Parelle
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1/18/2017
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As with our previous friends, Urchins has been converted over to Renown.
Please post cards and actions which use or give Favours and Renown Unlocks.
Most options below are cards; the storylets are listed as - with a [bracketed italicized location] first
Cards which must been drawn in particular locations have their [requirements shown in brackets]
Renown Conversion: R = (C - 21) / 7
Renown increase past Level 15: Increases Daring, decreases Melancholy
= Favour Sources =
[Mrs. Plenty’s Carnival: Sideshow] - 1 Favour, 3 CP Renown up to Level 5
[Fate Locked] Finishing School
Cards:
Urchins: 1 Favour, cost Lucky Weasel
Turning in a hard-working Mark of Credit Page: 1 Favour (also gains 1 Favour Docks)
Grubby Kitten (connected pet): 1 Favour
Implausible Penance: Arson and Avarice - Tip the Squatters Off: 1 Favour, requires min Criminal Favour 3 to use, Criminals Favour 1 to draw
Invite a Correspondent acquaintance to educate the orphans: ?
Your Winsome Orphan is out of contro(purchased Companion): 1 Favour, costs 1 or 2 Memory of Distance Shores, requires bottle of Laudanum
The Urchin and the Monkey (purchased Companions): 1 Favour, costs two Compromising Documents, requires 1 x Malevolent Monkey, 1 x Grubby Urchin
Your Grubby Urchin is becoming troublesome (purchased Companion) [card drawn in Your Lodgings]: 1 Favour, cost 2 Tales of Terror
A scuffle on the street: Assist the Urchin (No connected pet) [card drawn in Veilgarden]: 1 Favour
One Time/Lower Stat Levels (thanks to rahv7 and Reddit for these additions)
A task from the Cheesemonger: requires An agent of the Cheesemonger 1-3
The kidsman recruits [card drawn in The Flit]: requires Shadowy 69–106
They're coming for you! - Run! Hide! To the Flit! [one time]: requires Plotting against the Masters 2
= Renown Unlocks: =
[The Flit] Fun with the Fisher Kings - Join in their ‘games’: Renown 5
[The Flit] Gather urchin informants: Renown 20, War of Assassins 1-3
= Favour Use =
Call in Favours in the Flit [card drawn in The Flit] : 3 Favours - 25 scraps + Bundle of Oddities
Pursue a Scheme: offer some Urchins a place in your Orphanage: 5 favors
Urchins: Out you go, longshanks: 5 Favours, 20 Glim
Upconverting Wild Word items
T3 to T4 (plaque to scream): 1 Favour
T4 to T5 (scream to threnody): 1 Favour
= Renown Items =
Renown 10: Urchins Card
Renown 25: Wolfstack Docks
Renown 40: Mind of a Long-Dead God
= Conflict Cards =
Docks/Urchins: 5 Favours each - 800m(5) to 1200 (7) Rats, 1200 Rat on a string, 1 cp SiC, 10-20 Morelways, and -5(?)CP wounds.
Widow/Urchins: 30 Widow/Urchins 5 Favours - 350 (5) to 700(7) jade, 1 cp Someone is coming, 4-6 Identity Uncovered, Nightmare drop
Hell/Urchins: 30 Hell/Urchins 5 Favours
= Details required =
Invite a Correspondent acquaintance to educate the orphans: who gets the Favour, the Correspondant or the Orphanage owner?
Increase in Rare item payout from Favours to upconvert?
Payout for selling Location of the Nadir to the Urchins?
Devil & Child details
Thanks to all on this thread and elsewhere who contributed, but particularly to the Reddit Communty and rahv7 for his thread there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/5ovrcb/sources_for_urchins_favours/
edited by Parelle on 1/31/2017
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Chronos
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1/18/2017
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MidnightVoyager wrote:
Question: Is any of the renown items a companion? Trying to figure out if it's worth even bothering.
The renown companions are the 1st tier docks, 2nd tier rubbery, 3 tier colonist and criminals. Unfortunately none of the Urchins ones are companions.
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Catherine Raymond
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1/31/2017
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Ben wrote:
As a note, giving away the grubby kitten for 1 favor, when it now COSTS 1 favor to get, not a reliable gain.
Actually, the storylet doesn't *give* the Kitten away. The text just asks you to "loan" it. At first, I thought that would mean that doing the storylet would start a living story where you'd be without the Kitten for a little while, but in fact the Kitten stays put in your inventory and you just get a favor.
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Alysian
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1/18/2017
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"Pursue a Scheme: offer some Urchins a place in your Orphanage" requires 5 favors.
Would have thought you're the one doing Them a favor, but sure 
edited by Alysian on 1/18/2017
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Parelle
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1/18/2017
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Thanks everyone - and pardon my obviously dumb errors while typing in a hurry. I'll make the changes as soon as I get to a proper keyboard.
