The Master
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1/21/2017
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rahv7 wrote:
Hi Parelle,
the Quirk changes for Renown 15+ have been updated in the wiki. It raises Daring and decreases Melancholy.
(You also have a typo in your post: "Filt" instead of "Flit".)
edited by rahv7 on 1/21/2017
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Flit
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
1/21/2017
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The Master wrote:
rahv7 wrote:
Hi Parelle,
the Quirk changes for Renown 15+ have been updated in the wiki. It raises Daring and decreases Melancholy.
(You also have a typo in your post: "Filt" instead of "Flit".)
edited by rahv7 on 1/21/2017
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Flit
You seem to have misread rahv7's post. It's called the Flit (f-l-i-t), parelle's OP has it as "Filt" (f-i-l-t) in one point, and only one point. Linking is completely unhelpful and, as far as I can tell, an erroneous correction.
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rahv7
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1/21/2017
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Kaigen wrote:
I'm currently grinding Stormy-Eyed on Mutton Island. If no one beats me to it, I'll bite the bullet and try refusing the gift when I hit the Mind.
Where do I need to subscribe to get the echo when you did it? 
(Twist: It's an immensely profitable storylet and can be repeated forever and ever as long as you don't accept the offer.)
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
1/21/2017
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rahv7 wrote:
Kaigen wrote:
I'm currently grinding Stormy-Eyed on Mutton Island. If no one beats me to it, I'll bite the bullet and try refusing the gift when I hit the Mind.
Where do I need to subscribe to get the echo when you did it?
(Twist: It's an immensely profitable storylet and can be repeated forever and ever as long as you don't accept the offer.)
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Koenig
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1/21/2017
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Is there any particular way I can grind "What the thunder said"? I have raised my stormy eyed to near the required level to enter the mind of a Long dead god, but my counterpart dreams level is still too low.
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rahv7
Posts: 294
1/21/2017
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Koenig wrote:
Is there any particular way I can grind "What the thunder said"?
Only opportunity cards, I'm afraid. Well, and the "Dream"-option in the Nadir.
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The Master
Posts: 804
1/21/2017
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Grenem wrote:
The Master wrote:
rahv7 wrote:
Hi Parelle,
the Quirk changes for Renown 15+ have been updated in the wiki. It raises Daring and decreases Melancholy.
(You also have a typo in your post: "Filt" instead of "Flit".)
edited by rahv7 on 1/21/2017
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Flit
You seem to have misread rahv7's post. It's called the Flit (f-l-i-t), parelle's OP has it as "Filt" (f-i-l-t) in one point, and only one point. Linking is completely unhelpful and, as far as I can tell, an erroneous correction.
Ahh, I only saw the points where it was written correctly and though he meant that it was written as filt, sorry for the mistake
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Koenig
Posts: 466
1/22/2017
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rahv7 wrote:
Koenig wrote:
Is there any particular way I can grind "What the thunder said"?
Only opportunity cards, I'm afraid. Well, and the "Dream"-option in the Nadir.
That is more unfortunate... It looks like this will take far far longer than I anticipated.
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maleclypse
Posts: 259
1/22/2017
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I've made the choice to Advise the Girl to return to the Widow. With 7 Favors I received 700 jade, Nightmares dropped from 4+ to to exactly 2, 1 Someone is coming, and 6 Identity Uncovered. So 7 to 10 CP of nightmares reduction and 22 echoes minus the cost of getting the urchin favors estimated at .75 echo per favor for an EPA of 2.09. So I probably should have saved the favors for the lightning bolt but i think I'm waiting for Fruits of the Zee or at least til I have docks 40 before I go to Mutton Island.
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rahv7
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1/22/2017
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maleclypse wrote:
So I probably should have saved the favors for the lightning bolt but i think I'm waiting for Fruits of the Zee or at least til I have docks 40 before I go to Mutton Island.
Note that you can also get Favours: Docks on Mutton Island. It isn't fast and you cannot convert to Renown, but it's a reliable source at 1 Favour per 24 actions.
