Putting the Pieces Together
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Hattington
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2/28/2017
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WOO! SPOOKY JUDGEMENT DIMENSION OR BUST! I never liked Naples anyway.
...why does a sun need a throne to sit in, anyway? They're SUNS. The SS kickstarter depicts them as the conventionally solar kind of sun.
"Hey Jeff, how long have we been holding up Alpha Centauri's throne?"
"Shut up, Burt"
"No seriously, they have their own gravity wells. They're physically larger than literally every other chair in the universe. Oh, and THEY DEFINE WHAT IS, which apparently includes the need for someone to hoist up their cosmic Lay-Z-Boys for eternity!"
"Shut up, Burt"
"It can't be for lumbar support, because they don't have spines! Unlike us. Here I am, a perfectly respectable eldritch titan straight outta Dagon University, working as a glorified coolie for a boss who isn't physically capable of sittting d-oh right, I guess sitting down IS something suns can do because they decided it should be so"
"Shut up, Burt"
"Seven treacheries, look at my poor bent knees! LOOK AT THEM! I coulda been a contender in the space football leagues, but this job's crippled me! That's it, I quit! Go into the service sector, they said! Work hard and play hard, they said!"
"Burt. Remember Axile? IF YOU DON'T STOP TALKING OUR BOSS IS GOING TO LITERALLY FIRE US FOR DEFYING THE GREAT CHAIN! AS IN, SET US ON FIRE"
"But we don't even get holidays!"
"THERE ARE NO HOLIDAYS IN THE GREAT CHAIN"
"Oh"
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"...Jeff?"
"What?"
"You're gonna carry that weight"
PSGarak wrote:
Of the red science:
[spoiler]The text mentioned "the cleaving of matter." Is this nuclear fusion, with which London will create its own sun? The splitting of atoms was certainly regarded as a subversion of natural law when it was first proposed.[/spoiler]
That was a wild ride. This is certainly a worthy conclusion of the excellent season that preceded it. The weight of my decisions gave me pause.
I think the visions were of something more, or something different. Perhaps a view of an actual Judgement, or perhaps a view of a world from the viewpoint of a Judgement.
Which raises VERY interesting implications about the Dawn Machine, and for that matter the Mountain of Light/Stone.
Let's see-if the former's emissions and works can be proof against sunlight while the latter was sought after by Salt (and the White), assuming the nuclear fission theory is true what if the former is some kind of eldritch cold fusion reactor while the latter's cider is some kind of aentropic fuel?
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Saklad
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2/28/2017
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Anyone know if PoSI specialization influences the Lighthearted Polymath's assessment?
By the way, I think that is one of the coolest things ever. Please continue experimenting with pulling semi-obscure Qualities into the writing, Failbetter.
Have a devil remark on my work for the Bishop, make a Surface spy note my terms as Governor, and so on. It makes everything that much more engrossing and meaningful, particularly when done behind the scenes.
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PSGarak
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2/28/2017
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Of the red science:
[spoiler]The text mentioned "the cleaving of matter." Is this nuclear fusion, with which London will create its own sun? The splitting of atoms was certainly regarded as a subversion of natural law when it was first proposed.[/spoiler]
That was a wild ride. This is certainly a worthy conclusion of the excellent season that preceded it. The weight of my decisions gave me pause.
I think the visions were of something more, or something different. Perhaps a view of an actual Judgement, or perhaps a view of a world from the viewpoint of a Judgement.
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dov
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I liked the epilogue. It tied things together, though not too tightly with some loose threads still.
Like others, it was incredible to see the text reflect our character's choices and position. More of this, please!!
(it was also a unique experience to see how someone else views our character).
The choices at the end were... OK. I would have really liked there to be a fourth option:
[spoiler]How about an option to keep the Polymath's research for ourselves, for possible future use?
In such an option, you decide that you won't support the Polymath and the Widow, but that her research has some merit you would like to pursue. You also decide that in her current condition she is no longer a threat and won't be able to repeat what she's done. You leave her there and take all her notes and instruments. Gains 1 x Semiotic Monocle (worth 312.5 echoes, like all the other rewards).[/spoiler]
Overall conclusion - an excellent season, both in term of individual stories and in tying them all together into a single narrative with overreaching implications. Kudos!