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phryne
Posts: 1351
1/20/2017
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The compromise solution on the Hell/Urchins conflict card requires Subtle 8 - any advice on how to get there?
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The Master
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1/20/2017
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phryne wrote:
The compromise solution on the Hell/Urchins conflict card requires Subtle 8 - any advice on how to get there?
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Publish_a_monograph_on_obscure_scientific_minutiae
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Wiwo
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1/20/2017
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phryne wrote:
The compromise solution on the Hell/Urchins conflict card requires Subtle 8 - any advice on how to get there?
Keeping it Bloodless on the Wilmot's End carousel then turning in the dramatic tension for Collections of curiosities is quite profitable if you're not in a terrible hurry to bump up your subtle.
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rahv7
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1/20/2017
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I think this hasn't been mentioned yet: The Grubby Urchin card now also gives a Favour at the cost of two Tales of Terror!!
By my count we are now up to 7 cards that are always available, 2 that are temporarily available and 1 (or 2?) non-card sources that are fate-locked (details).
edited by rahv7 on 1/20/2017
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rahv7
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1/21/2017
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The Master wrote:
Are you sure you didn't pick the incorrect option? It didn't cost me anything when I got it earlier today.
Maybe the option has been adjusted? It definitly cost me 2 ToT, same as the Favour on the Winsome Urchin card costs 2 Memories of Distant Shores.
navchaa wrote:
Arson and avarice on the implausible penance card unlocks with 3 criminals favours, not 1.
That is precisely what I wrote.
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Wiwo
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1/22/2017
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I'm working on accumulating the favours for the same info on Sabotaging the cannon on the docks/urchins card. If somebody else already has, then let me know and I'll update the wiki and put those favours towards renown instead.
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Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely.
Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred.
Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably).
I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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rahv7
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1/22/2017
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dov wrote:
My math might be completely off here, but doesn't this mean that it's more profitable to cash in with 7 Favours, and not 5? (after all, the rewards scale with the number of Favours, so you save actions by using more Favours at once).
Oh dear ... you are right. I think I forgot to factor in the Identity Uncovered or something. I doesn't actually matter if you paid for the Favours or not, the 6th and 7th Favour are more valuable than the first five. The overall EPA-ratio is still higher if you didn't pay anything, obviously.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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Wiwo
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1/23/2017
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Parelle wrote:
Can not even a sip of Cider reach them?
I'm afraid not. It wouldn't help terribly much anyways, since it's the cider DREAMS cards that actually do most of the healing. Accepting the sip only heals 1CP of wounds.
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Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely.
Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred.
Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably).
I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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Sallow
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1/24/2017
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I'd love to know how many urchins (both kind) have been BOUGHT these past few days. As well as monkeys and rookery passwords. It all just feels a bit obscene... the whole community rushing out to PURCHASE their very own urchin favour cows.
Also, why aren't there any items and companions (apart from the Watchmaker Hill pets) that help grind other kinds of favours? (...Are there any?)
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Sallow
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1/24/2017
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Oh right, I misremembered the Orphan as a Winsome Urchin. And I did BUY the henchman and the accomplice just to get the new Hallowmas companions. All right, time to increase my stable again.
It's sick...
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Kaijyuu
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1/28/2017
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Probably doubles. Infinite deck areas are the only ones that completely refill, iirc.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
2/4/2017
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Kaijyuu wrote:
If that card lies about its frequency (like the "Valuable Secrets" card in Ladybones Road does), it could be a very good source indeed.
Valuable Secrets claims to have infrequent frequency but my experience pegs it at more like Ubiquitous. I've spent something like 7000 whispered hints on it in ~4 months, which implies hundreds of draws, when standard frequency cards like faction ones I've drawn maybe a hundred or two.
Having just tested this, I drew the card 3 times just since last night. It's certainly more frequent than infrequent!
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Catherine Raymond
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Blaine Davidson wrote:
I own a Heptagoat and somehow have never entered the Mind of a Dead God before.
Could someone be so kind as to help me with this? I haven't seen the Stormy-eyed dream card in months.
You can increase your Stormy Eyed quality without the card at Mutton Island by using the storylet "I bid the Wind speak".
Entering the Mind of a Dead God happens when your Stormy Eyed quality is 19 AND your "What the Thunder Said" dream quality is at least 15. None of that has anything to do with your Heptagoat, though I'm sure impressed by your drive and grind efficiency! What grind/s did you use to earn the Echoes to acquire all the necessary goats?
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lady ciel
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3/13/2018
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There should be a pinned storylet everywhere in London. You might need to scroll down the page to see it.
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MidnightVoyager
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1/18/2017
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Chronos wrote:
MidnightVoyager wrote:
Question: Is any of the renown items a companion? Trying to figure out if it's worth even bothering.
The renown companions are the 1st tier docks, 2nd tier rubbery, 3 tier colonist and criminals. Unfortunately none of the Urchins ones are companions.
I meant urchins in particular, but A+ answer. Thanks!
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