 Parelle Posts: 1084
1/18/2017
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As with our previous friends, Urchins has been converted over to Renown. Please post cards and actions which use or give Favours and Renown Unlocks.
Most options below are cards; the storylets are listed as - with a [bracketed italicized location] first Cards which must been drawn in particular locations have their [requirements shown in brackets]
Renown Conversion: R = (C - 21) / 7 Renown increase past Level 15: Increases Daring, decreases Melancholy
= Favour Sources = [Mrs. Plenty’s Carnival: Sideshow] - 1 Favour, 3 CP Renown up to Level 5 [Fate Locked] Finishing School Cards: Urchins: 1 Favour, cost Lucky Weasel Turning in a hard-working Mark of Credit Page: 1 Favour (also gains 1 Favour Docks) Grubby Kitten (connected pet): 1 Favour Implausible Penance: Arson and Avarice - Tip the Squatters Off: 1 Favour, requires min Criminal Favour 3 to use, Criminals Favour 1 to draw Invite a Correspondent acquaintance to educate the orphans: ? Your Winsome Orphan is out of contro(purchased Companion): 1 Favour, costs 1 or 2 Memory of Distance Shores, requires bottle of Laudanum The Urchin and the Monkey (purchased Companions): 1 Favour, costs two Compromising Documents, requires 1 x Malevolent Monkey, 1 x Grubby Urchin Your Grubby Urchin is becoming troublesome (purchased Companion) [card drawn in Your Lodgings]: 1 Favour, cost 2 Tales of Terror
A scuffle on the street: Assist the Urchin (No connected pet) [card drawn in Veilgarden]: 1 Favour
One Time/Lower Stat Levels (thanks to rahv7 and Reddit for these additions) A task from the Cheesemonger: requires An agent of the Cheesemonger 1-3 The kidsman recruits [card drawn in The Flit]: requires Shadowy 69–106 They're coming for you! - Run! Hide! To the Flit! [one time]: requires Plotting against the Masters 2
= Renown Unlocks: = [The Flit] Fun with the Fisher Kings - Join in their ‘games’: Renown 5 [The Flit] Gather urchin informants: Renown 20, War of Assassins 1-3
= Favour Use = Call in Favours in the Flit [card drawn in The Flit] : 3 Favours - 25 scraps + Bundle of Oddities Pursue a Scheme: offer some Urchins a place in your Orphanage: 5 favors
Urchins: Out you go, longshanks: 5 Favours, 20 Glim
Upconverting Wild Word items T3 to T4 (plaque to scream): 1 Favour T4 to T5 (scream to threnody): 1 Favour
= Renown Items = Renown 10: Urchins Card Renown 25: Wolfstack Docks Renown 40: Mind of a Long-Dead God = Conflict Cards = Docks/Urchins: 5 Favours each - 800m(5) to 1200 (7) Rats, 1200 Rat on a string, 1 cp SiC, 10-20 Morelways, and -5(?)CP wounds. Widow/Urchins: 30 Widow/Urchins 5 Favours - 350 (5) to 700(7) jade, 1 cp Someone is coming, 4-6 Identity Uncovered, Nightmare drop Hell/Urchins: 30 Hell/Urchins 5 Favours
= Details required = Invite a Correspondent acquaintance to educate the orphans: who gets the Favour, the Correspondant or the Orphanage owner? Increase in Rare item payout from Favours to upconvert? Payout for selling Location of the Nadir to the Urchins? Devil & Child details
Thanks to all on this thread and elsewhere who contributed, but particularly to the Reddit Communty and rahv7 for his thread there: https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/5ovrcb/sources_for_urchins_favours/ edited by Parelle on 1/31/2017
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 PSGarak Posts: 834
1/18/2017
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Favor Grant: Opportunity Card from your Winsome Dispossessed Orphan. Guaranteed, costs Memory of Distance Shores (either 1 or 2, forget which).
Also, spelling is "Renown" not "Reknown."
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 Wiwo Posts: 365
1/18/2017
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Sources to be confirmed: Grubby Kitten, Urchins faction card, Arson and Avarice (Implausible Penance), Hard-Working Mark of Credit.
There should also be a Hell/Urchins conflict card.