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loredeluxe
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3/1/2017
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Regarding the throne, I had some initial thoughts about what it could be, but it wasn't until the suspect said she couldn't go there any longer that I think I figured it out. She gave away her soul to the Devils and said she can't get into the kingdom anymore. The kingdom is called the Blue Kingdom and lies far beyond what we know as the High Wilderness. Countless figures wearing death masks now down before a blinding light sitting upon a great throne. My theory is that we have viewed Fallen London's version of Heaven and saw God sitting on its throne and the description we got is the closest thing our mortal minds could come to witnessing it.
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SamNorrey
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2/28/2017
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Wow, that was some ending! Truth be told, this moved me more than the whole Clay Man's Arm story. What an excellent conclusion to my favourite season so far!
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Malcolm Harris
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2/28/2017
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Cthonius wrote:
I've passed along the work, with a Starstone Demark as payment. It is echoed. I'm curious the other ends.
Those visions were...bizarre. Was it one of London in the Skies, with the Throne of Hours (iirc the name given to it in the kickstarter), or something else entirely?
I believe it was in the Twitch stream that they explained it to be a location/region beyond "regular" space that will be explorable in the High Wilderness.
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Cthonius
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I've passed along the work, with a Starstone Demark as payment. It is echoed. I'm curious the other ends.
Those visions were...bizarre. Was it one of London in the Skies, with the Throne of Hours (iirc the name given to it in the kickstarter), or something else entirely?
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Diptych
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Getting the police involved provided a satisfying ending and rewarded an Intriguer's Compendium - not bad at all!
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HiramCunningham
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2/28/2017
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They explain it somewhere in there.
[spoiler]The self-destructing caprine vellum used by Benthic scholars like the Polymath smells like honey when burned.[/spoiler]
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Pnakotic
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2/28/2017
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This is a hard decision. I greatly admire the Polymath's work, and would love to preserve it for my own purposes. I do love to see the night skies. London would be saved by the new Law (hadn't realized Hell could do that. They're much more powerful than I'd thought!)
But what of the rest of the Neath? True, it's a terrible place, full of horrible things. Yet there are wonders as well, and what of its other denizens, like the Presbyrate and the Cousins, or the Daughter? And of what monsters there may be, do they not themselves have a natural right to be? The Judgements would not see itvas so, imposing their own order from their seats of privilege in the Great Chain. But what is just or natural in an existence scraping and groveling for the greater glory of a celestial oligarchy?
Also, where does this place allegiances in the Neath? Why would Hell want the Judgements influencing the Neath? Is deathlessness such an impediment to them, and is that why they wanted the Wind so badly (to choose who could survive and who wouldn't?) Is that why the Great Game (surface powers) seem influentially linked to Hell in the resolution of the Nadir, while the Revolutionaries link to the Bazaar (both opposed in some aims, but united byba desire to free themselves from the Judgements?) Yet haven't the Revolutionaries altered the very power structure of Hell (the Season of Revolutions, the Iron Republic)?
And what of the Widow? Bitter enough to end it all? Playing her own games? Or just lonely for a kindred soul who too gad lost more than she could bear?
It's like a choice between crushing a butterfly for daring to dream of the sky, and killing the last of some strange and endangered species... what a value judgement, andvwhat a sacrifice either way!
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Saklad
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2/28/2017
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Pnakotic wrote:
This is a hard decision. I greatly admire the Polymath's work, and would love to preserve it for my own purposes. I do love to see the night skies. London would be saved by the new Law (hadn't realized Hell could do that. They're much more powerful than I'd thought!)
But what of the rest of the Neath? True, it's a terrible place, full of horrible things. Yet there are wonders as well, and what of its other denizens, like the Presbyrate and the Cousins, or the Daughter? And of what monsters there may be, do they not themselves have a natural right to be? The Judgements would not see itvas so, imposing their own order from their seats of privilege in the Great Chain. But what is just or natural in an existence scraping and groveling for the greater glory of a celestial oligarchy?
Also, where does this place allegiances in the Neath? Why would Hell want the Judgements influencing the Neath? Is deathlessness such an impediment to them, and is that why they wanted the Wind so badly (to choose who could survive and who wouldn't?) Is that why the Great Game (surface powers) seem influentially linked to Hell in the resolution of the Nadir, while the Revolutionaries link to the Bazaar (both opposed in some aims, but united byba desire to free themselves from the Judgements?) Yet haven't the Revolutionaries altered the very power structure of Hell (the Season of Revolutions, the Iron Republic)?
And what of the Widow? Bitter enough to end it all? Playing her own games? Or just lonely for a kindred soul who too gad lost more than she could bear?