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Kaigen
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1/22/2017
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Looks like Optimatum beat me to trying out refusal and posted to the wiki. Maybe when I go I'll see if there's any consequence for hitting 8 Wounds in the Mind...
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Kaijyuu
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1/22/2017
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It certainly looks hella profitable. Unless there's another -1 CP Aeolian Scream option there. The wounds wouldn't be too much of an issue (maybe go during christmas and reduce wounds via christmas cards).
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Wiwo
Posts: 365
1/22/2017
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Kaigen wrote:
Looks like Optimatum beat me to trying out refusal and posted to the wiki. Maybe when I go I'll see if there's any consequence for hitting 8 Wounds in the Mind...
If the wounds only become an issue after you leave, it's possible that it would be net-profitable for cider holders as long as you use mostly autofire cards to raise WtTS. Pity the wiki doesn't have CP for nightmares and dreams increases for most of those actions or I would do the math right now.
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rahv7
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1/22/2017
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Looks like I lost a lot of money by not refusing until my Stormy-Eyed was down to 1. Ah, well.
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rahv7
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1/22/2017
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maleclypse wrote:
I've made the choice to Advise the Girl to return to the Widow. With 7 Favors I received 700 jade, Nightmares dropped from 4+ to to exactly 2, 1 Someone is coming, and 6 Identity Uncovered.
I just did that with 5 Favours and added the info based on both results to the wiki. As usual, it's apparently most profitable to do this with 5 Favours (between 1.5 and 2.7 EPA, depending on your investments to get the Favours)
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dov
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1/22/2017
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rahv7 wrote:
I just did that with 5 Favours and added the info based on both results to the wiki. As usual, it's apparently most profitable to do this with 5 Favours (between 1.5 and 2.7 EPA, depending on your investments to get the Favours)
My math might be completely off here, but doesn't this mean that it's more profitable to cash in with 7 Favours, and not 5? (after all, the rewards scale with the number of Favours, so you save actions by using more Favours at once).
Assuming gaining a Favour takes one action (and ignoring other costs for now, such as weasels), then:
- 5 Favours: 13.5 echoes / 6 actions = 2.25 EPA
- 7 Favours: 22 echoes / 8 actions = 2.75 EPA
There are other conflict cards (e.g. Crime or Punishment) in which the rewards are fixed and don't scale with the number of Favours, and then it's indeed better to use with the minimum number of Favours allowed, since other Favours are wasted.
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Wiwo
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1/22/2017
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I'm working on accumulating the favours for the same info on Sabotaging the cannon on the docks/urchins card. If somebody else already has, then let me know and I'll update the wiki and put those favours towards renown instead.
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Optimatum
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1/22/2017
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dov wrote:
rahv7 wrote:
I just did that with 5 Favours and added the info based on both results to the wiki. As usual, it's apparently most profitable to do this with 5 Favours (between 1.5 and 2.7 EPA, depending on your investments to get the Favours)
My math might be completely off here, but doesn't this mean that it's more profitable to cash in with 7 Favours, and not 5? (after all, the rewards scale with the number of Favours, so you save actions by using more Favours at once).
It means that this card doesn't seem like a great way of turning in Urchins Favours, and we need the numbers for the other conflict cards.
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PSGarak
Posts: 834
1/22/2017
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An update to the Ocular Toadbeast card, in spoilers because it's fate-locked:
[spoiler]A failure on "The Tongues" no longer affects Urchin stats at all, but increases Suspicion instead.[/spoiler]
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rahv7
Posts: 294
1/22/2017
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dov wrote:
My math might be completely off here, but doesn't this mean that it's more profitable to cash in with 7 Favours, and not 5? (after all, the rewards scale with the number of Favours, so you save actions by using more Favours at once).
Oh dear ... you are right. I think I forgot to factor in the Identity Uncovered or something. I doesn't actually matter if you paid for the Favours or not, the 6th and 7th Favour are more valuable than the first five. The overall EPA-ratio is still higher if you didn't pay anything, obviously.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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