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 Saklad Posts: 528
1/18/2017
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There is a Fate-locked source I've just confirmed. As I'm not sure whether I should put it in this thread, I will only say it is a recent piece of content. VERY recent.
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 Kaigen Posts: 530
1/18/2017
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I've confirmed Arson and Avarice awards an Urchin Favour.
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
1/18/2017
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Saklad wrote:
There is a Fate-locked source I've just confirmed. As I'm not sure whether I should put it in this thread, I will only say it is a recent piece of content. VERY recent.
If you mean the Finishing School, that's already been brought up in the main thread. edited by Optimatum on 1/18/2017
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 idyl Posts: 168
1/18/2017
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Not that this helps, but just saying:
Parelle wrote:
Reknown 40: Mind of an Angry God
Renown 40: The Mind of a Long-Dead God edited by idyl on 1/18/2017
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 Ludovico Santiago Posts: 14
1/18/2017
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The Urchin and the Monkey conflict card gives a favor for a cost of two Compromising Documents.
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 Chronos Posts: 135
1/18/2017
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Conflict card devil/urchins:
The devil and the child, still discardable, unlocked with 30 C hell and favours urchins 5, the option "take the devil side" tells you "This will lose you all of your Urchin Favours but give you a gain in Connected: Hell", "Propose an alliance" option still present. I won't try any option so I don't know what each option actually does.
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Conflict card Widow Urchins:
A familiar face by the school railings, still discardable, unlocked with C Widow 30 favours Urchins 5, the option favoring the widow says you'll lose all your favours criminals (I think I'll send a ticket for this), no more "Set her to spy on the Gracious Widow" option. I won't try any options. edited by Chronos on 1/18/2017
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 MidnightVoyager Posts: 858
1/18/2017
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Question: Is any of the renown items a companion? Trying to figure out if it's worth even bothering.
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 Chronos Posts: 135
1/18/2017
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MidnightVoyager wrote:
Question: Is any of the renown items a companion? Trying to figure out if it's worth even bothering.
The renown companions are the 1st tier docks, 2nd tier rubbery, 3 tier colonist and criminals. Unfortunately none of the Urchins ones are companions.
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 MidnightVoyager Posts: 858
1/18/2017
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Chronos wrote:
MidnightVoyager wrote:
Question: Is any of the renown items a companion? Trying to figure out if it's worth even bothering.
The renown companions are the 1st tier docks, 2nd tier rubbery, 3 tier colonist and criminals. Unfortunately none of the Urchins ones are companions.
I meant urchins in particular, but A+ answer. Thanks!
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 anarchetype Posts: 30
1/18/2017
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I'd just like to ask how people know urchin 40 is in the mind of a long dead god. Has anyone been in there? Also if it really is in there that may be a bad place for it as people spend months getting anywhere near there. Also anyone know what the conversion formula was?
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 dov Posts: 2580
1/18/2017
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anarchetype wrote:
I'd just like to ask how people know urchin 40 is in the mind of a long dead god. Has anyone been in there? Also if it really is in there that may be a bad place for it as people spend months getting anywhere near there. Also anyone know what the conversion formula was?
Rahv7 was there: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic23553-new-renown-items-available.aspx?messageid=181190&Page=8#post#post181114
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
1/18/2017
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The formula this time seems to be R = (C - 21) / 7
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 Alysian Posts: 57
1/18/2017
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"Pursue a Scheme: offer some Urchins a place in your Orphanage" requires 5 favors.
Would have thought you're the one doing Them a favor, but sure  edited by Alysian on 1/18/2017
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
1/18/2017
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Awww....kind of bummed none of the items is a companion. I was hoping the factions would have one Renown companion each. On the other hand though, now that I know some of them don't, I can hope Hell is one of those factions. It would be nice not to have to worry about grinding Renown: Hell. I do so enjoy seeing the Brass Embassy STILL in disrepair every time their card comes up :P
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
1/18/2017
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Thanks everyone - and pardon my obviously dumb errors while typing in a hurry. I'll make the changes as soon as I get to a proper keyboard.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Ben Posts: 657
1/18/2017
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Only the 25 and 40 found? First one would be on the card, right?
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
1/18/2017
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Ben wrote:
Only the 25 and 40 found? First one would be on the card, right?
Yep, its a hat.
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