It's like a choice between crushing a butterfly for daring to dream of the sky, and killing the last of some strange and endangered species... what a value judgement, andvwhat a sacrifice either way!
Immunity to sunlight means immunity to the Judgements' influence. Remember, it is harmful because those who have been in the Neath too long are effectively illegal.
Besides, Aestival already has a hole in the roof above it. Its effects seem to be pretty isolated.
Hell wanted the Wind of Ages because they thought it might allow them to improve souls. Age clearly impacts value: contrast the price of a Silent Soul with a normal one.
As for Hell being able to do this, it is child's play compared to the Iron Republic. They aren't even the only ones who can manufacture a law to protect against sunlight: the Dawn Machine can do the very same.
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Kukapetal
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3/1/2017
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Crater wrote:
Perhaps that would be the moment when the city would Fall. Maybe Hell might speed up the process, give the volcano a nudge, and make the world think it fitting: Let the suffering of Naples end. Let it be claimed by the Neath.
Pretty sure the actual people who live in Naples and would be the ones "put out of their suffering" without their consent would have a very different opinion.
No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that what you'd be doing to the people of Naples is monstrously evil. Now, if that's the kind of character you're playing, then go for it. But it's still evil.
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Mister Cockatiel
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3/1/2017
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Very much enjoyed the ending, it gave this sense of hugeness, of being very small in a big picture. All the pieces came together - in the room of a broken madwoman who lost herself trying to give humanity the stars - while committing horrible crimes and setting up a worse one.
I also liked how it was a true role-playing choice - with a true sense of burden. I truly felt the weight, and thus it was a great chance to play my character.
And for Mister Cockatiel, writer and adventurer, a Correspondent who never let the burden of knowledge get in the way of a good joke or a seductive wink . . . he felt broken. It was all too much.
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In the end, he turned the work over to the Widow. He felt like giant wheels were turning that were bigger than he. There was something here he couldn't stop. He could just let it continue and see where the path led. He was silent, and for him, that was all too rare.
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DeserterKalak
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3/1/2017
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I gave it to the Gracious Widow. She is clever and wise, and I generally trust her judgement. I really hope we can evacuate Naples, though...
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Crater
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3/1/2017
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Pnakotic wrote:
This is a hard decision...It's like a choice between crushing a butterfly for daring to dream of the sky, and killing the last of some strange and endangered species... what a value judgement, and what a sacrifice either way!
How true. And yet...with a different perspective, might not the choice change with it?
Naples had nearly half a million souls within it in 1884...and then cholera ripped it apart. Thousands dying daily, the dead left to rot in the street while no one dared to disturb the sewers lest things become worse. Corrupt officials making feeble attempts to improve public works without succeeding. The poor fleeing the corruption, the death, the hopelessness, heading for other cities, other countries. Even London.
And soon, in 1906...Vesuvius will cripple it.
Perhaps that would be the moment when the city would Fall. Maybe Hell might speed up the process, give the volcano a nudge, and make the world think it fitting: Let the suffering of Naples end. Let it be claimed by the Neath. And look, London has returned! Back from the darkness and hopelessness and able to see the sky again! Might other cities do the same? Would the Widow show the ruling houses of Khan's Glory just how easy it can be to return?
As a final note, Naples would Fall but not because of the Bazaar. Might that give it greater hope than London, not to be burdened under the bargain of its monarch and the demands of new Masters?
So much potential.
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Will It Work
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3/6/2017
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Like dov and DrLight, I would also have liked the option to keep the research to myself.
This particular story was difficult for me, because in many cases, I felt there weren't many ‘take a third option’ alternatives that rang true to me or my character.
Also as shown by the Polymath's (the writer's) views on my choices, apparently my decisions were inconsistent and perhaps poorly planned.
- I would have liked to save the Machine without alienating the deceived.
- I would have liked an option to keep the research and plan.
- I would have preferred an option to destroy the work without killing the Polymath — [spoiler]implicitly with permanent results[/spoiler].
- I definitely would have wanted to be able to leave the Observatory room and come back later — it's not like she was going to be going anywhere.
Despite London's destined doom, it is singularly unkind, perhaps even morally repugnant, to damn another city in its place. In this dark place where the measure of our souls is visible, to strike down the helpless — even if no longer truely innocent, must be done only in greatest need.
[spoiler] I have no trust in Hell, and did not wish to kill the Polymath. Therefore I took the only option remaining, and surrendered her and her work to the Constabulary.
Ultimately, the Intriguer's Compendium was not worth the pain. [/spoiler]
Post posting: I have left the broken spoiler tag, because it is the lesser of the two. Subsequent edits have failed to provide function.
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Passionario
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3/1/2017
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dov wrote:
The deal with Hell was for a new law to protect "an area the size of the fifth city". This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
The protection of Dawn's Law or Parabox only extends to Aestival, yet the rest of the Neath survives just fine. I imagine exposed London would be fairly similar. The darkness over Unterzee is more than just the absence of light and it does not yield easily, not even to Judgments.
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Tofan Bogdan
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3/1/2017
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[SPOILERS]
Ive sent the police on the Polytherme. She must pay for her crimes. And killing another city so that London could have their night sky is insane.
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Dean Lee
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2/28/2017
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I love how the visions were accompanied by lines from the Book of Job.
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1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
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“Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.
19 “What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
20 Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
This Passage later includes these gems:
31 “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
33 Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?
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Kukapetal
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3/1/2017
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Let's see, she wants to destroy an entire city full of people for a purely selfish and sentimental goal...
[spoiler]enjoy your barbecue, lady...[/spoiler]
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rahv7
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2/28/2017
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HiramCunningham wrote:
They explain it somewhere in there.
Thank you. I had totally forgotten that this had been mentioned before.
@Dean Lee: Thank you, too. I totally missed that. Did you see that level 4 of "Visions of the Blue Kingdom" has the additional description: "You are the first human witness"? Sent shivers down my spine...
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Myrto
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2/28/2017
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This was a beautiful conclusion. I really enjoyed it, as others have said, and loved how those random qualities have been worked into the final moments. I chose to hand it off to the Gracious Widow.
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Virtu Chrysocolla
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2/28/2017
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Judging from the Sunless Skies Kickstarter the throne is for Empress Victoria :O
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Kaigen
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2/28/2017
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Oh hey, an actual reference to the school of thought I subscribe to. Now I'm curious what is said about people who don't follow the Implacable Method. (Link for reference)
Edit: Word of warning, one of the paths you can follow increases Nightmares by a few points, so it might be wise to make sure you're not too close to madness before starting.
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Passionario
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2/28/2017
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Kaigen wrote:
Oh hey, an actual reference to the school of thought I subscribe to. Now I'm curious what is said about people who don't follow the Implacable Method.
Anchoress's Legacy (on a non-POSI character with a training profession - no idea which of the two accounts for the 'not the most astute' variable part).
I have to say, I like all these Quality Variable Decriptions, both here and in the Finishing School.
(It's a shame that they remain undocumented in Storynexus guide, they're apparently very useful)
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HiramCunningham
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2/28/2017
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Haha, oh no.
[spoiler] Only after I handed in everything to the Widow did I realize what was going on. If I'm reading this right, they'll have to nuke Naples to blow the Neath's roof open. Well, sorry Naples, but I suppose I'm not taking it back. [/spoiler]
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Catherine Raymond
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2/28/2017
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I agree with Sam Norrey; it was very moving.
My main chose to "involve the police", and my alt to pass the work along. Would someone who has chosen the third path be kind enough to say so with a link to their profile? Thanks.
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Passionario
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3/2/2017
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Anne Auclair wrote:
btw, was anyone else reminded of this? It seems that neither that Polymath's desire nor plan were all that original.
Maybe that was the Polymath. Frustrated with the lack of official support, she turned to private enterprise to address the issue.
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Johanna de Silentio
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3/3/2017
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Is it normal that I still have "The Season of Skies: Return to Your Study" storylet active after completing this trade-in?
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Tofan Bogdan
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3/3/2017
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Yes I believe so.
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suinicide
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3/6/2017
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Oh, only one spoiler tag works per post. Dunno why, but that's the problem.
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Lallinka
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I blame the giant time gap between the first two and the last story of this season, but I failed to see the connection between the individual stories.
I was actually surprised to find out about the Polymath and the plan.
Now my initial choice was to pass on the letter to the Widow, because I felt terribly sorry for the Polymath and I didn't want her to see me destroy her lifetime's work right in front of her.
The text spoke of "lives she destroyed" and I couldn't for the life of me remember what those were, but the sense of justice eventually prevailed in me and I decided to call the Constables. I think I am happy with my choice overall.
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Akernis
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dov wrote:
This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
Unlikely, a hole the size of Naples in the roof would not shine down light on an area much bigger than London. We already saw this phenomenon in action on Aestival. The rest of the Neath would do just fine.
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Aberrant Eremite
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That's not how I interpreted it. I didn't think the Polymath was merely sentimental; I thought she was practical. I thought the plan was to bring London back up to the surface, or perhaps even launch it into space - maybe even using Mount Vesuvius as a Jules-Verne-esque Space Cannon.
I took the passages from Job as hints that we might be able to enslave the Bazaar and use her as a mobile space station. (Of course, we might need to develop anti-Dragon artillery.) Cruel? She deserves no better from us.
Yes, it's a desperate plan, but if we stay down here we're all going to get crushed and melted into lacre.
As for the fate of the Neath, isn't it protected more by the the Nadir than by the cavern roof? And the Neath is geologically impossible anyway - a four-million-square-mile cavern with a roof much less than a mile thick. Either it's much more than one mile below the Surface, or else the Neath doesn't really exist in the same space-time as the Surface.
Okay, practically speaking, moving London would require extensive rewriting of the Fallen London game. But so would destroying the rest of the Neath. Unless Sunless Skies is set far in the future - e.g. in 2017.
But then again, there's a lot of lore I don't know, so my assumptions may be faulty.
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The deal with Hell was for a new law to protect "an area the size of the fifth city". This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
It also won't restore London to the surface. Just let starlight reach down to London, which will still be stuck in a huge cavern in the Earth.
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I don't think the Blue Kingdom is our fallen... flyaway London.
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All the scenes in the blue light are tremendous, fearful, and a little outlandish. The consort sounds different from "a vanquished king", and I doubt the Empress will bury him among a lot of "pyramids". And "the butcher who worked down the lane from where you grew up", is very probably a surface-dweller, not a Londoner, judging from our past. And all that deathmask thing, is extremely weird.
But I have no idea what it is. In my opinion, the blue kingdom is slightly more likely the Judgements' Kingdom, or a Judgement's Kingdom, or a metaphor of Gods' dominion and the Great Chain, or that is what the Stars see. (And the butcher, is he dead?) [/spoiler]
EDIT: Sorry, loredeluxe has already mention that hypothesis but I neglected that. 
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic24020-the-season-of-skies-item-tradein.aspx?Page=1#post185934
edited by Fadewalker on 3/1/2017
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DrLight
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I also found this an incredible ending to the story, I had to stop and think about what to do.
I would also have liked theoption to keeps the reasearch to myself as well.
But I suppose as a new dweller in Fallen London (only been playing 3 months), I thought it best to give it to the Widow
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Catherine Raymond
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dov wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
In addition, it would have been hard for my main to have seen passing on the work as something entirely beneficial. Arguably it benefits the whole Neath, but what of the Surface? Not really.
The deal with Hell was for a new law to protect "an area the size of the fifth city". This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
It also won't restore London to the surface. Just let starlight reach down to London, which will still be stuck in a huge cavern in the Earth.
You make a good point, dov. You're right that what we know about the deal with Hell only applies to London. That further strengthens the argument that proceeding with the work would have been a selfish thing to do. What persuaded me was the clear implication that people on the Surface would die if the Polymath's plan proceeded; that was more than enough collateral harm to turn my main away from the proposal (and me as well!).
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dov
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
In addition, it would have been hard for my main to have seen passing on the work as something entirely beneficial. Arguably it benefits the whole Neath, but what of the Surface? Not really.
The deal with Hell was for a new law to protect "an area the size of the fifth city". This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
It also won't restore London to the surface. Just let starlight reach down to London, which will still be stuck in a huge cavern in the Earth.
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Tofan Bogdan
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dov wrote:
Catherine Raymond wrote:
In addition, it would have been hard for my main to have seen passing on the work as something entirely beneficial. Arguably it benefits the whole Neath, but what of the Surface? Not really.
The deal with Hell was for a new law to protect "an area the size of the fifth city". This won't protect the entire Neath. Even if the devils stay true to the original intent (and they might *not* - i.e. create a law which protects somewhere other than London, but of the same size), this will be disastrous to most Neath people/creatures/societies.
With the Judgements' law poring down into the Neath, lots of "illegal" things will die. Think of the Khanate, anyone on the Elder Continent, the Mountain of Light herself, all sort of talking animals, etc. etc.
It also won't restore London to the surface. Just let starlight reach down to London, which will still be stuck in a huge cavern in the Earth.
So what was the most moral choice?
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